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EB wanted control and to be paid top HC money. That was the deal breaker.
Where was that reported out from besides some random guy on twitter the other day?
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EB wanted control and to be paid top HC money. That was the deal breaker.
We do not trust Cal or Jack and neither does JJ or Watson so why should EB?Yea I can definitely understand your stance. Due to lack of information we are all left to speculate what the issue is. I try not to guess on this stuff I believe it’s just been multiple things that he’s seen and he feels he can’t trust Cal or Jack.
We do not trust Cal or Jack and neither does JJ or Watson so why should EB?
We do not trust Cal or Jack and neither does JJ or Watson so why should EB?
Where was that reported out from besides some random guy on twitter the other day?
I know that’s rightCal let Obrien hump us hard.
Wait, is that your take badboy or where did this come from?DW is New York bound. He wants Saleh and Saleh wants him. Deshaun wants NYC and NYC wants Deshaun. The posturing is almost over
trade details being worked out. NY will give 1.2 for Texans to get their future QB and 1.23 + at least round one in 2022. Texans want at least one vet that can be a building block for the future.
You would mock me if I told you. Be patient and see.Wait, is that your take badboy or where did this come from?
One of DHop's baby mama's?You would mock me if I told you. Be patient and see.
https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/ho...lead-new-york-jets-to-championship-contentionDW is New York bound. He wants Saleh and Saleh wants him. Deshaun wants NYC and NYC wants Deshaun. The posturing is almost over
trade details being worked out. NY will give 1.2 for Texans to get their future QB and 1.23 + at least round one in 2022. Texans want at least one vet that can be a building block for the future.
My suggestions Quinnen Williams (move JJ Watt out, Omenihu replaces JJ)
Mekhi Becton (move Tunsil to LG or trade him for top 15 pick & a 3rd)
Safety Ashtyn Davis replaces Eric Murray (trade for a rubber ducky)
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NFL Draft Analyst Has Jets Taking Zach Wilson, Travis Etienne in Mock Draft
While the future is full of uncertainties, it's already clear that Saleh will be living by his mantra, putting his own pedal to the metal. One of the most highly sought-after head coaching candidates on the market explained that he chose New York because he felt a sense of family, a shared desire to return to respectability and a tight-knit community.
Nick Caserio is not part of that trading history and part of reason EB wasn't signed as he wanted control. Nick said no. He was supported in this by Cal McNair who knows what happens when you do that. Culley is a players guy to calm down locker room. He knew Watson not going to be here but he is now an NFL HC.I still think Watson will end up staying, but if he does get traded, the Jets are the most likely place he'll go. But just don't forget the Texans trading history before you get to excited about trading Watson.
Well, my interest is just a little bit peaked - just a little bit. Didn't watch a single game this past season and paid almost zero attention to news. I still read the Chronicle and couldn't miss the headlines for OB's firing and Caserio's hiring as GM. And now the hiring of Culley as HC. Reading TexansTalk today, I see that Watson had a pretty good season, but I have no idea how other players performed. Before today I couldn't tell you the Texans W-L record, although I knew it wasn't good.DW is New York bound... NY will give 1.2 for Texans to get their future QB and 1.23 + at least round one in 2022. Texans want at least one vet that can be a building block for the future...
Well, my interest is just a little bit peaked - just a little bit. Didn't watch a single game this past season and paid almost zero attention to news. I still read the Chronicle and couldn't miss the headlines for OB's firing and Caserio's hiring as GM. And now the hiring of Culley as HC. Reading TexansTalk today, I see that Watson had a pretty good season, but I have no idea how other players performed. Before today I couldn't tell you the Texans W-L record, although I knew it wasn't good.
Now, to the point of the thread, trade Watson and don't look back. Badboy's list of compensation shouldn't be given a second thought. This would be excellent.
If Watson is sent packing, I might even pay a little attention to the draft.
I had stated I was boycotting the NFL because of the politicization of the sport. The complete reboot of the Texans organization has caught my attention, although how much is still questionable. We'll see, but you know, I didn't miss Sunday football, or the Texans, one iota.Welcome back, wondered where you vanished to.
Have you ever negotiated from a position of weakness? Ever sold a house in a buyers market? Trading DW4 is basically impossible for the Texans. Why? If Watson truly wants out and he gives you a list of a couple of teams, those teams are in power now. So say he says Miami for example, Miami will off the Texans the minimum. They can keep Tua and flip him for more capital somewhere else. They will offer their 1st this year and maybe a 1st next year if they're feeling generous. That 1st rd pick this yr would be their 1st rd pick, not the Texans pick. So the Texans get the 14th pick this year and the 14th pick next yr and no qb. If they trade Watson, might as well trade Tunsil and any other young players.
This means Jets give up 4 ones if it’s Williams . Two top picks. .
2019 Quinnen WIlliam 1.3, 2020 Mekhi Becton 1.11, 2021 1.2 Zach Wilson 1.23 WR Terrace Marshall 2022 Round one and Round 2This means Jets give up 4 ones if it’s Williams . Two top picks. .
I wonder if there was something in the NFL by-laws that McNair had to sign when he got the franchise...that would allow the NFL to take over the team if the ownership became a liability? an embarrassment to the League?
I wonder if there was something in the NFL by-laws that McNair had to sign when he got the franchise...that would allow the NFL to take over the team if the ownership became a liability? an embarrassment to the League?
read my post just before yours.do the jets got any extremely good young players worth it ???
