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2024 Draft Talk

steelbtexan said:
Sanders is a big one cut tough runner with sprinter speed and good hands. Of course he cant run routes like McCaffrey can. McCaffrey is a unicorn when it comes to running routes. The best I've seen. I like Shipley a lot too, I wonder about his pass pro.

You're right, they've got a 3rd and two 4th's. These are my guys so far this yr that I want, so I would trade a future pick to get my guys.

Sanders and Allen are the 2 RB's that have something the Texans offense greatly misses, gamebreaking speed.
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PFN Scouting Profile

Ian Cummings provides a good breakdown of Shipley’s abilities. I think Shipley would be a great compliment to Pierce, but I don’t know if he has the game breaking speed you’re looking for.

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  • Willing pass protector who can use his lateral twitch to reposition and square up rushers.”
 
TexansFan15 said:
PFN Scouting Profile

Ian Cummings provides a good breakdown of Shipley’s abilities. I think Shipley would be a great compliment to Pierce, but I don’t know if he has the game breaking speed you’re looking for.

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  • Willing pass protector who can use his lateral twitch to reposition and square up rushers.”
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Can you find a breakdown on Sanders?
 
Lucky said:
The 2024 NFL draft will be held in Detroit, April 25-27.

That's all I got this far away from the draft. Get back to me in 4 months.
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I like watching college ball a lot more than the NFL.

So the draft stuff interests me more.
 
Lucky said:
The 2024 NFL draft will be held in Detroit, April 25-27.

That's all I got this far away from the draft. Get back to me in 4 months.
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That's reasonably close to me, I wonder if I could convince a few buddies to go.

Anyone ever been to a draft before? Enough fan events to make it worth going?
 
Sweech said:
That's reasonably close to me, I wonder if I could convince a few buddies to go.

Anyone ever been to a draft before? Enough fan events to make it worth going?
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I've never been, but it's on my bucket list. I think Detroit will be well attended. Several NFL cities within driving distance or a short flight. Can go to the casino in Windsor during the day and the golf courses in the area will be open.
 
Lucky said:
I've never been, but it's on my bucket list. I think Detroit will be well attended. Several NFL cities within driving distance or a short flight. Can go to the casino in Windsor during the day and the golf courses in the area will be open.
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Lucky said:
I've never been, but it's on my bucket list. I think Detroit will be well attended. Several NFL cities within driving distance or a short flight. Can go to the casino in Windsor during the day and the golf courses in the area will be open.
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Stay safe
 
Buckeye Homer said:
PFF big board after CFB week 6.

NFL Draft Big Board | PFF

PFF's Big Board for the 2024 NFL Draft offers three-year player grades, combine measurables, position rankings, and in-depth player analysis for all of the top draft prospects.
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If the draft fell like this I'm looking at picking Odunze/ UT Sanders/Trotter/Sweat/Shipley.

What I really get from this is this is a very deep draft.
 
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Buckeye Homer said:
Maybe this DT from Illinois.

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Early 2024 NFL Draft interior defensive lineman rankings: Illinois' Jer'Zhan Newton claims No. 1 | NFL Draft | PFF

Ranking the top 2024 NFL Draft interior defender prospects, including Illinois' Jer'Zhan Newton.
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I like Newton, I've got a friend who's a big Illinois fan and he says Newton is a stud. From what I've seen, he's a better Maliek Collins. That makes him a top 20-30 prospect. Which is a very good long term starter. You could do a lot worse than draft Newton. IMHO

Being a Buckeye fan I'm sure you've seen quite a bit of Newton, I would love to hear your thoughts on Newton as a prospect?
 
JWLCASPER said:
Let me stretch out the football fingers.
Damn I missed you all. Let’s talk about scheme and vision here for a moment.

@CloakNNNdagger is right here and it’s something that is frustrating to watch but a part of staff/roster turnover with new regimes. Pierce is an excellent Power Running back and would excel with Pittsburgh, Baltimore, New England, etc. Coming out of Florida - his vision was one of the things that worried scouting departments (not his natural ability). As a firm supporter of a ZBS/Shanahan/Kubiak/Slowik offense, vision is imperative to making the running scheme work, and why numerous “less talented” backs excel (because of exceptional timing / vision / understanding of what the offensive line is doing against certain fronts.) Watching Arian Foster / Terrell Davis / Clinton Portis run the ZBS Stretch is one of the most beautiful forms of football artistry. I repeat, this is not what Pierce is - he is a battering ram that is told to run in A gap, and he runs in A gap hard.

