Signing Tyrod Taylor is historically the first sign of a rebuild.
What is Laremy Tunsil's worth in a trade?
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Texansballer74
Hall of Fame
No it’s not lol
OptimisticTexan
2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
Tyrod Taylor has the talent but his timing has been bad based on where he's played. Maybe the new Texans offense will play into his strengths. First, this new offense is going to run and run some more based on the recent moves. Taylor will be asked to be a safe game manager who can use his legs to give defenses fits. There is a nice group receivers who just might surprise with this new attack.
I believe that injuries have been the toughest thing for Taylor's career. I hope he has a healthy and productive season as the Texans new QB1. A solid running game could go a long way in helping him see a successful 2021.
I believe that injuries have been the toughest thing for Taylor's career. I hope he has a healthy and productive season as the Texans new QB1. A solid running game could go a long way in helping him see a successful 2021.
Or the drafting of a young QB.
He ran what I suspect to be a version of Culley's offense in Baltimore.
michaelm
vox nihili
Interestingly, Taylor has never had a losing season record as a starter.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
He went 7-8 in 15 starts in 2016, but other than that, never.
Taylor's record is about to take a beating. To no fault of his own.
Not necessarily.
The Chiefs say otherwise.
michaelm
vox nihili
Damn i must have had a case of selective dyslexia. I looked at his season records a couple of times and for whatever reason it registered 8-7 for that season.
badboy
Hall of Fame
If his record is the only thing that takes a beating he should be grateful.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I have that same thing as I will look at a salad right next to a ribeye and eat the ribeye every time. Selective dyslexia..
welsh texan
All Pro
Dolphins just traded back from 1-3 and to 1-12 and then back up to 1-6 and now have turned Tunsil into 4 1st rounders.
Texian
Hall of Fame
This is what happens when you’ve got a top 5 pick & not desperately seeking a QB. Unfortunately we’ve never been in such a situation. Worse. When he had the #1 overall pick there weren’t any decent QBs to choose from.
mussop
Hall of Fame
But everyone knows trading Watson is almost a guarantee. If Watson is gone why hold on to Tunsil? We should of started the rebuild months ago with sending Watson to the jets and Tunsil with whoever gave the best offer. It will take several years no matter what. Why didn’t we didn’t start now is beyond me.
May have something to do with some legal matters the young man is dealing with.
I believe the Texans knew there was an issue, but didn't know about 20+ plantiffs. With that in mind they were probably thinking Watson will learn who was really supportive of his situation & would eventually come back into the fold.
Still... I think trading Tunsil is a bad idea. We were paying D.Brown, Hopkins, Jj, & a bunch of other players before we had Watson.
Let Tunsil protect our new QB, build a line, develop his replacement. Dump him in two years when it makes sense & his replacement is ready.
Draft QB.
SeriousShizzle
Waterboy
Tunsil has been a solid so far tbh he false starts but it was no way his fault bob gave up the farm for him.
so we just need to get his service and enjoy till we restructure him or trade him
so we just need to get his service and enjoy till we restructure him or trade him
SeriousShizzle
Waterboy
Bob was as insane. Like our current qb
OptimisticTexan
2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
Think they would accept Tunsil for Becton and a RD1? Let Becton continue his development with the Texans but I think there’s still too much meat on the Tunsil contract for 2021 and 2022. Maybe the Texans decide to keep Tunsil b/c he finally becomes the LT they thought they were getting......due to the new staff’s simple offensive scheme, position coaches, and better talent around him.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Due to Tunsil being a multi-year pro bowler, I would ask for both of the Jets round 1 in 2022 but willing to take the higher. Tunsil's base $9.2 would be assumed by the Jets and Bectons base is 4.2 which we would pay.
LT dead post June 1 is $8 for this season and $16 accelerated to 2022 which is high but his cap for us will be $26 in 2022 and $27 the next year. Tremendous savings to move him this year. In my opinion a good move for both teams.
OptimisticTexan
2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
Didn’t realize this badboy.....I’d move now, with this understanding.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Another point in favor would be Jets have just over 26 million in cap space now and 69 million in 2022. As you know I really like becton yet he is just going into his second year and as you stated needs to continue developing.
Vera-Tucker 6 ft 44 308 would do even better beside LT.
I really don't get the fascination with wanting to move Tunsil.
He's not going anywhere.
He's not going anywhere.
Reality is not for everyone
Dang BB you say the Jets drafted a guard to protect Zack Wilsons blind side ? I'm confused because that sounds like this Wilson kid will be throwing passes into the stands or he can throw one helluva curved forward pass ?
badboy
Hall of Fame
? LT and LG are considered "blindside" of a right handed QB...
Why Jets’ Alijah Vera-Tucker thinks he’ll be a great fit in Mike LaFleur’s offense, as blind-side protector for Zach Wilson
The Jets drafted Alijah Vera-Tucker in Round 1.
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Alijah Vera-Tucker Named 'Best Fit of the 2021 NFL Draft'
PFF believes the New York Jets and Alijah Vera-Tucker make for a great pairing.
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? LT and LG are considered "blindside" of a right handed QB...
Sorry man I was being a smart azz.Why Jets’ Alijah Vera-Tucker thinks he’ll be a great fit in Mike LaFleur’s offense, as blind-side protector for Zach Wilson
The Jets drafted Alijah Vera-Tucker in Round 1.
