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Brandin Cooks to the Texans

he is a wr2 making a bunch of money. That isn't usually a good idea when you don't have a true #1 on the team.

8 mil isn't that much $$$$ for a guy that's very good and knowing the team wont miss a beat when WFV gets hurt again. Cooks is a high end WR2 that has a few games a yr at high end WR1 numbers. What Cooks really does is threaten defenses vertically which opens things up for other guys.
 
IMO, Fuller gone after this year regardless. probably same with Cooks as I expect him to get banged up Concussion or not. Stills may come back but may want killing on last contract. Cobb is the only one I see solid for 20 21. That's why I am hoping we get someone like Claypool this draft.

Man you're not very optimistic.

They all stay healthy and 2 0f the 3 re-sign.

DW4 shows he's worth 35 mil per yr and everything turns out great.

Odds of this happening 30%
 
You need to recheck your stats. Watson had 333 completions out of 495 attempts.

Obviously Watson subscribes to the "If you have a good horse you may as well ride him another mile" philosophy. He's actually in pretty good company.

Deshaun Watson to Deandre Hopkins: 150 targets of 495 attempts - 30%

Drew Brees to Michael Thomas: 185 targets of 378 attempts - 49%

Patrick Mahomes to Travis Kelce: 136 targets of 484 attempts - 28%

You need to checkout the stats CnD provided.

150 targets in 333 attempts to Wide Receivers.
 
You need to checkout the stats CnD provided.

150 targets in 333 attempts to Wide Receivers.
What point are you trying to make? You throw to the ball to the guy who is open and can catch it. That's the game of football I've known since I was a boy. Were the Niners failures because they fed Jerry Rice so often? Hopkins will get 150 targets on any team he's on.
 
I would say that the #1 in NO was Marques Colston with Jimmy Graham having big influence
I would say that the #1 in NE was Gronk with Danny Amendola having big influence.
I would say that the #1 in LAR was Robert Woods with Cooper Kupp, Gurley having big influence (and then Cooks being beaten out for playing time by Josh Reynolds, and Tyler freaking Higbee overtaking Cooks on progression importance. Big red flag.)

Cooks is the same kind of player as Fuller. They take advantage of a mismatches for huge chunk yardage plays. I'd say Fuller is going to get traded soon.

4 teams in 7 years says alot.
#2 option says alot.
5 concussions screams at you.


look at the route charts and think to yourself "how often do I see Billy NO run these types of patterns?" ( I tried to post them but NExt Gen stats links arent routing for me - too early not enough coffee) McVay is a leader in the modern offense and in finding creative ways to get the ball in the hands of playmakers. Cooks did a lot of underneath/intermediate stuff for that team. Even then Cooks isnt a TD maker, and it goes without saying how much of an offensive genius Sean Peyton is.

For 'grins N giggles' the comparison between all the moving parts in this debacle:

Totals

PassingRushingReceiving
RkPlayerFromToAVGQBrecCmpAttCmp%YdsTDRateLngIntSkYdsY/AAY/ANY/AANY/AAttYdsTDY/ALngRecYdsTDY/RLng
1Randall Cobb20112019681201333.310043.8100003.33.333.333.336236305.96752563524412.175
2Brandin Cooks2014201956880000.000004628126.12840257303414.398
3Will Fuller2016201919420000.000003602.0515622311614.373
4DeAndre Hopkins20132019681101333.36142.461002.0-6.332.00-6.3331103.71263286025413.676
5Kenny Stills201320193810711100.031118.830003.023.003.0023.004802.0429946993615.776
 
Maybe

This is what we're going to find out this yr.

Almost 1/2 of the targets is very telling regardless of who the other WR's were. We're going to find out alot this yr and I'm very happy about this before they pay DW4 35 per yr. If DJ is healthy and plays like he's played before I expect a top 5 offense.
I could be wrong on this, I seem to recall that DHop did not consistantly get separation. He was known for his acrobatic catches, but he had these catches because he was covered? What was his Yards After Catch?

