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All Encompassing Matt Schaub Thread

legacy_gt said:
in defense to schaub, matt did good moving the ball.
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the object is to score TDs. The stalling in the redzone may be because MS does not throw to right receiver. TD's early could have made a difference.
We do not see the plays to know what the QB should do vs what he actually does. He either may not see the receiver or he is afraid to make the throw.
 
gafftop said:
the object is to score TDs. The stalling in the redzone may be because MS does not throw to right receiver. TD's early could have made a difference.
We do not see the plays to know what the QB should do vs what he actually does. He either may not see the receiver or he is afraid to make the throw.
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He's definitely afraid to throw been like that for a long time man.
 
Same OL' Matt as he's always been. When guys aren't getting wide open down field from the play action he struggled to finish drives. Yeah we can move the ball. So what.

Kubiak lost this team sticking with Schaub. I guarantee if Matt doesn't play next game, this team will play a lot better. Guys will be energized.

The season is over, but we need to start working towards next year. It's about building for the future at this point.
 
One of the announcers made a statement today , one that I have made multiple times in the past few weeks - Schaub's footwork is bad.


That is amplified when he has to move off his spot. He's damaged goods.


How bout Yates today ?! 2 INT's - one returned for a 98 yard score.


Who wants Yates next week ?!



Downside here is its going to fuel the Keenum fires ..... (Tho at this point , I wouldn't mind seeing Keenum get a shot).
 
Corrosion said:
One of the announcers made a statement today , one that I have made multiple times in the past few weeks - Schaub's footwork is bad.


That is amplified when he has to move off his spot. He's damaged goods.


How bout Yates today ?! 2 INT's - one returned for a 98 yard score.


Who wants Yates next week ?!



Downside here is its going to fuel the Keenum fires ..... (Tho at this point , I wouldn't mind seeing Keenum get a shot).
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I want to see keenum, but I will settle for Yates.

I think if he goes into the week as the starter he'll play better and I think the team will play better knowing that Schaub won't be there.
 
Corrosion said:
Downside here is its going to fuel the Keenum fires ..... (Tho at this point , I wouldn't mind seeing Keenum get a shot).
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I don't see the downside. The Texans need to see what they have at QB before moving forward. The answer may be zilch, but we don't know that for sure.
 
Lucky said:
I don't see the downside. The Texans need to see what they have at QB before moving forward. The answer may be zilch, but we don't know that for sure.
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That's my thoughts on all this.

At least give guys a chance to prove themselves. We know that Schaub is not good enough. Yates has shown he likely isn't either. But I'd give both a shot in the remaining games.
 
no matter who we see out there we will have those maddening array of short crossing routes, Andre not targeted in the end zone, and QB's afraid to make a back shoulder pass, or throw a guy open because of the Stalag 8 rule of take no chances. Eventually teams come to the conclusion that the Texans are not going to take a chance deep unless it's a play action pass, so they squat on the short crossing routes. The only way this ironic Texans offense works is if we have the lead. Otherwise it's friggin' yakety sax.
 
since he already suffered the injury, i hope hes done for the season tbh. the season was already a waste coming into it with matt. this is the only way to force people to make decisions.. yates looks like he will struggle, case will get a shot.. the worst that happens is the pro-schaub crowd get to beat their chests because he is indeed better than his backups.. congrats.. qb heavy draft next year, if we ignore that and draft to help schaub i will lose it..
 
I didn't see this posted anywhere and we could all use a laugh. Mods merge if you must but I think it is worthy of its own thread just because I was laughing by the end of it. We all know about the schaub burger but she added a few burgers to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1uW6ipXYfM

LMAO@

The Rothelsburger and the Dalton Burger. Of course at the Romo burger.

Mike
 
Atl Cav said:
Don't like my opinion?
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Those threads were adding no value as a stand alone thread due to the trolling material and lack of insight. There are plenty of threads to show your joy for the Texans lament, and your loyalty to a singular player.

This thread will be deleted shortly.
 
I'm still convinced you're Matt Schaub and/or his relative.

Atl(Falcons) Cav(University of Virginia)

Joined: Mar 2007.....the time Matt was traded for.
 