Singletary would be a better running back in this system, but I think the Texans brain trust (NC) is trying to justify the Pierce pick as well as keeping with status quo of shown talent from prior regimes. Looking ahead, I would love to see the the Texans select Trey Benson out of Florida State who is known for and has shown exceptional vision and one cut ability. I also like Raheim Sanders out of Arkansas as a physical specimen with superb balance and ability to pick running lanes out of a ZBS.

Pierce moving forward would be much better as an inside zone threat out of Shotgun (most of what he did at Florida) and as a pass blocker or as our 12 personnel back on double team blocking runs where he knows he is picking either of the A gaps or potentially a B gap at most. Asking him to choose his lane is asking for what we have seen - running into the back of offensive lineman.

I’m ecstatic that our offense is back in the Shanahan family tree - as I have studied it in depth for much of my adult life - and it’s one of the most beautiful forms of football ever created.

@steelbtexan When I disappeared for this last year I almost latched on with San Francisco in their contract department. They ended up going with an in house candidate but I was one of three finalists out of roughly 200 people. I was John Lynch’s favorite candidate and we hung out in his office for quite a while watching practice while he dipped and listened to Country Music. I never felt more at home haha. Getting that “no” and that they were going another direction was one of the toughest no’s I ever received - and I didn’t want to move to California anyway - but was going to do it for the opportunity of working with the best ran organization in football. Having Demeco and Slowik here has reinvigorated my Texans fandom, and damn it feels good.

Hope all the Texans family here is well and it’s time to catch back up with you all.

JWL
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Good to hear from you stranger.

Looking forward to taalking draft and cap with you. Looks to my untrained eye that Caserio set this team up for success over the next couple of yrs cap wise. They should have room to add a couple of difference makers in FA next offseason?

Love Sanders in the 3rd to the Texans. Big guy with homerun hitting speed. One cut runner with good hands. Not sure how good he is in pass pro but that can be taught.
 
steelbtexan said:
Good to hear from you stranger.

Looking forward to taalking draft and cap with you. Looks to my untrained eye that Caserio set this team up for success over the next couple of yrs cap wise. They should have room to add a couple of difference makers in FA next offseason?

Love Sanders in the 3rd to the Texans. Big guy with homerun hitting speed. One cut runner with good hands. Not sure how good he is in pass pro but that can be taught.
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Regarding Houston’s 2024 cap - based on Spotrac - we have 40 team members under contract for roughly 168-169 million. With the cap for 2024 set at 256 million, that leaves us roughly 87-88 million (minus what we have to set aside for our draft collateral) to make moves internally and externally. That ranks the Texans 4th behind Chicago, Tennessee, and New England, and based on our quarterback situation - makes us the most appealing destination of open cap heavy teams.

Talking internally - we may or may not bring back Rankins, Griffin, Schultz, Fant, Singletary, Perryman, Thomas among a few others that are on 1 year prove it deals.

I know you aren’t the biggest Clemson fan - and remember I’m a Gamecock - but I want Tee Higgins as Stroud has shown an affinity for big bodied receivers and I believe Higgins is a top 10 WR in the league. Christian Wilkins and Danielle Hunter would also be big pieces for our rapid rebuild. If the Panthers move on from Burns, that is another name I am definitely intrigued by. I am not as high on Sweat as some, but I could see that being a play if we miss on Hunter and Burns.

I could also see Demeco interested in Winfield though I am not fond of his build. I would prefer Jeremy Chinn for his position utility and ability to play the Star / Dimebacker role.

Going into the draft we need to work on the defense front 7 and weapons. I would like to see the Texans attack both through free agency to allow the BPA approach once the draft hits so we aren’t drafting for need. If we can get Higgins as well Hunter or Sweat, I would look at Jer’zhan Newton for the IDL as our Donald / Quinnen Williams. If we get Wilkins and Higgins then I would look at Laiatu or Chop Robinson. If we get two dline pieces in free agency I want to see Harrison Jr (if possible) Brock Bowers (our version of Kyle Pitts) or Malik Nabers.