I guess what I'm getting at, DHop was a possession receiver. Maybe the best. But if OB wanted to move in the direction of a more high octane offense, then forgetting every thing else, trading DHop makes sense.

But moving to Watson I have this impression that he didn't often hit his receivers in stride. And a lot of his throws were low. Does he have an accuracy problem?
 
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LMAO @ 3rd consecutive All Pro Season Nuk Hopkins being labeled a "possession receiver" .. why are you setting up grapefruit tosses with loaded questions like "duhhh did Watson have accuracy issues" ???

more hilarious to think OBrien needs Cooks to "run fast down the field" .. he's had those players in numbers to no avail, now you want to take away the best set of hands in the league and have the audacity to slander some of the few players that have been relevant in this franchise's history .. for what? For OBrien? For Easterby? For Brandin Cooks?

"i have the impression....." do ya? really? PLEASE enlighten me IM just at the edge of my seat waiting for Nirvana to set in with your next post!!! what are your thoughts on congested passing layers? On the unavailable underneath targets because of this fondness for deep balls and ridiculously bad pass blocking? Maybe deshaun watson can only throw balls over 20 yards!!! GASP! YOu guys might be right, he may never be more than a 3rd string QB in this league. Darn it! Oh well, lets go see what Tom Savage is doing.

thanks for the laughs.
 
I could be wrong on this, I seem to recall that DHop did not consistantly get separation. He was known for his acrobatic catches, but he had these catches because he was covered? What was his Yards After Catch?

I guess what I'm getting at, DHop was a possession receiver. Maybe the best. But if OB wanted to move in the direction of a more high octane offense, then forgetting every thing else, trading DHop makes sense.

But moving to Watkins, I have this impression that he didn't often hit his receivers in stride. And a lot of his throws were low. Does he have an accuracy problem?

This post is Spot on.
 
LMAO @ 3rd consecutive All Pro Season Nuk Hopkins being labeled a "possession receiver" .. why are you setting up grapefruit tosses with loaded questions like "duhhh did Watson have accuracy issues" ???

more hilarious to think OBrien needs Cooks to "run fast down the field" .. he's had those players in numbers to no avail, now you want to take away the best set of hands in the league and have the audacity to slander some of the few players that have been relevant in this franchise's history .. for what? For OBrien? For Easterby? For Brandin Cooks?

"i have the impression....." do ya? really? PLEASE enlighten me IM just at the edge of my seat waiting for Nirvana to set in with your next post!!! what are your thoughts on congested passing layers? On the unavailable underneath targets because of this fondness for deep balls and ridiculously bad pass blocking? Maybe deshaun watson can only throw balls over 20 yards!!! GASP! YOu guys might be right, he may never be more than a 3rd string QB in this league. Darn it! Oh well, lets go see what Tom Savage is doing.

thanks for the laughs.

I like the ball being spread around to different wr's and wr's with speed to take it to the house any time they touch the ball. That's not Nuks game.

I'm also wondering what the pass distribution is going to look like next year.

Looks to me like your boy is going to have the deep threats that he needs to make the big plays that he's always looking to make. This isn't a bad thing and you would think you would be happy.
 
But moving to Watkins, I have this impression that he didn't often hit his receivers in stride. And a lot of his throws were low. Does he have an accuracy problem?

Wow. NFL Game Pass is free. Take a look and come to your own conclusion. If someone posts highlights of passes to Hopkins, Stills or Fuller, the narrative will be those are highlight and are only showing his good throws. If someone post his completion percentage, another poster will say but it doesn't show the bad passes that are caught.

So, to confirm if your impression is based on facts, I would recommend watching the actual games and instead of impressions, form an opinion.

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What point are you trying to make? You throw to the ball to the guy who is open and can catch it. That's the game of football I've known since I was a boy. Were the Niners failures because they fed Jerry Rice so often? Hopkins will get 150 targets on any team he's on.