Just a flipping minuter. I have been a Texans fan as long as most on here. I am frustrated Matt got thrown under the bus, and you don't allow me to opine?
I am sorry you feel that way.

Let me ask you, would we be 2-7 with Matt starting? Or should I ask permission to inquire?
 
Atl Cav said:
I issued a valid opinion, and my post was deleted.
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I can't find a deleted post in the system under your name tonight pards. I figure its drinking, smoking, any number of Rx pills or just some mania that made you refresh your page instead of posting your opinion.
 
Vinny said:
I can't find a deleted post in the system under your name tonight pards. I figure its drinking, smoking, any number of Rx pills or just some mania that made you refresh your page instead of posting your opinion.
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It is in the recycle bin - two threads
 
Trap_Star said:
I'm still convinced you're Matt Schaub and/or his relative.

Atl(Falcons) Cav(University of Virginia)

Joined: Mar 2007.....the time Matt was traded for.
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Yes, I have TOLD you this before. Your memory must be short. I came here as a new fan when Matt was signed. And I have been here all along. I believe Matt let all of us down for a few games, but he still had shown he could win.
But if Matt had not been stomped on I think wed still be in the hunt.
Disagree all you want, but the facts are on my side.

Im still a fan, and was silent when he was benched....But to what end?

SOrry if I disturbed the wisdom of the Board.
 
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Vinny said:
can i say "jinx" or is that too gay?
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The latter.
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Vinny said:
I can't find a deleted post in the system under your name tonight pards. I figure its drinking, smoking, any number of Rx pills or just some mania that made you refresh your page instead of posting your opinion.
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Sorry, I am on an airplane and the feed is delayed.
 
Trap_Star said:
You sitting next to Case right now, Matt?

Tell him that at least he didn't throw a pick 6 today, please. k-thanx.
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An obvious reply, and I understand he lost his cool. But I wanted more from this season. I felt our best shot was Matt, and it's so frustrating to be 2-7. Never saw it coming.
 
Atl Cav said:
Sorry, I am on an airplane and the feed is delayed.
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Matt, I'm about to activate my real estate license and jump in the hot Houston market.

Can I list your house? If you can talk Gary and Coach Joe into letting me list theirs too I'll cut 1% off my commission on yours!
 
If you want to talk about Schaub you are free to do so and to have any opinion you want. Do it in the All Encompassing Matt Schaub thread.
 
Vinny said:
r u drunk? elohel
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I'm drunk! Just guessing but Texan Bill is probably drunk. So please delete this post, any other posts I have made tonight; and yeah, you should think about deleting any posts Texan Bill has made tonight. Or pretty much any night. No offense Texan Bill, luv u.
 
It's not that i want to see Schaub come back in & start b/c i dont....he's done for sure. i just find it funny how people are pointing to Keenum's stats like "see, i told you he's good" even though we still only play 1/2 of a game.

When folks tried to point towards stats with Schaub it was "well, this is a qb friendly system..." or "Kubiak/AJ/Foster are making him look good.." etc. etc.

I'm also finding it funny how every excuse in the book is coming out in defense of Keenum but you couldn't get anyone on this board to consider all that stuff for Schaub. I told people when all this started, most times, guys don't fall over the hill right before your eyes like Schaub did this season....there's more to it than just Schaub's poor play.....Now since Case has been starting it's more on:

-the o-line
-the coaching
-the defense
-the special teams

The reality of it is, Schaub had to deal with all of that too & he likely felt pressure to try to do more than he was capable of at times. & 10 year vet or not, no qb can function under siege like our qb's have had to for basically 2 years now. You add in the awful coaching & outdated scheme & you get "business as usual" in terms of this team's success record wise & terrible 2nd halves.

I say all this to say that you can't have it both ways. Yes, Case isn't turning the ball over in epic fashion like Schaub was towards the end, but he's yet to show that he can overcome the same set of circumstances that ultimately contributed to the demise of Schaub.
 
Considering we couldn't stop a single blitz, nor made any attempt to make adjustments, Schaub would've ended up in a body cast. Keenum at least has an excuse for being unable to read blitzes. Schaub's been in the league a long time and still can't.
 
