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Moulds Trade Official
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Texans34Life
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Updated on Globe and Mail - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060327.wmoulds27/BNStory/Sports/
Just saw some quotes in this article that were different in this thread:
Texans emerge as team most interested in Moulds
Associated Press
Buffalo The Houston Texans have emerged as the team most interested in trading for disgruntled Bills receiver Eric Moulds, who has vowed he won't return to Buffalo.
"I've had a great conversation with Charley Casserly, and it's intriguing," Moulds's personal adviser Greg Johnson said Monday, referring to the Texans general manager. "I'm not saying he's definitely going to Houston, but I'm saying that Houston is definitely a player."
Johnson, who said "things are heating up," said he's already discussed reworking his client's contract with Casserly should a trade be made. Texans spokesman Tony Wyllie declined comment.
Moulds, who has two years left on his contract, has the Bills' permission to seek a trade after he twice rejected the team's request to take a pay cut. A 10-year veteran, Moulds is the Bills senior player and ranks second on the team in numerous career receiving categories. He's scheduled to make $7.1 million next season, but because of bonuses count about $10.85 million against the salary cap, a figure Buffalo deems too expensive.
Releasing or trading Moulds would save the Bills at least $5.5 million in cap space. Buffalo would likely settle for a fourth-round pick or higher in a deal for Moulds.
Johnson said he's also had conversations with Philadelphia Eagles president Joe Banner and New England Patriots personnel director Scott Pioli. However, the Patriots, who have lost three receivers to free agency this month, are considered an unlikely trade candidate because they play in the same division as Buffalo.
Johnson added others who've expressed interest include Kansas City, San Francisco, Denver and Seattle.
Johnson said Moulds would be interested in playing for Houston, even though the Texans are coming off an NFL-worst 2-14 finish and have not had a winning record in their five seasons.
Houston is close to Moulds's native Mississippi, which would allow his family to see him play more often. Johnson added Moulds would complement a Texans offence that already has a solid receiver in Andre Johnson and has the opportunity to draft USC running back and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush with the No. 1 pick in next month's draft.
Johnson said he plans to continue discussions with interested teams before Moulds begins comparing offers.
Just saw some quotes in this article that were different in this thread:
Texans emerge as team most interested in Moulds
Associated Press
Buffalo The Houston Texans have emerged as the team most interested in trading for disgruntled Bills receiver Eric Moulds, who has vowed he won't return to Buffalo.
"I've had a great conversation with Charley Casserly, and it's intriguing," Moulds's personal adviser Greg Johnson said Monday, referring to the Texans general manager. "I'm not saying he's definitely going to Houston, but I'm saying that Houston is definitely a player."
Johnson, who said "things are heating up," said he's already discussed reworking his client's contract with Casserly should a trade be made. Texans spokesman Tony Wyllie declined comment.
Moulds, who has two years left on his contract, has the Bills' permission to seek a trade after he twice rejected the team's request to take a pay cut. A 10-year veteran, Moulds is the Bills senior player and ranks second on the team in numerous career receiving categories. He's scheduled to make $7.1 million next season, but because of bonuses count about $10.85 million against the salary cap, a figure Buffalo deems too expensive.
Releasing or trading Moulds would save the Bills at least $5.5 million in cap space. Buffalo would likely settle for a fourth-round pick or higher in a deal for Moulds.
Johnson said he's also had conversations with Philadelphia Eagles president Joe Banner and New England Patriots personnel director Scott Pioli. However, the Patriots, who have lost three receivers to free agency this month, are considered an unlikely trade candidate because they play in the same division as Buffalo.
Johnson added others who've expressed interest include Kansas City, San Francisco, Denver and Seattle.
Johnson said Moulds would be interested in playing for Houston, even though the Texans are coming off an NFL-worst 2-14 finish and have not had a winning record in their five seasons.
Houston is close to Moulds's native Mississippi, which would allow his family to see him play more often. Johnson added Moulds would complement a Texans offence that already has a solid receiver in Andre Johnson and has the opportunity to draft USC running back and Heisman Trophy winner Reggie Bush with the No. 1 pick in next month's draft.
