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Nick Caserio - New GM

Even though it bit us with Kubiak I still believe the HC should get to hire his own staff. I don't feel the upper echelon of available coaches will want to work where their assistant coaching staff is dictated by the GM or owner.

I can't help but wonder if this seeming interest in people who have never been a head coach (Culley, McCown) is partly motivated by Caserio wanting a HC that will be under his thumb.

If Caserio will get out of the way & let the coaches coach then I am behind him 100%.
 
mws said:
Even though it bit us with Kubiak I still believe the HC should get to hire his own staff. I don't feel the upper echelon of available coaches will want to work where their assistant coaching staff is dictated by the GM or owner.

I can't help but wonder if this seeming interest in people who have never been a head coach (Culley, McCown) is partly motivated by Caserio wanting a HC that will be under his thumb.

If Caserio will get out of the way & let the coaches coach then I am behind him 100%.
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He's looking for a young HC that can grow as the rebuild moves along

Caserio is going to succeed or fail on his on terms with his vision in place. That means finding a HC that will work in lock step with his vision. It's doubtful a vet HC would share Caserio's vision. This vision includes what the coaching staff will look like, down to the waterboy.
 
steelbtexan said:
He's looking for a young HC that can grow as the rebuild moves along

Caserio is going to succeed or fail on his on terms with his vision in place. That means finding a HC that will work in lock step with his vision. It's doubtful a vet HC would share Caserio's vision. This vision includes what the coaching staff will look like, down to the waterboy.
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Another aspect of his rebuild, in my opinion, is that he wants to have stability at the HC position. This is why he likely would prefer a young HC. Also, and this comes down from the McNairs, and is the likely reason Easterby was hired, he wants the Texans to reflect a high moral character.

With his free agent signings, Caserio has shown the ability to quickly move on from mistakes. When he hired Culley I fully believe it was with the intent of him being here for, certainly, more than one year. But Culley was a.disappointment, so Caserio did what he does when personnel don't work out.

This is all why I believe McCown would be a logical choice. Caserio already has his position coaches in place, with only the loss of a couple that will need replacing. He needs a HC now who can come in and coach his vision as you said. Gannon would be a good choice, but as pointed out, as a veteran coach, he seemingly has his own ideas how he wants to manage. If he and Caserio can come to an agreement, great. But other than inexperience, McCown seem to be a solid choice to develope and grow into the responsibilities. Lovie would be a good tutor as well as Caserio.

Hamilton also has good experience but I question whether he would want to come in and work under someone who leap frogged him to the top spot. Overlooking this, I believe Caserio wants him as OC.

All things considered, what we have seen and can deduce, McCown is a good second choice and ideal candidate for Caserio to mentor for long term team stability.
 
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mws said:
Even though it bit us with Kubiak I still believe the HC should get to hire his own staff. I don't feel the upper echelon of available coaches will want to work where their assistant coaching staff is dictated by the GM or owner
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I honestly don’t know what he is doing. I know what I hope he’s doing.

Most HCs fail. Whether they’re lifers like Arians, Reid, or Belichick their 1st stint as HC didn’t end the way they wanted. (Reid & Arians we’re more successful than Belichick the first time, NFCCGs & all, but no SBwins)

most new HCs aren’t as successful as those three & don’t finish their first contract.

I don’t know how involved Capers was with the offense. But Kubiak & O’Brien were hands off on the defense. Brian Flores was hands off on the offense (mention just for reference). Belichick, in New England was in every group meeting & drill. He was involved in the offensive, defensive, & ST game plan.

I think, hope, Caserio is looking for an offensive coach that can go to Lovie Smith & say, “I don’t think what Miles is doing here is going to help our players perform up to expectations on Sunday.” & say it in a way Lovie can receive it for what it is, conform his process to the HC. At the same time that new HC would have to be able to receive feedback from Lovie & adapt his processes on the offensive side of the ball.
 
thunderkyss said:
I honestly don’t know what he is doing. I know what I hope he’s doing.

