Oh, I talk ball.Shame you no longer do that
You might want to go take a look at the draft section
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Oh, I talk ball.Shame you no longer do that
Cousins would be a good example of what I think Stroud will become. Very avg and very overpaid in a little over three years.
The S-2 tests the ability of QB's to think under pressure. Something that Stroud has already proven on the field that he's not good at doing. So yes it doesn't surprise me that he performed poorly on the S-2.I just like pointing out he’s categorically wrong about what the S2 measures
In this case the test scores and the play on the field not only matchup. They speak for themselves.No, but you do make shiite up that you can't defend.
I know dumb when I hear it. Good test scores don't ensure success. Bad test scores usually ensure failure. I know there are outliers but I wouldn't bet on outliers. Same reason I didn't want Young, he's a different kind of outlier.
The S-2 tests the ability of QB's to think under pressure. Something that Stroud has already proven on the field that he's not good at doing. So yes it doesn't surprise me that he performed poorly on the S-2.
Just to be clear on my opinions
1. Stroud’s dumb as a box of rocks.
2, At best he will be a top 10-15 QB on talent alone.
3. The McNairs are repeating history and haven't learned a damned thing from their past mistakes over the last decade, really the past 2 decades
4. The McNairs 1st priority isn't and never has been bringing a championship to Kirby
5. I enjoy talking ball with y'all
6. I enjoy watching train wrecks, faces of death etc...
7. There will be no championships.
I think throughout the yrs I've been pretty consistent with my opinions.
You're really going out on a limb there with "no championships".
You might want to go checkout the last 2 seasons of games against Michigan and there are others.There are articles,videos, and stats that go against your "terrible under pressure" narrative or at least put it into some context. Lies, damned lies, and statistics. People see what they want to see I guess....myself included.
Hope you're rightThe S2 is like a video game. CJ was given a playstation for NIL reasons at one point, played it once, and gave it back apparently. It makes me wonder if he just loathes gaming and doesn't react to it well. Who knows? The Texans have their own test that they put him through. I also heard from someone that Stroud was very impressive on the white board for multiple teams. Moreover, the Colts and Titans both loved Stroud as a prospect and they're the two AFC South teams who use the S2. Whatever occurred didn't seem to bother them one bit. Vrabel would've had all of the info in the world on CJ and nothing dissuaded him. They would've given up a bounty for 3.
He probably wants a new contract or extension now since he's 30yrs old and believes being over 30 will have some sort of negative impact on his earning potential. I believe OTAs are voluntary until the mandatory minicamp on June 13-14. Disappointing to hear with the all new coaching staff, schemes, and energy but it's his option per the rules.There's a familiar name in there with a familiar scenario.
Very disappointing. I thought he was a team playerDisappointing to hear with the all new coaching staff, schemes, and energy but it's his option per the rules.
You might want to go checkout the last 2 seasons of games against Michigan and there are others.
Like you said, we see what we want to see.I've watched every one of his games. I'm also a Michigan fan so I've watched those games more than once. I stand by what I said.
You’re going out on a limb with that username!
Like you said, we see what we want to see.
Malick Willis... If I was a QB coach/guru, I would NOT want that guy on my resume.Avery's influence on Avery goes back to high school. Like I said Avery tends to hang on to young QBs into the NFL, whether formally or informally. He has been closely associated with David Mulugheta and his QB clients. He would commonly work with Watson and Malik Willis after their team practices. Yes, Avery has inserted himself in young NFL QBs. No reason to believe that he won't with Stroud.
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No qb that's scored low on the S-2 has been successful the NFL, I don't expect this to change.
The S2 is like a video game. CJ was given a playstation for NIL reasons at one point, played it once, and gave it back apparently. It makes me wonder if he just loathes gaming and doesn't react to it well.
Show us the scores.In this case the test scores and the play on the field not only matchup. They speak for themselves.
Where's the money coming from? When has giving 30 year old WRs good $$$ been a good idea? Not a fit here.He would be a strong asset so I am on board.
Your thoughts?
I forgot to mention it would have to be a team friendly deal.Where's the money coming from? When has giving 30 year old WRs good $$$ been a good idea? Not a fit here.
I think that's been overplayed for a while. Getting on the field is where the Texans young WRs will get their education.I think he has a lot of experience to offer our young bucks.
I think that's been overplayed for a while. Getting on the field is where the Texans young WRs will get their education.
