Allen was the anti-Watson there.My big brown eye test:
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Allen was the anti-Watson there.My big brown eye test:
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Allen was the anti-Watson there.
He panicked at the wrong time. lolLooks like they had that planned but Allen just screwed it up
He panicked at the wrong time. lol
Exactly.
I like Allen and he played well when he didn’t panick.
Most importantly his coaches schemed to his strengths.
His coaches went conservative in the 4th qtr and DW4 had a great 1 1/2 qtrs and overtime.
The Bills did not go conservative. In fact, they should have run the ball more to shorten the game. After Watson's 20 yard run, Buffalo called 5 pass plays in a row, the last a strip sack by Mercilus. The Texans turned that into a FG. On the next Bills drive, they go 3 and out with the last 2 pass plays. Finally, the Bills were down 3, but in FG range at the Texans 28. One intentional grounding takes the Bills out of a tying FG attempt. Some really dumb play calls put too much on Allen.His coaches went conservative in the 4th qtr and DW4 had a great 1 1/2 qtrs and overtime.
Amazing how well Deshaun plays when they start using quick move the pocket calls.
Other than your popshot at Watson, this may be one of your best most reasonable takes I have ever read.Hauschka has missed several GW/tying FG's this yr. I suppose he could miss another one.
In the playoffs particularly you do what you have to do to win the game. If you need to roll DW4 out you do it. If you need to run him like a tailback 20 times per game to get a W you do it.
BTW, This is what gets me about BOB trying to get DW4 to play like Brady, in the playoffs you do whatever is necessary to win and give DW4 his best chance to succeed and that ain't throwing from the pocket because when the primary option isn't open he gets skittish. I know that you have to throw from the pocket some to keep defenses honest but I would be getting him out of the pocket atleast 50% of the time and design runs off of that atleast another 10 times per game. I loved what Daboll did using Allen's legs and hope BOB saw this and said I should be doin more of that.
What have I been saying for the past two years ?
Other than your popshot at Watson, this may be one of your best most reasonable takes I have ever read.
Watson is not Brady and never will be. Stop forcing him to be.
I agree, it’s not fair to compare any athlete to one of the absolute all time greats in their field. I see DW as a Steve Young/John Elway/Steve McNair type of QB. I believe with a little more experience and some help from the coaching staff he’ll bring a SB championship to Houston. He needs to improve on somethings for sure, but man he has some traits you just can’t teach
Is this the kind of straws we’re grasping at to justify a horrible trade? I’ll give you that any pass rush we’ve had without Watt, and it’s been very little, has come from Martin, but he’s a JAG. Certainly not the disrupter JD is, particularly against the run which I think a lot of people haven’t realized, were horrible at.For those who questioned the acquisition trade.
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Jacob Martin's Late Season Pass Rushing Surge Continues in The Texans Playoff Win
Patrick D. StarrJan 5, 2020
Houston, Texas- The Houston Texans pass rush has been an issue the entire season, but outside linebacker Jacob Martin has been attempting to infuse life into the unit. Against the Buffalo Bills in the Wild Card opener, Martin made his presence felt in sacking quarterback Josh Allen to get the ball back into the offense's hands late in the 4th quarter.
Martin recorded one solo tackle, 1.0 sack for 19 yards, one fumble recovery, one tackle for loss, and two quarterback hits against the Bills. With his performance, Martin became the first player in Texans history to record a sack and fumble recovery in the same game.
"I mean anything I can do help this team when I will," Martin said after the win. "I know these guys are going to battle to the end, and it's all bunch of gritty dudes in here that come in and work week in and week out. You know, it was just another opportunity for rock boys go out rock out. It was awesome."
It has been a slow progression for but over the last four games, including the playoff game against the Bills. Martin has 4.5 sacks, and seven quarterback hits in that span.
That production has put Martin into their pass-rushing sets and made him a presence off the edge.
"Just coming in and working every day and staying true to my craft," Martin said of being added to the defensive gameplan. "Listening and then following and learning from Whitney Mercilus and JJ Watt, you know, Brennan Scarlett. Even me I'm the youngest guy in my room, I'm a second-year player. Being around a lot of experience, a lot of guys have won a lot of games and had a lot of success playing this game. It's awesome to come in and be able to learn to work with those guys every week."
Not taking for granted where he started the season to where he is now, Martin appreciates the Texans giving him more opportunities to be on the field in the stretch run of the season.
"It's a tremendous accomplishment to keep going and to pursue greatness," Martin explained.
Martin remains humble and hungry to keep his role with the Texans heading into the Divisional round.
"I understand it a testament, and all I do is thank God you know for his opportunity to be here," Martin said of being with the Texans. "This game isn't guaranteed for everybody you know what I mean? You never know when it's going to end. I'm just thankful for the opportunity to be out here and being able to play with these guys and do something that I love to do."
