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The Texans record against the teams in our division in the O'Brian era.
Jaguars 9/2 .818
Titans 7/3 .700
Colts 4/6 .400
I posted this before but here it is again.
Division 20/11 .645
Other 23/28 .451
What's OB's winning percentage against teams .500 or better ?
This is for teams above 500 (winning records)
11/27 .289
To break it down further:
Division: 4/8 .333
AFC not in Division: 5/12 .294
NFC 2/7 .222
This does not include this season or playoffs.
I think the Jags beat the Broncos. They are Broncos in name only. Their defense is not what we have been used to
So, essentially a smidge above .500 overall or mediocre.I posted this before but here it is again.
Division 20/11 .645
Other 23/28 .451
I think a little context is important.
In the Belichick era, the Patriots are 75-35 against teams who ended with a winning record. That's .625. And that is insane.
The next highest team over that period is the Steelers who are at .440.
O'Brien's 0.289 number includes years with [Name Redacted] and Ryan Mallet as his QB. That number is bad and needs to improve, but if he raises that number to 0.45, we'll be a top echelon team.
I think a little context is important.
In the Belichick era, the Patriots are 75-35 against teams who ended with a winning record. That's .625. And that is insane.
The next highest team over that period is the Steelers who are at .440.
O'Brien's 0.289 number includes years with [Name Redacted] and Ryan Mallet as his QB. That number is bad and needs to improve, but if he raises that number to 0.45, we'll be a top echelon team.
I wish people would stop trying to use excuses to validate their point. Especially when dude hand picked those type of players to be his starting quarterbacks. So make the skit work.
I don't agree with that.
That's comparison is just too wide scoped.
Comparing NE , who's won 6 Superbowls and 12 AFC Championship game appearances to any other team over that span is just flawed. (Normal) Teams just don't stay that good that long ….
I think you have to break it down further - Pittsburg won two Superbowls with their current QB , the only QB in the league other than Brady & Eli to have won multiples and haven't been "Elite" for the duration. They've had ups and downs like other teams despite having a quality QB.
You really have to look at each season independently or at most a 2-3 year span with "Normal teams".
NE's sustained success may be what the world is shooting for but its really an unrealistic comparison.
The elite teams change over a 2-3 year span …. Better to look at those individual seasons teams are in the conference title game as a comparison for what elite is.
And I wish people would stop cherry-picking sentences from my replies so they can ***** and moan but here we are.
I didn't cherry picked ****. You tried to use a lame ash excuse to validate why Bill O'Brien stat is 0.289. Bwhahaha he hand picked those two because they were familiar with the system he wanted to employ.
NE's sustained success may be what the world is shooting for but its really an unrealistic comparison.
The elite teams change over a 2-3 year span …. Better to look at those individual seasons teams are in the conference title game as a comparison for what elite is.
I think a little context is important.
In the Belichick era, the Patriots are 75-35 against teams who ended with a winning record. That's .625. And that is insane.
The next highest team over that period is the Steelers who are at .440.
O'Brien's 0.289 number includes years with [Name Redacted] and Ryan Mallet as his QB. That number is bad and needs to improve, but if he raises that number to 0.45, we'll be a top echelon team.
I count only 7 games with teams over 500.So, last year, during the regular season, against teams that ended the season over 500, the teams that were in the championship game shook out like this:
Saints: 83%
Patriots: 71%
Rams: 63%
Chiefs: 43%
We were at 50%.
And just as a sidenote to stay on topic the Texans, Colts & Titans are all 2-2. The Jaguars are playing right now so we could end up with all 4 teams being 2-2.
So, last year, during the regular season, against teams that ended the season over 500, the teams that were in the championship game shook out like this:
Saints: 83%
Patriots: 71%
Rams: 63%
Chiefs: 43%
We were at 50%.
After week 3, here are the AFC South standings
Texans 2-1
Colts 2-1
Jaguars 1-2
Titans 1-2
The AFC South Division standings
Texans 1-0
Jaguars 1-1
Colts 1-0
Titans 0-2
Now on to week 4 and what could transpire this week.
The Texans take on the Panthers at home.
The Texans should be able to handle business in this one and come away with win #3.
Texans 3-1
The Raiders will be in Indianapolis to take on the Colts.
Jacoby will be without TY Hilton. He'll still get it done.
Colts 3-1
The Jaguars go to Denver to take on the Broncos.
The Jaguars will have a tough go of it at Mile High.
Jaguars 1-3
The Titans will be in Atlanta to take on the Falcons.
Atlanta will break through and get a win.
Titans 1-3
So after week 4, the record could look like this:
Texans 3-1
Colts 3-1
Titans 1-3
Jaguars 1-3
Since there are no divisional games, the division record won't change.
There’s no such thing as easiest anymore with this team. lolWell, the good is that out of the division we have by far the easiest week 5 matchup. However, given that the Chiefs are on deck any division lead may be short-lived.
