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JB said:
You do know that the S2 score is only a minor reason he calls him dumb? It has nothing to do with Stroud's general intelligence or football IQ
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Yeah, I know. I'm only talking football related because the character/intelligence assassination is superfluous (at best) and straight up gossipy at worst.

Dragging a young man's reputation through the mud says more about the person dragging than the young man himself, and I'll just leave it at that.

TexansBull said:
I don’t know why people think that steel’s opinion on the S2 test will change. Why keep going in circles.
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I don't care about changing his opinion on the S2, but I refuse to be silent while he attacks the character of a 21 year old that has done nothing wrong.

I've hung out with all sorts of characters, including a member of a notorious motorcycle club, drug dealers, guys associated with a certain notorious Italian group, etc. It happens when you play live music and work for an international business.

It says nothing about me other than I'm capable of being myself without being influenced by others.

banned1976 said:
The less I know about the Texans coach's political views, or views on anything other than football the better. But that's just me, I might be in the minority.
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My attitude summed up in one meme:

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:clown:

steelbtexan said:
Just to be clear on my opinions

6. I enjoy watching train wrecks, faces of death etc...
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Wow. You enjoy. . .Faces of Death. . .like ENJOY it ??!. . . :mcnugget: ooooh-kaaay

steelbtexan said:
Chad Forbes was one guy who posted the scores.

Tony Pauline was another and I think Brugler also posted this yrs scores.
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So you trust those guys, and also claim to trust the guys that made the actual S2 test. Then this should matter to you, as well (except it undermines your narrative):

Brandon Ally, a cofounder of the test, stated Monday on The Pat McAfee Show that the leaked S2 scores for the quarterbacks in this year’s draft class weren’t entirely accurate and did not hold the proper context. Earlier in the year, he said to take any leaked score with “a grain of salt.” Source: SI.com
 
Texans fans have paid to be screwed for a long time.

1685745712495.png...............still wondering, which Tuesday??

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4 Texas sports teams ranked among the most-profitable in the world, report says
In-state rival, Dallas Cowboys, tops list of most-profitable that includes 13 NFL franchises.

Author: Jaime E. Galvan
Published: 11:38 AM CDT June 2, 2023
Updated: 12:28 PM CDT June 2, 2023

HOUSTON — The Houston Texans may not have had a winning record on the field over the past few seasons, but they have been winners at the bank.

The team, which is owned by Janice McNair, was ranked the sixth most-profitable sports team in the world, according to a new report from Forbes magazine. The Texans’ in-state rival, the Dallas Cowboys, top the list which includes a total of 13 NFL teams.

According to Forbes, the Texans had a three-year total operating income of $356 million. These are the earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization.

The Cowboys top the list at $1.17 billion over the same period, according to the report. The New England Patriots, another notable NFL franchise, were ranked second with $623 million.

These figures for the NFL teams came from the 2019-2021 seasons, the report states.

In their report, Forbes said the NFL leads the list since they limit players' salaries to just under 50% of revenue and have such lucrative broadcasting deals.

The Tottenham Hotspur FC, of the English Premier League, the NBA’s New York Knicks, and Manchester United, also of the EPL, rounded out the top five.

Two other Texas teams made the top 25, both NBA. The Dallas Mavericks ranked 16th with $282 million and the Houston Rockets ranked 23rd with $240 million, the report states.

No MLB, including Houston Astros, who are coming off their second World Series Championship, or NHL teams made the list.

According to the report, this is due in part to those leagues’ gate receipts suffering during the COVID-19 pandemic.
 
Why a reunion with DeAndre Hopkins is a bad idea for the Houston Texans
Hopkins spent seven seasons in Houston and posted 1,000 receiving yards in five of them before he was traded to Arizona in 2020.

Author: Andy Patton (Locked On)
Published: 2:05 PM CDT June 2, 2023
Updated: 2:05 PM CDT June 2, 2023

HOUSTON — DeAndre Hopkins is a free agent for the first time in his illustrious NFL career, and a reunion with the Houston Texans - who drafted him in 2013 - remains a possibility.