DHop like Clowney has been injured a lot lately and not to mention he was popped for PED's. He's going to have to agree to a 1- Year Veteran's Minimum deal loaded with incentives and no guaranteed money. Sure, it would be a blow to his ego. On the bright side, if he were to accept, he'd be playing football with a massive chip on his shoulder.
Like I've said before, you either trust the people who designed the test or you don't. I think we know where you stand.Show us the scores.
You keep touting scores, but won't show them. No evidence.Like I've said before, you either trust the people who designed the test or you don't. I think we know where you stand.
I trust the people who designed the test, so I don't need to know exact scores. I know a 12 is awful..You keep touting scores, but won't show them. No evidence.
Watch Bradshaw A Football Life for your answer to this.Terry Bradshaw should be counting his lucky stars there wasn't a Wonderlic or S-2 Test when he was coming into the NFL.....hell, he might've been the first player TO ever pop a negative score b/c he didn't even get his name right. Four SB Rings does elevate one's intelligence level, even if the books say otherwise.
Might as well pick him up, so the team can be what it was 4 yes ago.So the Nuk talk is picking up steam.
I admit I was mad he wanted to leave in the first place, but I understand if he had a personality conflict issue.
He would be a strong asset so I am on board.
Your thoughts?
Show us where Stroud scored a 12.I know a 12 is awful..
One of O'Brien's biggest problems with Hopkins was him missing practice. He always made the game though. I'm not sure that is the role model you want for the Texans young receivers.I think he has a lot of experience to offer our young bucks.
The only one with that type of data is the creator and his team. Maybe a few teams, agents and the players. I have not seen anyone post those type of results. That dude is going off of what he read on here. And even the people who posted it can’t generate that particular data.You keep touting scores, but won't show them. No evidence.
You know what, I think I really like Jimmy Ward.This was one of the greatest NFL player interviews you'll ever hear!
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Local fans are familiar with the Gary Kubiak offense many years ago and the Kyle Shanahan running the offense. What are the main differences or similarities between the offense that they used to run and what you're running now?[Transcript]
Head Coach DeMeco Ryans
On gun violence and wearing the orange shirts?
“We just have to bring awareness to it and understand the severity of the situation where a lot of kids unfortunately are losing their lives to something that's senseless, and we just want to make sure we're supporting it and getting out in front of it, and it means a lot to us as an organization. As I told our players this morning, it's bigger than just being great football players. I want our guys to understand that we're more than just players. We're also great men, great leaders in our communities, and our guys are in support of it, and I'm proud of the way they represented from last year, seeing it from afar, all the way up until now.”
On what he has seen from WR Jared Wayne so far?
“Jared, he's doing a good job, as well. All the guys are working really hard, working really well with what they've been doing. They've been adapting to what we ask them to do. They've been improving, and they're competing each day, and Jesse is another young guy that we think has some promise to him. He's doing a good job. He just has to continue just like everybody else, just continue to be consistent, continue to try to improve daily. That's all we're looking for out of all our guys right now.”
Can you talk about the practices y'all have set up and the significance of them?
“Yeah, excited to go against the Dolphins here ahead of our preseason game, the second week of preseason. I think we can get a lot out of joint practices, especially a team as good as Miami, a playoff team, a team that has a ton of playmakers offensively and a really good defense, as well. It's a good opportunity for our offense to go against a different defensive structure. They're more of a three-down front where we're primarily a four-down front. So it's a chance for our offense to get different looks, and it's also a chance for us defensively to get different looks from different players and compete at a high level. The Saints, as well, it's our neighbor close by, so it'll be fun to go down and compete against the Saints. Again, it's just different offense, different defensive structures, different philosophies there, so it's just good. As much as we can go against other people and not beat up on each other too much, it's a good opportunity for us to go against them. Dennis [Allen] and Mike [McDaniel], two guys I respect really well in this league, have done a great job leading their teams, and so I'm excited to go to work with those guys.”
As a defensive player and coach your entire career, now that you're a head coach, is it any different for you to be involved with the offensive side of the ball, especially when you're out there?
“It's a little different, but it's funny, having a conversation before practice with some of the quarterbacks, and C.J is like, ‘is it only a good day if the defense does well’, and I said, ‘no, man, it's a great day when the offense is doing well and we're putting up points.’ We're all in this thing together. It's fun being able to work both sides, being able to coach up and help the quarterbacks, help the offense, and also help the defenses just seeing it all come together. Just for me in this position, it's a role of service, and I'm just in position to help out either side of the ball as much as I can.”