Most HCs fail. Whether they’re lifers like Arians, Reid, or Belichick their 1st stint as HC didn’t end the way they wanted. (Reid & Arians we’re more successful than Belichick the first time, NFCCGs & all, but no SBwins)

most new HCs aren’t as successful as those three & don’t finish their first contract.

I don’t know how involved Capers was with the offense. But Kubiak & O’Brien were hands off on the defense. Brian Flores was hands off on the offense (mention just for reference). Belichick, in New England was in every group meeting & drill. He was involved in the offensive, defensive, & ST game plan.

I think, hope, Caserio is looking for an offensive coach that can go to Lovie Smith & say, “I don’t think what Miles is doing here is going to help our players perform up to expectations on Sunday.” & say it in a way Lovie can receive it for what it is, conform his process to the HC. At the same time that new HC would have to be able to receive feedback from Lovie & adapt his processes on the offensive side of the ball.
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It's looking more and more like McCown is going to be the guy. I dont like this but will give McCown a chance over the next couple of yrs and hope I'm wrong. Lovie can be a great asset for McCown to lean on.
 
I can not believe anyone would think hiring Josh is a logical decision. I don’t care how anyone tries to spin it. You can dress that thing up all you want, Paint her face with all kinds of makeup. No way that’s a smart and logical decision. But hey winning is not in the near future. So bleep it hire him and stop procrastinating.
 
Texansballer74 said:
I can not believe anyone would think hiring Josh is a logical decision. I don’t care how anyone tries to spin it. You can dress that thing up all you want, Paint her face with all kinds of makeup. No way that’s a smart and logical decision. But hey winning is not in the near future. So bleep it hire him and stop procrastinating.
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It's like when posters defended the Hopkins trade by claiming he got targeted too much while ignoring that his targets were decreasing with Watson at QB and his targets were similar to every other freaking WR1 on other teams. It was one of the dumbest narratives to justify a crappy trade and if McCown is hired, we will see some of the same posters making a similar case as if this is a normal hire.

Everyone says McCown could be a good coach. However, I've not heard any of his supporters outside of NRG say, he would be a good HC today. Yet, we will have posters posting as if they are auditioning to replace Amy Palcic with their posts to spin this hiring decision. This is why I have resigned myself to the simple fact that the Texans are what some fans deserves. You cannot just keep justifying the head scratching stuff the Texans do.
 
Texansballer74 said:
I can not believe anyone would think hiring Josh is a logical decision. I don’t care how anyone tries to spin it. You can dress that thing up all you want, Paint her face with all kinds of makeup. No way that’s a smart and logical decision. But hey winning is not in the near future. So bleep it hire him and stop procrastinating.
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I just hope Steve Smith Sr. is right.
 
Earl34 said:
It's like when posters defended the Hopkins trade by claiming he got targeted too much while ignoring that his targets were decreasing with Watson at QB and his targets were similar to every other freaking WR1 on other teams. It was one of the dumbest narratives to justify a crappy trade and if McCown is hired, we will see some of the same posters making a similar case as if this is a normal hire.

Everyone says McCown could be a good coach. However, I've not heard any of his supporters outside of NRG say, he would be a good HC today. Yet, we will have posters posting as if they are auditioning to replace Amy Palcic with their posts to spin this hiring decision. This is why I have resigned myself to the simple fact that the Texans are what some fans deserves. You cannot just keep justifying the head scratching stuff the Texans do.
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This is far from a normal hire and I haven't seen 1 poster that likes the hire. About the only person who I've seen that thinks hiring McCown is a great idea is Steve Smith SR.
 
steelbtexan said:
Why was the Culley hire a mistake? Do you think Culley was a long term hire? If so then it was a mistake. Let's see who's hired and give them a couple of years before making this judgement. This includes McCown if he's the hire.
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I would say that any time a coach is fired after one year, it was a mistake to hire him in the first place. Why did Caserio not hire a long term HC last year, in the first year of a rebuild.
 
thunderkyss said:
I don't know how you get to this conclusion. He doesn't appear to be looking for anything special.
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Definition; Unicorn - something that is highly desirable but difficult to find or obtain.
If NC isn't looking for anything special, we would have a HC by now.