In the second round I’m looking corner or safety or maybe HB ( CB Josh Newton TCU, CB Nate Wiggins Clemson, S Caleb Bullock USC (my favorite of this bunch as our single high while Pitre runs in the box) or potentially HB Trey Benson.

In the third round I like Raheim Sanders if we don’t go HB in second, Xavier Legette WR Gamecocks (if he makes it this far) Troy Franklin WR Oregon, Malachi Corley WKU (Deebo mold). Sanders and Corley are especially high on my wish list in third / fourth round.

I’ll leave it at this for now because this is just a quick list and not my end all be all (nor my deep dive list that will get tighter as the season moves along). This really is a first glance style nod to guys that I put a pin in to follow closer.

Good to talk shop again.
 
JWLCASPER said:
Regarding Houston’s 2024 cap - based on Spotrac - we have 40 team members under contract for roughly 168-169 million. With the cap for 2024 set at 256 million, that leaves us roughly 87-88 million (minus what we have to set aside for our draft collateral) to make moves internally and externally. That ranks the Texans 4th behind Chicago, Tennessee, and New England, and based on our quarterback situation - makes us the most appealing destination of open cap heavy teams.

Talking internally - we may or may not bring back Rankins, Griffin, Schultz, Fant, Singletary, Perryman, Thomas among a few others that are on 1 year prove it deals.

I know you aren’t the biggest Clemson fan - and remember I’m a Gamecock - but I want Tee Higgins as Stroud has shown an affinity for big bodied receivers and I believe Higgins is a top 10 WR in the league. Christian Wilkins and Danielle Hunter would also be big pieces for our rapid rebuild. If the Panthers move on from Burns, that is another name I am definitely intrigued by. I am not as high on Sweat as some, but I could see that being a play if we miss on Hunter and Burns.

I could also see Demeco interested in Winfield though I am not fond of his build. I would prefer Jeremy Chinn for his position utility and ability to play the Star / Dimebacker role.

Going into the draft we need to work on the defense front 7 and weapons. I would like to see the Texans attack both through free agency to allow the BPA approach once the draft hits so we aren’t drafting for need. If we can get Higgins as well Hunter or Sweat, I would look at Jer’zhan Newton for the IDL as our Donald / Quinnen Williams. If we get Wilkins and Higgins then I would look at Laiatu or Chop Robinson. If we get two dline pieces in free agency I want to see Harrison Jr (if possible) Brock Bowers (our version of Kyle Pitts) or Malik Nabers.

In the second round I’m looking corner or safety or maybe HB ( CB Josh Newton TCU, CB Nate Wiggins Clemson, S Caleb Bullock USC (my favorite of this bunch as our single high while Pitre runs in the box) or potentially HB Trey Benson.

In the third round I like Raheim Sanders if we don’t go HB in second, Xavier Legette WR Gamecocks (if he makes it this far) Troy Franklin WR Oregon, Malachi Corley WKU (Deebo mold). Sanders and Corley are especially high on my wish list in third / fourth round.

I’ll leave it at this for now because this is just a quick list and not my end all be all (nor my deep dive list that will get tighter as the season moves along). This really is a first glance style nod to guys that I put a pin in to follow closer.

Good to talk shop again.
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I'm hoping for Odunze if Bowers isn't there.

1. Odunze
2. Ja'Tavion Sanders
3. Raheim Sanders

Add Wilkins or Reader and one of Hunter, Banks . Do you think if say they signed Wilkins and Hunter, would they still have enough cap space to sign Jordyn Brooks?

Tell me more about Legette's game and how he stacks up with other WR's in this draft. I've only watched him against Georgia and he looked kinda avg. IMHO

Great talking shop again.
 
I agree that the Texans need to add some more weapons on offense, but I think there are significant needs on the defensive side of the ball as well- DT being one of the most significant, IMO. I'm probably not advocating going offense in both rounds 1 and 2 unless some ridiculous value drops (and it might; there are a lot of good receivers that are eligible, it just depends on who declares).

