No that’s the real deal. It looks complimentary, but he’s pushing it towards unrealistic setting up his tirade to come at a later date.
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No that’s the real deal. It looks complimentary, but he’s pushing it towards unrealistic setting up his tirade to come at a later date.
Yes sir totally agree here because Caserio shot his wad on young Mr Anderson so I will be disappointed with anything less than a double digit rookie season.
Folks Casserio went to nothing less than historic levels in terms of exchanging consideration to trade up with the Cards for the #3 pick, i.e. he pulled out all of the stops.
I suggest that you prepare yourself for disappointment. It's not impossible that a rookie gets double digit sacks, but pretty unlikely. Next year, yes that should probably be the standard.
He was really trading up for Stroud.Yes sir totally agree here because Caserio shot his wad on young Mr Anderson so I will be disappointed with anything less than a double digit rookie season.
Folks Casserio went to nothing less than historic levels in terms of exchanging consideration to trade up with the Cards for the #3 pick, i.e. he pulled out all of the stops.
I'm going to see how Anderson does in year 2. I'll give Stroud 2 to 2 1/2 years.Are you going to call Anderson a bust if he has 5-6 sacks his first year? Or Stroud if he is top 20?
If they're what they were drafted to be then expectations should be high. None of this learning curve bs after the first few games.I'm going to report this. I think someone hacked steel's account.
Whoever you are, let steeltexan go NOW and return his account!
Anderson and Stroud are more polished players coming out of college.Watt got 5.5 as a rookie and many good QBs look terrible in year 1
The top numbers from rookie edges over the past 5 seasons average 10.4 Sacks and 15 TFL. So the numbers projected for Anderson are hardly out of line.Rookie Stat Projections: Houston Texans EDGE Will Anderson Jr.
Will Anderson Jr. is expected to have a huge rookie season. See his stat projections.sports.yahoo.com
Will Anderson Jr. is expected to have a huge rookie season. See his stat projections.
I've got Hutch over Anderson and I like Anderson a lot.I was. I didn't feel a journeyman QB would accomplish anything. I was for giving Mills his shot in order to determine if an investment in a future QB was necessary. Mills answered that question in a hurry.
Anderson will have to be much better that Walker. At minimum, an Aidan Hutchinson type season. I know Sauce had a remarkable rookie season. Hutchinson would still be my choice at #1 overall from that draft, from a long term perspective. And I would have easily taken Anderson over Hutchinson.
I'm going to see how Anderson does in year 2. I'll give Stroud 2 to 2 1/2 years.
Regardless they should win between 8-10 games. If not this season is a failure and depending on how Stroud performs, which I think he's a carrot/Stick QB. Everybody will think the future is bright. Unfortunately after yr 3 they will find out what Stroud's all about.
I've got Hutch over Anderson and I like Anderson a lot.
Why?
Bigger more complete player.Why?
I'm sorry I know that's an explanation that's used but I'm not buying it, it's really silly.He was really trading up for Stroud.
Supposedly Anderson was 1-1 on their board. Not that it really matters. The McNairs got their guy and Ryans got his guy. They gotta be difference makers.
The Anderson draft pick is not going to ruin the franchise, because on the contrary the Texans could still vey well be back on the road to playing winning and contending NFL football within the next couple seasons and Anderson may be significant part of that rebound for the Houston Texans but that wouldn't change the fact that they foolishly over spent on the Anderson selection.I suggest that you prepare yourself for disappointment. It's not impossible that a rookie gets double digit sacks, but pretty unlikely. Next year, yes that should probably be the standard.
Anderson will have to be much better that Walker. At minimum, an Aidan Hutchinson type season. I know Sauce had a remarkable rookie season. Hutchinson would still be my choice at #1 overall from that draft, from a long term perspective. And I would have easily taken Anderson over Hutchinson.
Can you explain the "flagrantly overpaid" part? How many more draft points were used in the trade than the draft chart table indicated?The bottom line is the Texans flagrantly overpaid for non-QB Will Anderson, only unless he happens to turn out to be a truly generational NFL football player, you like a Lawrence Taylor, and I can't find anybody who thinks Anderson will be beyond a pro-bowl caliber player if that.