Johnson said he plans to continue discussions with interested teams before Moulds begins comparing offers.
DRAMA
Rookie
scarsdale said:
I like Winston too but don't know much about his footwork. I'd almost be tempted to go Mangold there and play him at G/C combo. If Flanagan DOES get hurt, Mangold can move to Center and Weary or (Draftpick) can move to guard. Otherwise, I'm willing to bet out of the guards and centers, Mangold would get the call.
I like Moulds for a 4th and REALLY for a 5th. Remember, they want that cap space more than our 4th rounder. I would assume that this deal gets done fairly quickly.
The Preacher
Waterboy
DRAMA said:
If possible I really hope they don't give up the first pick of the second day because you know someone will slip through the cracks who they never thought would. That or someone else does and yo upick up an extra 5th in the process. Our 5th is almost like a 4th anyways so I think the Bills would settle for that. This does smell a little like the Pace deal except the Bills aren't desperate to get him back. Other teams know they'll have to pony up if we're involved so it's no surprise his people are in talks with the FO.
titan hater
Waterboy
The Preacher said:
Agreed... It has me a little worried....
Mike Kerns
LYSB Podcast
TexanAddict
Texan 'til I Die
Texans34Life said:
I bet we could probably give our 5th this year and maybe our 5th next year and still meet what the Bills are after, with or pick being the first of the 5th round and therefore basically a 4th. I'd rather hang on to our 4th this year.
adrianshrev
Noob
well i like the deal i think it would help the offense out a lot and keep the defense fresher than it has been... but it also sets up a trade down possibility that no one has said here we would have fixed or addressed every offense concern except tackle and tennessee wants that first pick to get lineart.. what to do?? what do ya think?
the wonger need food
All Pro
Don't the Bills need a tackle? Too bad Capers (and/or some of his clowns) didn't go to Buffalo or we could discuss a Wade for Moulds trade.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
the wonger need food said:
Not a bad point as the hits on the cap seem similar, would need to look at that much closer. But that would be huge.
TexanFan881
All Pro
Nobody would be able to stop us with Carr at QB, DD and Bush in the backfield with Cook at FB, AJ and Moulds lined up at WR and Putzier at TE.
TexanFan881
All Pro
texman8 said:
I really hope your right about that. I want Moulds to come to Houston
the wonger need food
All Pro
Why would the Texans not want to sign an almost guaranteed Hall of Famer with several good years left in him? Unless it's strictly a money issue, of course.
D-ReK
RAWWWRR!
rmartin65 said:
I do too, but Moulds is better at this stage in his career than any WR available in the draft...This won't be the case in a few years after Jackson and Holmes get acclomated to playing in the league, but it's true for now...A bone fide number two receiver who would bring much needed experience to a young WR core for a 4th rounder is a steal, IMO...
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
rmartin65 said:
I'll take moulds as our #2 over whatever we could get in the 4th or the 5th. The draft is a crapshoot, and while i dont think you should do it with your early picks, trading your later picks for players that have proven themselves as nfl talent isnt a bad thing. If we have a standard offense, show me a lineup with andre and moulds on the outside, walter and mathis coming in, putzier as our tight end, and dominack davis as our rb. With our upgraded offensive line, Carr would be flat out of excuses IMO
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
swtbound07 said:
Yep, it would definitely be a put up or shut up year, especially if we have better line play.
if we were able to work out a deal to get eric moulds for a day two pick this would be a huge addition for us...you put him and andre together with walter in the slot and putzier at TE with DD and bush splitting carries this offense has the making of a high powered offense...comm'on casserly get this done quickly before the eagles land him
Señor Stan
El Guapo
TEXANS84 said:
This is nothing like the Pace deal. We would have given up TWO first rounders for Pace. The Rams ended up signing him for more than we offered. I don't think the Bills have any intention of resigning him, it will be trade or cut. The Rams were never going to just cut Pace.