The Jets would end up in the same MESS the Texans are in. Unless there are other offers and I am sure there are the league will tell the Texans to Pound Sand. Fix your own mess we will give you 2 ones and you’ll like it2019 Quinnen WIlliam 1.3, 2020 Mekhi Becton 1.11, 2021 1.2 Zach Wilson 1.23 WR Terrace Marshall 2022 Round one and Round 2
Keeping Deshaun does what exactly? If he doesn't want to be a Texan and the Texans have a million holes that they need to fix and have no draft capital why keep him? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around that one.
EB wanted control and to be paid top HC money. That was the deal breaker.
I also understand this argument under most circumstances, however, with the way this Texans team is set up its flat out stinks and has no way to fix it in the near future due to no picks in first two rounds and really no comp picks in 3rd. So you want to keep an elite QB who already doesn't want to be here around and surround him with what? How to fix the defense?The QB is the hardest position to fill in sports. An Elite QB is winning that 1 Billion Lottery. You don't give that up. I don't care how many draft picks they throw at you.
I also understand this argument under most circumstances, however, with the way this Texans team is set up its flat out stinks and has no way to fix it in the near future due to no picks in first two rounds and really no comp picks in 3rd. So you want to keep an elite QB who already doesn't want to be here around and surround him with what? How to fix the defense?
or be a asshole and hold watson hostage for like 4 years !!!!! and then after he finally leaves we can finally start the rebuild in 2025 :P
The Jets would end up in the same MESS the Texans are in. Unless there are other offers and I am sure there are the league will tell the Texans to Pound Sand. Fix your own mess we will give you 2 ones and you’ll like it2019 Quinnen WIlliam 1.3, 2020 Mekhi Becton 1.11, 2021 1.2 Zach Wilson 1.23 WR Terrace Marshall 2022 Round one and Round 2
Going this route helps the franchise how? if Texans prioritize trying to be an ass for the next 5 years boy...I'm not really sure what to say.
edit: too add to that CLEARLY the Texans don't value winning or building a winning culture so I really wouldn't be shocked if that's the case.
Dolphins fan Chad back again....
I wanted to get your feedback on this proposal.
Watson for
2020 1st round pick #3
2020 1st round pick #18
2020 2nd round pick #50
2021 Mia 1st round pick
2021 Mia 3rd round pick
Tua Tagovailoa
What do you think? Not enough?
Over one player and one coach?Stop being so butt hurt over one player and one coach. The McNairs aren’t even close to an embarrassment to the league. Unless you think having problems with a player is worst than a national sex scandal or a national campaign to get a team name changed to the point the team isn’t allowed to play in their own stadium.
Dolphins fan Chad back again....
I wanted to get your feedback on this proposal.
Watson for
2020 1st round pick #3
2020 1st round pick #18
2020 2nd round pick #50
2021 Mia 1st round pick
2021 Mia 3rd round pick
Tua Tagovailoa
What do you think? Not enough?
2021 1st round pick #3Dolphins fan Chad back again....
I wanted to get your feedback on this proposal.
Watson for
2020 1st round pick #3
2020 1st round pick #18
2020 2nd round pick #50
2021 Mia 1st round pick
2021 Mia 3rd round pick
Tua Tagovailoa
What do you think? Not enough?
Stop being so butt hurt over one player and one coach. The McNairs aren’t even close to an embarrassment to the league. Unless you think having problems with a player is worst than a national sex scandal or a national campaign to get a team name changed to the point the team isn’t allowed to play in their own stadium.
As long as "The Texans gameday experience" has the great fans in the parking lot doing their thing..the Texans are fine. Making money anyway. Psls help keep the marketing team promoting "sell outs" at the stadium. Cal and company couldnt care less.
Just another marketing company with a football division.
For another example
Look at the cowboys. Haven't pissed a drop with success in the playoffs in many years yet that gameday experience keeps them profitable.
Texans are profitable
Maybe its me getting old and cranky.
I want to see trophies but that doesnt seem to be the overall goal with the texans.
Sports franchises love the public help fund stadium (playgrounds) and after that love corporate dollars
Over one player and one coach?
Brown forcing a trade after comment by Bob McNair.
Firing Brian Gaine after 17 months for no apparent reason.
Making BoB GM.
Hiring Easterby.
Roots on his way out likely due to Easterby.
Trading Clowney for a 3rd and a couple of non-factor players.
Trading Hopkin for a 2nd and 4th rounder + an over the hill RB.
Firing Olsen our Cap guy.
Fuller and Roby suspended
Firing Amy Palcic.
Choosing Easterby over DW4.
Now you can add the one player and one coach comment to the end of this list.
Yeah, an embarrassment to the League.
I still think Watson will end up staying, but if he does get traded, the Jets are the most likely place he'll go. But just don't forget the Texans trading history before you get to excited about trading Watson.
if we dont get the bank for watson he cant sit for 4 years then
all the texans can say is well we tried to trade watson but we didnt get any deluxe nuts offers lol !!!!
Dolphins fan Chad back again....
I wanted to get your feedback on this proposal.
Watson for
2020 1st round pick #3
2020 1st round pick #18
2020 2nd round pick #50
2021 Mia 1st round pick
2021 Mia 3rd round pick
Tua Tagovailoa
What do you think? Not enough?