CstatTexan
Waterboy
In what sense? Not much hyperbole in those comments and they back their opinion up with sound reasoning.
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Hopkins traded to Cardinals?
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In what sense? Not much hyperbole in those comments and they back their opinion up with sound reasoning.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I don't believe that Rick Smith had anything to do with OB making this deal. It was strictly what we see is what we get
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I do not know Cal's extension.
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leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
That's all you got?
banned1976
sleeper mode
It really gets under my skin that before today the Texans had one group that was at or near elite status and that group was the WR’s. When Fuller was healthy I felt the Texans could hang in there and at least be competitive. Now, forget it. In one move O’Brien has effectively and severely weakened not only the best group on the team but also limited the QB.
Honestly, if you asked me yesterday what one thing could O’Brien do that was so incredibly stupid I wouldn’t see it coming, the answer would be trading Nuk. But O’Brien took the extra step of not even getting much in return.
Honestly, if you asked me yesterday what one thing could O’Brien do that was so incredibly stupid I wouldn’t see it coming, the answer would be trading Nuk. But O’Brien took the extra step of not even getting much in return.
No worries ROO. I will for all of you guys, many whom I’ve known for over 15 years. I tried hard for many years to be a fan of this team but they’ve literally done nothing in all of these years to earn my fandom. The only thing they did was geographically replace the Oilers however they failed to replace them in my heart. Despite all of the heartache the Oilers had personality and their moments. The Texans are just a corporate bore to me and now with an arrogant baffoon making them a laughingstock.
I feel for all of you that still call Houston home and have this going on in your backyard. I haven’t lived there in almost 40 years now so I don’t need to own this. I said the same thing after the Chiefs meltdown and knew when I didn’t even care.
Following one dysfunctional franchise (Bucs) is enough but I grew up a fan of them like I did the Oilers and live here now. I didn’t own a Texans jersey when I was 10 so just don’t have that attachment so BOB can shove it.
texanhead08
All Pro
This trade shows why coaches shouldn't have total control. BOB makes emotional decisions without thinking of the long term harm it does to the team.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Bengals will not make that deal.
For what its worth, here is the e-mail I sent. I'm sure some intern will file it into a giant spam folder with all the others.
Is there anything we can do as fans to force the Texans organization to terminate Bill O’Brien’s employment with the team? There can be no debate that he is incompetent and a liability to the organization.
I have been a season ticket holder since the day the NFL announced Houston would be awarded the new team. I feel cheated by Bill O’Brien’s incompetence and feel disrespected by ownership who seem not to care.
I believe the majority of the fan base has no faith in Bill’s ability to lead this team. His time with the Texans should be over.
Is there anything we can do as fans to force the Texans organization to terminate Bill O’Brien’s employment with the team? There can be no debate that he is incompetent and a liability to the organization.
I have been a season ticket holder since the day the NFL announced Houston would be awarded the new team. I feel cheated by Bill O’Brien’s incompetence and feel disrespected by ownership who seem not to care.
I believe the majority of the fan base has no faith in Bill’s ability to lead this team. His time with the Texans should be over.
Here is Lombardi posting what he said before the season about an unnamed WR on the trading block.
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
I think they shopped him and took the best offer they could get.
The Cards were the only team willing to give Nuk the extension he wnted and that's what kept his trade value down.
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And they have a qb on a rookie deal
Dang tried to edit that. Effed it up. Was a reply to steel. Yeah zona can pay hop because they unloaded johnson and murray on a rookie deal. They should extend Hopkins one year past murray rookie deal.
Also they have weapons that look good come fantasy time
The Cards were the only team willing to give Nuk the extension he wnted and that's what kept his trade value down.
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And they have a qb on a rookie deal
Dang tried to edit that. Effed it up. Was a reply to steel. Yeah zona can pay hop because they unloaded johnson and murray on a rookie deal. They should extend Hopkins one year past murray rookie deal.
Also they have weapons that look good come fantasy time
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Based on what? The return OB got?
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Makes plenty of sense...ya’ll are hung up on the trade...I’m about what comes out of the trade...
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Its humiliating being a Texans fan.
I can't believe we're stuck for another season with O'Brien. I can't believe McNair allowed this to happen. I cant believe no one stood up in the meeting room and said this is f'ing stupid.
I want someone like Watt or Watson to complain about it. I want the whole damn team to complain about it. We got fleeced today in epic fashion.
When I saw this trade today I thought to myself someone should make a gif of ob's face on ving rhames getting pounded in pulp fiction. Yes, that scene. Truth is though, ob wasnt forced to bend over, he did it on his own. The fans are really the ones being f'ed and your paying for it.
This franchise wont get another penny from me. Sometimes the pet you love is to sick to carry on and needs to be put down. It's the humane thing to do.
Good night Toro.
I can't believe we're stuck for another season with O'Brien. I can't believe McNair allowed this to happen. I cant believe no one stood up in the meeting room and said this is f'ing stupid.
I want someone like Watt or Watson to complain about it. I want the whole damn team to complain about it. We got fleeced today in epic fashion.
When I saw this trade today I thought to myself someone should make a gif of ob's face on ving rhames getting pounded in pulp fiction. Yes, that scene. Truth is though, ob wasnt forced to bend over, he did it on his own. The fans are really the ones being f'ed and your paying for it.
This franchise wont get another penny from me. Sometimes the pet you love is to sick to carry on and needs to be put down. It's the humane thing to do.