Montana spread the ball around. Craig had 1,000 yds receiving one yr. He also threw quite often to Taylor/Brent Jones. Never did Rice get 1/2 of the targets.

That's the point, I've already posted this once. You must've missed that post or just disagree with me but you should go back and check out the numbers when Montana was the QB.
 
Wow. NFL Game Pass is free. Take a look and come to your own conclusion. If someone posts highlights of passes to Hopkins, Stills or Fuller, the narrative will be those are highlight and are only showing his good throws. If someone post his completion percentage, another poster will say but it doesn't show the bad passes that are caught.

So, to confirm if your impression is based on facts, I would recommend watching the actual games and instead of impressions, form an opinion.

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OK you don't say on what points you disagree, but you disagree. I'm looking forward to this coming season, if it's not cancelled, and seeing how well he executes and utilizes his weapons.
 
I could be wrong on this, I seem to recall that DHop did not consistantly get separation. He was known for his acrobatic catches, but he had these catches because he was covered? What was his Yards After Catch?

I guess what I'm getting at, DHop was a possession receiver. Maybe the best. But if OB wanted to move in the direction of a more high octane offense, then forgetting every thing else, trading DHop makes sense.

But moving to Watson I have this impression that he didn't often hit his receivers in stride. And a lot of his throws were low. Does he have an accuracy problem?

You're right on both accounts, Hopkins did not get separation at all. He often didn't need to cause most times he won his match ups but unless it was just a complete mismatch he was not going to get away from the defender. As far as Watson goes so many people forget that his combine listed his weakness as accuracy with the deep ball and he tended to float his passes in them. Has he improved on those issues, we'll see because as I've said Hopkins made bad QBs look decent, decent look good, good look great and great like legends. Which of these is Watson really? I don't know, I think he is good to great but this coming season will be very telling. Given a choice I have rather not have found out this way but it is what it is.
 
Montana spread the ball around. Craig had 1,000 yds receiving one yr. He also threw quite often to Taylor/Brent Jones. Never did Rice get 1/2 of the targets.

That's the point, I've already posted this once. You must've missed that post or just disagree with me but you should go back and check out the numbers when Montana was the QB.

We've had this discussion before. If the Patriots are the gold standard, look how many times they target either Gronk, Edelman or even Wes Welker. In the modern passing game, if you have a great WR1, he gets the ball. Similar to a great RB getting 250 to 300 carries, great WRs will get targeted 100+ times.

Here is my previous post with targets:
 
You're right on both accounts, Hopkins did not get separation at all. He often didn't need to cause most times he won his match ups but unless it was just a complete mismatch he was not going to get away from the defender. As far as Watson goes so many people forget that his combine listed his weakness as accuracy with the deep ball and he tended to float his passes in them. Has he improved on those issues, we'll see because as I've said Hopkins made bad QBs look decent, decent look good, good look great and great like legends. Which of these is Watson really? I don't know, I think he is good to great but this coming season will be very telling. Given a choice I have rather not have found out this way but it is what it is.
I thought Watson did pretty good on his throws to Fuller. What I was thinking of were the 15 yarders over the middle to the slot receiver. Many times I thought if the receiver had only been hit in stride, it would have been off to the races for many more yards or possibly a TD with open field running.
 
OK you don't say on what points you disagree, but you disagree. I'm looking forward to this coming season, if it's not cancelled, and seeing how well he executes and utilizes his weapons.

I disagree with your comments regarding Watson not hitting receivers in stride and a lot of his throws are low. When it comes to accuracy, Watson can improve and become more consistent. Will Fuller is one of the fastest WRs in the NFL. He's not running too many short hooks or out and Watson hits him in stride consistently.

I tend to look at a QB's footwork in the pocket. Watching Watson, when he releases the ball on time, at the top of his drops or when he makes quick decisions or when he knows based on pre or post snap where he's going with the ball, he is very accurate.