Hopkins spent seven seasons in Houston and posted 1,000 receiving yards in five of them before he was traded to Arizona in 2020.

Now he's available once more, and while the Texans have undergone a significant amount of changes to their wide receiver corps this offseason, now is not the time for a reunion with the veteran wideout - at least not according to the hosts at Locked on Texans, Coty Davis and John Hickman, and guest Brian Barefield.

"I think what you will do is handicap your rookie quarterback because D-Hop in his mind is wide receiver one," Barefield said. "You can never tell him he's not wide receiver one. So if he comes here CJ [Stroud] is going to feel obligated to throw it to him because if he doesn't DeAndre is going to say something."

Houston traded veteran wideout Brandin Cooks earlier this offseason, but they brought in another veteran, Robert Woods, to fill his role while also signing Noah Brown and drafting a pair of wideouts in Tank Dell and Xavier Hutchinson.

While Hopkins would no doubt contribute to this Houston squad, adding a player like this could stunt the development of Houston's younger wide receivers while creating a more difficult team to navigate for Stroud - who is expected to start over Davis Mills in 2023.

Hopkins has been connected to a handful of teams already, including a reunion with old friend Deshaun Watson in Cleveland and a move to New England to join the Patriots. While a return to Houston makes sense on paper, there are plenty of reasons this team may avoid making this move ahead of Stroud's rookie season.
 
2023 NFL Cap Space, By Team
June 2nd, 2023 at 3:33pm CST by Sam Robinson
The start of June has served as a key NFL financial period for decades. While teams no longer have to wait until after June 1 to make that cost-splitting cut designation, teams pick up the savings from those transactions today. With a handful of teams making post-June 1 cuts this year, here is how each team’s cap space (courtesy of OverTheCap) looks as of Friday:
  1. Chicago Bears: $32.58MM
  2. Carolina Panthers: $27.25MM
  3. Arizona Cardinals: $26.68MM
  4. New York Jets: $24.79MM
  5. Detroit Lions: $23.72MM
  6. Indianapolis Colts: $23.39MM
  7. Dallas Cowboys: $20.48MM
  8. Houston Texans: $16.81MM
  9. Green Bay Packers: $16.57MM
  10. Pittsburgh Steelers: $15.73MM
  11. Cincinnati Bengals: $14.92MM
  12. New Orleans Saints: $14.27MM
  13. New England Patriots: $14.12MM
  14. Miami Dolphins: $13.9MM
  15. Cleveland Browns: $13.86MM
  16. Philadelphia Eagles: $13.85MM
  17. Los Angeles Chargers: $12.61MM
  18. Jacksonville Jaguars: $12MM
  19. Washington Commanders: $11.57MM
  20. Baltimore Ravens: $11.54MM
  21. San Francisco 49ers: $10.72MM
  22. Atlanta Falcons: $10.7MM
  23. Denver Broncos: $10.13MM
  24. Minnesota Vikings: $9.75MM
  25. Tennessee Titans: $7.99MM
  26. Seattle Seahawks: $7.94MM
  27. New York Giants: $3.82MM
  28. Las Vegas Raiders: $3.37MM
  29. Los Angeles Rams: $1.49MM
  30. Buffalo Bills: $1.4MM
  31. Kansas City Chiefs: $653K
  32. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $402K
The Dolphins gained the most from a post-June 1 cut (Byron Jones) this year, creating $13.6MM in cap space from a deal that will spread out the cornerback’s dead money through 2024. But the Browns (John Johnson, Jadeveon Clowney) and Cowboys (Ezekiel Elliott) created more than $10MM in space as well.
The Jets’ number is a bit deceiving. They are still working on a restructure with Aaron Rodgers, as the trade acquisition’s cap number — after a Packers restructure — sits at just $1.22MM. In 2024, that number skyrockets to $107.6MM. Rodgers’ cap hit will almost definitely will climb before Week 1, so viewing the Jets along with the other teams north of $20MM in space is not entirely accurate.
Minnesota is moving closer to separating from its $12.6MM-per-year Dalvin Cook contract. The team already created some space by trading Za’Darius Smith to the Browns. Cleveland, which is one of the teams connected to DeAndre Hopkins, added Smith and did so with help from its Deshaun Watson restructure. Watson was set to count $54.9MM against the Browns’ 2023 cap. That number is down to $19.1MM, though the Browns’ restructure both ballooned Watson’s mid-2020s cap figures to $63.9MM — which would shatter the NFL record — and added a 2027 void year.
Tampa Bay and Los Angeles sit atop the league in dead money, with the Bucs — largely from their April 2022 Tom Brady restructure — checking in at $75.3MM here. That total comprises nearly 33% of the Bucs’ 2023 cap sheet. The Rams, at more than $74MM, are not far behind. Despite the Bills and Chiefs — the teams most frequently tied to Hopkins — joining the Bucs and Rams near the bottom of the league in cap space, both AFC contenders also sit in the bottom five in dead money.
 
