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Moulds Trade Official
- Thread starter O.G.
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Looks as if Kubiak is going for the Rod Smith/Ashley Lelie combo...worked pretty well for them last year:
Rod Smith: 1105 yards recieving
Ashley Lelie: 770 yards recieving
Now those kind of stats can really open up your running game. It would be nice not to see a saftey tackling the runningback within 3 seconds.
Rod Smith: 1105 yards recieving
Ashley Lelie: 770 yards recieving
Now those kind of stats can really open up your running game. It would be nice not to see a saftey tackling the runningback within 3 seconds.
I'd take that in a HEART BEAT!!! If you ever watched him Play he is not just any 32 year old WR. He is still one of the BEST in the League. Buffalo had QB problems and Lee EVANS was great at the end of 2004. What Happened (J.P. Lossman). When Lossman did find a target it was (31 yo MOULDS) not (24 yo Evans) that should say something for Moulds. I know CARR has his own problems but Moulds can do nothing but help our inexperienced WR's especially by TEACHING them how to play the POSITION!!!
TexanFan881
All Pro
tulexan said:
Losman heavily favored Evans and Holcomb favored Moulds. If Holcomb was in the whole year Moulds would have had a better year.
LOSSMAN may have favored EVANS but he COMPLETED more PASSES to MOULDS for more TD's. DUDE I know I played Fantasy Football last year and EVANS didn't do anything at the first of the SEASON. Everything was to MOULDS!!!! Evans wasn't even on the RAIDAR until the last 3 games of the SEASON when I think MOULDS was UNHAPPY and Suspended for a GAME. By that time I think Holcomb was Benched and LOSSMAN was back in so maybe YOU REMEMBER the LAST 3 or 4 GAMES but You don't REMEMBER the whole SEASON!!!!! SHOW me the STATS for BUFFALO's first 13 Games and i would be very Surprised if EVANS was ahead of MOULDS in any Categories except maybe attempts thrown to ( that is not the same as Catches and TD's)!!! I can run around and say hey throw me the ball but if it doesn't land in hands it's just a wasted play!!!!!
The Dude Abides
Veteran
2 CENTS said:
Lee Evans had 7 touchdowns compared to Moulds 4. Evans only had one good game in the last 3. In 2 of those games he had 22 yards total. He had 1 touchdown in the last 3 games.
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
Are you emphasizing or is your ALL CAPS key broken? He was benched because he went off on Mularkey for not getting the ball.2 CENTS said:
Speaking of FF, I traded Evans and Julius Jones for DD and AJ.
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Texans Pride
Veteran
dtran04 said:
Where did you hear this? Who is the memeber?
SnakeOilTanker
Waterboy
this could be exciting
Texans Pride
Veteran
dtran04 said:
I think you might be mistaken. . .We don't have a TexanFan007 on this board, but we do have a texanfan2002114, and he reported:
"Mark Berman said on Fox 26 tonight, that Greg Johnson (agent) said the talks with the Texans are going smoothly and all they need to do is, and I quote "Dot the I's and cross the T's".
From the sounds of it, Moulds will be a Texan by the end of the week!!"
See post 205 of this thread
So we may be close, but nothing is done yet.
SnakeOilTanker
Waterboy
he's talking about houstonprofootball.com
but i couldnt find it at first glance
bummer
but i couldnt find it at first glance
bummer
dirty steve
Veteran
Texans Pride said:
there's a handle (texansfan007) on HFP that blurbed something about the moulds deal being done. didn't have much else to say, though.
SnakeOilTanker
Waterboy
Berman would be the guy to break it before everyone else, so if he's faking atleast he's smart lol
Texans Pride
Veteran
Ok, found what you were talking about dtran04, looks like I was confused as to which board you were talking about; thanks dirty steve.
I did find this too from the Chronicle:
Meanwhile, the Texans remained interested in trading for Buffalo Bills receiver Eric Moulds but reported no progress in their attempt to work out a new contract. The Bills have given Moulds permission to negotiate with teams interested in trading for him.
A deal wasn't imminent Monday. Philadelphia and New England appear to be the Texans' primary competition for Moulds. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick in exchange for the 32-year-old receiver.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3752421.html
Go to bed guys.....Looks like there will be no news tonight.
I did find this too from the Chronicle:
Meanwhile, the Texans remained interested in trading for Buffalo Bills receiver Eric Moulds but reported no progress in their attempt to work out a new contract. The Bills have given Moulds permission to negotiate with teams interested in trading for him.