However, when he gets sloppy with his footwork, throwing off balance, holding on to the ball waiting to determine if he and the WR are on the same page, the pass rush is bothering him or waiting too long before looking for his check down, his accuracy suffers. So, I don't think he's consistently inaccurate. However, you will see great throws then out of no where a "how did you miss that throw" play. That is where he needs to improve.
 
I disagree with your comments regarding Watson not hitting receivers in stride and a lot of his throws are low. When it comes to accuracy, Watson can improve and become more consistent. Will Fuller is one of the fastest WRs in the NFL. He's not running too many short hooks or out and Watson hits him in stride consistently.

I tend to look at a QB's footwork in the pocket. Watching Watson, when he releases the ball on time, at the top of his drops or when he makes quick decisions or when he knows based on pre or post snap where he's going with the ball, he is very accurate.

However, when he gets sloppy with his footwork, throwing off balance, holding on to the ball waiting to determine if he and the WR are on the same page, the pass rush is bothering him or waiting too long before looking for his check down, his accuracy suffers. So, I don't think he's consistently inaccurate. However, you will see great throws then out of no where a "how did you miss that throw" play. That is where he needs to improve.
In a follow up post I expanded on my comment to you by explaining I thought his deep throws were pretty good. I was referencing to his shorter throws over the middle to the slot receiver.

And I recall many plays DHop had to go to his knees to scoop up throws just off the turf.

And your analysis may be accurate. This is what I was inquiring about.

Thanks.
 
Are you forgetting that the straw that stirs the Chief's passing game is Travis Kelce? All Pro, All Decade TE? Perhaps, you've heard of him?

Warring? Stop with "if Warring" posts. If you want to see Warring, go to the beach. The guy won't get off his surfboard this season.

Billy O is looking to challenge the all time IRs for WRs in a season. He definitely has a type. We both know that the Cooks trade is the most egregious deal made by O'Brien, yet. How many rookie WRs that could be taken at 2.57 will out produce Cooks THIS season? 5? 6? More? This guy is an unmitigated disaster.
In OBs "scheme", rookies tend to look like the Keystone Kops. It's also known that OB dislikes playing rookies. I am not sticking up for OB in any way. Just stating that, in hindsight, it's not all that surprising seeing Hopkins traded.
 
In OBs "scheme", rookies tend to look like the Keystone Kops. It's also known that OB dislikes playing rookies. I am not sticking up for OB in any way. Just stating that, in hindsight, it's not all that surprising seeing Hopkins traded.

Yeah people surprised that OB is trading draft picks for vets haven't been paying attention. OB has never liked playing rookies, even said that when Watson was drafted that he played Savage because he didn't want to play a rookie. I'm not saying I agree with it but is very much in keeping with his history of preferring vets over rookies. So yeah in OBs mind if he can trade Hopkins and get a couple of vets out of the deal I can see him going for that.
 
I would've cleaned house totally.

BOB/Watson/Easterby etc.....

I would've cleaned house as well but under no conditions would Watson be part of the house cleaning. Watson has put up pretty amazing numbers considering the HC/OC hack he's been forced to play under.

I'd scrub the deck clean by bringing in a new staff. I'd let the new staff sit down and study tape, then talk with Watson about the direction of their offense and how he sees himself handling it. Watson has "all" the potential to be a "Franchise QB".....in my book, he's been with the wrong team.
 
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I would have fired O'Brien after Hoyer-Mallet. Easterby doesn't deserve a football job. He can stick to being a character coach.

We lucked into Watson. He's the only hope for the future at this point.

But the team is set up so badly and won't contend anytime soon, that the new coach and GM should at least consider trading Watson for a huge haul of picks.
 
We've had this discussion before. If the Patriots are the gold standard, look how many times they target either Gronk, Edelman or even Wes Welker. In the modern passing game, if you have a great WR1, he gets the ball. Similar to a great RB getting 250 to 300 carries, great WRs will get targeted 100+ times.

Here is my previous post with targets:


Lol hey dont forget Randy Moss. He had 160 targets in his first season with the Patriots. What a year he had 1400+ yards with 23 TDs.
 
