No where in my post do I mention anything about hoping for the worst. I'm just surprised you have been so quick to assimilate into the NRG collective about culture.
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Brandin Cooks to the Texans
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No where in my post do I mention anything about hoping for the worst. I'm just surprised you have been so quick to assimilate into the NRG collective about culture.
True,
This says BOB wanted Nuk off of the team and while this was about $$$$/length of contract, it wasn't just about those things.
Like I said this isn't about what I would do. For instance I would take chances on guys with character concerns in the draft and FA. (Looking at you Aldon Smith.
This is about the culture BOB's trying to cultivate and me as fan hoping this all works out.
How you got this from my post is beyond me.
You must be going stir crazy or something.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Lmao at these excuses but when it comes to Watson we’re hearing a different story. Cook had 4 good games and 12 bad ones. Lol
Cook and Johnson are returning to their pro bowl level while Watson is regressing because of 5 games. Unreal.
So this is the way it's going to be, your world revolves around DW4.
Cooks has a very solid track record that speaks for itself. He's played on winners everywhere he's been and with 2 GOAT's. If all of the WR's stay healthy and your guy doesn't succeed then that's on him.
Cant wait for your next blame it all on a brother post.
Cooks will be fine. Why do you think he cant return to form? Much more than 5 games. But hey, there will be no more excuses if the WR corps stays healthy and this is a good thing. IMHO.
Agreed on DJ, he's got alot to prove.
Continue on with the negativity
How much do you think he should be paid & what is your basis?
Some of you fortune tellers ought to try the lottery.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
5 concussions is not a concern for you?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Still doesn’t answer the question of how it was determined that OB or anybody could have gotten Cooks for a 4th. I’m not saying it’s wrong I just would like to know the formula used to determine this.
Just trying to figure out how much he should get paid. It's not like LA was paying a FA, he was in house.
It certainly isn't because he's missed a bunch of games because of injury.
It's probably because 1. BOB made this trade 2. Butt is still hurt over BOB trading Nuk.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
So 5 concussions is or isnt something that concerns you?
Read CnD's thoughts in the injury thread if you need comfort when it comes to this trade. Plus I take comfort in Cooks only missing 2 games in 5 yrs.
I asked you first. How much should he be getting paid & what's the basis?
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
And paying someone who had 42 receptions last year 12 million a year is just me being foolish? Hopkins had 104 receptions at 12.5 million last year.
But let's send him on his way?
@thunderkyss
The obvious answer is less.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Dude ranked 95th in the nfl with those receptions (tied with 4 others) but you guys wanna pay him a mint.
Spin it how you like. We overpayed.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
If you take the collective salary of every other player in 2019 who got 42 receptions and divide by 4 (total others) you dont get 12 million a year...
You get 5.452 million per year in salary. And I didnt do the research but I'm willing to wager none of them had 5 concussions.
I'll give you some leeway. I'd stomach 8 million a year and maybe a bit more.
12 is a joke.
Texans are paying only 8 this year with no dead money afterwards
Texansballer74
The Marine
I’m still laughing at that santo.
Texansballer74
The Marine
It’s the other way around. Don’t try to spin it on me. We all know the real deal.
I was responding to your comment that you could stomach 8 mil a year... are you shifting on that?
I'm trying to avoid whiplash from the optimism on Johnson and Cooks to the pessimism on Watson.
Texazan
Our HOF 34
Yea I somehow ended up with a double quote in that post, one of yours for whatever reason, I edited it when I saw it, drunk posting while self isolating.
I don't know what to think about the concussions. After reading what Cnnnd posted I'm taking a wait & see approach.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
And do you find my post outrageous or agreeable?
I think you and others are letting your hate overcome your common sense. You're ignoring his career to put all emphasis on his last year on a bad Rams offense. And I'll go with CnD's analysis of his concussions. He doesn't have near the injury concerns you are trying to portray
I don't think it's either.
Not outrageous, you think we are overpaying him. But to compare him to JuJu on his rookie deal is hitting below the belt.
I don't agree with you. You know these contracts aren't based on a single season. Career wise, it looks about right to me.
Now the question I have is why did his production (as well as Gurly's) drop so drastically.
It's been discussed why this happened. The entire Rams offense sucked.
I read somewhere it was 8 mil this year and if he doesn't produce they can cut him with very little cap ramifications.
I think last year was an outlier. I'm actually very happy to get a wr with speed that's only missed 2 games in the last 5 years.
Everybody should be doing this.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
To me it is not accurate. To you it may be
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Some are trying to blame the young quarterback for that. Some are trying to blame the offensive line.
Gurley never recovered from his injury.
Texansballer74
The Marine
That's right up Obrien's alley. Remember he told AJ he was only getting 40 receptions. So with all of these weapons we have it's a good chance Cook will only be targeted 40-50 times.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Ok you don’t like the deal, fair enough. However it’s your reasons for why you say you don’t like the deal that I’m having a hard time understanding. At first you said it was how much we are paying him but you said you would be fine with 8 million. Well 8 million is how much we have to pay him so what’s the issue?
Next it was injury history which I also had a lot of concerns about so I asked the resident expert. I know you read the post so it seems that his injury history is being over blown and that he’s not any more at risk for a career ending injury than any other player. So if injury history isn’t as big a concern, according to a medical professional who is usually very tough on NFL doctors, then what’s the issue?
Ok then it was that it cost us a second round pick. I know many on here have said we could have got him for a 3rd or 4th but when asked where those numbers came from the only answer is basically out of thin air based on the idea OB always over pays so in other words their backsides. What is fact is that Pats gave up a 1st for him and then Rams gave up a 1st for him. I don’t believe he would have been worth a 1st this time but based on his value history a 2nd seems right on the mark so what’s the issue?
Finally it was his production dropped off but so did Gurly’s and every other offensive player on the Rams this season so maybe there was a bigger issue. Personally I think it’s Geoff who seems to have started phoning it in since he got paid. I will agree with you his numbers aren’t as high as Hopkins but part of that is Watson targets Hopkins 3 out of every 5 passes. Not saying I blame him, I would target the WR that makes QBs look good to, but it does bloat Hopkins numbers. So if his last season, where every Rams player looked bad, isn’t a representation of the player what’s the issue?
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Did you read your own post? You make an argument and follow it with a disclaimer again and again and again.
Is cooks overpaid? Does he have injury concerns?
Those are simple questions.