I will say that Worthy doesn't move the needle for me. He's got all that speed, so why is his yards per reception so low? He looks like Ted Ginn Jr. to me.

He's also very light- how is his frame going to handle the weight to add the functional strength he is going to need in the NFL? I have the same concern with Troy Franklin from Oregon (I see @steelbtexan and @badboy discussed him a bit in another thread)- I'm curious to see how he's going to get around this issue at the next level.

For my money, give me one of the big receivers (if the Texans can't get MHJ)- Coleman or Odunze being the guys I like early. Nabers looks pretty good too, but I like the tools of the other two better.

Corley from Western Kentucky is worth considering. I honestly think he should be looked at as not only a receiver, but as a 3rd down RB. You'd have to see about the blocking, but I think that's a role he could fill well.

As far as TEs go, Bowers is the only one I consider in the first, and I think he's overrated (so he'll likely go before the Texans pick). He's a good player, and he's one I'd strongly consider when the Texans are up (assuming they pick in the mid-late teens), but he's not Gronk like people are making him out to be. Sanders is interesting in the second. I like Spann-Ford from Minnesota a lot. Stover strikes me as a TE2; reliable, blocks well, but not a difference maker in the passing game. Bell is kind of a poor-man's Bowers to me. If you really like what Bowers brings but miss on him in Round 1, Bell is a good target in the mid rounds. A couple of under the radar guys are Sinnot (Kansas State) and Bartholomew (Pitt). All looks the part, but there are medical concerns. Those are the TEs I'm watching. Oh, and Nesbitt from UNC.
 
steelbtexan said:
I like Newton, I've got a friend who's a big Illinois fan and he says Newton is a stud. From what I've seen, he's a better Maliek Collins. That makes him a top 20-30 prospect. Which is a very good long term starter. You could do a lot worse than draft Newton. IMHO

Being a Buckeye fan I'm sure you've seen quite a bit of Newton, I would love to hear your thoughts on Newton as a prospect?
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Ohio State and Illinois have not played one another over the past three years and so I haven't watched him play but he's highly regarded. We probably need Cleveland to do worse than expected to get him.
 
rmartin65 said:
I agree that the Texans need to add some more weapons on offense, but I think there are significant needs on the defensive side of the ball as well- DT being one of the most significant, IMO. I'm probably not advocating going offense in both rounds 1 and 2 unless some ridiculous value drops (and it might; there are a lot of good receivers that are eligible, it just depends on who declares).

I will say that Worthy doesn't move the needle for me. He's got all that speed, so why is his yards per reception so low? He looks like Ted Ginn Jr. to me.

He's also very light- how is his frame going to handle the weight to add the functional strength he is going to need in the NFL? I have the same concern with Troy Franklin from Oregon (I see @steelbtexan and @badboy discussed him a bit in another thread)- I'm curious to see how he's going to get around this issue at the next level.

For my money, give me one of the big receivers (if the Texans can't get MHJ)- Coleman or Odunze being the guys I like early. Nabers looks pretty good too, but I like the tools of the other two better.

Corley from Western Kentucky is worth considering. I honestly think he should be looked at as not only a receiver, but as a 3rd down RB. You'd have to see about the blocking, but I think that's a role he could fill well.

As far as TEs go, Bowers is the only one I consider in the first, and I think he's overrated (so he'll likely go before the Texans pick). He's a good player, and he's one I'd strongly consider when the Texans are up (assuming they pick in the mid-late teens), but he's not Gronk like people are making him out to be. Sanders is interesting in the second. I like Spann-Ford from Minnesota a lot. Stover strikes me as a TE2; reliable, blocks well, but not a difference maker in the passing game. Bell is kind of a poor-man's Bowers to me. If you really like what Bowers brings but miss on him in Round 1, Bell is a good target in the mid rounds. A couple of under the radar guys are Sinnot (Kansas State) and Bartholomew (Pitt). All looks the part, but there are medical concerns. Those are the TEs I'm watching. Oh, and Nesbitt from UNC.
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I’d sign both TE- Dalton Schultz and TE- Hunter Henry (NE) at the start of the 2024 off-season. This way the Texans are covered in the event Bowers isn’t available to draft in their slots. If the Browns were to cut Aikens at the end of the season, I’d have no issues signing him as a 3rd TE. Texans TE group would be in good hands with Schultz, Henry, and Aikens.
 
badboy said:
I know I am going out on a limb here but I think Dylan Horton could be a lighter DT in Ryans scheme. I estimate him at~265 & feel he could add another 10-15. He is dumptruck strong and 4.55. We need more crashing by the line as we did against Derek Carrwreck.
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Seems to be in the Charles Omenihu mould.

