Friends give friends their opinions on work things.
So do you just not like the fact that CnD has inside sources and would you prefer that he not give us his well informed opinions?
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So do you just not like the fact that CnD has inside sources and would you prefer that he not give us his well informed opinions?
This is true and probably will be the case with C.J.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
A better CJ???
League, look out!
Texansballer74
The Marine
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
i come from a family of several doctors. The way I understand it is this… Discussing a “patient” is one thing but to discuss -Stroud- without his consent… absolutely a
violation of HIPPA.
Not saying CnD broke HIPPA either. No idea how their conversation went.
Texansballer74
The Marine
If your friend tell you something in confidence, you should not disclose that information no matter what. The Texans organization said he wasn’t concussed. The way things are these days, don’t you know how much trouble they could have gotten themselves into?
You didn't answer my question and I'm pretty sure no laws were broken here, although I'm not a lawyer or a doctor.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Your question was irrelevant that’s why I didn’t answer it. I have no qualms with CnD so please don’t attempt to make it as such.
What I do know is the Texans said he wasn’t concussed. That was not in their report. They have no reason to lie about any of their players injury. Especially their new franchise quarterback. Do you honestly believe they’re going pull a stunt like that after the crap they went through with Watson? Come on people
It is very relevant.
Yes, teams do lie about concussions and have incentive to do so.
I can see we think very differently when it comes to the level of trust when it comes to info that NFL teams give to the public.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Bear with me. Sometimes I need repeating. Hearing/speech problems and all.
All good Nitro. I have a cousin that is deaf. Mom had measles while pregnant and that apparently caused a birth defect. She’s my age so almost 60 now. Due to that, she has major speech problems but I can almost always understand her. I always wished I had learned sign language. I find it fascinating. She taught me the I love you sign, but I know almost nothing beyond that. Thanks for being a friend!
CloakNNNdagger
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I reviewed the video.
The rain made exact interpretation less possible. What I did notice was that his footwork was not his typical, especially when dropping back and especially under pressure. This continued into the 2nd half when the rain let up. His cognitive decision-making in the game could be seen as atypical for him in that there were at least 3 of his passes that should have been intercepted but were not. But again, the rain factor made validity of interpretation regarding the potential of post concussion effects very questionable. Not to say they weren't present.......just that they could not be validated under the conditions.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Houston Strip Clubs Was the Reason Why Stefon Diggs Joined the Texans, Claims NFL Analyst Jason Whitlock
What's the truth behind Stefon Diggs' tale of two cities, and two quarterbacks. Jason Whitlock reveals the real reason behind his move.
www.essentiallysports.com
Stephen A. Smith Destroyed Jason Whitlock. Here’s Why He Deserved It.
The ESPN commentator gave the industry pariah his just desserts in a Wednesday podcast.
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dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
Houston Strip Clubs Was the Reason Why Stefon Diggs Joined the Texans, Claims NFL Analyst Jason Whitlock
What's the truth behind Stefon Diggs' tale of two cities, and two quarterbacks. Jason Whitlock reveals the real reason behind his move.www.essentiallysports.com
Stephen A. Smith Destroyed Jason Whitlock. Here’s Why He Deserved It.
The ESPN commentator gave the industry pariah his just desserts in a Wednesday podcast.
Wow! I thought the Steven a Smith podcast was in response to what Whitlock said about Diggs... otherwise, there is no way I would have clicked on that blowhard's podcast to listen... Well, I listened to as much as I could.. it is horrible!!! and it isn't related to Diggs but just some pissing contest between those two. AVOID! Who can stand to listen to him?!
badboy
Hall of Fame
I agree however do not know anything about Jason Whitlock and wanted to present a prior history between him and another guy I do not like.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Mangler
Toro de España
Can’t blame that one on the crappy field. The late hit/slam by that one dude is what did it. Cant believe they didn’t even flag him.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Diggs is like any other trade, if he proves worthy of it, it was a good trade. If not, well, we've been down that road before. Personally, I think Diggs will really help the offense. And if he's a Satan worshiper and sacrifices kittens on an alter it'll show up at some point. 