Good night Toro.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Normally, we would assume a coach had done due diligence before a major trade. But we can't assume that with O'Brien because, as Seth Payne said, he allows his emotions to guide him.
We are witnessing the reason you don't allow a coach to be GM. There's no hand of restraint.
The good news is that O'Brien has put all his poker chips in the pile and doesn't even know it. By being so inflexible, he has set his minimum bar of achievement at an AFC championship berth. Anything less than that will make the rioting Philadelphia fans look like Gregorian monks.
DVauthrin
Practice Squad
I would love nothing more, but, unfortunately, there will still be enough people interested in tailgating and the social experience of going to an NFL game to keep Cal McNair’s pocketbook happy.
Locker room mutiny is a far better way to get O’Brien fired, and he took a major step in that direction today.
badboy
Hall of Fame
That does not make any sense to me. What team would not at least pursue until the Texans said No way Jose!
edo783
Hall of Fame
Any player that disagree s with the dipstick running the show gets shown the door. I expect that NUK, Just like JD did, wanted out, so he started pumping for a new contract. BOB can't stand anyone who doesn't kiss his butt and Kowtow to him. Total waste of space and ticks me off he is using some of my air. Stop breathing ya piece of crap.
Wolf
100% Texan
And the diggs trade goes through
..uggh
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
They’ve been saying all this morning since the trade that they e been shopping him since last summer at the trade deadline. Ian Rapport stated in NFL network that Tom Pelissero has known that this trade was in the works for 2 weeks before today.
He was definitely shopped well before this trade went down.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
O'Brien gets clowned in both his roles.
This is historic. While not the fleecing the Herschel Walker trade was, it'll be remembered.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Yep just like the knee jerks to the drafting of Howard...
CstatTexan
Waterboy
This discredits the idea of Hop not garnering much trade interest. Bill is just a bad negotiator
badboy
Hall of Fame
I think you partially hit on something here. I think O'Brien values veterans over draft picks. We see this when he plays veterans over rookies coming in. I do not disregard the personal issues he's had with Hopkins or the latter's desire for more money. Having said that he could value David Johnson over draft picks. Teams willing to trade a first-round and have the cap space to extend Hopkins may have really been few if any. Raiders and dolphins could have done that but may not have chosen to do so as can get wide receivers with # 18 and 19 pics.
DVauthrin
Practice Squad
He either doesn’t have the patience to negotiate or values veterans that can help him win now over high draft picks, which are gold in the NFL’s hard cap model. Both are bad qualities for any NFL GM.
chicagotexan2
Easterby = Little Finger/Cal = Fredo Corleone
Fat Travolta and Cal
McNumbnuts. A love story.
McNumbnuts. A love story.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Rick Smith was gawd damn genius compared to this dumb ass.
Class from beginning to end. Good luck Nuke!
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Exactly, good luck Hop, enjoyed watching you in H-Town.
Too bad we have a HC/GM that can’t get along with anyone and has to trade away talent because he has serious anger issues.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
You should join our club Lou. Free to all. We'll be handing out pink soap bars till OB is gone.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Yes, this is the core problem. He does not understand player value or trade markets. BOB only understands he likes or does not like this player.
Decim8
Veteran
Surely the bills offered obrien something better than what cardinals gave. Imo stefon not better than hopkins, so the only explanation I can think of is OB not wanting Hopkins in the same conference maybe??? Or he just plain retarded....
badboy
Hall of Fame
Then why has nobody but those two heard anything about it? even as a yuk yuk it should have got some air time here in Houston.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Seeing as how Diggs has never been named to the Pro Bowl, never mind All-Pro, which Nuk has 4 and 3 times respectively, you are spot on with that opinion.
@steelbtexan guess the bills werent Aware Hopkins was availabl.
Or maybe they liked Diggs skillset as a better fit with Allen and Diggs has already signed a long term contract so he's not like Nuk wanting an extension.
But I will give you this, the Diggs trade makes the Nuk trade look even worse. Hopefully Cletus asks some tough questions.
klockWork
Rookie
If this was Belichick that made this trade, I would've paused and said to myself, ok he's kinda of a genius that won all those SBs. So we will trust the captain once more for taking the longer route to get us home first.
Hey captain O'Brien! Tell us again why we should continue paddling for you?
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Hey captain O'Brien! Tell us again why we should continue paddling for you?
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Decim8
Veteran
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Houston could have gotten a 1st and maybe a 2nd, probably a 3rd for Hopkins this year, plus more picks in 2021. We should have come much closer to recovering what we lost in the Tunsil trade.
And it's troubling that a coach would value veterans that other coaches developed rather than a rookie he himself can develop.
Sonny
TexSon Proud
If this has already been said then I apologize but it's pretty simple here folks. Hop wanted out and probably threatened to sit as he's already loaded and hey, win win if he sits and saves himself a few concussions so, there was no recourse other than to get whatever the team could for him. The rest is academic.
Point is.. if you're looking for someone to blame on the worst trade ever et al including the Clowney trade, and they're both up there, the people you should be blaming are the players. They forced the situation.
Point is.. if you're looking for someone to blame on the worst trade ever et al including the Clowney trade, and they're both up there, the people you should be blaming are the players. They forced the situation.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
So we should blame the players over OB's poor negotiating skills?
That has got to be one of the worst takes I've heard.
The players may not be innocent in the reason why they are being dealt, but they aren't playing a role in how their GM chooses to acquire compensation for them. That part is strictly on the GM to balance the team's assets and get good on his return for what he is parting ways with.