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Do they gradually work CJ in or does he start the opener?

sandman

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I see 2021-2022 as cleaning the cap, was he unable to sign, re-sign anybody he wanted on the team?

The S-2 thing bothers me but was that Caserio or Cal, Hannah mandating the pick? I know Cal denies this, but I don't believe him. If true and Stroud is a Caserio pick and not a Cal, Hannah,Ryans pick then Caserio should be fired because he will have sentenced the franchise to mediocrity.
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DocBar

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I believe the Texans when they say he will have to earn the starting job, but I don't see what Mills or Keenum bring to the table that would keep Stroud from being the Game 1 starter. We already saw how this gradual scenario played out with Savage and Watson.
That Savage/Watson thing was with Capt. Dysfunctional running the show.
I hope the Texans start whichever QB gives them the best chance to win week 1.
 

steelbtexan

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How many young qbs started off with a Keenan Allen, Mike Williams and Austin Ekler along with the talent on defense? It doesn't have to be a speed or te, which Chargers have had somewhat, but what about having a chain mover like Allen and Eckler? Then the traded for Mack and drafted Johnston this past draft.
Looks great if they could stay healthy.

2 yrs ago Herbert had Storm Norton and the Texans very own Q protecting him, or not protecting him at NRG that Sunday. They've done nothing to upgrade their OL except they got lucky to get Salyer. A team goes as its OL/DL goes and Telesco has done a terrible job. IMHO Beerlover is the guy you need to talk about this with. He and I talk Chargers football, but he can go much more in depth about the Chargers issues than I can. According to BL they've wasted Herbert's rookie contract.
 

Lucky

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The S-2 thing bothers me but was that Caserio or Cal, Hannah mandating the pick? I know Cal denies this, but I don't believe him. If true and Stroud is a Caserio pick and not a Cal, Hannah,Ryans pick then Caserio should be fired because he will have sentenced the franchise to mediocrity.
Why would Cal/Hannah tell Caserio to take Stroud, specifically. I could see the directive to come away with a franchise QB. I could also see the McNairs demanding Nick to trade up for Young, if for marketing. But I can’t see them demanding Nick select Stroud. That was the result determined by the draft process.

So from here on, you should be sporting the Fire Caserio pink soap avatar.
 
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steelbtexan

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Why would Cal/Hannah tell Caserio to take Stroud, specifically. I could see the directive to come away with a franchise QB. I could also see the McNairs demanding Nick to trade up for Young, if for marketing. But I can’t see them demanding Nick select Stroud. That was the result determined by the draft process.

So from here on, you should be sporting the Fire Caserio pink soap avatar.
Because that's how his daddy started this franchise. Taking marketability ove substance. I think Hannah/Cal told Caserio to pick a QB because they needed somebody to be able to market. Ryans wanted Stroud, so that's who Caserio picked.

Yes, In 3 yrs the pink soap wont be optional anymore. I would fire Caserio right now on the spot for picking Stroud, whether Ryans wanted Stroud or not.
 

sandman

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Because that's how his daddy started this franchise. Taking marketability ove substance. I think Hannah/Cal told Caserio to pick a QB because they needed somebody to be able to market. Ryans wanted Stroud, so that's who Caserio picked.

Yes, In 3 yrs the pink soap wont be optional anymore. I would fire Caserio right now on the spot for picking Stroud, whether Ryans wanted Stroud or not.
So you'd be the meddling owner that you tell Cal not to be...
 

DBCooper

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Because that's how his daddy started this franchise. Taking marketability ove substance. I think Hannah/Cal told Caserio to pick a QB because they needed somebody to be able to market. Ryans wanted Stroud, so that's who Caserio picked.

Yes, In 3 yrs the pink soap wont be optional anymore. I would fire Caserio right now on the spot for picking Stroud, whether Ryans wanted Stroud or not.
I wonder how much Stroud‘s ability improves the moment he fires David Mulugheta as his agent.
 

steelbtexan

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I think he’s smarter than he sounds. A lot of people are better at doing than talking. That boy sure is tough to listen to speak though.
The Texans org better hope so, or this franchise is screwed. Maybe the best thing would be for Stroud to be a Gabbert type qb, so they won't be stuck in mediocrity.
 

thunderkyss

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Just heard on 610 that Stroud will start off as backup qb.