TexansBull
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Houston Strip Clubs Was the Reason Why Stefon Diggs Joined the Texans, Claims NFL Analyst Jason Whitlock
What's the truth behind Stefon Diggs' tale of two cities, and two quarterbacks. Jason Whitlock reveals the real reason behind his move.www.essentiallysports.com
From link
Should we be proud? I feel like we should be proud.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
James Harden made Houston a Top 5 town in something during his time here...
Texansballer74
The Marine
This was a top 5 town way before James Harden.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Never pass up the chance to make James Harden jokes...
badboy
Hall of Fame
I guess. As long as he does not try to replace Derek Watson
badboy
Hall of Fame
Warren Moon did his part also.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
He looks -good- wearing that helmet! Let’s effin’ gooooooo, Texans!!!!
Texansballer74
The Marine
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
problem is that type of stuff is against the law....IF his "inside sources" are passing that info along to him about the specifics of these patients' injuries..HIPPAA. Now if its just his opinion on the injuries and he's just expanding on what he knows about those types of injuries from his experience..which is what i'm pretty sure he's doing, it's all good.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Vegas
Atlanta
Toronto
New York
..............Houston? Are we really known like that for stip clubs? I don't think so.
But its been a minute since I was on that scene in the late 90's early 2000's. & I don't recall ours being all that...naked chicks in 1 spot is the same as every other place to me...Now if you're 1 of those dudes where all the girls know you by name b/c you think they're into you................................. & really its just b/c you're in there all the time and they know you're a very heavy tipper....& you eat lunch and dinner in there at the buffets...then i guess we're tops.
Texansballer74
The Marine
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Hey if going to strip clubs and doing whatever it is a big star with lots of money does in there with consenting adults is his thing then more power to him. We've, of course, had far worse at our star player positions.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
I’m someone who worked at the strip clubs for years as a valet attendant. I can absolutely tell you that Houston -is- a premiere strip club town. It goes hand in hand with international businesses that come to Houston to do business. Similar to how Houston is an incredibly diverse foodie town.
As for folks trying to downplay someone’s character for attending those type of places… bleh. Many of my customers were incredible human beings. Everyone has different reasons for choosing strip clubs… especially out-of-towners… and it’s not always to cheat on their wife or whatever.
Side note… no I didn’t go to those clubs as a customer. Not my style,
As for folks trying to downplay someone’s character for attending those type of places… bleh. Many of my customers were incredible human beings. Everyone has different reasons for choosing strip clubs… especially out-of-towners… and it’s not always to cheat on their wife or whatever.
Side note… no I didn’t go to those clubs as a customer. Not my style,
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
lol.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Not a cancer:
Will newly-acquired Stefon Diggs be difficult for Texans? ESPN insider gives insight on WR's past
Yes, the Stefon Diggs trade opens up the Texans offense more than it already has. But should fans worry about a conduct problem? An ESPN NFL insider cleared the air with ABC13.abc13.com
I mean that paragraph explaining what happened in Minnesota and Buffalo makes it seem like he's a ticking time bomb primadonna *****, but hey. Usually players like that who are that good who bounce around have some sort of issue.
I have hopes that he'll be good. Gary Sheffield had the same concerns before he came to Atlanta and he was a model citizen then.
Diggs (3 teams in 10 seasons) hasn't bounced around as much as Brandin Cooks (5 teams in 10 seasons). So Diggs has got that going for him.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I haven't weighed in on this topic yet but here goes.
As an alpha type receiver, Diggs will expect to get the lions share of the ball and probably rightfully so, but he should also realize he is the new boy in town here and we already have two excellent receivers.
I hope he is more focused on winning games and letting CJ go where the defense has let one of the other guys get open. Gotta move the chains first and foremost.
