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2019 AFC South Standings

mws

Waterboy
This is for teams above 500 (winning records)
11/27 .289

To break it down further:

Division: 4/8 .333
AFC not in Division: 5/12 .294
NFC 2/7 .222

This does not include this season or playoffs.
 

JamTex

Hall Of Fame Texans Fan!
After week 3, here are the AFC South standings

Texans 2-1
Colts 2-1
Jaguars 1-2
Titans 1-2

The AFC South Division standings

Texans 1-0
Jaguars 1-1
Colts 1-0
Titans 0-2

Now on to week 4 and what could transpire this week.

The Texans take on the Panthers at home.
The Texans should be able to handle business in this one and come away with win #3.
Texans 3-1

The Raiders will be in Indianapolis to take on the Colts.
Jacoby will be without TY Hilton. He'll still get it done.
Colts 3-1

The Jaguars go to Denver to take on the Broncos.
The Jaguars will have a tough go of it at Mile High.
Jaguars 1-3

The Titans will be in Atlanta to take on the Falcons.
Atlanta will break through and get a win.
Titans 1-3

So after week 4, the record could look like this:

Texans 3-1
Colts 3-1
Titans 1-3
Jaguars 1-3

Since there are no divisional games, the division record won't change.
 
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The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
I think a little context is important.

In the Belichick era, the Patriots are 75-35 against teams who ended with a winning record. That's .625. And that is insane.

The next highest team over that period is the Steelers who are at .440.

O'Brien's 0.289 number includes years with [Name Redacted] and Ryan Mallet as his QB. That number is bad and needs to improve, but if he raises that number to 0.45, we'll be a top echelon team.
 

Texansballer74

Hall of Fame
I think a little context is important.

In the Belichick era, the Patriots are 75-35 against teams who ended with a winning record. That's .625. And that is insane.

The next highest team over that period is the Steelers who are at .440.

O'Brien's 0.289 number includes years with [Name Redacted] and Ryan Mallet as his QB.
That number is bad and needs to improve, but if he raises that number to 0.45, we'll be a top echelon team.

I wish people would stop trying to use excuses to validate their point. Especially when dude hand picked those type of players to be his starting quarterbacks. So make the skit work.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
I think a little context is important.

In the Belichick era, the Patriots are 75-35 against teams who ended with a winning record. That's .625. And that is insane.

The next highest team over that period is the Steelers who are at .440.

O'Brien's 0.289 number includes years with [Name Redacted] and Ryan Mallet as his QB. That number is bad and needs to improve, but if he raises that number to 0.45, we'll be a top echelon team.
I don't agree with that.

That's comparison is just too wide scoped.

Comparing NE , who's won 6 Superbowls and 12 AFC Championship game appearances to any other team over that span is just flawed. (Normal) Teams just don't stay that good that long ….

I think you have to break it down further - Pittsburg won two Superbowls with their current QB , the only QB in the league other than Brady & Eli to have won multiples and haven't been "Elite" for the duration. They've had ups and downs like other teams despite having a quality QB.

You really have to look at each season independently or at most a 2-3 year span with "Normal teams".

NE's sustained success may be what the world is shooting for but its really an unrealistic comparison.

The elite teams change over a 2-3 year span …. Better to look at those individual seasons teams are in the conference title game as a comparison for what elite is.
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
I don't agree with that.

That's comparison is just too wide scoped.

Comparing NE , who's won 6 Superbowls and 12 AFC Championship game appearances to any other team over that span is just flawed. (Normal) Teams just don't stay that good that long ….

I think you have to break it down further - Pittsburg won two Superbowls with their current QB , the only QB in the league other than Brady & Eli to have won multiples and haven't been "Elite" for the duration. They've had ups and downs like other teams despite having a quality QB.

You really have to look at each season independently or at most a 2-3 year span with "Normal teams".

NE's sustained success may be what the world is shooting for but its really an unrealistic comparison.