You talked about the fact that you want to teach education. Benchmark wise, where do you think you are with the team and their progress if you had to give a grade at this point?
“A+. We're doing great. A+. We're right on track. We're doing great.”
With the joint practices, you've got a lot of young rookies, too. Was that part of the thought process of getting them multiple practices against players and teams?
“The thought process behind joint practices just as a team, I think it's great when you can just go against something different, see different plays. When you go against each other in training camp, you kind of get used to you know what plays the offense is running, you know the defenses that you're going to see. So when you can break up that monotony in camp and go against someone else and get different looks, get different players to go against, it just helps you as a player to expand as a player, become a better player going against different. You may have different tails, different techniques that you have to use versus these guys. It's just good competition all the way across the board going against another team. Doesn't really matter, young players, older players, it really doesn't matter. I think it's just good collectively as a team when you can go out and compete against someone else.
Talk about the orange shirts and the reason behind it. What kind of got you to that point?
“Yeah, I think personally for me. I've lost a cousin to gun violence, and unfortunately like a week ago another cousin of mine was shot, innocent bystander. So for me, it is personal, because it's near and dear to my heart because I've lost family. So it is touching, and it does hit home to me, as well as to those in Uvalde, as well. I think it also hits home when you have -- for me, I have three young kids. So when you send your kids off to school and you have to even have that thought in the back of my mind that man, ‘are my kids going to be safe, am I going to see them’, it's not the mindset you want to have when you're dropping your kids off at school. For all of us, it's something we shouldn't have to worry about, it's something we shouldn't have to discuss, but it's here. We want to make sure we bring awareness to it because it is a real issue that hits home for a lot of people.”
Defensive Coordinator Matt Burke
On working with Head Coach DeMeco Ryans?
“Obviously now we're working through that process from the off-season. Again, I just keep reiterating, it's invaluable for me to have him around, and it's been really collaborative. Again, just having sort of been in similar schemes but kind of bringing them together, obviously out there, you guys were out there a little bit today, just being able to kind of lean on him for me, too, just in between periods, sidle up to him and talk about what he saw or some things I saw, things I'd like to change. It's been awesome for me to have that resource as we go through this installation and growth period here. Man, it's been cool – again, I didn't have a lot of personal history with DeMeco, so building that relationship as we go through this and obviously spending some long hours in the office trying to get up to speed has been really cool. I've really enjoyed it. It's been a collaborative process so far, so hopefully we just keep that going.”
You had a chance to watch CB Derek Stingley Jr. on film. This year when you're watching him at practice, he's added on some weight. Have you seen any difference in his fluidity, hip movement?
“No, I haven't, and I'll be honest with you, I don't really look at the weight stuff much right now. A lot of those guys are heavy or fluctuating, working into it. That's part of what this off-season program is. Sting has been able to do everything we've asked him to do. Again, another sort of position we're playing some different coverages and some different techniques than he played last year, and he's been good fitting into that stuff. I'm happy where he is, where he's been working.”
Describe to the fan base what your scheme is like. A lot of fans are just now starting to pay attention?
We're going to base out of a four-down front, and I would just say if you wanted to do the whole pick one word, it would be attack. We play our defensive line in a penetrating style, try to edge them up, play nine techniques, those sort of things to cause disruptions. Our goal is to be able to affect plays with our front by the style that they play, the attack mode they play in and penetrate and disruption and reset the line of scrimmage and those sorts of things. I would say if you just wanted to bottle it up, that would be the main thing. Again, the more that you can pressure a quarterback with four and not have to commit other resources to doing that, that helps kind of protect your coverage a little bit so you can play multiple coverages and change that element up if you can affect the quarterback and the offense with your front. That's kind of the general approach and philosophy that I'd say we're taking.”
On having safeties who are willing to play multiple positions?
“Yeah, absolutely. I think obviously both those guys, and I would just say in general in the league, I think there's a trend towards more multidimensional players because they're going to be put in different spots and because offenses have running backs that can do a lot of different things and tight ends that can flex out and do all sorts of stuff. To have the ability to have some safeties that can match up with those different type of body types or different type of weapons on offense and then from, I guess, like a disguise standpoint where we don't have to flip certain guys or match corners over or do some of those things that if this progresses that we can kind of keep those guys if we feel comfortable enough with say Jimmie [Ward] and Jalen [Pitre] and guys like that, being able to sort of match up whatever comes to our side. That's a nice piece for us because we can start sort of using -- our looks and hopefully they all stay the same; we're not giving away certain things by having guys travel. Again, those guys are working through everything we're asking them to do. It's been great. That's a good room. But yeah, that'll be hopefully a nice piece for us.”
