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What is Watson's value in a trade?

TexansBull

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Speedy said:
Uh, I haven’t accepted shit. Especially mediocrity. And honestly, I’m not really sure what it is you’re arguing other than you seem to be poo-pooing a team making a trip to a conference title game for some reason, and then slamming fans who would like to see that one time in their lives.

So I’m done. Carry on with whatever.
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We can’t disagree? You can have your opinion. I have mine.

I respect everyone’s right not to agree with me and be wrong.

Or is this a echo chamber? A hive mind?
 
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powda

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TexansBull said:
That doesn’t look typical that a virus is found bodily fluids such as semen? Would you agree?

Also - if a person gets the vaccine does that mean they are injecting themselves with something that could cause ED?

I obviously don’t understand viruses or vaccines.
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Lmao
 
CloakNNNdagger

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TexansBull said:
That doesn’t look typical that a virus is found bodily fluids such as semen? Would you agree?

Also - if a person gets the vaccine does that mean they are injecting themselves with something that could cause ED?

I obviously don’t understand viruses or vaccines.
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Don't feel badly. Very few do. It's a very complicated subject.........too complicated to explain here in detail. But let me just say that many viruses have been found in semen. As to your ED question, it is highly unlikely that one would get ED from the vaccine, unless there was a reaction to the vaccine, which would trigger an auto-immune response targeting the blood vessels, adrenals or testes.

Here is an article that may shed some liight.

Human semen can host up to 27 different viruses
By Karl GruberSep. 20, 2017 , 8:00 AM

When scientists discovered that the Zika virus can survive in semen for up to 6 months, people exposed to the disease—especially those hoping to have children—were horrified. It’s now known that the virus can be sexually transmitted up to 41 days. Now, a new meta-analysis has found that 26 other viruses can also live in human semen and go on to infect the bloodstream. Those include the viruses that cause Ebola, HIV, hepatitis B, and herpes. After reviewing more than 3800 scientific publications, the authors also found evidence that at least 11 viruses can live in the testes, including those that cause influenza, dengue, and severe acute respiratory syndrome. These viruses could potentially be found in semen, too, the authors say. Though not all 27 viruses are capable of person-to-person transmission, they can have other serious
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steelbtexan

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CloakNNNdagger said:
Don't feel badly. Very few do. It's a very complicated subject.........too complicated to explain here in detail. But let me just say that many viruses have been found in semen. As to your ED question, it is highly unlikely that one would get ED from the vaccine, unless there was a reaction to the vaccine, which would trigger an auto-immune response targeting the blood vessels, adrenals or testes.

Here is an article that may shed some liight.

Human semen can host up to 27 different viruses
By Karl GruberSep. 20, 2017 , 8:00 AM

When scientists discovered that the Zika virus can survive in semen for up to 6 months, people exposed to the disease—especially those hoping to have children—were horrified. It’s now known that the virus can be sexually transmitted up to 41 days. Now, a new meta-analysis has found that 26 other viruses can also live in human semen and go on to infect the bloodstream. Those include the viruses that cause Ebola, HIV, hepatitis B, and herpes. After reviewing more than 3800 scientific publications, the authors also found evidence that at least 11 viruses can live in the testes, including those that cause influenza, dengue, and severe acute respiratory syndrome. These viruses could potentially be found in semen, too, the authors say. Though not all 27 viruses are capable of person-to-person transmission, they can have other serious
THE REST OF THE STORY
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Great knowledge

That poor woman who was allegedly forced to suck DW4's we we needs to read this post.
 
TexansBull

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CloakNNNdagger said:
Don't feel badly. Very few do. It's a very complicated subject.........too complicated to explain here in detail. But let me just say that many viruses have been found in semen. As to your ED question, it is highly unlikely that one would get ED from the vaccine, unless there was a reaction to the vaccine, which would trigger an auto-immune response targeting the blood vessels, adrenals or testes.

Here is an article that may shed some liight.

Human semen can host up to 27 different viruses
By Karl GruberSep. 20, 2017 , 8:00 AM

When scientists discovered that the Zika virus can survive in semen for up to 6 months, people exposed to the disease—especially those hoping to have children—were horrified. It’s now known that the virus can be sexually transmitted up to 41 days. Now, a new meta-analysis has found that 26 other viruses can also live in human semen and go on to infect the bloodstream. Those include the viruses that cause Ebola, HIV, hepatitis B, and herpes. After reviewing more than 3800 scientific publications, the authors also found evidence that at least 11 viruses can live in the testes, including those that cause influenza, dengue, and severe acute respiratory syndrome. These viruses could potentially be found in semen, too, the authors say. Though not all 27 viruses are capable of person-to-person transmission, they can have other serious
THE REST OF THE STORY
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From the article:

“Some of these viruses can even cause mutations in the DNA of sperm, which could then fertilize an egg and pass along the virus-induced mutations to future generations.”

