badboy
Hall of Fame
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How patient are y’all going to be with CJ Stroud this season?
- Thread starter Mangler
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badboy
Hall of Fame
I am going to cheer each INT Stroud has and yell "take that Peyton Manning! We are coming after you!"
We should wait until game 5-6 of yr 3 before even starting to judge Stroud. This means even if he has a good rookie yr.
Let's assume that the NYG have next year's #1 pick. Would you be favor of trading Stroud to them in return for that pick so that Houston can pick a real QB?
You said the Texans should win 10 games this year with just average QB play, but they will only win 6-7 games because of Stroud.
That ought to mean that you think he's at most below average, likely on the low side.
That's at most a tad above BAD.
I don't see the contradiction here. It's not going to be because of how Stroud plays. It's about his agent, the people he hangs around with, & his S2 score.
I thought you were joking. Are you seriously saying you can't decipher the meaning of that post?
I've said this before and I say it again.
With you, there's no telling, so I have to play both sides, because that what you often did.
So I gave you a laughing emoji, and also that link.
There's also a reason for that link.
Hint: it may not be for you.
He looks like a Godfather in that pic
That is awesome to see. The team voting him captain before he'd even played a game says a lot. That's a room full of grown ass men choosing a 21 yo rookie as a leader. Your post just confirms why. Thanks for posting it.
I think it's awesome that DeMeco is connected to CJ as a mentor, friend, and HC, and both in their first years. They are both natural leaders and very mature at young ages. I doubt CJ strays considering his HC is a former player and has such a solid support structure around him.
I think this is the foundation of great things. Kool Aid, optimism, whatever, I'm buying in as a fan, especially after seeing what he's capable of in just four games.
Is Bryce Young hanging out with the Texans for dinner?
I'm really hoping for a McDermott/Josh Allen type of situation to occur here.That is awesome to see. The team voting him captain before he'd even played a game says a lot. That's a room full of grown ass men choosing a 21 yo rookie as a leader. Your post just confirms why. Thanks for posting it.
I think it's awesome that DeMeco is connected to CJ as a mentor, friend, and HC, and both in their first years. They are both natural leaders and very mature at young ages. I doubt CJ strays considering his HC is a former player and has such a solid support structure around him.
I think this is the foundation of great things. Kool Aid, optimism, whatever, I'm buying in as a fan, especially after seeing what he's capable of in just four games.
I still have my concerns about a defensive head coach (especially with hype already building around Slowik) but that McDermott Allen combo is the shining example of a defensive head coach in the modern NFL. Allen had a good OC in Daboll to guide him early and develop him, hopefully Slowik will be around for 2 years to really get CJ going and then hopefully have Jerrod Johnson step in once Slowik is inevitably hired away. Then by that point the hope is CJ is good enough to perform relatively independently of his OC and DeMeco can coach up a great defense year in and year out.
We shall see
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
CJ is lighting up the league, the team and the fanbase and is as exciting a prospect we have seen in a Texans uni since DW4 was doing well.
Still, as a long suffering Texans fan, I cannot let myself get over the top excited until a full season or even halfway into the second as teams tend to find a weakness or two to bring them back to earth.
Still, I can enjoy the current success and dream of what's possible with what I am seeing.
Here's hoping for a bright and successful future.
Still, as a long suffering Texans fan, I cannot let myself get over the top excited until a full season or even halfway into the second as teams tend to find a weakness or two to bring them back to earth.
Still, I can enjoy the current success and dream of what's possible with what I am seeing.
Here's hoping for a bright and successful future.
DanielTx
Chosen one
Some bad takes in this thread. Kind of embarrassing. Even with Bryce Young poor play, Carolina fans still have faith but Cj throws 1 int in preseason and it’s the end of the world. Hey sorry guys we drafted a generational qb. I would delete some of the bs in here. Very cringe
WTF you talkin' about Willis?
It's a fun read.
Decim8
Veteran
I’m on the same boat
Mangler
Toro de España
Na, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It’s ok for people to change their mind. This ain’t China or Cuba. Besides, CJ is making believers out of doubters every Sunday.
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what's so funny?
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
Exactly. That’s the problem with the interwebs… if you said it then you must live with it. Bleh. We are allowed to change our minds.
Still fun/funny to read though.
All I said was that I didn't know that Bobbly Slowick would have this team ready. How would I?Still fun/funny to read though.
Cj surprised me. If the Texans had selected a different QB, Young or Richardson, would things look the same? I think not. Bryce Young has a much cleaner pocket to work from & he can't get the ball out.
So.. who knew? I'm glad I was wrong.
Mangler
Toro de España
They didn’t know either, and if they say they did they’re full of sh*t.
Texansballer74
The Marine
They saw something in him that’s why they drafted him versus another team trying it’s best to sway them otherwise. So they knew something after diligently scouting him.