Can you talk about your first impressions of S Jalen Pitre?
“Yeah, so whatever superlative you want. Great -- literally, I'm saying he's great. Doesn't say much in the meeting rooms and stuff from that point of view, but man, is super communicative on the field. I would just say DeMeco has a team meeting pretty much every morning, kind of recapping some of the stuff that happened from the day before, and I would say Jalen sort of finishing and effort shows up on that tape probably as much as anybody. I'm not going to discount anybody else, but just the way he approaches finishing every play in practice, being in good football position. Again, as a deep safety sometimes runs in practice kind of squirt through. We want our offensive guys finishing downfield, but Jalen is always there like getting to a hip, finishing in good position. So just to see him train those habits consistently like that is just really cool. I think that's what you guys saw obviously on the field last year, just like the fruits of those labors. Like he practices with intent and he's very deliberate in everything he does, so I think that's what kind of translates.”
You mentioned that Stingley will work through a lot of multiple coverages. What about his play allows you to do other things with the rest of the defense?
“Yeah, he's just obviously -- hopefully he's a corner that we feel good about and whatever coverage matchups that we get to. Again, whatever that -- whether we get to the point where we feel good about isolating him or not, that's obviously stuff down the road that we'll get to. Right now, we're just kind of playing our base techniques and trying to get him right, so we haven't really got into matching guys or flipping dudes or any of that type of thing. Hopefully, again, we're just asking Sting to keep progressing and getting better at what we're asking him to do right now, and then I think those types of decisions are more made as we get closer to things.”
On Jimmie Ward knowing this defense so well?
“Yeah, I think very good. He's been great in that room with, again, with a guy like Jalen, obviously working with him. You know, like I said, working with Jalen and kind of helping that growth along, the whole back end, it's great. Obviously just a lot of the guys or some of the guys that we targeted to bring in from Jimmie and some of the guys on D-line that have a history in the system and familiarity, it just helps almost just keep the messaging going obviously in the locker room and those sorts of things. Jimmie has been great, and he looks like he's about 25 right now out there, so that's been cool, too.”
I know we're very early in the process from a defensive standpoint, but what have you seen on the offensive side of the ball?
I'll tell you one story, honestly. We did a two-minute drive at the end of practice sometime last week, and he threw into kind of a coverage we hadn't shown. It was the first day we put the coverage in, and he threw in, and kind of probably was a throw he probably wanted back, I'll just say it that way. The first thing he did when I was walking off the field was he grabbed me, said literally, ‘Coach Burke.’ And he spent about 10 minutes walking in off the field asking me about the coverage and just sort of what he saw and how we kind of set it up and talked through that. So I think, just again, his deliberateness and intent to try to get better, and like he's literally grabbing everybody he can on the field. All those guys, Davis [Mills] and Case [Keenum] and those guys, like during stretch lines I go hang out and talk to them a little bit about some of the stuff we're doing and the periods and just trying to get that back and forth. So he's been very sort of intentional about learning and just learning defense, too, like what did you call there, what was that coverage or what did you do here. I respect that from him.
Working with DeMeco, how has he organized teaching, like organized what you're going to teach and then bringing it to the players? How have you seen how you've approached that?
“Yeah, would say he's a very sort of specific to big. In phase 1, we actually started phase 1 with a lot of almost individualized -- we took every player said this is what you can improve, just as an individual, a technique or something in your game that you can improve and work on through this first phase. Then when we got into sort of the second half of that in phase 2, it was very much like techniques, like it wasn't -- we didn't really even get to big picture coverage stuff. We were like, everyone is going to learn this technique, then we're going to learn this technique, we're going to do these drills. So he went from very specific to like kind of group settings to now obviously team settings and putting it all together where hopefully the foundation of you're playing this technique and this coverage, so it's not necessarily knowing the whole coverage. They do know the whole coverage, but you've learned it from this technique up essentially, so you kind of always have that foundation. So he's really good. It's been cool, like he's done a really good job of wanting to build a foundational aspect to what we do and understand the whys and sort of the intricacies, and we had that time coming through phase 1 and phase 2 to now it's like we're all together, we're calling the whole coverage, but within it those elements, that technique you've practiced since day one, and we talked about that technique and you're doing this and here's how it all meshes together. So he kind of went from specific to big picture, and it's been a cool process, I think, for those guys to go through.”