In a follow up post I expanded on my comment to you by explaining I thought his deep throws were pretty good. I was referencing to his shorter throws over the middle to the slot receiver.

And I recall many plays DHop had to go to his knees to scoop up throws just off the turf.

And your analysis may be accurate. This is what I was inquiring about.

Thanks.

If he didn't go to his knees he would've gotten blasted by the defender. Every professional QB will throw low that way he doesn't get his boy killed out there. Did you factor that into the equation as well?
 
Yeah people surprised that OB is trading draft picks for vets haven't been paying attention. OB has never liked playing rookies, even said that when Watson was drafted that he played Savage because he didn't want to play a rookie. I'm not saying I agree with it but is very much in keeping with his history of preferring vets over rookies. So yeah in OBs mind if he can trade Hopkins and get a couple of vets out of the deal I can see him going for that.


No one is surprised just disappointed about the trade as well as continuously getting the short end of the sticks on said trades. Add the fact that he's mortgaging away the future . Knowing darn well he could get fired and will leave the next regime in a major funk.
 
That has a lot to do with the other receivers failing to get open or running the wrong routes. Hopkins knew how to get open.

Exactly. CnD's stat is being parroted with little context and as a criticism of Watson and/or Hopkins.

During the season, Fuller and even Stills either missed games with injuries or played through injuries. So, exactly who should have gotten some of Hopkins' targets? Throw it to Coutee while he was sitting on the bench? Throw it to Vyncint Smith while he was in New York? Is Carter a secret weapon who can get open consistently? After injuries or ineffectiveness by the OL, the TEs were staying in to block. Throw it at the back of their heads?

Maybe we should look at why O'Brien, his QC team and OC didn't realize the number of targets to Hopkins and adjust their game plan by utilizing Duke Johnson more.
 
Exactly. CnD's stat is being parroted with little context and as a criticism of Watson and/or Hopkins.

During the season, Fuller and even Stills either missed games with injuries or played through injuries. So, exactly who should have gotten some of Hopkins' targets? Throw it to Coutee while he was sitting on the bench? Throw it to Vyncint Smith while he was in New York? Is Carter a secret weapon who can get open consistently? After injuries or ineffectiveness by the OL, the TEs were staying in to block. Throw it at the back of their heads?

Maybe we should look at why O'Brien, his QC team and OC didn't realize the number of targets to Hopkins and adjust their game plan by......utilizing Duke Johnson more.

Certainly doesn't help that O'Brien can't incorporate RBs and TEs in the passing game.
 
Exactly. CnD's stat is being parroted with little context and as a criticism of Watson and/or Hopkins.

During the season, Fuller and even Stills either missed games with injuries or played through injuries. So, exactly who should have gotten some of Hopkins' targets? Throw it to Coutee while he was sitting on the bench? Throw it to Vyncint Smith while he was in New York? Is Carter a secret weapon who can get open consistently? After injuries or ineffectiveness by the OL, the TEs were staying in to block. Throw it at the back of their heads?

Maybe we should look at why O'Brien, his QC team and OC didn't realize the number of targets to Hopkins and adjust their game plan by utilizing Duke Johnson more.


Let's also factor in those guys couldve been playing poorly on that day.
 
Certainly doesn't help that O'Brien can't incorporate RBs and TEs in the passing game.

If you look at any 2019 game. If it's a pass play and Hyde is not pass blocking. He's out in the flats and stops two to five yards from the LOS. In one mic'd game, the LB walks up to him and says "they are not throwing you the ball. We saw it on tape!"

When they gave up a 3rd rounder for Duke, I was expecting plays where he was the first option and would get "designed" matchups on LBs or get him out in space. I was expecting him to get touches similar to the way the Saints targeted Kamara.

I expected too much.
 
If you look at any 2019 game. If it's a pass play and Hyde is not pass blocking. He's out in the flats and stops two to five yards from the LOS. In one mic'd game, the LB walks up to him and says "they are not throwing you the ball. We saw it on tape!"

