Come On Breh
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so this thread was moved but the kubiak names matt schaub starter isnt.
i see how its gonna be around here.
i see how its gonna be around here.
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so this thread was moved but the kubiak names matt schaub starter isnt.
i see how its gonna be around here.
so this thread was moved but the kubiak names matt schaub starter isnt.
i see how its gonna be around here.
You haven't been getting the hint so far. Go destroy some other forum please.so this thread was moved but the kubiak names matt schaub starter isnt.
i see how its gonna be around here.
You haven't been getting the hint so far. Go destroy some other forum please.
That thread has a lot of conversation over Kubiak as well as Schaub. The Sage thread has to do with Schaub, but Sage as well
To be truthful, I have never really liked Schaub. I wanted Rosenfels to start when he was here. I always liked him. Even after the Rosencopter game, which I was muttering obscenities as I was leaving Reliant Stadium, I still respected him.
Sage had a Greek Tragedy type of aura around him. He had balls and wanted to make plays for his team. Schaub doesn't have those things. What was "tragic" was his talent did not allow for him to actually make the plays his body and mind wanted him to do.
To be truthful, I have never really liked Schaub. I wanted Rosenfels to start when he was here. I always liked him. Even after the Rosencopter game, which I was muttering obscenities as I was leaving Reliant Stadium, I still respected him.
Sage had a Greek Tragedy type of aura around him. He had balls and wanted to make plays for his team. Schaub doesn't have those things. What was "tragic" was his talent did not allow for him to actually make the plays his body and mind wanted him to do.
Sage = Oedipus
Schaub = Agamemnon
I've been studying for Classical Civ too long
I always liked him. Even after the Rosencopter game, which I was muttering obscenities as I was leaving Reliant Stadium, I still respected him.
I think that rosecopter game did him in though. That was his shot and I think if he makes that play or doesn't fumble, it would have been hard to justify starting Schaub after that.
Its a good read, but it's nothing that everyone who has an ounce of football knowledge didn't already know...mentally he's a mess right now & after the SF game...i'm not sure he'll ever make it back...
Interesting insight on his situation. Basically he says Matt is going to have to mentally get past his mistakes to get back to playing well. Playing guarded and conservative is only going to lead to more simple costly mistakes. So what I take from that is we need to let'er rip and come out rockin. I personally would like to see more bombs and big play attempts.
Looks like Bro has left the building.
For the record I totally refuse to call him breh
Guys on the radio (I can't remember who) were saying that Schaub hasn't thrown 3 INTs in a game since 2009 (I think). So we know he's had bad games before & gotten past it. But this is something totally different. The pick6, then the pick6 in 4 consecutive games, then that we're 1-4 in those games.
I know people don't want to hear it, but the only way to really get him out of it, without going back into his shell, is for the defense & the run game to pick up the slack.
He needs to make better decisions, but he also needs to stay aggressive & the only way that can happen is if we win in spite of the pick 6. None of the offenses we've faced aren't really playing very well. Sure we're making it easy for them, giving them the short field. But if we were to eliminate the long TD scoring drives, we win those games.
Schaub should remain under intense scrutiny, I'm not saying any different. But if we believe he must "play-through" it, I'm sure winning would go a long way. Stop thinking about mistakes & losing & focus on winning. He had ample opportunity to win the game in Seattle, even after the pick 6. He didn't.
You haven't been getting the hint so far. Go destroy some other forum please.
Nah, he's done & its time to move on simply b/c the majority of the fan base has turned on him....and every time this guy makes a mistake he has the potential to go into streaks like this from here on out.. Even if we turn this season around, the only situation in which i can see Schaub here next year is if we win the SB this season with him at the helm......and suffice it to say, that's likely not happening....its time this franchise settled the qb position...we've got to go after someone high in the draft...regardless of how this season pans out....this is the draft to do it.
Nah, he's done & its time to move on simply b/c the majority of the fan base has turned on him....and every time this guy makes a mistake he has the potential to go into streaks like this from here on out.. Even if we turn this season around, the only situation in which i can see Schaub here next year is if we win the SB this season with him at the helm......and suffice it to say, that's likely not happening....its time this franchise settled the qb position...we've got to go after someone high in the draft...regardless of how this season pans out....this is the draft to do it.
Yes, even with a SB win you go QB in the first round, and make a move to get into the top 12. There's 4-5 guys after Bridgewater that could pan out.
You open camp with an all out QB competition. Question is do you flat out cut Schaub or allow him to compete for the job?
Yes, even with a SB win you go QB in the first round, and make a move to get into the top 12. There's 4-5 guys after Bridgewater that could pan out.
You open camp with an all out QB competition. Question is do you flat out cut Schaub or allow him to compete for the job?
That should have been done last offseason/preseason. Next year, all it does is take away important 1st team reps from our potential QB of the future.