OK I'm already an Anderson fan and I'll get a T-shirt or jersey as soon as he figures out which # he wants permanently.Can you explain the "flagrantly overpaid" part? How many more draft points were used in the trade than the draft chart table indicated?
Bigger more complete player.
OK I'm already an Anderson fan and I'll get a T-shirt or jersey as soon as he figures out which # he wants permanently.
But to answer your question - I think multiple NFL first round picks is too much to pay for any college football player who's not a QB, and just 'cause Casserio over paid for him doesn't mean I won't be a fan because I will be, a passionate fan of his as long as he's not a bust and that's very unlikely.
There are many of trades in NFL history where multiple 1st round picks were traded for non-QBs. All were bad deals? That's a blanket statement that's hard to argue against because it has no substance. The Falcons traded multiple 1sts for Julio Jones. What did Cleveland get in return for those multiple picks? Brandon Weeden, for one. The other was traded for Greg Little, who finished with 1890 career receiving yards. Well over 10,000 less than Julio Jones.I think multiple NFL first round picks is too much to pay for any college football player who's not a QB,
I think multiple NFL first round picks is too much to pay for any college football player who's not a QB,
and just 'cause Casserio over paid
You do understand I'm talking about using multiple first round picks to draft a single college player right ?There are many of trades in NFL history where multiple 1st round picks were traded for non-QBs. All were bad deals? That's a blanket statement that's hard to argue against because it has no substance. The Falcons traded multiple 1sts for Julio Jones. What did Cleveland get in return for those multiple picks? Brandon Weeden, for one. The other was traded for Greg Little, who finished with 1890 career receiving yards. Well over 10,000 less than Julio Jones.
Why not wait a bit until these picks play out? You can't or won't show where it was an overpay on any draft value board. Just saying "It was a flagent overpay" doesn't make that true.
You do understand I'm talking about using multiple first round picks to draft a single college player right ?
Are you saying that a team used multiple first round picks to draft Weeden and another team used multiple first rounders to draft Little ?
Julio Jones likely headed to the HOF some day, and granted he was a very good receiver an if you were inclined to argue that he was worth two first rounders you maybe would have an argument..
Which players would you have preferred? Jahmyr Gibbs and Will Levis were the players taken at 1.12 and 2.33.Any way I'd still rather have drafted two rookie starters with my #12 & #33 picks and still had both of my 2024 #1 picks than
Will Anderson, unless Will Anderson actually turns out to the next Larwene Taylor.
Yes sir that is the essence of my point and I like our odds with 3 very high picks, over a single pick to improve our team.I do understand your point. That we basically traded multiple players for 1.
Of course Anderson won't have nearly as much to do with the success our team has or doesn't have in the coming years asI know some people don't agree with this, but if you don't like that cost, would it have been fine if we'd have drafted Anderson at 1.2 and then made that same exact trade to trade up for Stroud?
If these two players turn out to be stars, then I'm fine with this trade. According to the trade charts, the points come out close enough with us giving up the points of a late round pick. If we'd taken Anderson first, we'd have given up a lot more to trade up than we did. In terms of strategy to get the two players they wanted, this was very clever work.
But would they have drafted Stroud without knowing they could trade up for Anderson? I think notOf course Anderson won't have nearly as much to do with the success our team has or doesn't have in the coming years as
CJ will have, so to your question - I'd rather have CJ and kept the #12, #33, 2024 #1 for three other players.
How do you know?Of course Anderson won't have nearly as much to do with the success our team has or doesn't have in the coming years as
CJ will have, so to your question - I'd rather have CJ and kept the #12, #33, 2024 #1 for three other players.
Of course Anderson won't have nearly as much to do with the success our team has or doesn't have in the coming years as
CJ will have, so to your question - I'd rather have CJ and kept the #12, #33, 2024 #1 for three other players.
I thought it was a QB league ?How do you know?
Who had more value to the Ravens, Flacco or Ray-Ray?
I didn't see your answer to the question of did they give up too much to draft Stroud at #3?I thought it was a QB league ?
Yea here's the big question - did we draft the right QB ? Oh and BY was not on our Board so he's not in the conversation.
Maybe Ricdardson will be Lamar Jackson, or god forbid maybe Will Levis will be Elway, or maybe CJ will be Davis Mills ?