Would be wild for him to go from playing safety to transitioning position by position to DT. S>LB>DE>DT
 
Okay, a fun debate opportunity. CBS Sports posted their most recent 2024 Mock Draft. Texans would be picking at 17 courtesy of the Browns. The Cardinals would be picking at 9 courtesy of the low foreheads at CBS Sports.

Anyhow, the picks fell in a way that put (3) players of interest between 17 and 22….who should/would the Texans select at 17:

WR- Emeka Egbuka (Ohio State) 6-1 @ 206 lbs / est 4.42-40

WR- Rome Odunze (Washington) 6-3 @ 215 lbs / est 4.34-40

DE- Masson Smith (LSU) 6-5 @ 300 lbs / est 4.78-40 (GPS 19.8 mph in the off-season)
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Okay, a fun debate opportunity. CBS Sports posted their most recent 2024 Mock Draft. Texans would be picking at 17 courtesy of the Browns. The Cardinals would be picking at 9 courtesy of the low foreheads at CBS Sports.

Anyhow, the picks fell in a way that put (3) players of interest between 17 and 22….who should/would the Texans select at 17:

WR- Emeka Egbuka (Ohio State) 6-1 @ 206 lbs / est 4.42-40

WR- Rome Odunze (Washington) 6-3 @ 215 lbs / est 4.34-40

DE- Masson Smith (LSU) 6-5 @ 300 lbs / est 4.78-40 (GPS 19.8 mph in the off-season)
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Masson Smith on one side and Will Anderson on the other sounds pretty good to me. If Stroud can make a hero out of Nico Collins we can take later round WRs.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Okay, a fun debate opportunity. CBS Sports posted their most recent 2024 Mock Draft. Texans would be picking at 17 courtesy of the Browns. The Cardinals would be picking at 9 courtesy of the low foreheads at CBS Sports.

Anyhow, the picks fell in a way that put (3) players of interest between 17 and 22….who should/would the Texans select at 17:

WR- Emeka Egbuka (Ohio State) 6-1 @ 206 lbs / est 4.42-40

WR- Rome Odunze (Washington) 6-3 @ 215 lbs / est 4.34-40

DE- Masson Smith (LSU) 6-5 @ 300 lbs / est 4.78-40 (GPS 19.8 mph in the off-season)
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Give me Odunze every time and twice on Sunday's. That guys a dawg.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Okay, a fun debate opportunity. CBS Sports posted their most recent 2024 Mock Draft. Texans would be picking at 17 courtesy of the Browns. The Cardinals would be picking at 9 courtesy of the low foreheads at CBS Sports.

Anyhow, the picks fell in a way that put (3) players of interest between 17 and 22….who should/would the Texans select at 17:

WR- Emeka Egbuka (Ohio State) 6-1 @ 206 lbs / est 4.42-40

WR- Rome Odunze (Washington) 6-3 @ 215 lbs / est 4.34-40

DE- Masson Smith (LSU) 6-5 @ 300 lbs / est 4.78-40 (GPS 19.8 mph in the off-season)
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Odunze with no question in my mind. I was interested in Egbuka prior to season but meh. Only reason he is mentioned to us IMO is the Ohio State connection with Stroud.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Okay, a fun debate opportunity. CBS Sports posted their most recent 2024 Mock Draft. Texans would be picking at 17 courtesy of the Browns. The Cardinals would be picking at 9 courtesy of the low foreheads at CBS Sports.