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Is this the kind of straws we’re grasping at to justify a horrible trade? I’ll give you that any pass rush we’ve had without Watt, and it’s been very little, has come from Martin, but he’s a JAG. Certainly not the disrupter JD is, particularly against the run which I think a lot of people haven’t realized, were horrible at.
Not counting week 17 where we played the 2’s, we’ve given up 155 ypg on the ground since the bye. Another 172 for Buffalo. Sounds like we could use a guy who’s beastly against the run.
Imagine if we had Clowney, Suggs and Watt, but instead we have Mingo, Martin and Watt.Good for him making plays but nobody is scheming to block him. Right now he’s a one trick speed rusher.
And Allen still threw the ball 45 times, I think.Another 172 for Buffalo.
46And Allen still threw the ball 45 times, I think.
everything we see about Martin says he is not just another guy; surprised you think so. Not saying he is Clowney but I would want a full season of starts in 2020 to rule him out. BTW I hated the trade..
Is this the kind of straws we’re grasping at to justify a horrible trade? I’ll give you that any pass rush we’ve had without Watt, and it’s been very little, has come from Martin, but he’s a JAG. Certainly not the disrupter JD is, particularly against the run which I think a lot of people haven’t realized, were horrible at.
Not counting week 17 where we played the 2’s, we’ve given up 155 ypg on the ground since the bye. Another 172 for Buffalo. Sounds like we could use a guy who’s beastly against the run.
I agree, it’s not fair to compare any athlete to one of the absolute all time greats in their field. I see DW as a Steve Young/John Elway/Steve McNair type of QB. I believe with a little more experience and some help from the coaching staff he’ll bring a SB championship to Houston. He needs to improve on somethings for sure, but man he has some traits you just can’t teach
Good for him making plays but nobody is scheming to block him. Right now he’s a one trick speed rusher.
perhaps, but that one trick of getting to the quarterback is extremely valuable And he seems to do it quite well.Yes. He struggles when defending the run.
We're in complete agreement and you can put a couple other HOFer QB's on that list like Montana and Tarkenton.
Problem is that OB doesn't agree with us - He thinks he can make Watson be what OB wants him to be , not what he is.
Nope , those guys don't excel in a Coryell or Erhardt Perkins but they thrive in a WCO.
Imagine if we had Clowney, Suggs and Watt, but instead we have Mingo, Martin and Watt.
Does anyone remember who the poster was that used do the screenshots/gifs of the game and give a breakdown of what may or may not be happening during the Carr/Schaub era?
I wish those would come back.
Does anyone remember who the poster was that used do the screenshots/gifs of the game and give a breakdown of what may or may not be happening during the Carr/Schaub era?
I wish those would come back.
76 Texan?
Bad time for our defense to be giving up 158 rushing yards per game.Here's a funny stat in this passing driven league. This year 7 of the 10 top rushing teams made the post season while only 3 out of the top 10 passing teams made it.
2 of the 3 top passing teams have already been eliminated.
Out of the 8 teams left in the playoffs 6 are in the top 10 rushing teams & only 1 is in the top 10 passing teams.
The Packers are the only team left that was not in the top 10 of either rushing or passing.
Rushing
Ravens - 206.0 Yards Per Game
49ers - 144.1 Yards Per Game
Titans - 138.9 Yards Per Game
Seahawks - 137.5 Yards Per Game
Cowboys - 134.6 Yards Per Game
Vikings - 133.3 Yards Per Game
Colts - 133.1 Yards Per Game
Bills - 128.4 Yards Per Game
Texans - 125.6 Yards Per Game
Cardinals - 124.4 Yards Per Game
Passing
Buccaneers - 302.8 Yards Per Game
Cowboys - 296.9 Yards Per Game
Falcons - 294.6 Yards Per Game
Rams - 281.2 Yards Per Game
Chiefs - 281.1 Yards Per Game
Chargers - 276.6 Yards Per Game
Saints - 265.3 Yards Per Game
Patriots - 247.6 Yards Per Game
Raiders - 245.4 Yards Per Game
Lions - 243.8 Yards Per Game
Bad time for our defense to be giving up 158 rushing yards per game.
The funny thing about this is a) every time I’ve seen the Texans actually put in easy hot routes for Watson to hit, he hits them and b) the Texans look fantastic as an offense when they do and it helps open up the deep passing game.