The elite teams change over a 2-3 year span …. Better to look at those individual seasons teams are in the conference title game as a comparison for what elite is.
That's a great point. Those numbers aren't as readily available, but I'll see what I can do.
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
I didn't cherry picked ****. You tried to use a lame ash excuse to validate why Bill O'Brien stat is 0.289. Bwhahaha he hand picked those two because they were familiar with the system he wanted to employ.
Yeah, you're right. I was excusing him because of the QBs he had to work with. I was all, his numbers are great! He's a great coach! We should make him coach for life, gm for life, he's the next Belichick... Blah blah blah. That's your straw man.

No, I said that number is BAD and needs to improve. I wasn't excusing anyone. I was merely setting expectations.
 

The Pencil Neck

Hall of Fame
NE's sustained success may be what the world is shooting for but its really an unrealistic comparison.

The elite teams change over a 2-3 year span …. Better to look at those individual seasons teams are in the conference title game as a comparison for what elite is.
So, last year, during the regular season, against teams that ended the season over 500, the teams that were in the championship game shook out like this:
Saints: 83%
Patriots: 71%
Rams: 63%
Chiefs: 43%

We were at 50%.
 

thunderkyss

It's good to be me... again.
Staff member
Contributor's Club
I think a little context is important.

In the Belichick era, the Patriots are 75-35 against teams who ended with a winning record. That's .625. And that is insane.

The next highest team over that period is the Steelers who are at .440.

O'Brien's 0.289 number includes years with [Name Redacted] and Ryan Mallet as his QB. That number is bad and needs to improve, but if he raises that number to 0.45, we'll be a top echelon team.
Loving the context... so where does that .289 fall "over that period"?
 

mws

Waterboy
So, last year, during the regular season, against teams that ended the season over 500, the teams that were in the championship game shook out like this:
Saints: 83%
Patriots: 71%
Rams: 63%
Chiefs: 43%

We were at 50%.
I count only 7 games with teams over 500.
This was our record.
3/4 .429

Teams over 500 by year:

2014 - 8 Games, 2 Wins, 6 Losses, .250
2015 - 5 Games, 2 Wins, 3 Losses, .400
2016 - 8 Games, 3 Wins, 5 Losses, .375
2017 - 10 Games, 1 Win, 9 Losses, .100
2018 - 7 Games, 3 Wins, 4 Losses, .429

And just as a sidenote to stay on topic the Texans, Colts & Titans are all 2-2. The Jaguars are playing right now so we could end up with all 4 teams being 2-2.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
And just as a sidenote to stay on topic the Texans, Colts & Titans are all 2-2. The Jaguars are playing right now so we could end up with all 4 teams being 2-2.
The NFL Mediocre Division strikes again.
 

Corrosion

Idealist
Staff member
So, last year, during the regular season, against teams that ended the season over 500, the teams that were in the championship game shook out like this:
Saints: 83%
Patriots: 71%
Rams: 63%
Chiefs: 43%

We were at 50%.
The Texans were at 43% .... 3-4.


I think the bigger thing is comparing anyone to the Pats. They are a unicorn …. cant compare any team in the history of the league to them over a 17 year stretch.

Interesting that the Chiefs were also 3-4 against those .500+ teams. This year all the teams they have faced so far are .500 or better and they are 4-0.
Each team the Texans have played are also at least .500 and they are 2-2 …. .500.

Today's loss was disappointing , I think the better "team" lost …. outcoached again.
Watson had an off day , the OL was terrible again …. Tunsil may have had his worst game as a Texan , sure is looking like a huge overpay there - at least to this point.

The defense was pretty darn good …. Mercilus may play his way outa Houston's price range if he keeps this up.
 

KarlK

Waterboy
After week 3, here are the AFC South standings

Texans 2-1
Colts 2-1
Jaguars 1-2
Titans 1-2

The AFC South Division standings

Texans 1-0
Jaguars 1-1
Colts 1-0
Titans 0-2

Now on to week 4 and what could transpire this week.