Alijah Vera-Tucker Named 'Best Fit of the 2021 NFL Draft'
PFF believes the New York Jets and Alijah Vera-Tucker make for a great pairing.
Texansphan
All Pro
I hope we don't trade Tunsil at all.
He is our starting Left tackle and our offense is gonna need him.
He is our starting Left tackle and our offense is gonna need him.
badboy
Hall of Fame
You didn't miss where I said that we would get jets left tackle Mekhi becton correct? With these quarterbacks we do not need a two-time pro bowl left tackle and Becton would do just fine.
Laramie's cap hit this year is 9.3 million but do you want to pay him 26 and 1/2 million for 2022 and 2023 each? I don't. His 2021 base of one million is the hook to reel in a big fish. It will be much harder to trade him after 2021 . For those here who are always trumpeting how we need to get better contracts and dump cap I don't understand keeping around his contract especially if there is a alternative like Becton.
powda
Guard your tongue before it digs your grave.
Is Becton up for grabs?
So why would the NYJ want to make this trade?
Nope
Number19
Hall of Fame
Offensive Tackle Rankings: The 32 best OTs entering the 2021 NFL season
By Anthony Treash
May 24, 2021
Continuing our series of 2021 NFL position rankings, we turn our attention to the trenches and evaluate the current crop of offensive tackles. With the help of PFF's advanced database — which is used by all 32 NFL teams — we can easily evaluate the big men trying to protect their quarterbacks and open lanes in the run game.
So, without further ado, let’s dive into our top 32 offensive tackles ahead of the 2021 NFL season. And while there just one rookie appears on the list, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see multiple first-year players rise up by the end of the year, considering it was one of the deepest tackle classes this century.
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Houston Texans offensive tackle Laremy Tunsil (78) against the Kansas City Chiefs in a AFC Divisional Round playoff football game at Arrowhead Stadium. Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports
8. LAREMY TUNSIL, HOUSTON TEXANS
Tunsil has been a standout pass-blocker but a middling run-blocker in every season of his NFL career. He trails only Ronnie Stanley and David Bakhtiari in pass-blocking grade among tackles since coming to Houston in 2019. Considering the sheer number of long-developing plays he has endured as a Texan, that is quite impressive.
On plays where the quarterback gets rid of the ball within three seconds of the snap, Tunsil ranks second among tackles in pressure rate allowed. At the same time, he sits right at the 50th percentile in run-blocking grade at his position over the past couple of years. Tunsil's price tag in his trade to Houston was clearly too high, but his pass-blocking prowess easily makes him a top-10 tackle.
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www.pff.com
By Anthony Treash
May 24, 2021
Continuing our series of 2021 NFL position rankings, we turn our attention to the trenches and evaluate the current crop of offensive tackles. With the help of PFF's advanced database — which is used by all 32 NFL teams — we can easily evaluate the big men trying to protect their quarterbacks and open lanes in the run game.
So, without further ado, let’s dive into our top 32 offensive tackles ahead of the 2021 NFL season. And while there just one rookie appears on the list, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see multiple first-year players rise up by the end of the year, considering it was one of the deepest tackle classes this century.
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8. LAREMY TUNSIL, HOUSTON TEXANS
Tunsil has been a standout pass-blocker but a middling run-blocker in every season of his NFL career. He trails only Ronnie Stanley and David Bakhtiari in pass-blocking grade among tackles since coming to Houston in 2019. Considering the sheer number of long-developing plays he has endured as a Texan, that is quite impressive.
On plays where the quarterback gets rid of the ball within three seconds of the snap, Tunsil ranks second among tackles in pressure rate allowed. At the same time, he sits right at the 50th percentile in run-blocking grade at his position over the past couple of years. Tunsil's price tag in his trade to Houston was clearly too high, but his pass-blocking prowess easily makes him a top-10 tackle.
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Offensive Tackle Rankings: The 32 best OTs entering the 2021 NFL season | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF
Green Bay Packers tackle David Bakhtiari comes in at No. 1 in PFF's 2021 NFL tacle rankings.
OptimisticTexan
2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
Maybe, with the emphasis appearing to lean towards a big run game in 2021....Tunsil will be forced to focus on the betterment of his run blocking.
Better C/G play could also help the OT's in the run game.
Let's fire OB again, shall we?
Not in a power blocking scheme that the Texans were in.
And not on the second level where the block is for the OT alone to make.
Number19
Hall of Fame
But is this out of line for a top 10 OT, and a top 3 pass-blocking OT? The trade may have been out of line, but the contract?
badboy
Hall of Fame
Does not matter, too much for where we are going.
OptimisticTexan
2021 Building Block 1 / Go Texans
With the focus moving towards a serious run game.....trading Tunsil may not be the worst idea. The return could be pretty decent and quite valuable come the 2022 NFL Draft. The Texans could use a stronger run blocker at LT since I’m seeing Taylor as a game manager versus a QB who’s standing in the pocket 35-40 times a game.
Moving Watson and Tunsil at some point this season could really put a lot of assets in the 2022-2023 draft pot.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Wait til that short 3 year deal is up. The price paid to acquire and keep this guy keeps on going. That is, if they decide to keep him. If not, they have to trade him to at least get compensation back. Can’t pay all of that and then just let him walk.
They have a LT that they value very highly.
Why would they need Johnson/Heck to play LT unless Tunsil is hurt.
Acceptance is the 1st step to recovery.