But maybe CJ will be I dunno, who do you think man ?
I want Anderson to be LT (just the player, not the off field version), but I'd grudgingly accept Demarcus Ware.
Ok I Iike it DB.You need that guy on Defense that they always have to account for, the guy that wreaks havoc even when you try to scheme him out.
I believe Junior is that guy.
Ok I Iike it DB.
Hey DB are you still the only 10.5 Delta RJ pilot ?
I'm not saying different. Ray won more Super Bowls than Flacco.I thought it was a QB league ?
Bryce wasn't on my board. I didn't want them to draft a QB at all.Yea here's the big question - did we draft the right QB ? Oh and BY was not on our Board so he's not in the conversation.
Good thing Will Anderson is on our side.Maybe Ricdardson will be Lamar Jackson, or god forbid maybe Will Levis will be Elway, or maybe CJ will be Davis Mills ?
Let it be. Let it be.Here's my prediction.
The OC is going to have good schemes. The OL is going to provide sufficient time for receivers to run their routes so that CJ doesn't have to throw it away or take a sack. The receivers are going to run precise routes and create distance.
The consequence of the aforementioned things happening is that CJ is going to pick apart opposing defenses.
But, it's not all on CJ. If the scheme is bad or other units don't execute then CJ will also falter.
I look at it as They got 2 of the top 3 Players as recognized by almost everyone. It appears to most there was over payment for pick 3. We won't know that for a long time probably. Coulda , shoulda and woulda doesn't change anything.I'm sorry I know that's an explanation that's used but I'm not buying it, it's really silly.
The Houston Texans are a single NFL organization which is to say the McNairs don't get a their top pick and Ryans doesn't ALSO get his top pick - collectively they get one top pick and that's all. The bottom line is the Texans flagrantly overpaid for non-QB Will Anderson, only unless he happens to turn out to be a truly generational NFL football player, you like a Lawrence Taylor, and I can't find anybody who thinks Anderson will be beyond a pro-bowl caliber player if that.
I would have preferred that also but there would then be those whom they drafted at those picks which would have increased my posting in negative manner.Of course Anderson won't have nearly as much to do with the success our team has or doesn't have in the coming years as
CJ will have, so to your question - I'd rather have CJ and kept the #12, #33, 2024 #1 for three other players.
How do you know?
Who had more value to the Ravens, Flacco or Ray-Ray?
For that one year maybeI think you could make a pretty strong argument that the way Flacco played during their playoff run that there wasn't a more valuable Raven on the roster.
For that one year maybe
On that team, I’d argue Jacoby Jones. Over the history of the Ravens I’d say Lewis.I think you could make a pretty strong argument that the way Flacco played during their playoff run that there wasn't a more valuable Raven on the roster.
In this scenario, if they draft Anderson at 1.2, the cost for Stroud goes up higher because there would have been a greater market for him IMO.I know some people don't agree with this, but if you don't like that cost, would it have been fine if we'd have drafted Anderson at 1.2 and then made that same exact trade to trade up for Stroud?
That was my preference, as I didn't think Anderson was a generational talent to give up that much capital even if he was a top prospect in this year's draft. Right or wrong, nothing to do now but root like hell for him and the team.Of course Anderson won't have nearly as much to do with the success our team has or doesn't have in the coming years as
CJ will have, so to your question - I'd rather have CJ and kept the #12, #33, 2024 #1 for three other players.
And that's why they did it the way they didIn this scenario, if they draft Anderson at 1.2, the cost for Stroud goes up higher because there would have been a greater market for him IMO.
Nor should they have drafted Stroud at 1-2.But would they have drafted Stroud without knowing they could trade up for Anderson? I think not
Yes they did give up too much.I didn't see your answer to the question of did they give up too much to draft Stroud at #3?
I know you don't like Stroud, ergo your opinion doesn't matter as far as that question goesYes they did give up too much.
Well said, and totally agree with your comments man !That was my preference, as I didn't think Anderson was a generational talent to give up that much capital even if he was a top prospect in this year's draft. Right or wrong, nothing to do now but root like hell for him and the team.
That was my preference, as I didn't think Anderson was a generational talent to give up that much capital even if he was a top prospect in this year's draft. Right or wrong, nothing to do now but root like hell for him and the team.