The Texans take on the Panthers at home.
The Texans should be able to handle business in this one and come away with win #3.
Texans 3-1

The Raiders will be in Indianapolis to take on the Colts.
Jacoby will be without TY Hilton. He'll still get it done.
Colts 3-1

The Jaguars go to Denver to take on the Broncos.
The Jaguars will have a tough go of it at Mile High.
Jaguars 1-3

The Titans will be in Atlanta to take on the Falcons.
Atlanta will break through and get a win.
Titans 1-3

So after week 4, the record could look like this:

Texans 3-1
Colts 3-1
Titans 1-3
Jaguars 1-3

Since there are no divisional games, the division record won't change.
Boy you really nailed those, pal. You’re impressive.
 
Well, the good is that out of the division we have by far the easiest week 5 matchup. However, given that the Chiefs are on deck any division lead may be short-lived.
 

TexansBull

Hall of Fame
I think a little context is important.

In the Belichick era, the Patriots are 75-35 against teams who ended with a winning record. That's .625. And that is insane.

The next highest team over that period is the Steelers who are at .440.

O'Brien's 0.289 number includes years with [Name Redacted] and Ryan Mallet as his QB. That number is bad and needs to improve, but if he raises that number to 0.45, we'll be a top echelon team.
I would be interest to see OB vs Jeff Fisher. I think Jeff has him beat.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
No problem. The Texans are good at being the best of the worst in the AFC South and making the playoffs. It's just what happens after that seems to be the problem.
 
No problem. The Texans are good at being the best of the worst in the AFC South and making the playoffs. It's just what happens after that seems to be the problem.
The AFC south is far from the worst, in fact it maybe the most balanced division because it doesn't have one or two teams that completely dominate it. East Pats have feasted on a weak division for a decade now, West was fairly competitive when Rivers was younger and pre-Mahomes but now its pretty much just the Chiefs and North has the Bengals and the Browns so its just been a trade off each year between the Steelers and Ravens as to who is going to win that one. South has had Texans and Colts trading blows but even the hags and the tits haven't been as bad as fins, browns, jets or bengals.
 

JamTex

Hall Of Fame Texans Fan!
Before week 4 began

Texans 2-1
Colts 2-1
Jaguars 1-2
Titans 1-2

The AFC South Division standings

Texans 1-0
Jaguars 1-1
Colts 1-0
Titans 0-2

After week 4

Texans 2-2
Titans 2-2
Jaguars 2-2
Colts 2-2

The division standings didn't change since there wasn't a division game.

Falcons at Texans
The Texans should win this one, but with O'Brien at the helm, it's going to be a rough one. Texans should be 3-2 after this one.

Jaguars at Panthers
The Jaguars defense should help them big in this game and their shiny new quarterback, Gardner Minshew, will lead this offense right past the Jaguars. Jaguars could be 3-2 after this one.

Bill at Titans
The Bills are looking very good. The Titans are inconsistent. Since this game is in Tennessee the Titans get a slight edge. They might be able to pull this one off, but the Bills could go in there and torch them. It's a toss up. Let's just say the Bills win. After this game, the Titans could be 2-3.

Colts at Chiefs
The Chiefs will torch the Colts. After this one, the colts will be 2-3.

After week 5 this is how the records could look.

Texans 3-2
Jaguars 3-2
Titans 2-3
Colts 2-3

Since there are no division games this week, the division record will remain the same.
 

JamTex

Hall Of Fame Texans Fan!
After the Texans annihilated the Falcons, the Colts shocked the Chiefs, the Jaguars surprisingly lost to the Panthers and the Titans suffered a loss to the Bills , here is what the division looks like going into week 6.

Texans 3-2
Colts 3-2
Jaguars 2-3
Titans 2-3

Since there were no division games this week, the AFC South looks the same.

Texans 1-0
Colts 1-0
Jaguars 1-1
Titans 0-2

Texans at Chiefs
With the Texans going into Arrow Head Stadium against the Chiefs, this is going to to be a Watson fireworks show. The Colts gave the league the blue print for defeating the Chiefs and the Texans will expound on that. The Texans go up to 4-2 after this one.

The Colts get the week off so their record will remain at 3-2.