HOU-TEX said:
Considering we couldn't stop a single blitz, nor made any attempt to make adjustments, Schaub would've ended up in a body cast. Keenum at least has an excuse for being unable to read blitzes. Schaub's been in the league a long time and still can't.
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When have we been able to stop the blitz?
 
HOU-TEX said:
Considering we couldn't stop a single blitz, nor made any attempt to make adjustments, Schaub would've ended up in a body cast. Keenum at least has an excuse for being unable to read blitzes. Schaub's been in the league a long time and still can't.
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This is just silly....according to what alot of Keenum supporters were saying reading the defense was a strong suit of Keenum's skill....afterall, he did it alot at Uof H...:rolleyes: I thought that his mobility & him extending plays with his feet was what was going to prevent him from getting sacked too much? This type of simplified analysis of the position (& has been going on) is why fans often get fooled into thinking a guy is the real deal when he's not.

Nothing Keenum saw yesterday was any worse than what Schaub saw against Tennessee or SD this year. Sure he didn't throw any picks, but lets be real here, we know he should've had at least 2..he was lucky in that regard...

pressure & blitzing bothers every single qb in the league...especially pressure coming up the middle right in your face. Only the elite can handle it consistently well. so it's no surprise that Keenum has struggled with being blitzed & pressured. Why schaub continues to be singled-out here for his inability to handle it consistently is beyond me.

You guys....
 
Mr teX said:
This is just silly....according to what alot of Keenum supporters were saying reading the defense was a strong suit of Keenum's skill....afterall, he did it alot at Uof H...:rolleyes: I thought that his mobility & him extending plays with his feet was what was going to prevent him from getting sacked too much? This type of simplified analysis of the position (& has been going on) is why fans often get fooled into thinking a guy is the real deal when he's not.

Nothing Keenum saw yesterday was any worse than what Schaub saw against Tennessee or SD this year. Sure he didn't throw any picks, but lets be real here, we know he should've had at least 2..he was lucky in that regard...

pressure & blitzing bothers every single qb in the league...especially pressure coming up the middle right in your face. Only the elite can handle it consistently well. so it's no surprise that Keenum has struggled with being blitzed & pressured. Why schaub continues to be singled-out here for his inability to handle it consistently is beyond me.

You guys....
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I think what kills Keenum right now is the one thing Schaub seems to have that Case doesn't. Experience.

You only get it one way and that can sometimes be ugly. If the game doesn't appear to slow down for him by the end of the year I think we may still be looking for a QB. We have 7 more games for him to learn to settle down and handle the pressure better. One thing was all know whether we're Keenum fans or not is that once teams realize you can't handle the pressure they're going to bring you all of it they can manage.

After he plays the rest of the season we'll be able to make a fair assessment of what we're seeing in Case Keenum.

Whether we will actually do it or not remains to be seen.
 
Should we go back and "be real" about the picks Schaub almost threw too?

I can't take a lot of y'all seriously. Some folks judge keenum more harshly than they judged Matt and dude just made his third start without the head coach and normal play caller present.
 
Rey said:
Should we go back and "be real" about the picks Schaub almost threw too?

I can't take a lot of y'all seriously. Some folks judge keenum more harshly than they judged Matt and dude just made his third start without the head coach and normal play caller present.
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Yes you can go back and be real about the picks Schaub almost threw. Its simply being realistic to look at yesterdays game and how Case got very lucky so when people talk about him not throwing picks its not as though some help wasnt on his side. Thats not judging anyone more harshly than another its just reality
 
Rey said:
Should we go back and "be real" about the picks Schaub almost threw too?

I can't take a lot of y'all seriously. Some folks judge keenum more harshly than they judged Matt and dude just made his third start without the head coach and normal play caller present.
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Rep! And there's a lot more to beating the blitz than just recognizing the blitz. There's play calling and audibles, none of which Keenum has had the benefit of or the ability to utilize, due to the intrinsic nature of Gary's offense.

Moreover, yesterday we saw Case motion both Tate and Johnson to the side the blitz was coming from, to no avail. You're simply not going to beat the blitz unless you call blitz beating plays. It didn't happen.
 
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