Offensive Coordinator Bobby Slowik
“It was really exciting, really all the rookies in general came in from the get-go with a mindset of they were going to attack this thing. I mean, they've all been mentally in the classroom, they've been getting after it as far as putting the time in. They came to work. They've been buying in to what we're telling them to do on the field. It's similar to what Burke had just said when he was talking about the overall philosophy. Everything we do really as a football team starts from minutiae and grows up into an offensive side of the ball and then from there into a team. There's a lot of fundamentals and techniques that go along with that at every position, so quarterback, receiver, [running] back, all the way across the offense, and they've all really came in and attacked it as a group, which is probably one of the coolest things to see with C.J is it's not just him alone. They're all doing it together. He's been awesome. He's been putting the work in. They've all been coming in for some extra work and doing stuff on their own when they're away from here. They've been doing great.”
In teaching C.J. [Stroud] the offense and building it first, did you have an idea of what you wanted to build with him, and talk about that process of building and also teaching him and how have you approached that?
“Yeah, I think every player you have before you're really empowered to teach or coach them, I think you have to have a vision for what they're going to do and who they are and what's going to make them the best they can be. So you kind of start there. Then you branch off into, okay, we need to attack this, this is your strength. Let's make sure we emphasize this. We struggled a little bit with this aspect, let's try to work on this to get that improved so that the totality of what we do then fits into what the guys around us are doing, which then fits into the offense. So it's kind of been the same for everybody in that regard, C.J. included.”
The majority of the people you're worked with have dealt with a young quarterback. Obviously I'm guessing you still talk to some of the guys in San Fran. What have you learned that you can apply teaching C.J. the quarterback position?
“Yeah, I've been fortunate in that, like you said, I have a lot of connections and people that I'm friends with that I know across the NFL that have been through this process and I'm also fortunate that I went through it really the last two years with Trey and with Brock in a different way, and just getting like the different ways and the different styles guys play, guys learn, they put things together, and the process they have to go through to get to where you envision them getting to and the patience that's required when you do that, while at the same time like the urgency that's required when you do that. It's always a balancing act. Being able to bounce ideas off guys or have guys tell you their experiences and what they went through and what to watch out for, which may or may not apply to the situation you're going through, but it's always beneficial when you have people around you that have been through it.”
Early on in this process, what have you learned about WR Tank [Dell] and WR Xavier [Hutchinson]?
Yeah, again, it's going to sound like a broken record, but the first thing that jumps off about all these guys is just they come in and they're hungry and they are come in ready to work. Tank comes from a very different offense at Houston, very, very productive, efficient, but it's just a different style to what we're really doing here. There's a bit of a learning curve, and when he's out on the field, he doesn't blink. I don't think anyone has noticed how big of a leap it is because he's been on it, and he's been working. Same thing, he's taking what we're telling him as far as coaching, as far as what we see in the fundamentals of route running. He's a pretty natural separator, but to also apply, okay, how does this fit within the offense when I know the quarterback has to look at me at this time, and there's a lot that goes into that for him. It's been hitting the ground running for him. It's been not an issue.
What were the differences that C.J. Stroud had from Ohio State to here? What have you seen?
“Yeah, it's required that he reaches out to learn more for me, so that's happened a lot. But he wants to have command of what's going on, as anyone who's in that position should. They want to feel comfortable in what they're doing, what direction they have to go, what answers to have to have on every play, and every play is a little different. For him, being able to tie things back to other experiences that are the same is kind of what we grind through over and over again, and it's really a lot of, again, our offense and our defense as we do the minutiae, branch out from it, and then at the end of the day we kind of point back to things we've already talked about and said, hey, this is the same as something else you've already done, and that just helps them hone in on specific.”
Local fans are familiar with the Gary Kubiak offense many years ago and the Kyle Shanahan running the offense. What are the main differences or similarities between the offense that they used to run and what you're running now?