I think the Pats, Eagles, Broncos, etc. will wait for him to be cut. Trading for him gives the Texans the chance to get him before he hits the open market. I think if no one gives the Bills a 4th, they would take our 5th rather than let Moulds go for nothing.
Remember, we got exactly squat for Sharper and Glenn last year.
If I remember correctly, one of Moulds biggest gripes was the play calling of the Bills coach. If Kubiak can convince him somehow that he's going to be happy with what the team does, then that would help a lot in my opinion. Also, I don't see how waiting for a younger player to develop or step up helps Carr in the short run. Would you want him to be wondering if a guy with limited experience as a starter might make a mistake, or would you want him to be confident that the chances of something bad happening are slim? I prefer the second.
Señor Stan
El Guapo
Rubix Kube said:Imagine if we ended up 2-14 even with Pace. Ugh, we wouldn't have the #1 pick to show all of our hard work during the 2005 season.Maybe we would have won a few more games with Pace but I doubt it as bad as our defense was last year.
And we would lost our first rounder last year. That would mean no trade with the Saints and no second 3rd rounder this year.
That would leave us without the #1 and #66 picks this year.
outofhnd
Rookie
Man A 4th round pick for a receiver tha can do what bradford could not and thats catch the friggin ball. Andre is an all pro #1 but when you have butterfingers bradford opposite him, how can he beat the defense? if we sign moulds I dunno if there would be a #1 or 2 reciever it would just be whoever is open. Plus next year we play the Bills in our house, Id Love to see Moulds scorch them with a 7 for 100yd day and a score. Moulds is an amazing wideout who is frustrated. Wouldnt you be if every season you had a different QB and 0 chance of making the playoffs? Buffalo for the last 10 years has 2 bad seasons then they have a season where you think they have turned the corner, then its 2 bad seasons again. if we get moulds that would rock now we just need to see how the protection holds, and the playaction bootleg passes work for DC and the rest of our offense.
A very reliable source from Philly just said that Greg Johnson (agent) is on the local radio station up there indicating that the only reason that he's not signed with the Eagles yet is that he has strong ties to Houston. Johnson also indicated that the decision will be made very soon.
The Dude Abides
Veteran
TEXANS84 said:
I'm in no way doubting that, but what ties does he have to Houston? He's from Mississippi, which is kind of close, but did he play for any of these coaches, have a house here or anything?
old football fan
Waterboy
Remember that about only 50% of 4th rounders ever make it in the NFL.Bsacamano said:
HoustonTexans
Practice Squad
^^ i live kinda close to rhode island... does that mean i have strong ties there? Well, i hope thats the way moulds feels because we need him.
bdiddy
Waterboy
TEXANS84 said:
Pure Speculation
The Eagles are only offering a 6th round choice and less money than the Texans are willing to give Moulds. This is the delay. For what I have heard he is leaning towards the Texans, and the Bills are much more comfortable dealing him to the Texans than the Eagles.
All of these might be correct, but I would still make the deal. I think all of us know those first four picks are important and this deal allows you to pick the best available player. Even if Moulds turns into a 60 catch, 750 yard reciever that is still better than anything we have had at that spot. If he does it for two seasons then you can delay picking a WR for another season.
The Dude Abides
Veteran
With the addition of Moulds and Bush from the draft we could have a lineup at one point of...
Johnson Pitts-McKinney-Flanagan-Wiegert-Wade-Putzier Moulds
Carr
(2 Back Set)
Bush Davis
That would pose some serious problems for all teams. (If they can work on that protection)
Johnson Pitts-McKinney-Flanagan-Wiegert-Wade-Putzier Moulds
Carr
(2 Back Set)
Bush Davis
That would pose some serious problems for all teams. (If they can work on that protection)
Porky
Hall of Fame
The Dude Abides said:
I don't think Wade starts. He just doesn't fit the scheme. I am hoping we draft a RG or RT to start, maybe even as a rookie. If not, we might be looking at Wand, or potentially sliding Weigert out to RT and figuring out who could play RG...Weary perhaps. Not ideal, so I hope we draft a guy. If we pick up Moulds, I have to believe we are just about finished picking up any other significant pieces prior to the draft.