Double Barrel said:
Wow. You enjoy. . .Faces of Death. . .like ENJOY it ??!. . . :mcnugget: ooooh-kaaay
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Way back when Faces of Death came out on VHS, my then teenage nephews got me to see it. Not to be a spoiler, but it starts out with animals being killed. The last one, a monkey, was particularly horrific. Then, an animal killed a person. After all of the humans killing animals, I actually cheered for the human death.

That stuff can get to you.
 
Lucky said:
Way back when Faces of Death came out on VHS, my then teenage nephews got me to see it. Not to be a spoiler, but it starts out with animals being killed. The last one, a monkey, was particularly horrific. Then, an animal killed a person. After all of the humans killing animals, I actually cheered for the human death.

That stuff can get to you.
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Oh man, if you’re talking about the monkey at the center of a table surrounded by hungry humans, that was horrific.
 
Lucky said:
Way back when Faces of Death came out on VHS, my then teenage nephews got me to see it. Not to be a spoiler, but it starts out with animals being killed. The last one, a monkey, was particularly horrific. Then, an animal killed a person. After all of the humans killing animals, I actually cheered for the human death.

That stuff can get to you.
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The two years leading up to my end stage liver disease (from alcoholism) I got into a very morbid mood and spent way too much time (any amount of time was too much) on gore sites and reading every true crime serial killer book I could get my hands on. I watched a lot of necklacing videos out of Africa. You can google necklacing but I highly recommend not seeking any videos or pictures. I think the gore sites have been banned but I'm not sure.

Since my liver transplant I can't look at any of that kind of stuff. I think the heavy alcohol use (up to a liter of 100 proof vodka a day) poisoned my mind and desensitized it from violence.
 
I can't find the Hopkins thread so I'm sharing this here rather than create a new thread.

Maybe that ship has sailed buy is it possible that the staff could bring him in and asked to mentor all of the younger players?
 
banned1976 said:
The two years leading up to my end stage liver disease (from alcoholism) I got into a very morbid mood and spent way too much time (any amount of time was too much) on gore sites and reading every true crime serial killer book I could get my hands on. I watched a lot of necklacing videos out of Africa. You can google necklacing but I highly recommend not seeking any videos or pictures. I think the gore sites have been banned but I'm not sure.

Since my liver transplant I can't look at any of that kind of stuff. I think the heavy alcohol use (up to a liter of 100 proof vodka a day) poisoned my mind and desensitized it from violence.
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I rarely drink, but am highly desensitized to that stuff anyhow. Mostly just from surfing the web over the years. Was a member of most of the gore sights when they existed, and key take away from those vids is what country(ies) not to travel to.
 
Double Barrel said:
Yeah, I know. I'm only talking football related because the character/intelligence assassination is superfluous (at best) and straight up gossipy at worst.

Dragging a young man's reputation through the mud says more about the person dragging than the young man himself, and I'll just leave it at that.



I don't care about changing his opinion on the S2, but I refuse to be silent while he attacks the character of a 21 year old that has done nothing wrong.