“Yeah, I was a youngster back then, but the roots are all there. I still remember watching when I first got the offense in San Francisco, all these Houston Texan cut-ups and Andre and Schaub and David Anderson and all these guys just running the same stuff we're running right now, and the principles and the foundation of what they did is all there, but like everything, it kind of evolves as it goes. Where it's at right now, the core is all the same and probably the edges have branched off maybe a hair, like the league has just changed. There's some different defenses you see. There's some different issues you get. So you find different ways to adjust to that. But again, it's cool because it ties back to the previous question. You just point to something else that they did back then and be like, hey, this is the same as that was, but now we're doing it this way. That was really neat when I first got to throw on some Houston Texan film and see all of them play.”
What have you seen from TE Dalton Schultz and what's the vision for Dalton?
Yeah, he's just a professional. All the vets we've brought in have really helped a lot in bringing their position group along and kind of bringing the young guys with them, showing them what it's like to work, to be a professional as far as what you've got to do every day, mentally, physically, on the field, how you work, how you go about your business, and he's been awesome in that regard. Then you just see a guy who knows how to run routes. He's got a big frame. He knows how to catch. He's fully invested in the run game. He's been doing a great job.
It wouldn't be fair to Coach Burke if I didn't ask you a question about the defensive side of the ball, what you've seen from those guys as far as Derek Stingley and Jalen Pitre?
“Yeah, it's hard. Their secondary makes it hard on our receivers. They make it hard on our quarterback. We've got to be able to get the ball out on time against these guys when you're running routes where we know we can separate because they're not going to give you one, which has been great teaching for our whole crew of quarterbacks as far as knowing where to go with the ball, keeping Pitre in the middle of the field when he's in the middle of the field, just things of that nature. They really strain you. It's been really fun to watch. As we keep going through OTAs and will build training camp, how their defensive system evolves and then all of a sudden it gets really difficult for us to know what they're doing and where they're going to be.”
Talk a little bit about the offensive line, what you're seeing so far?
“Yeah, I think every offense in the NFL, you want to be solid up front, and thankfully we have a group up front that's talented, they have the skill set, they have the mindset, they work, they're invested in what we're doing. They have everything that's needed to be able to perform at a level that we want them to perform at so that everyone can kind of work as a unit. The run game is a huge part of kind of this system and this offense and how everything ties together, and it's a little different from the guys that have been here and what they've done in the past, and they're all in on learning the fundamentals of how that works, and they're bought in on it.”
Special Teams Coordinator Frank Ross
“It's been a good spring so far. OTAs underway and happy with putting the new guys into the schemes. A couple things we're working on for spring is obviously the fundamentals, especially in the phase 2 where there's not necessarily a person across from you but just working your technique, your footwork, your positioning, but then you also get a chance to work trial of new schemes, and that is really starting to put in now. ‘Hey, don't like that, scrap it, we won't work on that’, or double down in training camp and see if that could be applicable to who you're going to try and become or what new players you can promote their talents and just accent those things that we've already kind of used as part of what we think is our kicking game roles here. It's been a good spring so far. Hopefully we can cap it off the next few weeks as we finish out.”
What have you seen from WR Tank Dell and WR Steven Sims, and how close are they into transitioning to also contributing?
“Yeah, obviously we love a laundry list of depth at returners and just generally speaking game-day ball handling ability. Those two guys both are undersized in stature, got good quickness, ability to track it, set up blocks, cut on the move and wiggle in space. Like both their skill sets, and we'll see how many other guys can contribute, as well, whether that's Grayland [Arnold], obviously Des[mond] King has done a great job for us, and he's such a strong runner, Des specifically. Everybody's play style is a little bit different, and then relative to down-and-distance situation, how the roster shakes out when it comes end of preseason down the road here. We'll look into all those avenues.” From the film, what have you seen from WR Tank Dell “Yeah, there's a God-given athleticism element, of course, where guys know how to just not spend too much time decelerating or it's just easier for guys to run as a smaller guy. He's got that quickness, that suddenness that hopefully he can translate to when he's out there live with the ball in his hands. Any of those guys who are back there you're looking to make a play, but guys, we all know this, the ball is everything, so we've put the ball on the ground -- I don't know, one is too many in the last couple years. The ball can't be on the ground, so whoever is back there handling it, security is number one. Get the ball back for our offense, start a drive. And then anything past the first down is bonus. When we get a chance to take it, we'll try and do that as many times as possible.”
What are your thoughts on the rules involving kicks?