Come on CC and Kubes, let's get Moulds!
The Dude Abides
Veteran
Porky said:I don't think Wade starts. He just doesn't fit the scheme. I am hoping we draft a RG or RT to start, maybe even as a rookie. If not, we might be looking at Wand, or potentially sliding Weigert out to RT and figuring out who could play RG...Weary perhaps. Not ideal, so I hope we draft a guy. If we pick up Moulds, I have to believe we are just about finished picking up any other significant pieces prior to the draft.
Come on CC and Kubes, let's get Moulds!
Ok, well for offensive weapons he would have a lot of options to look at
TEXANRED
Texan-American
Do you know what has been missing from our receiving core the last four years? Veteran leadership. Who have we had? Bradford? Yea right. Moulds is a solid #1 receiver, he can catch, he can get open, (which none of the receiving core has done in four years) he brings a swagger. I don't care how old he is cause he is in great shape and I am willing to bet he still runs the 40 in the 4.5's.
He is a tremendous upgrade to our receiving core. He is better than Gaffney is or ever will be, and Gaffney cost us the #33 overall. Moulds is going to be a second day draft pick. May even bring a little competition between him and AJ.
Carr, AJ, Moulds, Putzier, DD, Bush.....
If this D could be a middle of the pack, say 14/15, we could make a serious run at the playoffs.
He is a tremendous upgrade to our receiving core. He is better than Gaffney is or ever will be, and Gaffney cost us the #33 overall. Moulds is going to be a second day draft pick. May even bring a little competition between him and AJ.
Carr, AJ, Moulds, Putzier, DD, Bush.....
If this D could be a middle of the pack, say 14/15, we could make a serious run at the playoffs.
texanfan2002114
Veteran
Mark Berman said on Fox 26 tonight, that Greg Johnson (agent) said the talks with the Texans are going smoothly and all they need to do is, and I quote "Dot the I's and cross the T's".
From the sounds of it, Moulds will be a Texan by the end of the week!!
From the sounds of it, Moulds will be a Texan by the end of the week!!
kiwitexansfan
Hall of Fame
TEXANRED said:
Can I just ask something here... isn't Moulds bellyaching and demanding a trade.... is that asny sort of veteran leadership that you would want??
TexanFan881
All Pro
texanfan2002114 said:
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Damn, when Mcnair said he wanted to win NOW, he wasn't kidding.
We have been one of the most active teams during this offseason.
If we hit on our first 4 picks in the draft, we can be a very DANGEROUS team this season.
We have been one of the most active teams during this offseason.
If we hit on our first 4 picks in the draft, we can be a very DANGEROUS team this season.
Texans Pride
Veteran
texanfan2002114 said:Mark Berman said on Fox 26 tonight, that Greg Johnson (agent) said the talks with the Texans are going smoothly and all they need to do is, and I quote "Dot the I's and cross the T's".
From the sounds of it, Moulds will be a Texan by the end of the week!!
Nice post Steve. . . I keep searching for news, but can't find anything.
Hey, I am giving you some verbal reputation points. . . I keep trying to give you some, but it says I need to "spread the love around" before giving you anymore. . . Even though the last time I gave you some rep points was during the War of 1812!
You've been providing some good info the last few weeks. . .way to go bud!
texanfan2002114
Veteran
Texans Pride said:
Thanks Brother!! Its good to know that I'm not making people mad anymore!!
Texans Pride
Veteran
I think you stopped that when you quit whining about when you were getting your Seattle tickets. . .Whoops, did I say that lol
The Dude Abides said:
Don't forget Mathis in the slot. The Texans offensive skill players would be one of the tops of the league. Just Imagine the speed on that field. I hope Coach Kubes doesn't hold any plays back, he better open that playbook of his so open that it nearly rips.
The Dude Abides
Veteran
MasterC25 said:
Yeah, but I had to only put 11 people on the field. If you're going for more speed you could take either Davis or Putzier out.