Yep, if X was all that then adding Diggs wouldn't have been a priority.
X is a good blocker though. Best case scenario for X is he turns out to be another Jennings. But I just dont see it, I do think X makes the team this yr though.
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Nico Collins is a legit WR 1
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X is a good blocker though. Best case scenario for X is he turns out to be another Jennings. But I just dont see it, I do think X makes the team this yr though.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I’m reserving judgement on Green. His rookie year was a mess. He didn’t pass protect well at all. Run blocking was inconsistent, albeit good at times…and he was injury prone. Last year of course he missed the entire year due to injury. Supposedly, he looks the part this year so I’m hopeful but I don’t think anyone knows what he will be this year. Health is a major concern as well. Assuming he even stays healthy, he could start and dominate, or be so bad they give him his walking papers…or anywhere in between. I’m not sold….yet. Hope he kicks ass though.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I have him very borderline. Some of this may come down to injury, but just for the sake of argument, let’s assume full health for the WR group. You have Collins, Dell, and Diggs as 100% making the team. I personally would put Noah around 90% or better of making the team.
That leaves Hutch, Ben S., Robert Woods, John Metchie, and Steven Sims as realistic roster candidates. That’s five guys for what is likely two spots…three if they really stretch it.
I have to believe Metchie is likely the fifth guy. They traded for Ben S for a reason right? Let’s plug him in at #6. That may be it for the group. But if they keep a 7th guy, you are now down to Sims, Woods, or X. And frankly, I’m not sure I’d keep any of those 3. Is any so valuable your going to rob a spot from another position group?
Woods is a cut candidate pre/during camp, but we don’t know that yet, so for this exercise he’s in the mix to the end.
He got hurt in week 4 of his rookie yr and played hurt throughout the rest of the season. Plus as a rookie he hadn't had a NFL S&C program. Last yr he was hurt to begin the offseason and they correctly shut him down.
It looks like during his yr off he took his profession seriously and got in the best shape of his life. The talent is there though, he's the guy that held WA To no sacks and performed like a 1st rd pick against WA. Good times are ahead. BTW, some were saying these same things about Stingley last offseason and rightfully so. I'm looking for a Stingley type turnaround from Green this yr. A top 10 OG.
If Fisher can come through and the OL stays healthy this offense will be a top 5ish type offense. I dont think Howard is going to be as good as many here think he's going to be, his injury is a brutal injury to make it back from.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Well "if healthy " is the point correct? X is in his "Nico" season at $1 m. Pre-season will be his trial by fire. Only 18-19 targets but 11 APC keeps my interest.. for now.
As I have stated prior, Noah Brown if healthy would be a thousand yard rusher on many teams. I am just not sure his shoulder injury plus his inguinal tears let him stay on the field. Caserio had to guarantee $3 million which told me other teams were interested.
Both are bubble guys.
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badboy
Hall of Fame
Justin Jefferson’s new contract proves Texans got a steal with Nico Collins’ extension
The Houston Texans were wise to lock up Nico Collins last week, just days before Justin Jefferson received his lucrative four-year contract.
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The Houston Texans were wise to lock up Nico Collins last week just days before Justin Jefferson received his lucrative four-year contract.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Justin Jefferson’s new contract proves Texans got a steal with Nico Collins’ extension
The Houston Texans were wise to lock up Nico Collins last week, just days before Justin Jefferson received his lucrative four-year contract.
The Houston Texans were wise to lock up Nico Collins last week just days before Justin Jefferson received his lucrative four-year contract.
Jaylen Waddle signed after Nico too. I wonder if his contract would have played a factor in Nico’s negotiations. 3 year contract.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I am a huge fan of Waddell from Alabama and watched him play. I actually thought he would sign before Nico Collins. A three season thousand yarder, he had that over our guy but a year older.
Nothing to really support my opinion, but I think Miami padded the contract slightly hoping to encourage Tua Tag to accept less in his extension. Whatever the Dolphins quarterback gets will be significantly more than what I would pay him with his injury history.