Saints at Jaguars
The Saints will go marchin' through the Jaguars. After this one, the Jaguars could be sitting at 2-4.

Titans at Broncos
The Titans will be going into Mile High against a reeling Broncos team that isn't very good. The Titans very well could come out of this one on top with a record of 3-3

So after week 6, this is what the AFC South could look like.

Texans 4-2
Colts 3-2
Titans 3-3
Jaguars 2-4

The AFC South again aren't playing any division games so the division record will remain the same.
 
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steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
The AFC south is far from the worst, in fact it maybe the most balanced division because it doesn't have one or two teams that completely dominate it. East Pats have feasted on a weak division for a decade now, West was fairly competitive when Rivers was younger and pre-Mahomes but now its pretty much just the Chiefs and North has the Bengals and the Browns so its just been a trade off each year between the Steelers and Ravens as to who is going to win that one. South has had Texans and Colts trading blows but even the hags and the tits haven't been as bad as fins, browns, jets or bengals.
Yep,

The AFC North/East are much worse divisions than the AFC South. There are no gimme's in he AFC South unlike those other divisions.

People who think the AFC South is weak either 1. Dont know what they're talking about 2. Trying to use this to discredit what BOB has/will done/will do.

There are plenty of reasons to not like BOB but using the division as a reason for wanting him gone isn't correct. Finally the long standing issues with the team on the OL have been taken care of and there's some depth at the skill positions. The Texans are only going to get better as they get more experience. The defense is lacking in depth particularly in the secondary and they need to stay healthy.
 
The AFC South was one of the weakest divisions until last year (especially without Luck and with Bortles).

The book is still open this year.
Indy seems to have found a good HC.

This says it all.
https://www.patriots.com/news/nfl-decade-standings-how-the-league-ranks-from-2010-2018

WIth two teams in the middle and two teams at the bottom, the AFC South was definitely underwhelmed.
Not saying that it wrong but that is the actual Pats website so I do question how unbiased they are. Also they are basing it solely on win and loses which actually highlights the point that they mostly during the regular season play against weak teams.
 

mws

Waterboy
People who think the AFC South is weak either 1. Dont know what they're talking about 2. Trying to use this to discredit what BOB has/will done/will do.
The AFC South has been the weakest division in the AFC 2014 - 2018.

Here are the numbers.

AFC East Record 2014 - 2018
166/154 .519

AFC North Record 2014 - 2018
155/161/4 .490

AFC South Record 2014 - 2018
141/179 .441

AFC West Record 2014 - 2018
169/151 .528

Something that surprised me was that the AFC North has had 4 ties during that period while none of the other divisions even had 1.

This also goes to help show it really is a 500 league.
 

TheKDog

Hall of Fame
The AFC south has no team that is considered a contender, and none would be a favorite to win any other division.
 

JamTex

Hall Of Fame Texans Fan!
The AFC south has no team that is considered a contender, and none would be a favorite to win any other division.
You could be very wrong. Actually, every sports expert is saying that if the Texans can pull off against the Chiefs what they did to the Falcons, that they have put their team in the mix to not only contend, but go far in the playoffs.
Possibly even make it to the Super Bowl. Yes. The AFC South does have a team that some consider a contender. And as far as winning any other division, the Texans are starting to be considered on equal ground as teams like the Ravens, Chiefs and the Saints and could be better then the 49ers, Packers and Eagles. Of course the Chiefs and Patriots are on another level above the Texans according to some, but you're looking completely wrong on all of your worthless, negative opinions. You're clearly the Anti-Texan on these boards.
We'll see where you are on these matters after this week. Your opinion might actually have to change whether you like it or not. We shall see.
 
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steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
You could be very wrong. Actually, every sports expert is saying that if the Texans can pull off against the Chiefs what they did to the Falcons, that they have put their team in the mix to not only contend, but go far in the playoffs.
Possibly even make it to the Super Bowl. Yes. The AFC South does have a team that some consider a contender. And as far as winning any other division, the Texans are starting to be considered on equal ground as teams like the Ravens, Chiefs and the Saints and could be better then the 49ers, Packers and Eagles. Of course the Chiefs and Patriots are on another level above the Texans, but you're looking completely wrong on all of your worthless, negative opinions. You're clearly the Anti-Texan on these boards.
We'll see where you are on these matters after this week. Your opinion might actually have to change whether you like it or not. We shall see.
If they won a SB and BOB was the HC his opinion wouldn't change.
 