Let CJ play his natural game of distributing the ball - that is what he is good at otherwise you might force him to play a different style of game.
Iow, we want him to continue to develop his full compliment of skills and not be forced into trying to get the ball to one player all the time.
Gotta look after your home boys too...
dalemurphy
Hall of Fame
and, he isn't Jack Easterby's boy.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Cloak is not Stroud's physician.. HIPPA would be directed at a person directly treating Stroud.. (Cloak would be considered a 3rd party) aka... anyone else with a source.. I actually like having a source or anyone who can accurately guide me through the bullshit that's called a "Texans/NFL injury report", just saying. Don't kill the messenger
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Texansballer74
The Marine
Doc is not the only one who knows people who either works for the Texans or cover them. And I wasn’t killing the messenger either. What I do know is the Texans organization is operating totally different from years past. And no way their going to jeopardize or compromise their stuff again.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Yeah we know, but the bigger question is.. Did they? I mean they are the ones who settled for undisclosed millions just a few years ago..
I don't think this is a Texans thing though.. it's a NFL thing, they wrote lawer b.s... started a "screening process" (that they don't enforce) to protect them from liability in the future. Anyone who has ever been concussed, knocked out, or has had his "bell rung".. knows that was a concussion. What the video again.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I’ve played this game and I have had a few myself. But like I said they’re not going to lie about that and they surly wouldn’t have allowed him to go back in the game.
You honestly believe after all they been through, they would lie about an injury report about their newly franchise quarterback?
They were scrutinized big time for the way they handled D-Chump and two Head Coaches. So we’re going to go back down that rabbit hole. Highly doubt
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
My don't kill the messenger comment wasn't directed at you personally. This guy gets way too much flak and crap for just sharing his insight and medical expertise. I hope all of what you say is true, I'm a Texans fan so regarding the medical staff specifically.
I really hope it's true. I have seen this medical staff take short cuts throughout it's entire history to our franchise players which ultimately cut their career dominance short. They cut Andre's hamstring, wasn't the same player after that. They kept allowing Watt to be "superman" in meaningless games when it was obvious to a layman that was stupid as hell.
The people who dog on the guy don't admit he's wright about 90% of the time when it comes to the injury prognosis vs Texans/NFL staffs.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I didn't play the game outside of youth league.. I boxed, C.J. had refs point to his sidelines like they had to direct him to his corner while his "corner men" team physicians had to come get his ass before the fight was called.. He DEFINITELY was concussed
I don't like Mike Florio, search me talking about him (I normally don't agree with him), but he's spot on here
YES!!!Again, not a Texans thing, it's the way the league operates.
I think the HIPPA reference was concerning the guys treating Stroud. If they discussed Stroud with anyone not in the need to know, it would be a violation. If any of those people in the need to know discussed Stroud with anyone else, that would be a violation.
What happens in the tent stays in the tent... or at least it should.
Texansballer74
The Marine
The league has cracked down on stuff like that. They just put a new rule in place. They’re very serious about concussion because of all the legal battles over the years from ex players.I didn't play the game outside of youth league.. I boxed, C.J. had refs point to his sidelines like they had to direct him to his corner while his "corner men" team physicians had to come get his ass before the fight was called.. He DEFINITELY was concussed
I don't like Mike Florio, search me talking about him (I normally don't agree with him), but he's spot on here
Again, not a Texans thing, it's the way the league operates.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
... And that's why they put up the lawyer concussion protocol they have now. They keep changing rules, but their own rules allowed a player who was basically drug off a field, get hit again next week and miss multiple weeks.
I think C.J. has earned Brady/Manning rules this season.. He's not a rookie anymore, I expect to see a fart directed at him called a personal foul this season.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Another guy I feel the exact same way about. Always something with that guy.
NitroGSXR
Super Sic #58
My comment was directed at the doctors treating Stroud.