Anyhow, the picks fell in a way that put (3) players of interest between 17 and 22….who should/would the Texans select at 17:

WR- Emeka Egbuka (Ohio State) 6-1 @ 206 lbs / est 4.42-40

WR- Rome Odunze (Washington) 6-3 @ 215 lbs / est 4.34-40

DE- Masson Smith (LSU) 6-5 @ 300 lbs / est 4.78-40 (GPS 19.8 mph in the off-season)
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After watching him against Oregon, give me Odunze
 
I’m on the Rome Odunze bandwagon if the Texans are picking 17. If this were to happen, I’d have to wonder if there are enough offensive playbook concepts to get the ball to Odunze, Collins, Dell, Woods, Brown, Metchie, and Hutchinson? Plus, could the team carry (7) WR’s?

Had to come back to this and wonder…..if the Texans OL gets better, then the running game, wouldn’t it be safe to assume that the receivers could do even more damage than they’re doing now? If this becomes the case this season, wouldn’t a strong DE/DT become the teams biggest need? Maybe I’d switch up my pick to DE/DT- Masson Smith (LSU). His size and talent along with Ryans help just may tap into his full potential, which should pull the double and triple teaming off WAJ.
 
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OptimisticTexan said:
I’m on the Rome Odunze bandwagon if the Texans are picking 17. If this were to happen, I’d have to wonder if there are enough offensive playbook concepts to get the ball to Odunze, Collins, Dell, Woods, Brown, Metchie, and Hutchinson? Plus, could the team carry (7) WR’s?
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Brown is on a one year deal and will probably be gone, and yes they can carry 6 WR
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Okay, a fun debate opportunity. CBS Sports posted their most recent 2024 Mock Draft. Texans would be picking at 17 courtesy of the Browns. The Cardinals would be picking at 9 courtesy of the low foreheads at CBS Sports.

Anyhow, the picks fell in a way that put (3) players of interest between 17 and 22….who should/would the Texans select at 17:

WR- Emeka Egbuka (Ohio State) 6-1 @ 206 lbs / est 4.42-40

WR- Rome Odunze (Washington) 6-3 @ 215 lbs / est 4.34-40

DE- Masson Smith (LSU) 6-5 @ 300 lbs / est 4.78-40 (GPS 19.8 mph in the off-season)
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Smith is more of a dt. He's been disappointing this year, but I'm wondering if it could be the acl from last year. Another inside guy since Rankins is probably gone is Mickenly Jackson from TAMU. I think with the depth at wr in the draft, they can get a high quality dude in 2nd or 3rd rd. LSU has 2 top flight guys, Washington has 2, Ohio St has 2 and so on
 
steelbtexan said:
I'm hoping for Odunze if Bowers isn't there.

1. Odunze
2. Ja'Tavion Sanders
3. Raheim Sanders

Tell me more about Legette's game and how he stacks up with other WR's in this draft. I've only watched him against Georgia and he looked kinda avg. IMHO

Great talking shop again.
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I really like Odunze as well - and I’m trying to avoid the Gamecock Homerism - but with that said Legette reminds me of AJ Brown or Demaryius Thomas (Broncos Years). The issue he has is Rattler / Weak offensive line play.

Let’s look at a few things on Legette -

CFBNumbers
CFBNUmBERS
@CFBNumbers
Highest PFF Receiving Grade vs. Single Coverage among Power 5 WRs this season:
Xavier Legette (South Carolina) 95.0
Malik Nabers (LSU) 94.0
Elijhah Badger (Arizona State) 89.8
Keon Coleman (Florida State) 89.2
Luther Burden III (Missouri) 89.1
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Legette 6’3 227 4.29/40 (Unofficial) Huge Catch Radius and amazing YAC

Brown 6’1 226 4.49/40 Huge Catch Radius and amazing YAC

Thomas 6’3 226 4.42/40 Huge Catch Radius and amazing YAC

The only concern I have with Legette is why did it take him 5 years to put it together - but then I think of Joe Burrow and I know sometimes it just clicks later for some players.

I hate posting highlight reels but I have to do it to show his ability.


His ability to separate at his size translates to the NFL game. I don’t think he will make it to the first round because of his late bloomer status, but I absolutely would look at him round 2/3. He’s a physical specimen Ala Rocket Sanders - and I think Houston needs more of those players.
 
steelbtexan said:
Add Wilkins or Reader and one of Hunter, Banks . Do you think if say they signed Wilkins and Hunter, would they still have enough cap space to sign Jordyn Brooks?

