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2nd round DJ Swearinger

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Vinny said:
I'm off topic here (my bad) but wanted to answer this...sure. It's called having an opinion. He has every right to get better, stay the same or get worse. The opinion is altered once new evidence is presented. That's why we make these forums....for our "judgments/opinions" about players, coaches, teams or strategies. We could always just run with what ESPN tells us though.
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ESPN is talking about Hopkins?

I didn't say no one should have an opinion, I was just saying it is stupid to try and knock on a WR that has been in the league for 1 year
 
Came across what I found interesting from PFF.
Sig Stats: Run Stop Percentage, DBs
Gordon McGuinness | July 30, 2014

Safeties (All Plays) – The Top Five

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There are two ways in which we look at safeties and we’ll start with all plays regardless of where they line up on the field. In this regard, it’s the Houston Texans’ D.J. Swearinger leading the way but, like Porter at cornerback, he saw his overall grade against the run take a big hit with eight missed tackles. That’s something that can be improved upon, though, and if it does we could see an impressive second season from him.
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Swearinger will have to pick up his coverage and tackling skills (too many critical missed tackles after the catch), though, if he is to become a well-balanced safety factor.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Came across what I found interesting from PFF.
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Swearinger will have to pick up his coverage and tackling skills (too many critical missed tackles after the catch), though, if he is to become a well-balanced safety factor.
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Well I hope he becomes a great player, because outside of him and Hopkins last year's draft is looking like a complete wash.
 
I might be a bit critical of DJ and hope he does get better, but last season he wasn't much more than a box safety. A Roy Williams type
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Came across what I found interesting from PFF.
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Swearinger will have to pick up his coverage and tackling skills (too many critical missed tackles after the catch), though, if he is to become a well-balanced safety factor.
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No offense CnD, but looking at the kind of criticism you've assessed on Swearinger, I get the feeling people forget he was a rookie. Like they expected him to be Ed Reed (the HOF Ed Reed) from day 1, when Ed Reed wasn't that good from day 1.

Yes Swag has a lot to improve on but from listening to him talk, he's well aware of it & he's working in that direction.
 
thunderkyss said:
No offense CnD, but looking at the kind of criticism you've assessed on Swearinger, I get the feeling people forget he was a rookie. Like they expected him to be Ed Reed (the HOF Ed Reed) from day 1, when Ed Reed wasn't that good from day 1.

Yes Swag has a lot to improve on but from listening to him talk, he's well aware of it & he's working in that direction.
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And he has completely bought into what this staff is selling. O brien calling him out to be a leader publically says a ton IMO
 
thunderkyss said:
No offense CnD, but looking at the kind of criticism you've assessed on Swearinger, I get the feeling people forget he was a rookie. Like they expected him to be Ed Reed (the HOF Ed Reed) from day 1, when Ed Reed wasn't that good from day 1.

Yes Swag has a lot to improve on but from listening to him talk, he's well aware of it & he's working in that direction.
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I have no idea how you got the idea I directed harsh criticism towards Swearinger. I simply pointed out what he would need to work on to be the safety he, the team and fans want him to be.

He was placed close to the box by Wade a great deal of the time after Cushing went down to try and plug the run stop sieve. As teams are showing more and more shotgun, it will not be surprising to me to see what we seen in college.....a lot of the 3 safety formations.

As a side note, on some of those whiffed tackles he actually did emulate the 2013 version of HOF Ed Reed. :)
 
I'm a swearinger fan. A big swearinger fan. He and Hopkins were easily my two favorite picks from their draft. Followed by griffin and jones.

Some of those other guys had potential, iiwii right now.

Swagg needs to become a better tackler. More under control. Take the big shots, but be true.

Coverage....that's another area. But I think he's pretty fundamental, but he needs to just refine it.
 
People keep talking about the ineptitude of Brandon Harris, and rightfully so, but swag boy has been nearly as bad. In the first drive alone, he gave up huge plays to let the Cards convert first downs. It's not even that he was beat, he was horribly beaten or completely lost. On one play, he completely turned around in what appeared to be short zone coverage and the ball was promptly placed where it appeared he was supposed to be. It's not a good deal when your inside cover guys are consistently beat and I am concerned that we are in for a lot of that this year.
 
TexansSeminole said:
People keep talking about the ineptitude of Brandon Harris, and rightfully so, but swag boy has been nearly as bad. In the first drive alone, he gave up huge plays to let the Cards concert first downs. It's not even that he was beat, he was horribly beaten or completely lost. It's not a good deal when your inside cover guys are consistently beat and I am concerned that we are in for a lot of that this year.
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I believe one of his knocks out of college was being over aggressive this misreading plays
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Swearinger is still my guy.
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I was happy about the potential, but watching him is damn hard. He needs to pull a complete 180 here in the next few weeks or we are really in for some hurt. I'm already convinced that Harris is going to be consistently beat in the slot.

