I was referring to speculation about his 4.5 on his Pro Day
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Houston Texans 2024 OTA’s and Mandatory Mini Camp
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According to your own statement 'all PD 40 times are suspect'.
So clearly you think the 4.65 was suspect.
The speculation was over whether or not he really ran as high as a 4.65, because people who've watched his tape know he plays much faster than that. That's when multiple NFL personnel said they timed him closer to 4.5-4.51. Making the 4.65 even more questionable.
You wanna sum a player's eval and prospects up all by one data point that you yourself consider 'suspect' versus the 3 years of tape of the same player being dominant in the most competitive conference in college football marking the best opposition from one saturday to the next all the way through and including the highest of leverage situations like conference championship, playoff, and national title games.. well, if that's your best method, be my guest bud. I'll go with what I've seen on tape and what the most benefit of the doubt people like DeMeco have to say in choosing the guy.
Good talk though.
BS, post of the day.
Apparently you missed the part of my post where I said I could care less.
Aren't they doing that? My understanding is that they are at the facility just not on the field
Texansballer74
The Marine
Now we’re taking shots now. Nothing about my post was BS. You’re on here botching about a few elite veterans not participating in voluntary camp is BS.
And apparently you do care because you’re repeating your darn self ever freaking day.
Finally every team’s playbook is quite similar.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I have high hopes for this message board this season.
We haven’t had any mandatory OTAs and it seems we are in mid-season form.
Championship!
badboy
Hall of Fame
Skins beat the shirts one to nothing.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
I’m sure they got playbooks a long time ago and are in consistent contact with the coaches and teammates.
Matter of fact on the radio they said Hunter was at the facility during otas he just wasn’t out on the field. He lives in Houston so Im almost positive he’s been around.
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High hopes for this message board?
The expectations are going to be so high, the childish squabbling by the usual suspects here will render this place unreadable by mid-season. But, if I missed the sarcasm, congrats, you’ve upped your game.
Mangler
Toro de España
If they eventually go to 20 games a season, I’m almost positive each team will have two bye weeks. If you told me that I’d make $10M+ a year but I had to play 20 games a season I would still say HellPhookYes and sign the contract!
I really don’t care if someone misses a non mandatory practice.
Would be nice if the new guys were team building every second they can but people have lives.
Interesting that Azeez Al-Shaair was there and he probably has a greater grasp on Demeco’s D than our current players.
Would be nice if the new guys were team building every second they can but people have lives.
Interesting that Azeez Al-Shaair was there and he probably has a greater grasp on Demeco’s D than our current players.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Eliminate preseason altogether in favor of controlled scrimmages. I realize the first couple of games may be a little rough but I think it’s already the case because coaches hold out a lot of starters. Then go to a 20 game schedule with two bye weeks - one during the first half and another in the second half. So basically a 22 week season.
I do think 20 is the absolute limit, and they should never go beyond it, but I think it can be done.
I do think 20 is the absolute limit, and they should never go beyond it, but I think it can be done.
Porky
Hall of Fame
To whom much is given, much is expected. Tunsil should be in the building. How much is he making again? If he’s not on the field, totally understandable, but as the leader of the line, I’d like him to set the bar high. That said…not the end of the world. It’s just off-season fodder to mash it up with you guys. The others not there right now…really not a big deal in my eyes especially if they are around the building.
cland
Rookie
Agreed, Tunsil has been doing his own workouts for several years. He knows the system, so I'm of the "if it works don't fix it" mindset.
Texansballer74
The Marine
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The Texans were sued in 2009 for Illegal contact drills allowed in 2008 OTAs............as three Texans were injured during those drills.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Yes, two bye weeks is what I heard also.
They also had a much improved ol that yr after Alex Gibbs took over. Well worth the money IMHO.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
20 games, should make it 2 10 game seasons with winners facing off in post season or such. If you suck in a 20 game season, long time with no hope
Number19
Hall of Fame
So, 20 game season with no preseason games? How will coaches evaluate players under game conditions? For vets this may not be a big deal, but when you have multiple young players vying for playing/starting time? And with contact being limited in training camp and during the season?
I'm in agreement that TV revenue and betting is changing the game and not for the better. But there are a lot of blankedty blank fans willing to shell out those greenbacks, so there's no turning back.
Not advocating for a 20-game season, like at all. I think it's a f*ck*ng terrible idea, in fact. I also don't think it'll happen any time soon.
That said, the NCAA doesn't play a preseason. Spring practices, intra-squad spring game, more practices, and straight into a regular season schedule.
And they've got a lot more than a 53-man roster to build for, from incoming freshman to and through seniors, and constant portal transfers.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Not disagreeing with the improvement with Gibbs...............but I was responding to the rest of your post.
What would be the incentive for teams that locked up a playoff berth in the first half season to make an effort in the 2nd season?
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
Furthermore it looks like non-mandatory OTA’s are going away as early as 2025 anyway.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Would it not be the same as it is now if a team had locked up the playoffs after 10 games?
'We want to put defenses in a bind': Texans preparing to deploy WR trio of Diggs, Collins, Dell
Houston coach DeMeco Ryans ready to open up the playbook with Stefon Diggs, Nico Collins and Tank Dell.
Even though Diggs wasn't at the Texans' second OTA, he has been present at other offseason activities.