That’s rather interesting.
 
KoolAid Sipper

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Texian said:
Here is why you wait until the start of the new league year 2022 before you trade Watson. Take Philly for example, if you trade Watson before the season starts in 2021 the Eagles with Watson could win 10 - 12 games and be picking somewhere in the 20s in the 2022 draft. If you trade Watson after the season the Eagles may end up with 4 wins and be picking in the Top 10.
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Truth, maximize the return even if it costs you $$$ and his talent alone should warrant that. People will be forgiving of his current fiasco if he comes back clean of the serious allegations. This should be the protocol no matter which team they trade him to. I'm hoping for a deal to the Lions if the Lions can somehow offload Jared Goff on someone. They have multiple 1sts in 2022 and 2023.
 
badboy

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It seems Miami is concerned with Tua's 5 INTs ( In the rain but with 7 on 7 drills and no pass rush). The info I am receiving is that they may be Interested again in Watson at some point.
 
Speedy

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badboy said:
It seems Miami is concerned with Tua's 5 INTs ( In the rain but with 7 on 7 drills and no pass rush). The info I am receiving is that they may be Interested again in Watson at some point.
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So now we’re judging players for pushing things in shorts and t-shirts?
 
badboy

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Speedy said:
So now we’re judging players for pushing things in shorts and t-shirts?
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The issue is 5 interceptions and yes in shorts and t-shirt. My understanding is Miami was all in on DW prior to news. They were still hopefull in the draft: WR, EDGE, Safety and OT all before round 3. 2 year pro bowler Xavien Howard at corner thinking a trade could still happen. They pumped up Tag and are struggling to do so now.

I think as the Watson spectacle went Nova those in Miami were shocked. The only team then getting press at having chance against Dolphins for DW was Jets. We know how that went. I also still believe that Jets wanted DW over Wilson. I cannot prove it but I still think that Jets wanted Laremy Tunsil as part of the Watson trade. Instead they ended up going with Tucker in a trade up to 14.
 
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badboy said:
It seems Miami is concerned with Tua's 5 INTs ( In the rain but with 7 on 7 drills and no pass rush). The info I am receiving is that they may be Interested again in Watson at some point.
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When/if the Pervert gets out of prison, that's when the question of his trade value should be asked.

After reading through 13 complaints I hope his azz goes to jail for at least 40 yrs and he's traded to the Mean Mechine for a female dog. Society needs rid itself of POS like this Pervert. There's a pttern to his perversions and yes, my mind is made up and It's not going to be changed. It baffles me how anybody could read what that pervert did and also was confirmed by a lady in the SI article who chose to not file a complaint, but still think there's a chance this Pervert is innocent.

I know there are a few of us on this MB that dont give a crap if they get anything in trade for the Pervert, they just want to see the Pervert do major time and never play another down of football in the NFL. Then and only then would justice be served. IMHO
 
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I understand how you feel, but I'm trying to find a different word for Watson..

A pervert doesn't fit what he's being accused of.. A pervert is someone who might sniff/steal "stuff", or set up hidden cameras.. Like record you through a keyhole while you're doing Pilates in your underwear. 🤔 She got paid 55 million for that?

What Watson is being accused of isn't just actions of a weirdo pervert.. its definitely much worse than that.
 
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Dejaview

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Carr Bombed said:
I understand how you feel, but I'm trying to find a different word for Watson..

A pervert doesn't fit what he's being accused of.. A pervert is someone who might sniff/steal "stuff", or set up hidden cameras.. Like record you through a keyhole while you're doing Pilates in your underwear. 🤔 She got paid 55 million for that?

What Watson is being accused of isn't just actions of a weirdo pervert.. its definitely much worse than that.
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Yep. We aren’t talking glory hole stuff here.
 
badboy

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Seems like trade rumors are getting back to pre-claim fever. Sure some is one person repeating another repeating a third. Wishful thinking?
Maybe.
 
Number19

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If a trade is going to be made, it will likely happen this week or next at the latest; so Watson will have the full benefit of training camp with his new team.

I don't think the Texans can get full value with a trade at this time. It's essentially a one year deal. 2022 is a complete crap shoot as far as his being available to play. So how much would a team gamble on his future availability? How little would the Texans accept just to be rid of him?

