Pointing out that the Rams offense as a whole sucked last yr isn't playing the blame game. It's pointing out the truth. Regardless of how you try to spin your narrative.
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Brandin Cooks to the Texans
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Pointing out that the Rams offense as a whole sucked last yr isn't playing the blame game. It's pointing out the truth. Regardless of how you try to spin your narrative.
At 8 mil not really and being able to get out of the deal is big.
Since he's only missed 2 games in 5 yrs my answer is no
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
And why wasn't the Texans offense more successful? Was it the talent or the scheme?
It's really going to be terrible without Hopkins. O'Brien is really clueless
Texansballer74
The Marine
Not overpaid based on his career.
I'm curious about his concussions, but
I'm not convinced it's a serious issue.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Imo concussions are always serious business. I just hope after his career is over with he will be ok and continue to live a great life.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Yes I read my own post and the “disclaimers” were intended.
They are simple questions that have been answered you just don’t like the answers.
No, by your own post 8 million is not an over pay.
No, based on the opinion of a medical expert Cooks does not have any greater injury concerns than any other NFL player and actually less than most that have been playing as long as he has.
So CnnD broke down his concussions. 1 wasn't a concussion. Two, he cleared protocol the next day. I'm just a dude reading sht on the internet, but it sounds like 3 of the 5 were of the mild kind.
Not like Kevin Johnson who has no business suiting up. But we'll see.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Compared to the Rams the Texans offense looked like a SB team.
He's 26 years old.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
So 5 concussions doesn't matter and paying cooks 12 million to do what a guy paid 846k did is of no concern to you?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
So are you just trolling now?
Why don't we talk about the Cooks the Texans traded for? Who was outperformed by multiple rookies last year.
The #4 passing offense. Robert Woods put up 1100 yards receiving. Cooper Kupp put up 1100 yards. Cooks failed to get to 600. If there is a reason the the Rams offense under performed from the previous season, point to Brandin Cooks as the reason.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I think that's an easy response on your part. The hard part is saying your wrong.
They were successful when WFV was healthy.
With Cooks you dont have to worry about WFV's injury history as much and if everybody stays healthy this will be the most dynamic (Threat to score every time one of these guys gets the ball in their hands type of dynamic.) in franchise history.
Or it could've been Gurley/OL being hurt.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Here where we are you either fall into one of 2 categories.
You either believe obrien is best for the team or...
You believe Watson is best for the team.
I know where you stand. I have no faith in O'Brien.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
What in the blue Hell am I wrong about? You said you were fine with paying 8 million, well all we are paying him is 8 million. You said you were concerned for the injury history well CnD broke that down. Your problem is you don’t actually have a valid reason now and so you are going with trying to spin it and repeating the same questions that have been answered multiple times.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
My questions haven't been answered multiple times and your welcome to look up thread and quote where they were.
Number19
Hall of Fame
OK, I'll jump in here, also. No he's not overpaid at $8M. His performance 2015 - 2018 deserves this. He had a down year last year which has been discussed. Doctors cleared him to play and there seemly is not a higher risk going forward. He finished the season with 3 sound games to lead into this coming season.
His contract allows him to be cut in 2021 without any dead money if he doesn't play up to expectations. If he plays as expected then his base salary of $12M, $13M and $14M is acceptable.
And does he have injury concerns? No, based on CnnnD's analysis.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Is acceptable more then 42 receptions for that salary?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
There Powda is that enough answers for you?
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Bro, you just quoted doc saying his concussions have some concern. Check your own quote.
And I compared cooks production to ju ju's at the salary of 846k. So dont tell me he isn't overpriced at 12 m per year.
Why do you keep coming up with 12m? It's 8 this year and then no guarantees
Getting out of the deal is big? Billy Oh just traded a 2nd round pick that will give production at a cost of $5 million over the next 4 years? And you think cutting Cooks after a year is a good idea? Cooks will cost $47 million against the cap over the next 4 years. $42 million more than that 2nd round pick. If Rick Smith had made this deal, you would have crucified him for it.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
And I’m done, when you literally take less than a sentence of CnD’s post and claim it as support for your arguement while ignoring the ENTIRE rest of the post I know you have simply set your mind to something and not interesting in an actual discussion.
We're either cutting Cooks or taking on the 3 massive last years of his deal.
That's not "big" that's terrible.
Worth a 5th round pick at best
Tweet from @TexansCap: Without factoring in the 2021/2022 extra 4th rounders. With the two trades between Arizona and Los Angeles; Houston takes on an additional $7.893 million in cap dollars in 2020.
A new contract for Hopkins would eat into 60-70% of that if he remained in Houston.
So it cost 30-40% more to take on these washed up guys than just pay Hopkins
A new contract for Hopkins would eat into 60-70% of that if he remained in Houston.
So it cost 30-40% more to take on these washed up guys than just pay Hopkins
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
And you ignore the one sentence that matters.
Roto world is reporting that the Rams are eating 21.8 mil in dead money on Cooks deal.
If this doesn't work out I will crucify BOB too. That make you happy?
Number19
Hall of Fame
One contributing factor was the loss of our starting RT, Tytus Howard, for the last 5 games.
Tweet from @TexansCap: Houston Texans now up to 3rd in the league with WR salary cap spending (per OTC).
Number19
Hall of Fame
Yes
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Really?
Texans have $19million in capspace left, and neither Watson nor Tunsil have been extended.
And the Chiefs first, the Bengals second, showing that particular fact means nothing
More alarming is that in 2021, Watson, Tunsil, Fuller and Cunningham are free agents and the Texans only have $55 million in capspace.
www.spotrac.com
2021 Houston Texans Cap Table
The Houston Texans 2021 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.
www.spotrac.com
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I'm not sure when 12 million or even 8 million a year became acceptable for a wr producing the same as a guy making 846k.
I didn't know 42 receptions a year was the benchmark for the hof.
I also didnt know 5 concussions was an afterthought and not a "health concern."
But you guys carry on.
I didn't know 42 receptions a year was the benchmark for the hof.
I also didnt know 5 concussions was an afterthought and not a "health concern."
But you guys carry on.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Someone tell Greg he doesn't know what he's talking about.
Check out @gregkoch1's Tweet:
Check out @gregkoch1's Tweet:
The games haven't been played... no one knows how it will go
Why did that only affect Cooks production? Woods and Kupp produced.
More alarming is that in 2021, Watson, Tunsil, Fuller and Cunningham are free agents and the Texans only have $55 million in capspace.
2021 Houston Texans Cap Table
The Houston Texans 2021 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.
$30 million for Watson
$20 million for Tunsil
Then???
Number19
Hall of Fame
Sure. There's no telling what the pass distribution will be or who will be Watson's go to guy, But 55 or 60 receptions for the year would meet expectations. Like every player, his season will be graded. If your question was if he caught only 40 passes, then the reasons will be reflected in his grade and will be taken into consideration for his retention or release in 2021.