Looks like Mills gets one more shot at proving himself.
I understand that as, "for now"

I'm sure it's part of making Stroud "earn" the position.

I seriously doubt, even though it is what I would do, anyone is planning to starting the season with Stroud not being the starter.
 

Buckeye Homer

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Just heard on 610 that Stroud will start off as backup qb.

Looks like Mills gets one more shot at proving himself.
I think that's the right approach but after summer practice and preseason games, I believe that CJ will be the starter for game one. CJ is too damn good to sit on the bench.
 

xtruroyaltyx

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I understand that as, "for now"

I'm sure it's part of making Stroud "earn" the position.

I seriously doubt, even though it is what I would do, anyone is planning to starting the season with Stroud not being the starter.
I don't know...

I get the feeling Demeco is truly going to go with the guy he feels gives the best chance to win games. Right now, I think he probably feels like Mills has an edge...May not be more talented, but they may feel like he's just a better pro at this point...

I think Stroud is going to have to look really good, Mills really bad, or a combo of the two in order for their roles to be reversed.

I mentioned it earlier, but with so much changing these are valuable reps.

It'll be interesting to see how many snaps Stroud gets with the starters in practice. If he is being worked in with the starting group here and there then I'll believe he has a chance to start game 1.
 

thunderkyss

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I get the feeling Demeco is truly going to go with the guy he feels gives the best chance to win games. Right now, I think he probably feels like Mills has an edge...
Demeco may very well feel that way, but how would he come to the conclusion that Mills is the one? Keenum I could understand.

Caserio may have provided some input, a strong suggestion maybe. I like Mills, but watching Mills get benched for Allen? I can't see how a completely objective person would name Mills ahead of Case.
It'll be interesting to see how many snaps Stroud gets with the starters in practice
OTAs are OTAs, I wouldn't be surprised if Stroud doesn't take any snaps with the 1st team.

The "schedule" teams usually follow is that the rookie impressed in OTAs & earned starter snaps in TC. He's probably going to play most through the preseason games & earn the starting job by week 1.
 

JB

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Help me understand why you think Stroud is dumb. I think I understand, because of his S2 score. But we all know S2 is not about measuring intelligence. His 3.0 gpa points to his intelligence.

So there's got to be something else. What am I missing?
He thinks Stroud is dumb because of who he selected to be his agent and who his role models are
 

Speedy

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Help me understand why you think Stroud is dumb. I think I understand, because of his S2 score. But we all know S2 is not about measuring intelligence. His 3.0 gpa points to his intelligence.

So there's got to be something else. What am I missing?
Geez, this guy makes 100 posts a day and you guys still can’t figure out what he is? He used to comment how dumb Watson was as well. If you can’t figure out the pattern here, that’s on you.
 

Lucky

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Taking marketability ove substance.
I think Hannah/Cal told Caserio to pick a QB because they needed somebody to be able to market. Ryans wanted Stroud, so that's who Caserio picked.
If marketability was the driving force, why didn't Cal/Hannah tell Caserio to trade up with the Bears to take Bryce Young? More marketable. Instead, Nick drafts a David Mulugheta client. Doesn't sound like something Cal would force to happen. Unless, you have a source that says otherwise. Your sources haven't gotten anything right, yet. But there's always a first.
 

TexanBorn51

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Texans QB Davis Mills said he's competing for the team's starting job.
"I keep working on myself," Mills said after the Texans OTA session on Tuesday. "I put my head down and work every day." Houston has reportedly rebuffed trade inquiries into Mills, who started 15 games last year and managed 17 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. Only Baker Mayfield had a worse completion rate over expected than Mills in 2022. C.J. Stroud will start Week 1 barring some kind of catastrophic setback in training camp. Mills could be on another roster by then.
 