“Yeah, I like to compete. I like to play every down we can get. When we get a chance to cover a kick, let's go out there with our hair on fire. We get a chance to return it, we want those guys to get shot out of a cannon and go. I got it. I'm 100 percent in favor of player safety, so anything to elongate the existence of the NFL and our game, great, and player safety. I know a lot of guys make a good living playing on special teams, and I don't want the fabric of the game to change, so hopefully we stay within those parameters, and then whatever is out there, whatever the rules are, doesn't matter what game you're playing, you get three points for shooting it from this distance in basketball, everything else is two, free throws are one. Those are the rules, so we'll play within that scheme. If that's going to save time, waving a fair catch, end-of-half situation or you've got to learn how to squib it and get it through, you've got to judge yard mark, what's the average return. That starting field position, you guys have known this, that chart doesn't lie. Every yard means percentage up on opportunity to score on the offensive end or defensive side to defend. We'll play it accordingly. Yeah, I'm still -- I might be kind of younger but not really but still old enough to remember when things were different. We'll adjust as they come forward.”
There's so much that's influential in the game from special teams but also a developmental spot for the team as a whole. With that and potential change, how would you describe the importance of that for the team and where does that go?
“Yeah, you said the word "developmental," and in football you've got to have angular space and awareness. Use the head on a swivel before; that way you don't get ear holed and cracked. So just feeling space, working off of, playing off of a teammate and feeling the block leverage, fighting pressure with pressure, running, blocking, tackling, holding on to the football, entry angles. That's just football. So there's an element of the game that's going to be not compromised, but I would just say, ‘hey, it's a new element we've got to adjust a little bit.’ It might be a little bit more schematically and situational more than anything, but we'll see, and I've got to have exact all the parameters. The rule was tabled and then just changed kind of recently, still tinkering potentially with the amount of players in the setup zone on an onside kick or whatever the case may be. By the time we get back, hopefully we have that in black and white and we'll be ready to play it out accordingly. But yeah, foundationally, developmentally it's an important piece, so hopefully it's staying in the game.”
You gave a corporate answer about the new rule change. Now tell us how you really feel. “You don't like the corporate answer?
Just keep playing football, man. Keep just playing football. Let's keep football tough. Does that work?
On players excitement and willingness to help out on special teams?
“Yeah, obviously everybody wants to be out there, and guys are working in certain drills and not just relative to load management or whatever the case may be. Obviously hopefully the culture is man, anytime you're in a line for receiver drills, I want to be at the front of the line, or line for the running back drills, I want to be at the front of the line. Hopefully that's the same in the kicking game and just guys are hungry to get any single rep they can. At our level, honestly, it's basically like saying you can't run kickoff after kickoff after kickoff or -- it's too taxing. Guys want those reps at high effort. So when we do the drill work, you want guys to get good quality reps, and for people willing to step up if we're short on a number count or something like that, that's great, just showing that, ‘hey, look, we got these important and invaluable reps. It might be an OTA day, but we've got to get that rep in’ Hopefully everybody has that kind of mentality.”
So, you trust a company you've never heard of until a month ago? BTW, what is the name of this trustworthy company?I trust the people who designed the test, so I don't need to know exact scores. I know a 12 is awful..
You know what, I think I really like Jimmy Ward.
He reminds me of that comedian on TV who does all of the commercials: he's funny as hell, they are both funny as hell.
Yea that guy, thanks C-bombed !Kevin Hart...
You know how I look at the present validity state of the S2. But I'm sure that if Stroud had scored a 95 percentile, you and many others would be hyping up its predictive value. It's only natural human nature. In the end, it will be up to Stroud to prove his true value.All this hoopla over a test no one knows anything about. It's silly at best until scores are presented and years of on the field play can validate.
Over the years, we've had our collection of high dollar players with that same problem.One of O'Brien's biggest problems with Hopkins was him missing practice. He always made the game though. I'm not sure that is the role model you want for the Texans young receivers.
LmboSo, you trust a company you've never heard of until a month ago? BTW, what is the name of this trustworthy company?
He just got released for missing practices and attitude... you wanting him to teach this young team? NO THANKS! He's a great WR but is nit a great person imoI'm all aboard the Hopkins train, but only within certain parameters. I'd probably sit tight, let the market dictate, and see if you can get involved. If someone wants to overpay, let them. But if the market isn't where Hop wants it, Houston would seem like a great place to resurrect your market price.
But to just say not a fit? Seems weird to me. WR is the worst group on this team. It's got decent depth, but no money guy at the top. Hopkins changes that, and instantly becomes the #1 option for a young, developing QB. He isn't what he was, but he's better than anyone else currently on the team.