I've hung out with all sorts of characters, including a member of a notorious motorcycle club, drug dealers, guys associated with a certain notorious Italian group, etc. It happens when you play live music and work for an international business.

It says nothing about me other than I'm capable of being myself without being influenced by others.



My attitude summed up in one meme:

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Wow. You enjoy. . .Faces of Death. . .like ENJOY it ??!. . . :mcnugget: ooooh-kaaay



So you trust those guys, and also claim to trust the guys that made the actual S2 test. Then this should matter to you, as well (except it undermines your narrative):

Brandon Ally, a cofounder of the test, stated Monday on The Pat McAfee Show that the leaked S2 scores for the quarterbacks in this year’s draft class weren’t entirely accurate and did not hold the proper context. Earlier in the year, he said to take any leaked score with “a grain of salt.” Source: SI.com
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Did you notice how the Stroud group hasn't denied the score. Ever wonder why?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Texans fans have paid to be screwed for a long time.

View attachment 12178...............still wondering, which Tuesday??

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4 Texas sports teams ranked among the most-profitable in the world, report says
In-state rival, Dallas Cowboys, tops list of most-profitable that includes 13 NFL franchises.

Author: Jaime E. Galvan
Published: 11:38 AM CDT June 2, 2023
Updated: 12:28 PM CDT June 2, 2023

HOUSTON — The Houston Texans may not have had a winning record on the field over the past few seasons, but they have been winners at the bank.

The team, which is owned by Janice McNair, was ranked the sixth most-profitable sports team in the world, according to a new report from Forbes magazine. The Texans’ in-state rival, the Dallas Cowboys, top the list which includes a total of 13 NFL teams.

According to Forbes, the Texans had a three-year total operating income of $356 million. These are the earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization.

The Cowboys top the list at $1.17 billion over the same period, according to the report. The New England Patriots, another notable NFL franchise, were ranked second with $623 million.

These figures for the NFL teams came from the 2019-2021 seasons, the report states.

In their report, Forbes said the NFL leads the list since they limit players' salaries to just under 50% of revenue and have such lucrative broadcasting deals.

The Tottenham Hotspur FC, of the English Premier League, the NBA’s New York Knicks, and Manchester United, also of the EPL, rounded out the top five.

Two other Texas teams made the top 25, both NBA. The Dallas Mavericks ranked 16th with $282 million and the Houston Rockets ranked 23rd with $240 million, the report states.

No MLB, including Houston Astros, who are coming off their second World Series Championship, or NHL teams made the list.

According to the report, this is due in part to those leagues’ gate receipts suffering during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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This is what the McNair's are all about. Not the product on the field.
 
JB said:
Because they don't care
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Nor should they care. Doesn't mean the score isn't correct. I know if it was my score and it was incorrect I would be shouting from the mountain tops letting people know my score was incorrect.

The dumbazz McNair's encouraged/allowed him to be picked anyways. So the score no longer matters.
 
JB said:
So why won't you let it go?
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I dont even bring up the S-2 score. I just answer other posters posts and refer to Stroud as dumb on many levels. I really am more interested in the trainwreck that's going to happen after yr 3.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Texans fans have paid to be screwed for a long time.

View attachment 12178...............still wondering, which Tuesday??

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4 Texas sports teams ranked among the most-profitable in the world, report says
In-state rival, Dallas Cowboys, tops list of most-profitable that includes 13 NFL franchises.

Author: Jaime E. Galvan
Published: 11:38 AM CDT June 2, 2023
Updated: 12:28 PM CDT June 2, 2023

HOUSTON — The Houston Texans may not have had a winning record on the field over the past few seasons, but they have been winners at the bank.

The team, which is owned by Janice McNair, was ranked the sixth most-profitable sports team in the world, according to a new report from Forbes magazine. The Texans’ in-state rival, the Dallas Cowboys, top the list which includes a total of 13 NFL teams.

According to Forbes, the Texans had a three-year total operating income of $356 million. These are the earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization.