I think the team, players and coaches, would accept, if not fully support, Watson playing this season.

Casserio, I think, could see the value in Watson playing, both in terms of possibly challenging for the division and in Watson increasing his trade value with a sucessful season.

Easterby is someone I know nothing about, just what I read on this forum. He may be opposed to having Watson play.

I think it will come down to Janice McNair. If there is agreement that Watson will be traded in the future, can she be persuaded to keep Watson on the team, this season?

It comes down to a choice between a business/football decision, or a moral decision.
 
badboy

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Number19 said:
If a trade is going to be made, it will likely happen this week or next at the latest; so Watson will have the full benefit of training camp with his new team.

I don't think the Texans can get full value with a trade at this time. It's essentially a one year deal. 2022 is a complete crap shoot as far as his being available to play. So how much would a team gamble on his future availability? How little would the Texans accept just to be rid of him?

I think the team, players and coaches, would accept, if not fully support, Watson playing this season.

Casserio, I think, could see the value in Watson playing, both in terms of possibly challenging for the division and in Watson increasing his trade value with a sucessful season.

Easterby is someone I know nothing about, just what I read on this forum. He may be opposed to having Watson play.

I think it will come down to Janice McNair. If there is agreement that Watson will be traded in the future, can she be persuaded to keep Watson on the team, this season?

It comes down to a choice between a business/football decision, or a moral decision.
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All very good questions. I don't see why a trade could not be made anytime between tomorrow and the 2022 draft. Any interested team would be Trading for the full package with the optimism that they would get much more than just one year from d w. Some of us seem to forget that there was talk of Trades up to the 2021 draft and that was after some of the accusations had already came to light. Miami for one during their trades in round one seemed to be doing so with hopes of trading for Watson.

Denver bypassed QB to select Surtain a huge need for...Houston. Then selected Jevonte Williams another huge priority at RB for Texans. Then Meinerz whom several here wanted. Yes all of that is conjecture but I'm sure could be true.
I agree that the players and the head coach as well as offensive coordinator would readily accept Watson on the playing field as their starting quarterback. He gives them the best shot for wins.

I agree with you on Caserio but doubt Easter be still has the ear of the McNairs.

I would hope that Janice McNair sees the error that she committed in trading DeAndre Hopkins. I think that Nick and hopefully Cal could explain to Mama McNair that a huge package for someone she wants to get rid of would be a good thing for her team and also help her in the PR department after the DHop fiasco.
 
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Number19 said:
If a trade is going to be made, it will likely happen this week or next at the latest; so Watson will have the full benefit of training camp with his new team.

I don't think the Texans can get full value with a trade at this time. It's essentially a one year deal. 2022 is a complete crap shoot as far as his being available to play. So how much would a team gamble on his future availability? How little would the Texans accept just to be rid of him?

I think the team, players and coaches, would accept, if not fully support, Watson playing this season.

Casserio, I think, could see the value in Watson playing, both in terms of possibly challenging for the division and in Watson increasing his trade value with a sucessful season.

Easterby is someone I know nothing about, just what I read on this forum. He may be opposed to having Watson play.

I think it will come down to Janice McNair. If there is agreement that Watson will be traded in the future, can she be persuaded to keep Watson on the team, this season?

It comes down to a choice between a business/football decision, or a moral decision.
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Like I said in another thread, if this happens I'm done with the McNair's and the Texans org. I'm gonna miss you guys.
 
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badboy said:
All very good questions. I don't see why a trade could not be made anytime between tomorrow and the 2022 draft. Any interested team would be Trading for the full package with the optimism that they would get much more than just one year from d w. Some of us seem to forget that there was talk of Trades up to the 2021 draft and that was after some of the accusations had already came to light. Miami for one during their trades in round one seemed to be doing so with hopes of trading for Watson.

Denver bypassed QB to select Surtain a huge need for...Houston. Then selected Jevonte Williams another huge priority at RB for Texans. Then Meinerz whom several here wanted. Yes all of that is conjecture but I'm sure could be true.
I agree that the players and the head coach as well as offensive coordinator would readily accept Watson on the playing field as their starting quarterback. He gives them the best shot for wins.

I agree with you on Caserio but doubt Easter be still has the ear of the McNairs.

I would hope that Janice McNair sees the error that she committed in trading DeAndre Hopkins. I think that Nick and hopefully Cal could explain to Mama McNair that a huge package for someone she wants to get rid of would be a good thing for her team and also help her in the PR department after the DHop fiasco.
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Taking out the trash was a necessary evil.

I see which side of the business decision/moral decision debate you stand.
 