PHILLYTEXANFAN said:
I believe one of his knocks out of college was being over aggressive this misreading plays
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And that honestly would be one thing, where he bites on a fake or goes for the INT when in zone but misses. Turning your back to the QB in what appeared to be short zone is just terrible play.
 
TexansSeminole said:
I was happy about the potential, but watching him is damn hard. He needs to pull a complete 180 here in the next few weeks or we are really in for some hurt. I'm already convinced that Harris is going to be consistently beat in the slot.
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Kareem is supposed to be playing in the slot now.

Harris already looks to have been bumped down the depth chart. Bouye was practicing ahead of him today.

As far as swearinger goes...two systems in two years...not great in pass coverage. Has to really work at it due to physical limitations. But I think if he can get zoned in and master this defense he'll be a plus player.


He's got about a year to prove himself. Maybe if he's really that bad they'll find someone to take his spot sooner than later.

Just saying I still like him as the ss.

But the way I feel about players abilities won't cloud my judgement. I'll call em like I see em and when it's time to move on, so be it.
 
TexansSeminole said:
People keep talking about the ineptitude of Brandon Harris, and rightfully so, but swag boy has been nearly as bad. In the first drive alone, he gave up huge plays to let the Cards convert first downs. It's not even that he was beat, he was horribly beaten or completely lost. On one play, he completely turned around in what appeared to be short zone coverage and the ball was promptly placed where it appeared he was supposed to be. It's not a good deal when your inside cover guys are consistently beat and I am concerned that we are in for a lot of that this year.
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TexansSeminole said:
I was happy about the potential, but watching him is damn hard. He needs to pull a complete 180 here in the next few weeks or we are really in for some hurt. I'm already convinced that Harris is going to be consistently beat in the slot.



And that honestly would be one thing, where he bites on a fake or goes for the INT when in zone but misses. Turning your back to the QB in what appeared to be short zone is just terrible play.
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There have been times that the CB's and other safety have left him hanging, also. DB play is so damned hard to judge because we, as fans, have no idea of who should've been doing what 90% of the time.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Kareem is supposed to be playing in the slot now.

Harris already looks to have been bumped down the depth chart. Bouye was practicing ahead of him today.

As far as swearinger goes...two systems in two years...not great in pass coverage. Has to really work at it due to physical limitations. But I think if he can get zoned in and master this defense he'll be a plus player.


He's got about a year to prove himself. Maybe if he's really that bad they'll find someone to take his spot sooner than later.

Just saying I still like him as the ss.

But the way I feel about players abilities won't cloud my judgement. I'll call em like I see em and when it's time to move on, so be it.
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I love the passion and the big hits DJ brings, but he needs to have a bit less swag and a bit more lunchbox. Like someone else posted, make the big hit, but be true to proper tackling. Shoulder chucks don't knock down many NFL players. They show up on ESPN for all the wrong reasons.
Very valid point about 2 systems in 2 years. The guy's head has to be spinning right now. If he can show some discipline, I'll be happy with him.
 
Did anyone else catch his post on Twitter right after the game Saturday? Had a Vine video of his special teams hit that could easily have been a penalty. Bragging it up.

Completely ignored the fact his team just got curb stomped 32-0
 
DX-TEX said:
Did anyone else catch his post on Twitter right after the game Saturday? Had a Vine video of his special teams hit that could easily have been a penalty. Bragging it up.

Completely ignored the fact his team just got curb stomped 32-0
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He's just trying to be the best teammate he can be
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DX-TEX said:
Did anyone else catch his post on Twitter right after the game Saturday? Had a Vine video of his special teams hit that could easily have been a penalty. Bragging it up.

Completely ignored the fact his team just got curb stomped 32-0
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When you want a team with more Bad Boy than Choir Boy, you have to take both the good and bad parts of the Bad Boys. Let's hope his good outweighs his bad this season. Dude has a LOT of swagger, so it may be tough.
 
DX-TEX said:
Did anyone else catch his post on Twitter right after the game Saturday? Had a Vine video of his special teams hit that could easily have been a penalty. Bragging it up.

Completely ignored the fact his team just got curb stomped 32-0
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Jungle Boi Swag isn't the smartest. He's also taking Instagram selfie videos while driving sooo.....

xtruroyaltyx said:
Kareem is supposed to be playing in the slot now.

Harris already looks to have been bumped down the depth chart. Bouye was practicing ahead of him today.

As far as swearinger goes...two systems in two years...not great in pass coverage. Has to really work at it due to physical limitations. But I think if he can get zoned in and master this defense he'll be a plus player.


He's got about a year to prove himself. Maybe if he's really that bad they'll find someone to take his spot sooner than later.

Just saying I still like him as the ss.

But the way I feel about players abilities won't cloud my judgement. I'll call em like I see em and when it's time to move on, so be it.
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I like the idea of Kareem in the slot on some downs. We've always liked his ability to play the short stuff and that's what he will be doing there most of the time.
 
sandman said:
When you want a team with more Bad Boy than Choir Boy, you have to take both the good and bad parts of the Bad Boys. Let's hope his good outweighs his bad this season. Dude has a LOT of swagger, so it may be tough.
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"Swagger" can be quite counterproductive when not tempered with some intelligence.
 