The Cowboys top the list at $1.17 billion over the same period, according to the report. The New England Patriots, another notable NFL franchise, were ranked second with $623 million.

These figures for the NFL teams came from the 2019-2021 seasons, the report states.

In their report, Forbes said the NFL leads the list since they limit players' salaries to just under 50% of revenue and have such lucrative broadcasting deals.

The Tottenham Hotspur FC, of the English Premier League, the NBA’s New York Knicks, and Manchester United, also of the EPL, rounded out the top five.

Two other Texas teams made the top 25, both NBA. The Dallas Mavericks ranked 16th with $282 million and the Houston Rockets ranked 23rd with $240 million, the report states.

No MLB, including Houston Astros, who are coming off their second World Series Championship, or NHL teams made the list.

According to the report, this is due in part to those leagues’ gate receipts suffering during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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The Channel 11 story was based on a report from Forbes, a leading financial publication, but I'm still skeptical about
the story because I dunno how they would get access to the books to all of those Pro sports franchises ?
 
JB said:
So he's not going to be like Watson? That's a good thing
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This will go down exactly like it did with Derrick, excluding the sexual predator stuff. This is his agents MO. They're all about the money, not about winning championships. So I guess DM and the McNair's have this in common.
 
IDEXAN said:
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The Channel 11 story was based on a report from Forbes, a leading financial publication, but I'm still skeptical about
the story because I dunno how they would get access to the books to all of those Pro sports franchises ?
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JB said:
Don't they have to report earnings like everyone else?
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Professional football leagues
SUBSECTION:
Annual Filing and Forms

In general, exempt organizations are required to file annual returns, although there are exceptions. If an organization does not file a required return or files late, the IRS may assess penalties. In addition, if an organization does not file as required for three consecutive years, it automatically loses its tax-exempt status.
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Ranked: The Most Valuable NFL Teams in 2022

To calculate team values, Forbes used enterprise values (total team equity plus net debt) and factored in each team's stadium-related revenue. This includes non-NFL revenue that accrues to each team's owner, but doesn't account for the stadium's real estate value.
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Here’s How Rich Every NFL Team Is
Apr 28, 2023
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Methodology: In order to discover how rich every NFL is, GOBankingRates used Forbes’ “NFL Team Values 2022” data to find the following factors for all 32 NFL teams; (1) revenue from the 2021-22 season; (2) operating income for the 2021-22 season; (3) current team value entering the 2022-23 season, and (4) the 1-year change in value from the start of the 2021-22 season to the start of the 2022-23 season. Only factor (1) was used to determine final rankings. All data was collected on and up to date as of August 23, 2022.
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Lucky said:
Way back when Faces of Death came out on VHS, my then teenage nephews got me to see it. Not to be a spoiler, but it starts out with animals being killed. The last one, a monkey, was particularly horrific. Then, an animal killed a person. After all of the humans killing animals, I actually cheered for the human death.

That stuff can get to you.
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Was it the guy who got ate by the alligator?
 
I like to check in to Texans Talk everyday. For a time when I am the most optimistic or at least hopeful for a new direction from new leadership, I find negativity infecting every thread by a select few. I'm mostly a lurker but the constant downer is having me rethink visiting here. After all, it is supposed to be a FAN site.
 
heymak said:
I like to check in to Texans Talk everyday. For a time when I am the most optimistic or at least hopeful for a new direction from new leadership, I find negativity infecting every thread by a select few. I'm mostly a lurker but the constant downer is having me rethink visiting here. After all, it is supposed to be a FAN site.
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The negativity you will find from me is mainly in the Stroud threads. Sorry guys like me make you feel this way.

It's possible to be a fan of the team, but not be a fan of ownership. A fan should be able to recognize history repeating itself and still be a fan of the team.
 
heymak said:
With such limited or no real NFL data on Stroud, it feels like you've just projected your feelings about "Derrick" to Stroud. I uses to enjoy your post and still do when it has to do with X's and O's. The rest.... I'll just leave at that.
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I don't like the person or the player.