Carr Bombed

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Geez, this guy makes 100 posts a day and you guys still can’t figure out what he is? He used to comment how dumb Watson was as well. If you can’t figure out the pattern here, that’s on you.
Well to be fair Watson was/is dumb.. at the very least he makes dumbass decisions.

Having said that, I'm not going to call Stroud dumb, because I don't really know anything about the guy yet. The first paragraph of the 1st chapter of his NFL career hasn't even been written yet.
 
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steelbtexan

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If marketability was the driving force, why didn't Cal/Hannah tell Caserio to trade up with the Bears to take Bryce Young? More marketable. Instead, Nick drafts a David Mulugheta client. Doesn't sound like something Cal would force to happen. Unless, you have a source that says otherwise. Your sources haven't gotten anything right, yet. But there's always a first.
Believe what you want, I don't really care about the team anymore. I'm just going sit back and enjoy history repeat itself.
 

steelbtexan

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Help me understand why you think Stroud is dumb. I think I understand, because of his S2 score. But we all know S2 is not about measuring intelligence. His 3.0 gpa points to his intelligence.

So there's got to be something else. What am I missing?
Listening to him speak would be a start. The people he chooses to associate with etc... The McNairs didn't learn a bleeping getting from the Derrick fiasco. Play with trash and you're going to get stink on you. 3 years from now you'll see what I'm talking about.
 

steelbtexan

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It's not me believing. I'm just looking at the facts. You are making stuff up out of whole cloth. You are able to see the difference, right?
I'm able to see that history is repeating itself. Nothing more or less.
 

steelbtexan

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Geez, this guy makes 100 posts a day and you guys still can’t figure out what he is? He used to comment how dumb Watson was as well. If you can’t figure out the pattern here, that’s on you.
Was this not proven out to be true? And before you go hanging the racist card on me, know that if I had to draft a QB in the last draft, which I wouldn't have done, Young, Hooker were the guys I wanted and I've been very consistent with this. BTW, I play golf on Friday's and don't post at all so no, I don't post 100 times per day.Checkout how many times I've posted today and did you notice that I mainly just reply to posters that reply to me. So stop the lying narrative. If I liked Derrick, Stroud you wouldn't feel the way you do.
 

Texian

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Geez, this guy makes 100 posts a day and you guys still can’t figure out what he is? He used to comment how dumb Watson was as well. If you can’t figure out the pattern here, that’s on you.
Except he was right most of the time until he jumped in bed with Caserio.
 

Texian

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Listening to him speak would be a start. The people he chooses to associate with etc... The McNairs didn't learn a bleeping getting from the Derrick fiasco. Play with trash and you're going to get stink on you. 3 years from now you'll see what I'm talking about.
I don't have a good feeling about this. The fact that his OL and WR were all future NFLers, his WRs were mostly wide open, big windows to throw to, and Ryan Day's O really protects the QB, why Day's QBs don't fare well in the NFL, Pre-determined reads doesn't go thru progressions, holds the ball too long and panics under pressure are just a few reasons for starters. Slow processor and NFL game will be too fast for him. I think it is going to be Zach Wilson 2.0.
 

steelbtexan

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Stroud was probably my least favorite QB of the top 4 guys, but I think he'll be solid. I don't think he's going to be a guy where you don't even think about QB position for the next decade...but I think/hope this offense will help him a lot.
This is where I'm at with Stroud and it's the worst place in the NFL to be.
 

leebigeztx

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I don't have a good feeling about this. The fact that his OL and WR were all future NFLers, his WRs were mostly wide open, big windows to throw to, and Ryan Day's O really protects the QB, why Day's QBs don't fare well in the NFL, Pre-determined reads doesn't go thru progressions, holds the ball too long and panics under pressure are just a few reasons for starters. Slow processor and NFL game will be too fast for him. I think it is going to be Zach Wilson 2.0.
Zach was a fraud as the mourmon Mahomes. That was the guy you were gushing about right or do we need to pull receipts?
 
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