Sometimes you hit and sometimes you don’t. Looks like they were correct this time around.
I think he was talking about posters, not the Texans
The part that is funny was how you said the team is not ready for a rookie QB.
My stance has always been to draft the QB when you like him well enough and build around him.
I had mentioned guys like Herbert, Burrow, Mahomes, even Manning.
That those teams did not have the Oline intact when they drafted their QB.
I also said many times in the past that I like the QB to be able to use all 11 guys on the field; meaning that such QB needs to be able to use his Olinemen correctly and to find the open receiver or his outlet quickly to allow them to make plays.
I do not prefer guys like Richardson (though I did say that he's a good one)
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Would seem after only four games, Stroud firmly grasps the whole playbook, he’s digesting Slowick system so quickly. You couldn’t have been more wrong. Anything but nervous with antsy feet
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
I knew.
I totally knew.
I was just under a vow of secrecy so I couldn't let on that I knew.
Yeah.
That's it.
That's the ticket. Vow of secrecy.
Surprised everyone to some extent. I thought the Texans would be around the 20th-21st in total offense. And that was before the epidemic of OL injuries. I thought Stroud would be better at the end of the season than at the beginning. If that is true, lookout NFL.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
As has been stated over and over again, the only rookie with more yards in his first 4 games was Cam Newton. But Cam Newton opened up with 2 400 yard passing games then a 300 yarder in his 3rd game, but then ended up the season only averaging 250 ypg. So he really tailed off at the end of that season.
But while Cam Newton was basically getting worse game by game, CJ's getting better.
SteelB's bar was for him to be in the top 5-10 and he's already knocking at that door. If he keeps improving... ??? I need to sit down...
Cam finished his rookie season with 4051 yards, 21 TDs & 17 INTs. Not too slouchy. Good enough to win OROY in 2011. It would be a disappointment if Stroud didn't beat those numbers across the board in his rookie year.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Yeah. I remember. I can vouch for you because I was there. Saw it play out first hand. I knew too, but it was that vow of secrecy.
Yep. I was there.
Totally knew.
Secrets. Man. You know how that goes.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
You signed an NDR. What were you supposed to do?
Hervoyel
BUENO!
We're original recipe Texans fans. We've seen highly regarded "top of the first round" rookie QB's come in and we've seen what can happen to them. Maybe not as much as Browns fans but we've seen it go wrong before (particularly with OL issues rearing their heads) and so we are by and large fairly skeptical. Makes sense he'd be better at the end than the beginning of the year. If he keeps going up it's going to really run around here in no time at all.
So, when are you going to finally man up and admit that you were completely wrong about Stroud?
I doubt you even show your face again.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
So, when are you going to finally man up and admit that you were completely wrong about Stroud?
I doubt you even show your face again.
He will be back. He always comes back.
When we are at our lowest again that is when he returns. The Texans/Stroud will have a bad game. He will be back for an I told you so. And then disappear when the Texans/Stroud rights the ship.
Nah, and like I've said, you gotta give a QB 2 1/2 seasons before you know what you really have at QB. Why? Defenses make adjustments, particularly in the offseason. With Slowik and Johnson coaching Stroud up I thing the adjustment period will be minimal. The future is bright. Much brighter than it's ever been as a Texans fan. If Stroud keeps improving the Texans will be a true contender for the 1st time since their inception during the rookie QB window.
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& I stand by that. I don't think I was wrong.
WhoGivesAsht? If I asked, or if that post was in response to what you thought I could see the "lol" But it wasn't. It was my opinion, which I'm free to give here & it would be nice if folks didn't go around nitpicking each other's opinion. That's not discussion.
Still, I said many times, "If the Texans think their guy is in this draft, last draft, the draft two years ago.... they should draft him." I didn't think Cj Stroud/Bryce Young/Anthony Richardson/etc... were "can't miss, franchise" guys.
Looks like I was wrong about Cj Stroud. I think I've admitted that more than once. "lol" doesn't further discussion. It's more, "I'm a prick & I want to make sure you know it."
So you've missed my point all together... makes the "lol" even worse.
Cool, let's talk about that.
Got nothing to do with me. If Steichen thinks Richardson is a franchise QB, more power to him. I'm glad I'm not a Colts fan. I'm glad Steichen isn't the Texans coach, but if he was I'd be onboard. I'd disagree, hope for the best, & root for the Texans.
lol
Not a big deal.
I just found the comment that the Texans aren't ready for a rookie QB funny is all.
Why, they weren't. You're basically saying the same thing when you say draft your QB & build around him. Different strokes, different folks. & if you can't tell, that's not what's happening here. The coaches are doing an incredible job getting good results from fundamental techniques.
If it wasn't a big deal, you wouldn't have dug up those old posts to lol about.
Somebody mentioned about all the posts in the thread.
Post no. 269, specifically.
I was passing the time so I reread them.
Big deal.