Last time the Texans decided to part ways with the franchise QB they replaced him and cut him shortly thereafter. I don't know if they would do that the same way this time or not. I understand they tried to trade Carr but there was no interest. Everyone knew he was going to be cut. If they start shopping Schaub even discreetly I think the same thing would happen. Someone would certainly be interested but everyone would realize that he was about to be a free agent and just wait.
I think that when they decide to move on from Schaub (assuming we're talking offseason move) there's zero chance he sticks around to compete for the starters spot.
Its gonna suck to eat that dead money. What will that figure be? Does it take away from the actual cap or is it just payed to Schaub and you still have full amount of cap to sign players?
Not that I would want to start Schaub but say he performs decent in camp, the team knowing all the while they will be going with Keenum or QB drafted and still Create a small market for Schaub in the process? Saying he won't be the QB whatsoever kinda shows your hand and you lose all leverage. Im just trying to think of best case scenario obviously, but crazy things happen during camp and a team or two could get desperate for a QB
Its gonna suck to eat that dead money. What will that figure be? Does it take away from the actual cap or is it just payed to Schaub and you still have full amount of cap to sign players?
Not that I would want to start Schaub but say he performs decent in camp, the team knowing all the while they will be going with Keenum or QB drafted and still Create a small market for Schaub in the process? Saying he won't be the QB whatsoever kinda shows your hand and you lose all leverage. Im just trying to think of best case scenario obviously, but crazy things happen during camp and a team or two could get desperate for a QB
Preseason won't show much of anything or prove much of anything if he plays out the way he has this season. It will not make him more "desirable" to us (at least I would hope not) or other teams. Bringing him back next year to compete as a STARTER will be as disruptive to the progress of this team as staying in close touch with a jealous Ex while trying to cultivate a new healthy relationship.
If Schaub is designated as a June 1st cut, the Texans would only be liable for the bonus allocation for 2014 (which is $3.5 million). The remaining $7 million in unallocated bonus would show on the 2015 cap. So the cap savings in 2014 in this scenario would be $14.5 million (salary + roster bonus + bonus allocation) - $3.5 million bonus allocation = $11 million in 2014 cap savings.Cut him or trade him after the 2013 season, and either way you're getting that $10.5 million hit.
... I'm worried we're going to only show up for a quarter or two again. Not a full 60 minutes like the elite teams do.
Not many teams that he would be able to play for successfully at this point in his career. It would have to be in a system a lot like ours. The Washington Redskins for example, would be the perfect fit, but they have two young quarterbacks that I'd rather have instead of an aging and slow Matt Schaub.do u think when we cut or trade schaub he will be a starter for any other team ...??????
True. The defense left it on the field. I was proud of their effort. Just a shame they are put in situations where the game is already decided and out of their hands. We could have beaten the Seahawks if we had just trusted our defense late in the game. Running the ball and punting, pinning them deep, with 2:50 or so left in the fourth quarter.You could make the argument that the Texans actually showed up for a full 60 minutes last week vs. the 49ers.
You could make the argument that the Texans actually showed up for a full 60 minutes last week vs. the 49ers.
True. The defense left it on the field. I was proud of their effort. Just a shame they are put in situations where the game is already decided and out of their hands. We could have beaten the Seahawks if we had just trusted our defense late in the game. Running the ball and punting, pinning them deep, with 2:50 or so left in the fourth quarter.
do u think when we cut or trade schaub he will be a starter for any other team ...??????
How much wiggle room for error does Matt Schaub have today? If he throws a pick six (5th game in a row) on our first offensive drive to put us behind 7-0, will Kubiak bench him fast or allow him to play through it?
Seems like we should dominate the Rams today and blow them out 45-6...
but I'm worried we're going to only show up for a quarter or two again. Not a full 60 minutes like the elite teams do.
do u think when we cut or trade schaub he will be a starter for any other team ...??????
Watching Game Day Morning on NFLN, and it was encouraging to hear everyone but Faulk agree you stick with Schaub. I fully expected Irvin to blast Schaub, but he surprised me. I know there are those here who think they have better insight than guys like them, but I will stick the Texans players who stand behind Schaub, and the former players from around the league who have also agreed you stick it out with Schaub.
If Schaub struggles today, I support benching him for part of the game if need be, or even the entire game should he throw another Pick 6, but I firmly stand behind the guy, and have confidence he can get out of this funk with the help of his teammates who all need to step up their game in the coming weeks.
Good Luck Matt!
I don't know how long his leash is with the coaches but the fans are holding him by the collar.
He's going to be booed his first errant throw and extended booing on his first 3 and out. If he throws another INT....who knows.
Will the Texans sign Vince Young or Tim Tebow tomorrow? Or perhaps start Case Keenum at Kansas City next Sunday? At 2-4, I just want a reason to be excited until we draft Johnny Manziel or Aaron Murray in April.