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This actually resembles the Transylvanian phlebotomist at our local clinic.
He wasn't specific.
I was just trying to help a brother out!
If that's how you think I don't want your help...
Lol
He could have liked it, not that there's anything wrong with that.
BoB coached randy moss in NE... right?
i mean why shouldn't everyone be hype about this guy??
Not too worried about him keeping us out of the playoffs or making us lose in the playoffs. This kid is special and he will be a big part of what takes us to the next level.When Fuller drops a pass(es) that keep the Texans out of the playoffs or cause them to lose in the playoffs, Texans fans will be ready to ship him out faster than they can say Jacoby Jones.
Did you just crawl from under a rock or come out of a cocoon or something? Or do you just not get it?
Dude has been dropping ONE pass every time he gets on the field. Dropping ONE pass every game or so is not something that should be acceptable. And the killer part about his drops is that they arent on some curl route or little slant...some 10 yard in route...
He has shown a knack for dropping sure fire house calls and big chunk plays when he has done everything else he needed to do to get open.
And do you think the coaches or ******* Fuller himself are shrugging off that ONE drop issue he has? Yeah it's an "issue" because this isn't an every blue moon occurrence.
And I really like Fuller and very shortly after we drafted him and I looked into him deeper I became a big fan of his. So I'm not railing against the guy. I'm just pointing out that this is an issue that he needs to work on because if he wants to be a great player then he can't be dropping those passes as often as he does.
Yes he did drop some in the preseason and the one in the first regular season game but unless he drops a ball going deep or one that would extend a drive in the next few games I am not going to be a prisoner of the monent and say he needs to improve.I agree with this, however on the bolded...As I said earlier I'm not ready to accept this as status quo. He's a young player so he can improve on it. I'd like to see him improve on it.
Lets not be prisoners of the moment.
I could care less about scouting reports from college and his yet again dropping a bomb in his first regular season game. He makes plays that negate his drops. I sure as hell will take his drop with the good he did in the game without any other drops.Prisoners of the moment my arse. He had this particular negative up and down scouting reports and game film from everyone and their uncle coming out of Notre Dame. He was 88th of 96 qualifiers in drop % his junior year and that was actually worse than finishing 82nd the year before. Then his first game as a pro lo and behold...
It ain't time to hit any panic buttons, but it sure as hell ain't prisoner of any one moment or any one drop. It's his game until further notice. Let's just hope he keeps giving us more to notice positive or we begin to notice an improvement in his unfortunate negative.
I could care less about scouting reports from college and his yet again dropping a bomb in his first regular season game. He makes plays that negate his drops. I sure as hell will take his drop with the good he did in the game without any other drops.
I am not going to put a microscope on his one drop.
Him being a threat opens up plays for the other receivers. I dare other teams defenses to lay off and let him go deep without coverage in every game.
That pass he dropped he was more or less wide open. Yes that sounds bad but if I were other teams I would not be of the mindset to underestimate him.
You all quibble over his occassional drops and I will watch as his teammates benefit from him being on the field. His threat alone negates dropped bombs like the one he dropped week 1.
You can discuss how he will hurt our team with drops all you want but I doubt any team going against us will lay off our poor catching rookie.
He will win rookie of the year and that will be with him dropping some big passes. Meanwhile our offense will get better due to him being a part of it.
Prisoners of the moment my arse. He had this particular negative up and down scouting reports and game film from everyone and their uncle coming out of Notre Dame. He was 88th of 96 qualifiers in drop % his junior year and that was actually worse than finishing 82nd the year before. Then his first game as a pro lo and behold...
It ain't time to hit any panic buttons, but it sure as hell ain't prisoner of any one moment or any one drop. It's his game until further notice. Let's just hope he keeps giving us more to notice positive or we begin to notice an improvement in his unfortunate negative.
Or, it's his game. Period. No further disclaimers. The Texans took him the first round because of everything positive he brought to the table, and were apparently willing to accept the one negative that he brings as well. You talk about being realistic, but it is not realistic to think that this negative is going to get "coached" out of him at this point in his career. It is what it is. Learn to accept it. If it is something that improves in his pro career, then great. If not, the positives still vastly outweigh the negatives.
I find people complaining about his drops like people buying a tricycle and complaining that it has 3 wheels.
Have there been people really complaining about his drops though?
We must be reading 2 different threads then. People have been complaining about him dropping balls since we drafted him.
Guess I haven't read it as complaining so much as addressing an area of concern. Because it's an area of concern.
In that case, let's address all of those drops from Hopkins because those two big drops could have easily been touchdowns.Guess I haven't read it as complaining so much as addressing an area of concern. Because it's an area of concern.
In that case, let's address all of those drops from Hopkins because those two big drops could have easily been touchdowns.
It's not an area of concern when everyone knew it would happen. Hopefully he can get better, but otherwise it's simply as advertised. All one can hope for is that he doesn't drop it when the game is on the line and live with his occasional drop. With the concentration he's shown after making a mistake however, I doubt he would in situations where he absolutely cannot afford to drop it.