I think it is probably more important to him that the HC fits in the organization (McNairs, Easterby, Christian, etc...) with the ability to lead a team to W's. The HC will also have to accept NC and Easterby in his ear and telling him who is on his coaching staff.
 
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Toro Bravo said:
I would say that any time a coach is fired after one year, it was a mistake to hire him in the first place. Why did Caserio not hire a long term HC last year, in the first year of a rebuild.
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Good point. Also, we are now in bridge HCs and HC in waiting and OC in waiting territory. After this circular hiring process and ridicule, it makes me wonder why they didn't just retain Romeo as HC.
 
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Texian said:
Mountains of ridicule and a flood of negativity had a profound effect on the McNairs. McCown was their guy.
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He can coach QBs and/or pancakes for a couple of years. Then when Lovie retires, McCown becomes HC and Lovie's son becomes DC. Nick, Jack, and Cal can be happy. The fans won't be happy with 5 years of losing. But who cares about them, anyway?
 
Lucky said:
He can coach QBs and/or pancakes for a couple of years. Then when Lovie retires, McCown becomes HC and Lovie's son becomes DC. Nick, Jack, and Cal can be happy. The fans won't be happy with 5 years of losing. But who cares about them, anyway?
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I was so looking forward to Porn and Pancakes.
 
Toro Bravo said:
I would say that any time a coach is fired after one year, it was a mistake to hire him in the first place. Why did Caserio not hire a long term HC last year, in the first year of a rebuild.
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Because he wants to get talent together so that his long term hire can be successful. Same reason that Lovie was hired.

65 yr old HCs aren't hired to be long term hires.
 
He's been awful early. Don't know how anyone can have any confidence in him. 2 yrs , 2 old coaches. Dont even get me started on the Shaq Lawson deal.
 
I think he just wants a coach……to coach…that’s why he wanted a younger guy with little to no experience.. he wants them to not worry about all the other ****…Leave it to him & the FO..problem is coaches these days don’t want to just coach…they want roster control, personnel control & input on the draft and FA acquisitions etc..everyone wants to try to be like Belichick who is really the only guy to function successfully as the de-facto GM and roster control HC who has say over everything…problem is most of them can’t do it…..and probably why so many of them fail…
 
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Mr teX said:
I think he just wants a coach……to coach…that’s why he wanted a younger guy with little to no experience.. he wants them to not worry about all the other ****…Leave it to him & the FO..problem is coaches these days don’t want to just coach…they want roster control, personnel control & input on the draft and FA acquisitions etc..everyone wants to try to be like Belichick who is really the only guy to function successfully as the de-facto GM and roster control HC who has say over everything…problem is most of them can’t do it…..and probably why so many of them fail…
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He wanted a puppet which is kinda cowardly imo. He wants to make all the decisions without any push back. You cant build a strong organization like that, its impossible. I mean think about BB openly pushing for Flores to get a HC job. You dont think BB knew what kind of string personality he is? It sucks that they didn't even interview a full field of candidates. I'm saying this and I like Lovie. How could anyone not like Lovie?
 
leebigeztx said:
He wanted a puppet which is kinda cowardly imo. He wants to make all the decisions without any push back. You cant build a strong organization like that, its impossible. I mean think about BB openly pushing for Flores to get a HC job. You dont think BB knew what kind of string personality he is? It sucks that they didn't even interview a full field of candidates. I'm saying this and I like Lovie. How could anyone not like Lovie?
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Lol a puppet? Strong organizations bring in people & put people in positions & those positions are CLEARLY defined so that there’s no stepping on of toes & everyone can focus on what they’re chief responsibility is. That is in fact the hallmark of a strong organization. So obviously I disagree with your take.