Let’s talk a little bit about “you cannot take away the instincts of a guy like Deshaun Watson.” I would argue that it’s your job as a head coach to take away some instincts if it keeps you under seven sacks — this offense gets destroyed by negative plays in every game. Too many inside zone runs that everyone sees coming, too many sacks, and too many penalties. When you don’t have the explosive plays that Fuller provides, it’s tough sledding to keep an offense afloat with so much weighing it down. That’s what we saw for Houston’s first four drives against a good Buffalo defense. That’s why the Texans’ most important offensive play this season is literally their quarterback’s +5 dexterity check bailing them out. O’Brien’s offense has somehow become a place where read-options are safer than dropbacks for his quarterback’s health.
I’m well-aware I’m not going to be changing anyone’s mind about who is “at fault” here. I read the Twitter comments. I know which side you’ve staked out. But regardless of what side you’re on, the answer is actually not all that hard. Hot routes need to be better designed and hit. You can’t run two outside curls against an all-out blitz and expect that to get it done. Run drags. Run slants. Fake blockers that become receivers. Run Duke Johnson screens. That’s four ideas off the top of my head without even thinking about it too hard. I try to praise this stuff whenever I see it, because I don’t think anyone involved is stupid. It just has become a matter of intense stubbornness, in my opinion.
Brilliant write up.
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Deshaun Watson, hot reads, and the Bill O'Brien offense - riversmccown.com
What was old was new again in the playoffs as the Buffalo Bills sacked Deshaun Watson seven times on just 12 blitzes, forcing seven scrambles. Watson came out just fine empirically when he was throwing the ball — he completed 20-of-25 passes for one score and lost one fumble — but the end result...www.riversmccown.com
too bad i've got half the board blocked, I would have liked to chuckle at the responses! LOL
Brilliant write up.
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Deshaun Watson, hot reads, and the Bill O'Brien offense - riversmccown.com
What was old was new again in the playoffs as the Buffalo Bills sacked Deshaun Watson seven times on just 12 blitzes, forcing seven scrambles. Watson came out just fine empirically when he was throwing the ball — he completed 20-of-25 passes for one score and lost one fumble — but the end result...www.riversmccown.com
too bad i've got half the board blocked, I would have liked to chuckle at the responses! LOL
The Guru's Offense
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If presnap read shows zone, Hopkins fakes a bubble screen and then does a slant, Fuller does a deep curl, Fells blocks the DE, Stills runs a deep post, and Hyde comes in motion for max protect. If the presnap shows man to man, Fuller, Hopkins, and Stills all run deep posts, Hyde goes to the flat, and Fells runs a deep curl. If the strong safety goes with Hopkins on the post, Stills should break off his route and go over the middle, but if the weak safety is on Fuller, then Hopkins should run a deep out. If Mike drops into middle zone, Fells has to go into the flat, but if Will LB shows Blitz, Fuller runs a slant. If both the CBs are jamming, then Hopkins runs a deep curl, if Fuller sees the Sam cover Hyde, then run a shallow slant, Fells goes to the flat, and Stills runs a deep post. If the weak side CB is on the line, then Fuller slants, Hopkins sits in the middle, Hyde slants, Stills crosses, and Fells runs a seam. Now, if the Strong safety bites on Fuller's deep corner, Hopkins should run a deep crossing route, Stills should drop back into the flat. Fells has to get into the seam and Hyde will run a wheel route. If the Sam LB goes to the flat to cover Hyde, Fells will do a slant over the middle, Hopkins should run a deep out, and Fuller will break off his deep corner and run a deep post. If the Mike shows blitz, Fells runs a deep seam, Fuller fakes a bubble screen, and Hopkins runs a deep hook.
Now, these routes will take some time to make the reads and develop, so you OL gotta block, okay? Deshaun, my scheme guarantees someone WILL be open, you just gotta stay in the pocket, make your reads and go through the progressions. Now, all of you study the play and learn it, for it to work, we all have to be on the same page and make good decisions.
The Guru's Offense
View attachment 5353
If presnap read shows zone, Hopkins fakes a bubble screen and then does a slant, Fuller does a deep curl, Fells blocks the DE, Stills runs a deep post, and Hyde comes in motion for max protect. If the presnap shows man to man, Fuller, Hopkins, and Stills all run deep posts, Hyde goes to the flat, and Fells runs a deep curl. If the strong safety goes with Hopkins on the post, Stills should break off his route and go over the middle, but if the weak safety is on Fuller, then Hopkins should run a deep out. If Mike drops into middle zone, Fells has to go into the flat, but if Will LB shows Blitz, Fuller runs a slant. If both the CBs are jamming, then Hopkins runs a deep curl, if Fuller sees the Sam cover Hyde, then run a shallow slant, Fells goes to the flat, and Stills runs a deep post. If the weak side CB is on the line, then Fuller slants, Hopkins sits in the middle, Hyde slants, Stills crosses, and Fells runs a seam. Now, if the Strong safety bites on Fuller's deep corner, Hopkins should run a deep crossing route, Stills should drop back into the flat. Fells has to get into the seam and Hyde will run a wheel route. If the Sam LB goes to the flat to cover Hyde, Fells will do a slant over the middle, Hopkins should run a deep out, and Fuller will break off his deep corner and run a deep post. If the Mike shows blitz, Fells runs a deep seam, Fuller fakes a bubble screen, and Hopkins runs a deep hook.