When they gave up a 3rd rounder for Duke, I was expecting plays where he was the first option and would get "designed" matchups on LBs or get him out in space. I was expecting him to get touches similar to the way the Saints targeted Kamara.

I expected too much.
I think the difference is that Duke Johnson came here assuming a role on the team.... Kamara carved out his own role while already on the Saints. We never gave Duke a chance to thrive, he was put into a role and stayed in that role. The Saints experimented a lot with Kamara, which is how he became so good.
 
If you look at any 2019 game. If it's a pass play and Hyde is not pass blocking. He's out in the flats and stops two to five yards from the LOS. In one mic'd game, the LB walks up to him and says "they are not throwing you the ball. We saw it on tape!"

When they gave up a 3rd rounder for Duke, I was expecting plays where he was the first option and would get "designed" matchups on LBs or get him out in space. I was expecting him to get touches similar to the way the Saints targeted Kamara.

I expected too much.

And O'Brien's screen passes and play-action with TE are absolutely pathetic. He doesn't know what it's supposed to look like.
 
I love DHop but as great as he is, he's never been a great game breaker. He's a volume guy who is exceptional at creating space to make a catch, even if closely covered.
I'm my opinion, perhaps the best ever at using his hands to legally push off to get separation.
But his yards per catch was never elite.

For example last year, he was number two overall in receptions, and number four overall receiving yards, but number 77 in yards per catch at 11.9yds/rec.

Last season Cooks was number 35 in yards per catch at 13.9. Ahead of any Texan except Stills, and ahead of both Robert Woods and Cooper Cupp.

In 2018 he had 99 receptions at 15.1 yards per catch and 1496 rec yards on the year.

I'm not saying Cooks is better than Hopkins. I'm saying they are different. The Hopkins trade was monumentally stupid, but Cooks has tremendous value if healthy.
 
I love DHop but as great as he is, he's never been a great game breaker. He's a volume guy who is exceptional at creating space to make a catch, even if closely covered.
I'm my opinion, perhaps the best ever at using his hands to legally push off to get separation.
But his yards per catch was never elite.

For example last year, he was number two overall in receptions, and number four overall receiving yards, but number 77 in yards per catch at 11.9yds/rec.

Last season Cooks was number 35 in yards per catch at 13.9. Ahead of any Texan except Stills, and ahead of both Robert Woods and Cooper Cupp.

In 2018 he had 99 receptions at 15.1 yards per catch and 1496 rec yards on the year.

I'm not saying Cooks is better than Hopkins. I'm saying they are different. The Hopkins trade was monumentally stupid, but Cooks has tremendous value if healthy.
Cooks was a desperation acquisition after realizing that he dropped the ball on the Hopkins trade.
 
I think the difference is that Duke Johnson came here assuming a role on the team.... Kamara carved out his own role while already on the Saints. We never gave Duke a chance to thrive, he was put into a role and stayed in that role. The Saints experimented a lot with Kamara, which is how he became so good.

That goes back to the glaring issue “ COACHING “. Coach SP knows how to maximize his weapons while OB doesn’t have a clue.
 
We've had this discussion before. If the Patriots are the gold standard, look how many times they target either Gronk, Edelman or even Wes Welker. In the modern passing game, if you have a great WR1, he gets the ball. Similar to a great RB getting 250 to 300 carries, great WRs will get targeted 100+ times.

Here is my previous post with targets:

Cobb is the Weller/Edelman

Cooks/ WFV are the Moss/Bethel Johnson.

DJ is Micheal and Duke is White.

They are missing Gronk but hopefully Fells and one of the other TE's can become Ben Watson.
 
I would take a proven receiver in this offense over a rookie.