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D.J. Swearinger not fined for hit


Updated: August 29, 2014, 9:30 PM ET

By Tania Ganguli | ESPN.com


HOUSTON -- Texans safety D.J. Swearinger was not fined for a hit on Broncos receiver Wes Welker that drew a penalty last weekend, Swearinger told ESPN.com on Thursday night.

The safety made the hit with his shoulder but wound up colliding with Welker's head. The hit caused Welker's third concussion in nine months and he immediately left the game.

Denver quarterback Peyton Manning was so upset about the hit that he yelled at Swearinger, who is in his second season out of South Carolina, following the next play. Then, Manning received the first taunting penalty of his career. Manning was fined $8,268 for the taunt, sources told ESPN's Chris Mortensen.

"I believe that that particular hit was a bang-bang play where he was leading with his shoulder and at the last second Welk caught the pass and kind of ducked to make sure that he was protecting himself on the hit and it ended up being a shoulder into the head/neck area," Texans coach Bill O'Brien said Friday. "It was a very bang-bang play. Like I said last week, D.J. was not trying to do harm to anybody. D.J., in our building, has a good reputation as a guy that works extremely hard."

An NFL spokesman confirmed Friday that Swearinger drew no fine for the play.
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EllisUnit said:
i think it is the right call, not DJs fault that Welker ducked after he caught the ball and DJs shoulder hit his head
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Great non-fine. I'm shocked by it but very happy. The 15 yards was more than enough punishment.
 
disaacks3 said:
Nick Wright was betting he'd say something to get himself in trouble. How's he doing so far?
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xtruroyaltyx said:
I was half listening, half working...But I didn't hear anything that would get him in trouble. Seemed to come of pretty well from what I heard.
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Every time I turn around, DJ's on the radio - has a weekly show on 97.5, and it seems like he shows up on both 610 and 790 more than the station his show is on.

He's had ample opportunities to get himself in trouble, and I'm not aware of anything so far. Don't know why anyone would be expecting it today.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Every time I turn around, DJ's on the radio - has a weekly show on 97.5, and it seems like he shows up on both 610 and 790 more than the station his show is on.

He's had ample opportunities to get himself in trouble, and I'm not aware of anything so far. Don't know why anyone would be expecting it today.
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He was just trying to hook listeners.

I don't know how it works, but I'd suspect his show gets credit for the ratings that Texans Radio pulls during his time slot (if someone knows differently, correct me).
 
nero THE zero said:
He was just trying to hook listeners.

I don't know how it works, but I'd suspect his show gets credit for the ratings that Texans Radio pulls during his time slot (if someone knows differently, correct me).
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If they'd fire Wright's a$$ that would go a long way toward improving the quality of the station
 
I like Wright better than Innes--I think he is infinitely more knowledgeable about sports--but he does have that same shock jock element to his schtick that Innes did/does, which I dislike.

Honestly, I think Houston sports radio is in a really weird place right now with all of its best programming in the lunch time slots.
 
nero THE zero said:
I like Wright better than Innes--I think he is infinitely more knowledgeable about sports--but he does have that same shock jock element to his schtick that Innes did/does, which I dislike.

Honestly, I think Houston sports radio is in a really weird place right now with all of its best programming in the lunch time slots.
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Yup. That's the only time I listen. I like Payne and they're usually always talking football.

Wright's an asshat. Lopez is a clueless brown noser. I can handle the afternoon every once in a while. Rich Lord should retire
 
nero THE zero said:
I like Wright better than Innes--I think he is infinitely more knowledgeable about sports--but he does have that same shock jock element to his schtick that Innes did/does, which I dislike.

Honestly, I think Houston sports radio is in a really weird place right now with all of its best programming in the lunch time slots.
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I agree but wonder if the quality of the program has anything to do with the length of time. The lunch slots seem to get to the point where as Lance Z (who i really enjoy 90% of the time) is doing improv skits every segment now.
 
nero THE zero said:
I like Wright better than Innes--I think he is infinitely more knowledgeable about sports--but he does have that same shock jock element to his schtick that Innes did/does, which I dislike.

Honestly, I think Houston sports radio is in a really weird place right now with all of its best programming in the lunch time slots.
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I liked Wright in the beginning. Then he started his holier than though crap. Payne and Meltser work really good together. My favorite was the Fred and Ted show. Then a listener got Fred fired. I don't like Ted nearly as much with Lord and Pendergast.
 
jtexas said:
I agree but wonder if the quality of the program has anything to do with the length of time. The lunch slots seem to get to the point where as Lance Z (who i really enjoy 90% of the time) is doing improv skits every segment now.
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I'm a huge fan of Lance, but no so much most of his characters. Still, I'd rather listen to any of those characters than Adam Clanton, so whatever it takes to reduce Clanton's airtime I'm all for.
 
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