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Nico Collins is a legit WR 1

steelbtexan

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Starting someone shouldn’t be based on a feeling or what they think, but what they accomplish on the field during practices and Pre Season.
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Play the best players

If Stroud isn't the best player he shouldn't start. If he doesn't start then Caserio should be fired. I'm just glad I'm not investing in the clown show anymore.
 

thunderkyss

Just win baby!!!
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Resist.

I know it’s hard. You see stupidsht & you want to respond. You’re a man, it’s natural.

But try to be the bigger man. Try to elevate the conversation. Don’t be part of dragging all of us down to juvenile trope.

fight the urge, resist
 

OptimisticTexan

2023 / Rebuilding Block 3 / Go Texans
Simple

Play the best players

If Stroud isn't the best player he shouldn't start. If he doesn't start then Caserio should be fired. I'm just glad I'm not investing in the clown show anymore.
Man…that’s not on Caserio. That would be like saying the Chiefs, Patriots, Packers, etc should’ve fired their GM’s b/c Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, etc weren’t the Day 1 starters the year they were drafted. Their approach has worked much better than any approach the Texans have taken…..which means I’d have no issue if this was Ryan’s approach.
 

leebigeztx

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Man…that’s not on Caserio. That would be like saying the Chiefs, Patriots, Packers, etc should’ve fired their GM’s b/c Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, etc weren’t the Day 1 starters the year they were drafted. Their approach has worked much better than any approach the Texans have taken…..which means I’d have no issue if this was Ryan’s approach.
I agree that Stroud should start. You can't compare those other situations because they had pro bowl caliber qbs in front of them. Also, neither were drafted #2. he days of a qb drafted top 5 not starting is over. Not to mention, its not like Case or Mills are long term answers.
 
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OptimisticTexan

2023 / Rebuilding Block 3 / Go Texans
I agree that Stroud should start. You can't compare those other situations because they had pro bowl caliber qbs in front of them. Also, neither were drafted #2. he days of a qb drafted top 5 not starting is over. Not to mention, its not like Case or Mills are long term answers.
I’m good with Stroud starting as well….provided Ryans and Caserio are on board.

The moment Stroud was selected, Keenum and Mills became Bridge QB’s and/or Insurance Policy QB’s.
 
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steelbtexan

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Man…that’s not on Caserio. That would be like saying the Chiefs, Patriots, Packers, etc should’ve fired their GM’s b/c Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, etc weren’t the Day 1 starters the year they were drafted. Their approach has worked much better than any approach the Texans have taken…..which means I’d have no issue if this was Ryan’s approach.
What approach is this?

Bottom line is, a QB drafted at 1-2 should be able to beat out the 32nd ranked QB.
 
None of it relates to that past anymore thankfully, but understand scaring it’s not easily forgotten. Regardless, Slowick will spread touches around, multiplicity. Be nice to create Metchie/Dell rub routes and keep defense from plugging running lanes. Nico sure looks like he will fill big play, X WR role.
We are expecting a better run offense out of Slowick. We felt the same about Pep Hamilton. Let's hope our optimism in regards to Slowick is not misguided.
 

SnakeEyes

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Its definitely a make or break year for Nico
Report out of OTAs are Nico is catching some laser throws from CJ. Hope it carries over to games. Nico 100% has the abilities. Also saw Xavier Hutchinson is really making some outstanding catches as well. If BOTH stay healthy we will have 2 young WRs who have both ability to catch, cut, read Ds, run and be shifty engaged to make them open often. You can't really cover both when you add in TEs and Robert Woods. The jury is out on Mechie as he tweaked a hamstring the other day. Heard he looks good...but on the rehab train for a few days (hope not longer or it's going to be a reoccurring issue).
 

DBCooper

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Report out of OTAs are Nico is catching some laser throws from CJ. Hope it carries over to games. Nico 100% has the abilities. Also saw Xavier Hutchinson is really making some outstanding catches as well. If BOTH stay healthy we will have 2 young WRs who have both ability to catch, cut, read Ds, run and be shifty engaged to make them open often. You can't really cover both when you add in TEs and Robert Woods. The jury is out on Mechie as he tweaked a hamstring the other day. Heard he looks good...but on the rehab train for a few days (hope not longer or it's going to be a reoccurring issue).
Clutchinson!
 

Lucky

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Report out of OTAs are Nico is catching some laser throws from CJ. Hope it carries over to games. Nico 100% has the abilities. Also saw Xavier Hutchinson is really making some outstanding catches as well. If BOTH stay healthy we will have 2 young WRs who have both ability to catch, cut, read Ds, run and be shifty engaged to make them open often. You can't really cover both when you add in TEs and Robert Woods. The jury is out on Mechie as he tweaked a hamstring the other day. Heard he looks good...but on the rehab train for a few days (hope not longer or it's going to be a reoccurring issue).
You don't even mention Tank. It's Tank's world. We're just living in it.
 

leebigeztx

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Besides qb, the hardest position to learn is wr. You have to read coverage, read release of cb, and run your route at proper depth. All of that within 3 steps. I didn't mention catch the ball with bodies in front of you. I view wr and pass catchers as a collective. Can you beat 1 on 1 coverage. All you need are guys who can do that. The run game can dictate coverage. It doesn't have to be a Randy Moss or Jerry Rice to dictate coverage.
 

banned1976

sleeper mode
You don't even mention Tank. It's Tank's world. We're just living in it.
The last time I remember seeing this kind of buzz over a rookie WR that just got here was with Keke Coutee in 2018. That guy ended getting waived in 2021 and is currently a free agent.

Texans fans seem to be a glutton for punishment when it comes to their expectations for mid to late round receivers. I'll be the first to say it, I'm excited to see what Tank can do but at the same time I don't think he's going to last long in the NFL.

Poor Nico's been replaced in the hearts and minds of most Texans fans.

I'm ready for the Texans to commit to the receiver room. Unfortunately, the 2023 draft was pretty weak in that regard.
 

Texansballer74

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The last time I remember seeing this kind of buzz over a rookie WR that just got here was with Keke Coutee in 2018. That guy ended getting waived in 2021 and is currently a free agent.

Texans fans seem to be a glutton for punishment when it comes to their expectations for mid to late round receivers. I'll be the first to say it, I'm excited to see what Tank can do but at the same time I don't think he's going to last long in the NFL.

Poor Nico's been replaced in the hearts and minds of most Texans fans.

I'm ready for the Texans to commit to the receiver room. Unfortunately, the 2023 draft was pretty weak in that regard.
The difference so far is Tank has a better work ethic and drive. Keke work ethic wasn’t good and his mind was somewhere else.
 

steelbtexan

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He didn't miss a game in college. Makes me wonder if his injury history the last two years was more about the Texans training/medical staff than about him being injury prone.
This is fair, of course he sat out the Covid yr, so there is that.

Love your optimism.
 


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