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steelbtexan said:
Taking out the trash was a necessary evil.

I see which side of the business decision/moral decision debate you stand.
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If the moral decision wins out, then the Texans have only 3 choices. The first would be to just cut Watson outright. The second would be for the Texans, not the NFL, to put Watson on paid leave. The third would be to bring Watson's trade value down to a point where a team would be willing to assume all risks; maybe as low as a single first round pick or maybe a swap of players.

I'm predicting Watson will be on the field Wednesday. Beyond that, I'm not prepared to guess.
 
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badboy said:
which is what was reportedly what Houston had been interested in originally. I remember John McClain had said two ones+ two 2s and at least two young foundational type players.
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Please let this happen quickly. I would rather do business with PHILLY as those picks will probably be higher than MIA’s and they have 3 1’s. They can keep the 1st they get from INDY if Wentz pans out. DET has 2, but that other 1st is probably going to be at the tail end too.
What players do you think MIA or PHIL would part ways with?
 
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Jack Burton said:
Please let this happen quickly. I would rather do business with PHILLY as those picks will probably be higher than MIA’s and they have 3 1’s. They can keep the 1st they get from INDY if Wentz pans out. DET has 2, but that other 1st is probably going to be at the tail end too.
What players do you think MIA or PHIL would part ways with?
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see my thread 2022 draft and trades for Denver and Eagles comments. I will add players for a Watson to Eagles soon.
 
Texansballer74

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Jack Burton said:
Please let this happen quickly. I would rather do business with PHILLY as those picks will probably be higher than MIA’s and they have 3 1’s. They can keep the 1st they get from INDY if Wentz pans out. DET has 2, but that other 1st is probably going to be at the tail end too.
What players do you think MIA or PHIL would part ways with?
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It’s not going to happen unfortunately with 10 criminal cases. Gotta get that cleaned up now or he’s stuck here.
 
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badboy said:
before round 3. 2 year pro bowler Xavien Howard at corner thinking a trade could still happen.
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Texans have expressed some interest in Howard.

And with Tua and Jalen Hurts both looking absolutely pitiful right now, there is motivation for a trade fairly soon. Limiting factor is Watson has indicated he would veto anything other than Miami, which ties Nick's hands because he wouldn't have a bidding war. We'll see how it plays out.
 
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With all this going on I would be happy with one first round pick, I can’t imagine a team giving much more than that.


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badboy

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CloakNNNdagger said:
Texans have expressed some interest in Howard.

And with Tua and Jalen Hurts both looking absolutely pitiful right now, there is motivation for a trade fairly soon. Limiting factor is Watson has indicated he would veto anything other than Miami, which ties Nick's hands because he wouldn't have a bidding war. We'll see how it plays out.
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yes everything coming out of camp says Tua is extremely inaccurate making an awesome play then missing. TBF, receivers are dropping some catchable balls. X is a 2 time pro bowler with incredible number of interceptions over his 2 of 3 last years with 2019 playing only five games; 20 passes defended with 10 INTs last season.

His cap hit only avg ~ $12 m next four years with Dolphins savings in 2021 of ~ 12 m would pay DW's salary.

It seems that Watson bringing up Denver hurts his 'Miami only' stance. Your thoughts?
 
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pirbroke said:
With all this going on I would be happy with one first round pick, I can’t imagine a team giving much more than that.


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why? There is history of teams keeping or going after players with 'issues'. Like him or not Watson had great stats last season and when teams like Dolphins, Eagles, Giants look at their QB they may focus on DW. Jets are having issues signing 1.2 Zach Wilson over voidable years of his rookie contract. There was 'talk' pre-draft that DW could go to NY to build his brand and I could see him thinking that way now despite charges.
 
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Texansballer74 said:
It’s not going to happen unfortunately with 10 criminal cases. Gotta get that cleaned up now or he’s stuck here.
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Then why all the talk about Texans 'now being interested in trading Watson"? The NFL message about no restrictions and DW not being placed on CEL to me and others (all those saying he looks to be tradeable now) is a possible indicator that he will be traded before criminal resolved.
 
Speedy

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badboy said:
Then why all the talk about Texans 'now being interested in trading Watson"? The NFL message about no restrictions and DW not being placed on CEL to me and others (all those saying he looks to be tradeable now) is a possible indicator that he will be traded before criminal resolved.
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You assume talk is fact. As far as I can tell Caserio hasn’t answered one single question he’s been asked since he’s been here. So whatever “talk” there is would seem to be nothing but media speculation, pretty much no different than what goes on here.
 
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