You could be very wrong. Actually, every sports expert is saying that if the Texans can pull off against the Chiefs what they did to the Falcons, that they have put their team in the mix to not only contend, but go far in the playoffs.
Possibly even make it to the Super Bowl. Yes. The AFC South does have a team that some consider a contender. And as far as winning any other division, the Texans are starting to be considered on equal ground as teams like the Ravens, Chiefs and the Saints and could be better then the 49ers, Packers and Eagles. Of course the Chiefs and Patriots are on another level above the Texans, but you're looking completely wrong on all of your worthless, negative opinions. You're clearly the Anti-Texan on these boards.
We'll see where you are on these matters after this week. Your opinion might actually have to change whether you like it or not. We shall see.
Damn Jam not holding back. :bravo:

You're right though, IF the play calling is even close to what it was last week then yeah we could very well be walking away with a win on this one. Even putting the Texans aside the Colts, and it pains me to say, put a text book hurt on the Chiefs last week and showed the blueprint for how to shut them down. I'll grant you the tits and hags are B tier but even they are way better than the jets, fins and maybe even browns and raiders. Yet the narrative is that the AFC is the weakest and always will be.
 

TheKDog

Hall of Fame
You could be very wrong. Actually, every sports expert is saying that if the Texans can pull off against the Chiefs what they did to the Falcons, that they have put their team in the mix to not only contend, but go far in the playoffs.
Possibly even make it to the Super Bowl. Yes. The AFC South does have a team that some consider a contender. And as far as winning any other division, the Texans are starting to be considered on equal ground as teams like the Ravens, Chiefs and the Saints and could be better then the 49ers, Packers and Eagles. Of course the Chiefs and Patriots are on another level above the Texans, but you're looking completely wrong on all of your worthless, negative opinions. You're clearly the Anti-Texan on these boards.
We'll see where you are on these matters after this week. Your opinion might actually have to change whether you like it or not. We shall see.
I was just going by the odds in betting markets.

Texans are currently 2.2% to win the super bowl, 13th overall. And lowest for any division favorite I believe. Colts are 1.8%. Texans aren't even odds on favorites to win the division.

If the Texans are truly a contender, they are worth betting on.

Also, I'm not the one who calls Watson stupid, says the game has passed RAC by, or argues that watt isn't elite.

Just being realistic based on outside sources on our chances. It's ok to think the Texans are better than Vegas says, but I'm not going to be an unrealistic homer.
 

JamTex

Hall Of Fame Texans Fan!
I was just going by the odds in betting markets.

Texans are currently 2.2% to win the super bowl, 13th overall. And lowest for any division favorite I believe. Colts are 1.8%. Texans aren't even odds on favorites to win the division.

If the Texans are truly a contender, they are worth betting on.

Also, I'm not the one who calls Watson stupid, says the game has passed RAC by, or argues that watt isn't elite. Just being realistic based on outside sources on our chances.
Since I'm not a gambler, I could care less about betting and what Vegas says. I look at the teams the old fashioned way. Through the eyes of a fan. The Texans may just start passing the eye test. It started last week against the Falcons and could very well continue against the Chiefs. If it does, O'Brien may very well put the Texans in a position to go far. Maybe, just maybe he's actually learning something and changing his views offensively. It sure looked that way against the Falcons. The offense was simplified and Watson was running plays he had complete control of. Just maybe that could be the norm going forward instead of the exception. We shall see.
 

dream_team

All Pro
Everyone keeps using this term "contender", but what does it really mean? The Texans have a very good chance of making playoffs yet again. Shouldn't that make them a contender? Or is it something more? Is it some high expectation that only 4 teams in the league would qualify as a "contender"?
 


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