The prevalent model might be to give your HC all that responsibility, but that doesn’t mean that that SHOULD & has to be the model. and based on what he has been apart of in NE, he may not believe that is the correct approach at all. Fact is you gotta know & accept your strengths & weaknesses & a lot of these HC’s don’t wanna do that….& that’s why they fail their 1st times around. Bob was a pretty decent football coach, but he was terrible as a GM…..couldn’t tell him that tho. Further most of these FO’s talk of a collaborative approach in building the roster, drafting and FA’s….but it’s mostly just talk.

I believe with NC it wasnt/isn’t just talk. Hard to get some of these guys who have been around a while to believe it tho..which again is why he wanted younger, greener guys in the coaching profession. Lovie and Pep are 2 guys who have witnessed it from the inside..were probably skeptical as well initially when they came in under Culley but after last year are more believing…which is why Pep has opted to stick around and why Lovie has/is receptive to taking the gig after being an after thought.
 
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Mr teX said:
Lol a puppet? Strong organizations bring in people & put people in positions & those positions are CLEARLY defined so that there’s no stepping on of toes & everyone can focus on what they’re chief responsibility is. That is in fact the hallmark of a strong organization. So obviously I disagree with your take.

The prevalent model might be to give your HC all that responsibility, but that doesn’t mean that that SHOULD & has to be the model. and based on what he has been apart of in NE, he may not believe that is the correct approach at all. Fact is you gotta know & accept your strengths & weaknesses & a lot of these HC’s don’t wanna do that….& that’s why they fail their 1st times around. Bob was a pretty decent football coach, but he was terrible as a GM…..couldn’t tell him that tho. Further most of these FO’s talk of a collaborative approach in building the roster, drafting and FA’s….but it’s mostly just talk.

I believe with NC it wasnt/isn’t just talk. Hard to get some of these guys who have been around a while to believe it tho..which again is why he wanted younger, greener guys in the coaching profession. Lovie and Pep are 2 guys who have witnessed it from the inside..were probably skeptical as well initially when they came in under Culley but after last year are more believing…which is why Pep has opted to stick around and why Lovie has/is receptive to taking the gig after being an after thought.
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One of the purposes of diversity is to get a different viewpoint through life experiences. I was raised in a 2 parent, middle class, black neighborhood in the 70s. My wife single parent poor class who lost her mother at the age of 7. My cousin is a doctors kid. One of my absolute aces is white, 2 parent middle class. When you have diversity in the workplace, you will see things different, but that doesn't mean you can't come together and produce a great product. When you don't want any resistance, which it seems Caserio wants. I mean even with Flores who he has experience with, why couldn't it be a medium? I mean the guy started with Patriots as a 23 yr old at the bottom of the organization. Someone posted the end was roster control, there is give and take on stuff like that, but when all you want is go along get along, thats a recipe for weakness. Again, I like Lovie, but are they going to give him his resources? I'm sure defensively, Lovie is going to be on his game. Offensively, thats going to be the push point. We will see.
 
leebigeztx said:
One of the purposes of diversity is to get a different viewpoint through life experiences. I was raised in a 2 parent, middle class, black neighborhood in the 70s. My wife single parent poor class who lost her mother at the age of 7. My cousin is a doctors kid. One of my absolute aces is white, 2 parent middle class. When you have diversity in the workplace, you will see things different, but that doesn't mean you can't come together and produce a great product. When you don't want any resistance, which it seems Caserio wants. I mean even with Flores who he has experience with, why couldn't it be a medium? I mean the guy started with Patriots as a 23 yr old at the bottom of the organization. Someone posted the end was roster control, there is give and take on stuff like that, but when all you want is go along get along, thats a recipe for weakness. Again, I like Lovie, but are they going to give him his resources? I'm sure defensively, Lovie is going to be on his game. Offensively, thats going to be the push point. We will see.
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Lovie has been here a year and I’m sure he has worked with NC in bringing in personnel. Hell Practically the whole defense NC brought in on 1-2 year contracts…..for him..Garrett Wallow, Roy Lopez…ditto for the draft picks on defense. So him moreso than any other outside candidate would have an idea of whether or not NC is just talking BS about the collaborative approach between FO & HC in building this team or if he’s for real.