In most college offenses, the WR typically is given a single route and told where he is to end up. In the NFL, he needs to make a presnap read, a snap read and a postsnap adjustment read. That's why it takes most rookie WRs so long to develop.
I wasn’t talking about WR In particular. I was saying there should be multiple players available at 40 that could come in here and start right away and many that would contribute heavily. I’m really really hoping isaiah Wilson could be available and come in and replace Fulton and be an upgrade right away. As well as several of the OL in this draft. Any of the top six RBs would most likely start. Most of the top 7 or 8 CBs and I could see several OLBs that would be an improvement over Scarlett.

don’t be surprised if OB and his new right hand man fall in love with Micheal Pittman. The more I learn about him the more he seems like an OB Easterbee kinda player. He migh not start right away but he would instantly be one of our best red zone targets. He’s a leader, does a lot of work with kids and in his community and practices hard He fits the “good teammate” mold to a T.
 
Cooks will be fine. Why do you think he cant return to form? Much more than 5 games. But hey, there will be no more excuses if the WR corps stays healthy and this is a good thing. IMHO.

Agreed on DJ, he's got alot to prove.

Continue on with the negativity
BS. Call it making excuses all you want but this WR core isn’t all that. And on top of that how often do you see an OB designed play designed to get someone open? Not often. This offense just isn’t well developed and it’s not because of Watson.
 
BS. Call it making excuses all you want but this WR core isn’t all that. And on top of that how often do you see an OB designed play designed to get someone open? Not often. This offense just isn’t well developed and it’s not because of Watson.
I still can not figure out why people are so high on Cobb. The guy has been marred by injured in the past few years, and has only topped 1000 yards once in his career. He is not someone to get excited about. Cooks is a wild card, not sure yet what to expect from him. We literally have no one we can be fully confident as a legit top tier WR.
 
If you look at any 2019 game. If it's a pass play and Hyde is not pass blocking. He's out in the flats and stops two to five yards from the LOS. In one mic'd game, the LB walks up to him and says "they are not throwing you the ball. We saw it on tape!"

When they gave up a 3rd rounder for Duke, I was expecting plays where he was the first option and would get "designed" matchups on LBs or get him out in space. I was expecting him to get touches similar to the way the Saints targeted Kamara.

I expected too much.

I thought the same with Lamar Miller. Never will I be fooled again with BOB.
 
I think you and others are letting your hate overcome your common sense. You're ignoring his career to put all emphasis on his last year on a bad Rams offense. And I'll go with CnD's analysis of his concussions. He doesn't have near the injury concerns you are trying to portray
I’m not as worried about his stats from last year as I am his health. He was forced out of the lineup because they went two TE a lot because the interior of their OL was decimated. They went big a lot leaving him out. Haven’t read C&Ds report but I know this. Two concussions in two months where neither hit would fall on the violent hit category, and he wasn’t just dazed he was stiff bodied. When your body goes stiff like that and you’re down for a long time that’s a red flag. The consider there were 3 more before those.
 
I’m not as worried about his stats from last year as I am his health. He was forced out of the lineup because they went two TE a lot because the interior of their OL was decimated. They went big a lot leaving him out. Haven’t read C&Ds report but I know this. Two concussions in two months where neither hit would fall on the violent hit category, and he wasn’t just dazed he was stiff bodied. When your body goes stiff like that and you’re down for a long time that’s a red flag. The consider there were 3 more before those.
Absolutely. His stats last year speak more to how he was used. His concussions are my main concern.
 
I thought the same with Lamar Miller. Never will I be fooled again with BOB.

Miller was never going to really fit the Texans. I'm not sure if it was RS, OB, McNair or some combo of any of the above but OB was never going to use Miller the way he should. Miller was a speed back that if he got open was gone but he wasn't going to make a hole in the defense. The reason Hyde had a banner year is because he is the only type of RB that OB can really use and that's a bulldozer. Honestly what could have helped this offense maybe more than just about anything in the last 2 years was if they had signed Bell. He would have been perfect as that bulldozer that just plows through defenses and moves the chain so Watson wasn't having to throw 40 passes every game. Trouble is Bell was never going to come here.
 
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