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
Tua about to get more than what Goff did I can almost guarantee it.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Sweech
Onside Kick Specialist
That's several years away and hopefully he will be because that means good things for us.CJ's gonna be expensive. Real expensive.
Hopefully well worth the expense.CJ's gonna be expensive. Real expensive.
TheRealJoker V2
Rookie
I just want to take a moment to appreciate what the team has in Nico Collins. He is an absolute physical specimen just like our HOF WR Andre Johnson was…
So many top WRs in the NFL nowadays are more the 6’ or 6’1” smooth route runner types. Davante Adams, Justin Jefferson, Stefon Diggs.
There are not too many of the 6’3” or 6’4” beasts playing WR at a high level these days. I guess there never really were and we were spoiled by AJ all those years.
But when I look at the biggest physical specimens that are also good at playing WR, I see Nico and DK Metcalf. DK is an absolute unit and obviously runs faster in a straight line. But Nico is the more polished WR, better hands, superior technician.
A physical specimen and a technician. It’s almost like history is repeating itself
So many top WRs in the NFL nowadays are more the 6’ or 6’1” smooth route runner types. Davante Adams, Justin Jefferson, Stefon Diggs.
There are not too many of the 6’3” or 6’4” beasts playing WR at a high level these days. I guess there never really were and we were spoiled by AJ all those years.
But when I look at the biggest physical specimens that are also good at playing WR, I see Nico and DK Metcalf. DK is an absolute unit and obviously runs faster in a straight line. But Nico is the more polished WR, better hands, superior technician.
A physical specimen and a technician. It’s almost like history is repeating itself
TheRealJoker V2
Rookie
Texansballer74
The Marine
cland
Recovering from BO'B PTSD
It was a great deal and timing when the Texans resigned him. It made him the 7th highest paid receiver at the time of the deal... but then the new contracts started raining down. He's now the 12th highest.
That catch Collins made on the last drive was a very tough catch.
Unlike you, I'm just glad Caserio traded up in the 3rd rd and picked Collins.
If Collins is healthy he's a WR1. Although Stroud spreads the ball around so Collins wont have the volume of a young Hopkins. However he will be just as successful as Hopkins.
badboy
Hall of Fame
This season, I am taking a more focused approach on Xavier Hutchinson. I think there is a good possibility he could end up close to Nico Collins capabilities. In the attached link from the combine, it states he has a history of a late bloomer who improves from season to season and often from month to month. I think we are seeing that so far in 2024. If he continues the improvement I saw in preseason, I think he could be the new third prong of our wide receiver Trident if Diggs decides to leave.
Hutch has nowhere near the athletic gifts that Collins has.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
This guy amazes me. He had a great game when the offense needed it.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
He is clutch!
How many times has he done this now?
He has big time chemistry with CJ.
The league has not fully focused on him yet, but they will be forced to - I am more than happy if he continues to fly mostly under their radars.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
AJ 2.0
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
BattleRedBlud
Blue Steel Pose. No Excuses!
He is Collins 1.0
I like to celebrate our stars as the individuals they are.
I like to celebrate our stars as the individuals they are.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
He is… but he also sure does play like Andre.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
For any Texans WR who receives the gift of being compared to a HOF WR like Andre Johnson, could also be seen as paying them the ultimate compliment…..in this case it’s Nico Collins. I just hope the Texans keep him with the team for the duration of his prime playing time. Nico will also be very fortunate if CJ is the one throwing him the football during his prime.
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I am personally optimistic. OLinemen are notorious for taking time to develop. Remember how bad Brown was as a rookie and how good he ended up? Green is already ahead of schedule this season IMO.
I like how he added that elbow as flair when impersonating Andre's spins against the Cardinals.
Porky
Hall of Fame
This man is a beast. I like Amon up in Detroit too, but I’ll take Nico. I’m comparing because same draft both middle rounders..both steals by their respective teams. As good as St Brown is…Nico is a bit better overall imho. Of course, I’m biased.
If he plays with CJ the rest of his career, barring major health issues,..he’s on track to make the HOF.
If he plays with CJ the rest of his career, barring major health issues,..he’s on track to make the HOF.