Same thing for Pep. He was about to get interviewed by the jags and possibly have the opportunity to work with the #1 overall pick from last year…& probably guaranteed employment too for the next few years. I don’t think he sticks around even for the promotion under Lovie if he believes NC is full of **** when he talks of alignment and a collaborative approach with the coaches in building this team up.
 
Mr teX said:
Lovie has been here a year and I’m sure he has worked with NC in bringing in personnel. Hell Practically the whole defense NC brought in on 1-2 year contracts…..for him..Garrett Wallow, Roy Lopez…ditto for the draft picks on defense. So him moreso than any other outside candidate would have an idea of whether or not NC is just talking BS about the collaborative approach between FO & HC in building this team or if he’s for real.

Same thing for Pep. He was about to get interviewed by the jags and possibly have the opportunity to work with the #1 overall pick from last year…& probably guaranteed employment too for the next few years. I don’t think he sticks around even for the promotion under Lovie if he believes NC is full of **** when he talks of alignment and a collaborative approach with the coaches in building this team up.
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Nobody passing up those $5m at 63. Much like Culley who probably made more off the Texans (22m) than he has his entire coaching career. My dad said I'm going to show you the uneven rules, but the way you play the game is up to you. Lovie is playing the game and at least he brought his son into the circles. Numbers are needed for true diversity. I like Pep, but I hope Caldwell is in at least qb coach and Rick Dennison is out there too who can be a wizard for the oline. Lovie can manage people well
 
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Nobody passing up those $5m at 63. Much like Culley who probably made more off the Texans (22m) than he has his entire coaching career. My dad said I'm going to show you the uneven rules, but the way you play the game is up to you. Lovie is playing the game and at least he brought his son into the circles. Numbers are needed for true diversity. I like Pep, but I hope Caldwell is in at least qb coach and Rick Dennison is out there too who can be a wizard for the oline. Lovie can manage people well
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that more than anything is what being a HC is…managing people. Which is why I never got the absolute hatred of the potential McCown hire…maybe that’s what they saw in dude…
 
Mr teX said:
that more than anything is what being a HC is…managing people. Which is why I never got the absolute hatred of the potential McCown hire…maybe that’s what they saw in dude…
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Nobody would respect a dude who hasn't managed people before like McCown. Think about it, he's been basically a backup his entire career. Let me preface it by saying , I like Josh. Everyone loves the backup because they don't bear the brunt of leadership, its like house money. The mere fact they actually entertained the idea to me is ridiculous. You would've thought after being interviewed he would get on somebody's staff. Nope, let me go volunteer part time and come back and make it to the finale over the dude who he worked under in Pep. Thats probably why Pep was looking at other jobs. Its really demeaning and it only happens if your complextion is a certain way. The last time it happened, Norm Van Brocklin was the dude 61 yrs ago. Them players were looking at Culley sideways and he's been in the game 27 yrs. McCown was pushed frontward by 1 dude. If that lawsuit wasn't dropped which outlined certain hiring practices , McCown would've been the HC
 
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Nobody would respect a dude who hasn't managed people before like McCown. Think about it, he's been basically a backup his entire career. Let me preface it by saying , I like Josh. Everyone loves the backup because they don't bear the brunt of leadership, its like house money. The mere fact they actually entertained the idea to me is ridiculous. You would've thought after being interviewed he would get on somebody's staff. Nope, let me go volunteer part time and come back and make it to the finale over the dude who he worked under in Pep. Thats probably why Pep was looking at other jobs. Its really demeaning and it only happens if your complextion is a certain way. The last time it happened, Norm Van Brocklin was the dude 61 yrs ago. Them players were looking at Culley sideways and he's been in the game 27 yrs. McCown was pushed frontward by 1 dude. If that lawsuit wasn't dropped which outlined certain hiring practices , McCown would've been the HC
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you can’t know that. Furthermore, a lot of those guys in that lockerroom know McCown
and he probably carries more respect with them b/c he’s a been player…a recent player in fact. Culley had an issue with guys moreso b/c of the situation he was put in with DW4 and he was neither an offensive or defensive guy really.
 