"It's been really fun working with Diggs," Ryans said. "You talk about a guy who's dialed in, a guy who loves football. It's been fun to work with him. It's been fun just to see the chemistry that starts to build in our locker room with him, our quarterback, the other receivers, offensive players, defensive players. He's going to be a really great fit with what we do here."
Stroud and Diggs have found time through the offseason to build chemistry. Shortly after Houston traded for Diggs, Stroud led a training session with Diggs -- along with players such as John Metchie III, Dell and others -- in Los Angeles.
"[Diggs] adds a ton of value to that room," Stroud said. "There's a lot of wisdom that he carries that I think he'll spread to the other guys. He's been reaching out to really everybody, and I think that whole room in general is going to be great. I think we're all going to feed off of each other. It's going to be very fun and very exciting just to work with everybody in that room, and I'm very excited for it."
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
"We want to put defenses in binds, and I think with those three guys it allows us to do that because they are so different, and they can all do different things," Ryans said. "But at the end of the day, they are all explosive finishers with the football, and that is what makes those guys great players. They can win on third down, and they can finish and get in the end zone, and that's what we look for at all skill positions on offense."'We want to put defenses in a bind': Texans preparing to deploy WR trio of Diggs, Collins, Dell
Houston coach DeMeco Ryans ready to open up the playbook with Stefon Diggs, Nico Collins and Tank Dell.www.espn.com
Even though Diggs wasn't at the Texans' second OTA, he has been present at other offseason activities.
"It's been really fun working with Diggs," Ryans said. "You talk about a guy who's dialed in, a guy who loves football. It's been fun to work with him. It's been fun just to see the chemistry that starts to build in our locker room with him, our quarterback, the other receivers, offensive players, defensive players. He's going to be a really great fit with what we do here."
Stroud and Diggs have found time through the offseason to build chemistry. Shortly after Houston traded for Diggs, Stroud led a training session with Diggs -- along with players such as John Metchie III, Dell and others -- in Los Angeles.
"[Diggs] adds a ton of value to that room," Stroud said. "There's a lot of wisdom that he carries that I think he'll spread to the other guys. He's been reaching out to really everybody, and I think that whole room in general is going to be great. I think we're all going to feed off of each other. It's going to be very fun and very exciting just to work with everybody in that room, and I'm very excited for it."
Whew! What a sigh of relief!
Diggs and Stroud have built chemistry. I was afraid they wouldn’t have enough time because Diggs wasn’t on the field at OTAs.
Championship!
It's never happened. But I guess it could be.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
seeding, paychecks, being a professional. I have not worked out the details, just think one 20 game is too long. Just spit balling
Agreed, but like everything else in today's NFL it's going to eventually happen. There's too much money out there for it not to happen. Hopefully they have 2 bye weeks and expand the rosters by 5 or so players.
That's just too much digging into the customers pockets. Fans wanted the expanded playoffs. More regular season games? I don't see the appetite for that.
Porky
Hall of Fame
I don’t understand why they can’t carry all 53 on game day. Like why do some have to be inactiv? I’ve racked my brain multiple times trying to understand it but haven’t made sense of it yet. If the guy makes the team he should suit up and be available to play.
TexansFan15
All Pro
I’ve been absent for a few weeks. How’s everyone looking in OTA’s? Anything stand out?
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
It was real shaky at first.
Diggs wasn’t at OTAs. People were worried about chemistry. But it turns out Stroud, Diggs and Metchie got together after the trade and get chemistry. They are all mad scientists now. And Diggs has been in the building during OTAs and doing other things.
Bullet dodged.
Yes - sarcasm.
badboy
Hall of Fame
18 games with 60 player active plus increase practice squad. 7 x 32= 224 new jobs would get NFLPA attention and older vets could see a way to hang around to pad their pension.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Just stroll through the entire thread and all the information is there.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Collins traded for a round 2. Stroud borrowed a training table and asked for a room at Houstonian hotel.
Diggs showed up at OTAs to announce retirement. Howard and Kenyon Green placed on season ending IR.
Tunsil was caught in unannounced urine test with quaaludes to help him slow that left foot coming off LOS.
Cal forced Nick to sign Steve Nelson if Steve agreed to wear a Nick vest over his uniform.
Danielle Hunter said he's going by Danny to decrease questions.
Will Anderson debuted his new sack dance " let's go crazy!" as he plays Prince air guitar.
Momma McNair is still not taking calls from son Cary but was heard mumbling "I should have taken that pacifier away when he turned 14.."
No.. it has been relatively quiet and you've not missed anything.
A 3rd QB should be mandatory and all 53 should be active.
If a third QB is mandatory, the roster should be at least 54
Porky
Hall of Fame
I’m not sure if I’d make a 3rd QB mandatory but I fail to understand why all 53 players on a roster can’t suit up and be available for each game. I have always assumed there was some clear cut reason. Other than forcing coaches to keep guys in street clothes that they are paying to play…I haven’t come up with a reason. Obviously there is one or the rule wouldn’t exist. Doesn’t make any sense to me. Maybe someone else has an idea…
Injuries is the answer. To eliminate an advantage one team may have over another by having fewer injuries. Often, teams won't have 53 guys available to play. So limiting the number of active players on game day negates the disadvantage of the team with more injuries.