Now, these routes will take some time to make the reads and develop, so you OL gotta block, okay? Deshaun, my scheme guarantees someone WILL be open, you just gotta stay in the pocket, make your reads and go through the progressions. Now, all of you study the play and learn it, for it to work, we all have to be on the same page and make good decisions.
I have never seen a more accurate post in my life lolThe Guru's Offense
View attachment 5353
If presnap read shows zone, Hopkins fakes a bubble screen and then does a slant, Fuller does a deep curl, Fells blocks the DE, Stills runs a deep post, and Hyde comes in motion for max protect. If the presnap shows man to man, Fuller, Hopkins, and Stills all run deep posts, Hyde goes to the flat, and Fells runs a deep curl. If the strong safety goes with Hopkins on the post, Stills should break off his route and go over the middle, but if the weak safety is on Fuller, then Hopkins should run a deep out. If Mike drops into middle zone, Fells has to go into the flat, but if Will LB shows Blitz, Fuller runs a slant. If both the CBs are jamming, then Hopkins runs a deep curl, if Fuller sees the Sam cover Hyde, then run a shallow slant, Fells goes to the flat, and Stills runs a deep post. If the weak side CB is on the line, then Fuller slants, Hopkins sits in the middle, Hyde slants, Stills crosses, and Fells runs a seam. Now, if the Strong safety bites on Fuller's deep corner, Hopkins should run a deep crossing route, Stills should drop back into the flat. Fells has to get into the seam and Hyde will run a wheel route. If the Sam LB goes to the flat to cover Hyde, Fells will do a slant over the middle, Hopkins should run a deep out, and Fuller will break off his deep corner and run a deep post. If the Mike shows blitz, Fells runs a deep seam, Fuller fakes a bubble screen, and Hopkins runs a deep hook.
Now, these routes will take some time to make the reads and develop, so you OL gotta block, okay? Deshaun, my scheme guarantees someone WILL be open, you just gotta stay in the pocket, make your reads and go through the progressions. Now, all of you study the play and learn it, for it to work, we all have to be on the same page and make good decisions.
The Guru's Offense
View attachment 5353
If presnap read shows zone, Hopkins fakes a bubble screen and then does a slant, Fuller does a deep curl, Fells blocks the DE, Stills runs a deep post, and Hyde comes in motion for max protect. If the presnap shows man to man, Fuller, Hopkins, and Stills all run deep posts, Hyde goes to the flat, and Fells runs a deep curl. If the strong safety goes with Hopkins on the post, Stills should break off his route and go over the middle, but if the weak safety is on Fuller, then Hopkins should run a deep out. If Mike drops into middle zone, Fells has to go into the flat, but if Will LB shows Blitz, Fuller runs a slant. If both the CBs are jamming, then Hopkins runs a deep curl, if Fuller sees the Sam cover Hyde, then run a shallow slant, Fells goes to the flat, and Stills runs a deep post. If the weak side CB is on the line, then Fuller slants, Hopkins sits in the middle, Hyde slants, Stills crosses, and Fells runs a seam. Now, if the Strong safety bites on Fuller's deep corner, Hopkins should run a deep crossing route, Stills should drop back into the flat. Fells has to get into the seam and Hyde will run a wheel route. If the Sam LB goes to the flat to cover Hyde, Fells will do a slant over the middle, Hopkins should run a deep out, and Fuller will break off his deep corner and run a deep post. If the Mike shows blitz, Fells runs a deep seam, Fuller fakes a bubble screen, and Hopkins runs a deep hook.
Now, these routes will take some time to make the reads and develop, so you OL gotta block, okay? Deshaun, my scheme guarantees someone WILL be open, you just gotta stay in the pocket, make your reads and go through the progressions. Now, all of you study the play and learn it, for it to work, we all have to be on the same page and make good decisions.
I really, really want Miami's 3rd 1st round pick to be in the 30's
I'll take them rolling if it means Baltimore is out of the playoffs.Now do y’all see what I was talking about. Lol we gave them life and they’re taking full advantage. The Titans are rolling courtesy of the Texans
Now do y’all see what I was talking about. Lol we gave them life and they’re taking full advantage. The Titans are rolling courtesy of the Texans
I'll take them rolling if it means Baltimore is out of the playoffs.