leebigeztx said:
One of the purposes of diversity is to get a different viewpoint through life experiences. I was raised in a 2 parent, middle class, black neighborhood in the 70s. My wife single parent poor class who lost her mother at the age of 7. My cousin is a doctors kid. One of my absolute aces is white, 2 parent middle class. When you have diversity in the workplace, you will see things different, but that doesn't mean you can't come together and produce a great product. When you don't want any resistance, which it seems Caserio wants. I mean even with Flores who he has experience with, why couldn't it be a medium? I mean the guy started with Patriots as a 23 yr old at the bottom of the organization. Someone posted the end was roster control, there is give and take on stuff like that, but when all you want is go along get along, thats a recipe for weakness. Again, I like Lovie, but are they going to give him his resources? I'm sure defensively, Lovie is going to be on his game. Offensively, thats going to be the push point. We will see.
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Totally agree with the 1st part of your post.

The 2nd part of your post is lets wait and see if Caserio is able to add the talent over the next couple of yrs to give Lovie the resources he needs to be successful. What I really think it will come down to is 2 things, 1 Can Pep and the new QB coach keep Mills on the improvement tack he was on the last month of the season. A positive is Mills already has a good idea of what Pep wants the offense to look like. 2. Can Caserio figure out how to add talent to the team to make them a contender in 2-3 yrs.
 
Mr teX said:
Strong organizations bring in people & put people in positions & those positions are CLEARLY defined so that there’s no stepping on of toes & everyone can focus on what they’re chief responsibility is.
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Okay, that strong organization sounds great. But what does that have to do with the Texans?

The VP/Character Coach is telling the owner who should be the head coach.
The owner is telling the GM (who supposedly has complete football authority) whom he can and can't hire.
The GM is on the headset telling the head coach what he should be doing during games.

The definitions of responsibility on this team are as clear as mud.
 
Lucky said:
Okay, that strong organization sounds great. But what does that have to do with the Texans?
The VP/Character Coach is telling the owner who should be the head coach.
The owner is telling the GM (who supposedly has complete football authority) whom he can and can't hire.
The GM is on the headset telling the head coach what he should be doing during games.

The definitions of responsibility on this team are as clear as mud.
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I've got no problem with the headset thingy.

The rest of the post is spot on and nothing will change as long as the McNair's own the team. Best we can hope for is to get really lucky and catch lightning in a bottle in a couple of yrs.
 
steelbtexan said:
Totally agree with the 1st part of your post.

The 2nd part of your post is lets wait and see if Caserio is able to add the talent over the next couple of yrs to give Lovie the resources he needs to be successful. What I really think it will come down to is 2 things, 1 Can Pep and the new QB coach keep Mills on the improvement tack he was on the last month of the season. A positive is Mills already has a good idea of what Pep wants the offense to look like. 2. Can Caserio figure out how to add talent to the team to make them a contender in 2-3 yrs.
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The defense is way ahead of the offense just on basics. Pep is from Harbaugh which is kinda Westcoast ish. Dennison is out there as oline coach. They need more talent in the rb room. The problem this franchise is going to face is of players have options, they're not going to choose Houston. Players do like Lovie, I mean how can you not, but even when they get the cap cleared up, the stigma of these last few years is going to be there. Or they're going to have to overpay for middle of the road FA's. Alot of this depends on Mills. You're alot higher on him than I am and thats fine, but looking at the AFC, I don't think you can build a team good enough to contend without a top flight qb. I don't know how you think this team could be a contender in 3 yrs with Mills, but didn't think they could be a contender with Watson. Weird, I guess, but the clock is quicker because he's a 3rd rd pick which means a 4 yr contract. My support has to be earned. When and if they start winning, or show steps, I will start watching them live again and taking my family to games.
 