I'll leave it at that.
 
6'3' 210 lbs

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Houston Texans Sign Pitt WR Jared Wayne
Pitt Panthers receiver Jared Wayne did not get drafted but will get his shot at the NFL.
PITTSBURGH -- Pitt Panthers wide receiver Jared Wayne was not one of the 259 players taken in the 2023 NFL Draft but he will still get his chance to make an NFL roster after the Houston Texans signed him as an undrafted free agent immediately following the draft.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1652447158543458308

Wayne improved steadily with each passing year at Pitt. He made four starts in 2019 and three in 2020 while hauling in a combined 39 passes for 587 yards and two touchdowns. He became a regular part of the receiver rotation in 2021, when he finished second in receptions (47), yards (658) and touchdowns (six) for that team's record-setting, ACC Championship-winning offense. His final season was his best, when he eclipsed 1,000 yards and hauled in five touchdowns before declaring for the NFL Draft.

He flew under the radar during the draft process but turned some heads with impressive numbers in the 40-yard dash and vertical leap at his Pro Day. Scouts with the Texans clearly took notice and had seen enough between his film and in-person scouting to feel comfortable taking a flier on Pitt's leading receiver from a year ago.
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JB said:
Don't they have to report earnings like everyone else?
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"Earnings" is a financial term (like in financial accounting) and those earnings are yes required to be reported publicly thru the SEC if the entity/company's securities including common stack are traded publicly but the Texans are not since most if not all NFL teams are privately held corporations I believe.
Now of course the Texans and other NFL organizations pay income taxes but that's strictly between the teams and the IRS and state revenue authorities.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
This IRS rule refers to the NFL View attachment 12182

Professional football leagues
SUBSECTION:
Annual Filing and Forms




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Ranked: The Most Valuable NFL Teams in 2022

Dec 20, 2022


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Here’s How Rich Every NFL Team Is
CloakNNNdagger said:
This IRS rule refers to the NFL View attachment 12182

Professional football leagues
SUBSECTION:
Annual Filing and Forms




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Ranked: The Most Valuable NFL Teams in 2022

Dec 20, 2022


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Here’s How Rich Every NFL Team Is
Apr 28, 2023
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9 min Read
By George Malone

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Apr 28, 2023
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9 min Read
By George Malone

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"To calculate team values, Forbes used enterprise values (total team equity plus net debt) and factored in each team's stadium-related revenue. This includes non-NFL revenue that accrues to each team's owner, but doesn't account for the stadium's real estate value."
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Total team equity plus net debt": I dunno what they mean by team equity because is that "book equity" (an accounting term) or
market value equity ? I assume it's book other wise they are obviously mixing apples and oranges.
I have some accounting background but I'm sure no expert on valuing pro sports franchises.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
6'3' 210 lbs

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1664635221956784130

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Houston Texans Sign Pitt WR Jared Wayne
Pitt Panthers receiver Jared Wayne did not get drafted but will get his shot at the NFL.
PITTSBURGH -- Pitt Panthers wide receiver Jared Wayne was not one of the 259 players taken in the 2023 NFL Draft but he will still get his chance to make an NFL roster after the Houston Texans signed him as an undrafted free agent immediately following the draft.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1652447158543458308

Wayne improved steadily with each passing year at Pitt. He made four starts in 2019 and three in 2020 while hauling in a combined 39 passes for 587 yards and two touchdowns. He became a regular part of the receiver rotation in 2021, when he finished second in receptions (47), yards (658) and touchdowns (six) for that team's record-setting, ACC Championship-winning offense. His final season was his best, when he eclipsed 1,000 yards and hauled in five touchdowns before declaring for the NFL Draft.

He flew under the radar during the draft process but turned some heads with impressive numbers in the 40-yard dash and vertical leap at his Pro Day. Scouts with the Texans clearly took notice and had seen enough between his film and in-person scouting to feel comfortable taking a flier on Pitt's leading receiver from a year ago.
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I hope he makes the team.
 
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