Great talking shop again.
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Wilkins is currently slotted to make between Jonathan Allen and Dexter Lawrence. 4 Years 72 Million to 4 Years 87.5 Million. So we are talking 18/21.5 per year. Let’s say he gets a 4 year 80 million dollar deal. That’s 20 million of our cap.

Hunter is on a 1 year 17 million dollar deal. He is likely looking for 3/45 to 4/70 range. That’s a big range and I am not sure where he will settle and who will pony that up. If he keeps playing the way he has I am leaning towards him getting closer to 4/65 over 3/45. That would be another 16.5 million towards our cap, 1/3 of our cap space if we also sign Wilkins. Would we spend 1/3 of our available cap on the defensive line - maybe (San Fran has done it).

Brooks will make between 14/18 million a year depending on what he does over the remainder of this year. His low comp is Devondre Campbell (he should obliterate that contract) and his high comps are Roquon Smith, Shaquille Leonard, and Fred Warner (all making 19-20 million). I can see him being happy with 4/60 but I also could see him pushing for 5/80. With the cap spiking it’s always interesting what the latest player who slots in slightly below the talent of current deals demands. If his production tails off you may see him sign for 4/55 but I really think with his age and draft slot and talent level he may demand more. We shall see. That’s a lot for the Texans to throw at 3 players without adding weapons for Stroud, addressing the secondary, resigning our own guys, and saving money for draft collateral.

I think we see one or two big defensive signings, one big offensive signing, and a bunch of smaller moves to prepare for the draft. Nick doesn’t seem to be a swing for the fences guy in Free agency - he will make his waves by free balling on draft day trades (for team friendly controllable contracts.)
 
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JWLCASPER said:
I really like Odunze as well - and I’m trying to avoid the Gamecock Homerism - but with that said Legette reminds me of AJ Brown or Demaryius Thomas (Broncos Years). The issue he has is Rattler / Weak offensive line play.

Let’s look at a few things on Legette -

CFBNumbers
CFBNUmBERS
@CFBNumbers
Highest PFF Receiving Grade vs. Single Coverage among Power 5 WRs this season:
Xavier Legette (South Carolina) 95.0
Malik Nabers (LSU) 94.0
Elijhah Badger (Arizona State) 89.8
Keon Coleman (Florida State) 89.2
Luther Burden III (Missouri) 89.1
#CFB #CollegeFootball


Legette 6’3 227 4.29/40 (Unofficial) Huge Catch Radius and amazing YAC

Brown 6’1 226 4.49/40 Huge Catch Radius and amazing YAC

Thomas 6’3 226 4.42/40 Huge Catch Radius and amazing YAC

The only concern I have with Legette is why did it take him 5 years to put it together - but then I think of Joe Burrow and I know sometimes it just clicks later for some players.

I hate posting highlight reels but I have to do it to show his ability.


His ability to separate at his size translates to the NFL game. I don’t think he will make it to the first round because of his late bloomer status, but I absolutely would look at him round 2/3. He’s a physical specimen Ala Rocket Sanders - and I think Houston needs more of those players.
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Wow…..nice find. No homerism in this WR. If that 4.29-40 speed finds its way to the Texans side of the ball, there’s no doubt he’d have a QB1 in Stroud that could get him the ball in stride all day and everyday.

If he pops that 4.29-40 speed at the Combine…..he could very well move into RD1.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Wow…..nice find. No homerism in this WR. If that 4.29-40 speed finds its way to the Texans side of the ball, there’s no doubt he’d have a QB1 in Stroud that could get him the ball in stride all day and everyday.

If he pops that 4.29-40 speed at the Combine…..he could very well move into RD1.
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I genuinely feel like he's round 1 already.

Only reason to drop is that this class is pretty heavily loaded, especially at receiver.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Wow…..nice find. No homerism in this WR. If that 4.29-40 speed finds its way to the Texans side of the ball, there’s no doubt he’d have a QB1 in Stroud that could get him the ball in stride all day and everyday.

If he pops that 4.29-40 speed at the Combine…..he could very well move into RD1.
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Any thoughts on who would move out of round one if that occurs? I have positions in mind I want Caserio to resolve between trades and off season acquisition.
 
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