A deal wasn't imminent Monday. Philadelphia and New England appear to be the Texans' primary competition for Moulds. The Bills are asking for a fourth-round pick in exchange for the 32-year-old receiver.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3752421.html
Go to bed guys.....Looks like there will be no news tonight.
jacquescas
Veteran
lastest from kffl
Section 620
Practice Squad
Patriots | Team not moving fast enough for Moulds
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:33:01 -0800
Tom E. Curran, of the Providence Journal, reports Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds' advisor, Gerg Johnson, said the Philadelphia Eagles and the Houston Texans are moving faster than the New England Patriots to try to land Moulds. Johnson said, "It's not going to work out [with New England]. The timing's not right. The only way it would get done now is if it falls apart with these other teams, and I don't see that happening." He believes everything will be settled in the next 48 hours.
***Missed it by THAT much!!
Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:33:01 -0800
Tom E. Curran, of the Providence Journal, reports Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds' advisor, Gerg Johnson, said the Philadelphia Eagles and the Houston Texans are moving faster than the New England Patriots to try to land Moulds. Johnson said, "It's not going to work out [with New England]. The timing's not right. The only way it would get done now is if it falls apart with these other teams, and I don't see that happening." He believes everything will be settled in the next 48 hours.
***Missed it by THAT much!!Not sure if this has been posted...
"NFL Network's Adam Shefter believes the Bills will be forced to release Eric Moulds.
Like the Terrell Owens situation with the Eagles, the Bills lost all their leverage when they made it clear Moulds was facing release. Buffalo is asking for a fourth-round pick, but Shefter reports no one will give it up. Houston and Philadelphia are reportedly the favorites to go after Moulds. Mar. 27 - 8:20 pm et"
From rotoworld.com
"NFL Network's Adam Shefter believes the Bills will be forced to release Eric Moulds.
Like the Terrell Owens situation with the Eagles, the Bills lost all their leverage when they made it clear Moulds was facing release. Buffalo is asking for a fourth-round pick, but Shefter reports no one will give it up. Houston and Philadelphia are reportedly the favorites to go after Moulds. Mar. 27 - 8:20 pm et"
From rotoworld.com
ledzeppelin229
Hall of Fame
If he's released...I get the feeling he will be going to Philly. Texas isn't so much closer to Mississippi that it would make him risk the former 2-14 team.
ledzeppelin229
Hall of Fame
flappst said:
Yea I would like to avoid using our 4th rounder this year as well simply because it's the 1st pick on the 2nd day. Maybe our 4th rounder next year if they don't bite on a 5th this year.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Philly is his first choice so if they already have the contract hammered out once the deadline passes odds favour the Eagles. Texans will have to pay more and/or get the early jump by giving up the pick if they really want Moulds 
myself I could go either way, leave this one in Kubes hands, whatever he thinks
myself I could go either way, leave this one in Kubes hands, whatever he thinks
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
id love it to happen but i feel we're being used to make philly pay up..but you never know, people assummed NO was being used to jack up brees' price and we all know what happened there....
if i had to bet id say philly but they have alot of wrs- maybe gaffney will do us a good turn with the eagles deciding his addition means they've enough wrs
if i had to bet id say philly but they have alot of wrs- maybe gaffney will do us a good turn with the eagles deciding his addition means they've enough wrs
Maddict5 said:
True and Philly isn't going to bang out the big bucks for Moulds like Issac Bruce. Bruce Resigned with his orginal to team simply because the offered him the most. Moulds isn't going to get 3 years, 5 million a year. Moulds is a solid receiver, but his no N.O., selfish or not.
flappst said:
Philadelphia, & New England........... Buffalo still has plenty of leverage, as it looks like we could get stuck in the middle of a bidding-war.
Maddict5 said:
N.O. was being used to jack up the price on Brees.............. Miami just wasn't playing that game.
O.G. said:
I disagree..... Philly has a lot of nothing....Gaffney may very well be their best WR right now. I think they realize that they've been shooting themselves in the foot all this time, by not getting McNabb legit targets.......... I was under the impression that they'll be scraping the bottom of the NFC East again in 2006, but if they land some real playmakers, they may have a chance in the NFC EAst........ man, they are going to be tough this year, just like days of old.
Big B Texan Fan
Veteran
http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/14195503.htm
This is either an attempt to drive up the asking price or he doesn't wanna play second fiddle to AJ. He could wind up being the #1 receiver in Philly. And they're more suited to "win now" than us. I guess I'd wanna go there too. Plus Philly seems to be a pass first team w/out a strong running game. W/Kubes we're gonna run the ball til our eyes bleed.