In that case, let's address all of those drops from Hopkins because those two big drops could have easily been touchdowns.
Knowing it would happen doesn't make it less an area of concern. That makes no sense really. It's reason not to be surprised, but it's still of concern.
The rest is essentially what myself and some have said almost to a t. Except I still hold my breath a bit about what kind of situation we may see this part of his game rear it's head. None of this amounts to mass complaining though. Just discussing the pros and cons of our new weapon/toy.
They can be discussed by anyone, certainly. Knock yourself out if you like. Didn't know that he had the same m.o. as Fuller and so it was of equal concern though.
Could you show me where that's been evidenced please?
True, but Hopkins and even Andre Johnson dropped passes here and there, and still do although they have already proven themselves. Now, I'm not saying Fuller should get a pass cause he's a rookie, but he's making big plays for us. Drops are to be expected from every receiver from time to time.Hopkins has proven himself over the past few years, Fuller has not yet
True, but Hopkins and even Andre Johnson dropped passes here and there, and still do although they have already proven themselves. Now, I'm not saying Fuller should get a pass cause he's a rookie, but he's making big plays for us. Drops are to be expected from every receiver from time to time.
One of them might have been six. The other would have been called back because they called offensive pass interference on him.In that case, let's address all of those drops from Hopkins because those two big drops could have easily been touchdowns.
True, but Hopkins and even Andre Johnson dropped passes here and there, and still do although they have already proven themselves. Now, I'm not saying Fuller should get a pass cause he's a rookie, but he's making big plays for us. Drops are to be expected from every receiver from time to time.
One of them might have been six. The other would have been called back because they called offensive pass interference on him.
Didn't that Andre Johnson guy have an issue with drops early in his career?Prisoners of the moment my arse. He had this particular negative up and down scouting reports and game film from everyone and their uncle coming out of Notre Dame. He was 88th of 96 qualifiers in drop % his junior year and that was actually worse than finishing 82nd the year before. Then his first game as a pro lo and behold...
It ain't time to hit any panic buttons, but it sure as hell ain't prisoner of any one moment or any one drop. It's his game until further notice. Let's just hope he keeps giving us more to notice positive or we begin to notice an improvement in his unfortunate negative.
Didn't that Andre Johnson guy have an issue with drops early in his career?
Excellent breakdown. Thanks for posting.Here's a good video about WFV. Breaks down what we tried to do on offense with him vs Bears:
I still believe the concern is a bit premature. It's only week 1 & it didn't cost us a game. Not even close. In fact, I think he more than made up for it. To me expressing concern now feels like you've been waiting all summer to say, "I told you so!"
I think there's a line of thinking where mistakes should be avoided at all costs. That's what Kubiak did, to the point that he didn't trust the team he put together to do the job he brought them together to do.
Maybe I think about things differently...maybe not...
After all those years of sitting with coaches watching film, I don't get the big deal about saying "hey you made a mistake here that you've made a few times before...I want you to continue to get better in that area...." .
Maybe I think about things differently...maybe not...
After all those years of sitting with coaches watching film, I don't get the big deal about saying "hey you made a mistake here that you've made a few times before...I want you to continue to get better in that area...." and then keep watching film and looking at other plays. Making a comment about a specific play or issue with a players game is not condemning that player all together.
I'm pretty sure his position coach and OB have made some comment about the drops. Fuller has heard something because he's talked about making a conscious effort in that area. Do you think Fuller himself of his coaches have been waiting to say "I told you so"?
Or do you think that OB and his position coach are like "F it hahaha...Dropped balls, smopped balls"..."Who gives a ****"?
That I agree with and I don't think that anyone has said stop going to Fuller or he sucks and he can't be trusted.
When Kubiak was here I said he often got the upset stomach face on the sidelines and I felt like he was too anti-mistake which in turn caused his team to be too uptight and actually led to more mistakes. I
Wade Smith seemed to confirm this on the radio the other day when he was asked what he thought the difference was between Jacoby in Houston and Jacoby in Baltimore..
He said that the Texans don't always let players fully be themselves. Not that they have strict rules, but it's tighter than other teams and he thinks that when Jacoby went to Baltimore he was able to fully be himself and didn't feel like he had as much of a filter on or off the field. FWIW.
Here's a good video about WFV. Breaks down what we tried to do on offense with him vs Bears:
I love a pick like Martin. Not sexy but a big solid.Funny how the Washington Post article they referenced wrote this:
If the game is on the line why would he even pass to Fuller, it should go to DHop...It's not an area of concern when everyone knew it would happen. Hopefully he can get better, but otherwise it's simply as advertised. All one can hope for is that he doesn't drop it when the game is on the line and live with his occasional drop. With the concentration he's shown after making a mistake however, I doubt he would in situations where he absolutely cannot afford to drop it.