I think a little context is important.
In the Belichick era, the Patriots are 75-35 against teams who ended with a winning record. That's .625. And that is insane.
The next highest team over that period is the Steelers who are at .440.
O'Brien's 0.289 number includes years with [Name Redacted] and Ryan Mallet as his QB. That number is bad and needs to improve, but if he raises that number to 0.45, we'll be a top echelon team.
We are 1-0 in the division. How about the others? I'd say watch out for Jacksonville. We won't win on their field. They will surprise many.All knotted up at 2-2.
No problem. The Texans are good at being the best of the worst in the AFC South and making the playoffs. It's just what happens after that seems to be the problem.
The AFC south is far from the worst, in fact it maybe the most balanced division because it doesn't have one or two teams that completely dominate it. East Pats have feasted on a weak division for a decade now, West was fairly competitive when Rivers was younger and pre-Mahomes but now its pretty much just the Chiefs and North has the Bengals and the Browns so its just been a trade off each year between the Steelers and Ravens as to who is going to win that one. South has had Texans and Colts trading blows but even the hags and the tits haven't been as bad as fins, browns, jets or bengals.
The AFC South was one of the weakest divisions until last year (especially without Luck and with Bortles).
The book is still open this year.
Indy seems to have found a good HC.
This says it all.
https://www.patriots.com/news/nfl-decade-standings-how-the-league-ranks-from-2010-2018
WIth two teams in the middle and two teams at the bottom, the AFC South was definitely underwhelmed.
The AFC South has been the weakest division in the AFC 2014 - 2018.People who think the AFC South is weak either 1. Dont know what they're talking about 2. Trying to use this to discredit what BOB has/will done/will do.
The AFC south has no team that is considered a contender, and none would be a favorite to win any other division.
You could be very wrong. Actually, every sports expert is saying that if the Texans can pull off against the Chiefs what they did to the Falcons, that they have put their team in the mix to not only contend, but go far in the playoffs.
Possibly even make it to the Super Bowl. Yes. The AFC South does have a team that some consider a contender. And as far as winning any other division, the Texans are starting to be considered on equal ground as teams like the Ravens, Chiefs and the Saints and could be better then the 49ers, Packers and Eagles. Of course the Chiefs and Patriots are on another level above the Texans, but you're looking completely wrong on all of your worthless, negative opinions. You're clearly the Anti-Texan on these boards.
We'll see where you are on these matters after this week. Your opinion might actually have to change whether you like it or not. We shall see.
You could be very wrong. Actually, every sports expert is saying that if the Texans can pull off against the Chiefs what they did to the Falcons, that they have put their team in the mix to not only contend, but go far in the playoffs.
Possibly even make it to the Super Bowl. Yes. The AFC South does have a team that some consider a contender. And as far as winning any other division, the Texans are starting to be considered on equal ground as teams like the Ravens, Chiefs and the Saints and could be better then the 49ers, Packers and Eagles. Of course the Chiefs and Patriots are on another level above the Texans, but you're looking completely wrong on all of your worthless, negative opinions. You're clearly the Anti-Texan on these boards.
We'll see where you are on these matters after this week. Your opinion might actually have to change whether you like it or not. We shall see.
You could be very wrong. Actually, every sports expert is saying that if the Texans can pull off against the Chiefs what they did to the Falcons, that they have put their team in the mix to not only contend, but go far in the playoffs.
Possibly even make it to the Super Bowl. Yes. The AFC South does have a team that some consider a contender. And as far as winning any other division, the Texans are starting to be considered on equal ground as teams like the Ravens, Chiefs and the Saints and could be better then the 49ers, Packers and Eagles. Of course the Chiefs and Patriots are on another level above the Texans, but you're looking completely wrong on all of your worthless, negative opinions. You're clearly the Anti-Texan on these boards.
We'll see where you are on these matters after this week. Your opinion might actually have to change whether you like it or not. We shall see.
Since I'm not a gambler, I could care less about betting and what Vegas says. I look at the teams the old fashioned way. Through the eyes of a fan. The Texans may just start passing the eye test. It started last week against the Falcons and could very well continue against the Chiefs. If it does, O'Brien may very well put the Texans in a position to go far. Maybe, just maybe he's actually learning something and changing his views offensively. It sure looked that way against the Falcons. The offense was simplified and Watson was running plays he had complete control of. Just maybe that could be the norm going forward instead of the exception. We shall see.I was just going by the odds in betting markets.
Texans are currently 2.2% to win the super bowl, 13th overall. And lowest for any division favorite I believe. Colts are 1.8%. Texans aren't even odds on favorites to win the division.
If the Texans are truly a contender, they are worth betting on.
Also, I'm not the one who calls Watson stupid, says the game has passed RAC by, or argues that watt isn't elite. Just being realistic based on outside sources on our chances.