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Culley was clueless. So I didn't have a problem in that instance. If it continues with Lovie...it will become a problem
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I don't know if he was guilty of it, but micro-managment will make one's temperament become like that of our beloved Bill O'Brien .... sure miss'im !
 
Lucky said:
Okay, that strong organization sounds great. But what does that have to do with the Texans?

The VP/Character Coach is telling the owner who should be the head coach.
The owner is telling the GM (who supposedly has complete football authority) whom he can and can't hire.
The GM is on the headset telling the head coach what he should be doing during games.

The definitions of responsibility on this team are as clear as mud.
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lol, it’s amazing how perspectives change. Our fans,..this is all perceived as “dysfunction”. But what you’re failing to take into account is a lot of what’s going on here was happening in Foxboro for 20 years to the tune of 6 SB’s…..Years that NC was apart of. NC was on the headset with McDaniels and Belichick and who knows who else helping them do whatever. Kraft was telling his GM….Belichick what to do regarding roster moves (told Beli to trade Garappolo instead of Brady). & of course Easterby was all up in the locker room and owner’s suite with players and the owner so it’s hard to imagine that he didn’t have some “influence” on both Beli and Kraft’s decision making in 6 years there. Dude might still be there too if Kraft could’ve kept his pee pee in his pants & BoB not sought him out to come here.

It was thought of as a model organization when it was going on up there though.

So yeah, to you…..on the outside, it looks like “mud”…but at the end of the day…just like players say, the only thing that matters is what they think inside those walls…and I’m sure that’s at least a bit how they perceive it as well. I’m actually more upset with the fact that Cal gave in to the whining within this fan base.
 
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lol, it’s amazing how perspectives change. Our fans,..this is all perceived as “dysfunction”. But what you’re failing to take into account is a lot of what’s going on here was happening in Foxboro for 20 years to the tune of 6 SB’s…..Years that NC was apart of. NC was on the headset with McDaniels and Belichick and who knows who else helping them do whatever. Kraft was telling his GM….Belichick what to do regarding roster moves (told Beli to trade Garappolo instead of Brady). & of course Easterby was all up in the locker room and owner’s suite with players and the owner so it’s hard to imagine that he didn’t have some “influence” on both Beli and Kraft’s decision making in 6 years there. Dude might still be there too if Kraft could’ve kept his pee pee in his pants & BoB not sought him out to come here.

It was thought of as a model organization when it was going on up there though.

So yeah, to you…..on the outside, it looks like “mud”…but at the end of the day…just like players say, the only thing that matters is what they think inside those walls…and I’m sure that’s at least a bit how they perceive it as well. I’m actually more upset with the fact that Cal gave in to the whining within this fan base.
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If its not directly Hoodie or Brady, I don't really buy into it. The special of those 2 guys Trump and overshadow anything. Caserio in my opinion started with a clean slate. Right now he's on the negative side by assembling the 2nd oldest team in nfl and a old coach. This time around, I will see if he can get on the positive side. We will see
 
I'm encouraged by Caserios new coaches.
Sure, we might have done a little better than Lovie Smith, but that is still unprovable due to subjectivity - after all, we haven't seen Lovie as HC here yet.
I think Lovie has a leg up on this gig being already familiar with personel.
I don't know if Warhop was Lovies choice or if NC did some sniffing around and suggested him.
I think these are positive moves.
 
leebigeztx said:
If its not directly Hoodie or Brady, I don't really buy into it. The special of those 2 guys Trump and overshadow anything. Caserio in my opinion started with a clean slate. Right now he's on the negative side by assembling the 2nd oldest team in nfl and a old coach. This time around, I will see if he can get on the positive side. We will see
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He will begin to add young players through the draft. Look at how many players from last years draft made the team and that was without 1-2 nd Rd picks.
 
steelbtexan said:
He will begin to add young players through the draft. Look at how many players from last years draft made the team and that was without 1-2 nd Rd picks.
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Making the Texans team in 2021 was no great feat. Dozens of guys working at Home Depot and Lowes could have made the Texans last year and this year. Is it possible to add much older players thru the draft?
 
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