This is either an attempt to drive up the asking price or he doesn't wanna play second fiddle to AJ. He could wind up being the #1 receiver in Philly. And they're more suited to "win now" than us. I guess I'd wanna go there too. Plus Philly seems to be a pass first team w/out a strong running game. W/Kubes we're gonna run the ball til our eyes bleed.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Big B Texan Fan said:
I just do not see him coming here especially if he is not traded and released. Does anyone think that Gaffney is helping the situation being in Philly from an intangible standpoint?
Kaiser Toro said:
Not that Philly won't be a good situation, I just don't believe Philly will offer the money Mould wants. I think when it's all said and done, he will end up in Houston. They (The Texans) have made an aggressive attempt to get him. Also just heard on 610, that New England isn't as big of a player in the Mould sweepstakes as once said and everyone will have a clearer picture on where Moulds will land in the next 48 Hours.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
coachdent said:
In that Moulds' agent or Moulds would be speaking to Gaff about Houston. I am not speaking to Gaff on the field next year.
jacquescas
Veteran
i doubt Moulds is going to take Gaff's word for it. Even if they ever spoke which i doubt.
coachdent
Waterboy
Kaiser Toro said:
Moulds wants to be shown the money. I don't think he would contact Gaffney to get his take on the situation in Houston. Moulds considers himself on a different level than Gaffney so I don't think he's comparing his apples to Gaffneys oranges.
Moulds wants money and Philly tends to be very dialed in to specific numbers which they give to certain positions. T.O. was the anomally. They normally don't go overboard paying for wide receivers.
Moulds agent is playing Houston in much the same way that Orlando Pace did. Driving th eprice up. He'll say everyone is interested to help his client. Looks like he will be released and a free agent. Tough to put numbers on it, but my gut feeling is that the Texans have a 30-40% chance at Moulds. It is this high because I think Philly may not pony up the cash. They still are looking at the Green Bay receiver Javon Walker.
TexanFan881
All Pro
Why can't we just give them the 4th round pick and get Moulds. A 4th round pick will not be able to do what Moulds can this year. Just give them the pick so we don't have to have an auction trying to get him among other teams. I thought in the Chron article it said the problem wasn't the pick, but signing him...
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
coachdent said:
Yes that is the same approach I would take in uprooting my family and taking a new job.
Moreover, as a former agent I would ping all resources in framing any move for a client.
TexanFan881
All Pro
Why would they want him? So he can play for 3rd WR with Bobby Engram?
TexanFan881
All Pro
From kffl
All of a sudden they aren't too slow
All of a sudden they aren't too slow
610 Morning show just got thru interview Philly Beat Writer Gary Cobb. He had alot to say about the T.O. situation. He also touched on how the Eagles plan on using Gaff. He said Gaffney could easily if D. McNabb gains confidence in him have between 75-80 catches and he is bidding for the 2nd receiver position. Cobb said that they like the fact that Gaffney didn't drop anything and was able to get 55 catches from a QB that was running for his life all game every game. He said Philly wasn't going to throw the ball as much as they did last year. He touched on our DE signing of Kalu. Said that if he could stay healthy, he would be a great addition. Last thing before he left and bringing it up on his own was the Moulds situation. He said, he would love to see him in Philly but Philly is not going to pay close to what he was asking and if the Texans have the better offer, the will get him.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
O.G. said:
Thanks for sharing.
TexanFan881
All Pro
If it is still only a race between us and the Eagles I think we will win it, I'm just not sure if he goes into free agency if we can get him, since there are a lot of teams interested. The Eagles from the beginning were only somewhat interested and that's probably because Moulds wanted to go there.
IMO getting moulds will have us ready to win next year...it gives us a ligit number 2 receiver opposite andre and it might actually start some competition for the number 1 spot...not saying that andre isn't all that but his ability to gain seperation from double teams like randy moss, to, and chad johnson might be because lack of competition...moulds would present a challenge to him one i think he would welcome...also getting moulds would finally give us a veteran presence in our receiving corp...one i think has been badly needed...along with those two receivers we would have a nfl caliber TE, two great runningbacks (given we take bush)...and a system that will actually work...you put all that together and we might be averaging more than 13.5 pts a game...probably more like 21pts a game
powerfuldragon
Enchilada Aficionado.
after thinking about this last night, i decided it'd be good to have him on the team. It'll give some time for players like mathis or armstrong to fully develop.