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I think the mallet era is over LOL we will prob never see mallet has the starter ever again I think they go with hoyer from here on out and wont yank him even if we are getting Stomped on
The problem with this thought is that Mallett is not even an average journeyman. He should have been cut this morning.
What Mallett brings as a full time Starter ..... Not Much.
Need to start looking under every rock for a QB ....
I am starting to subscribe to the theory that every third year use your first round pick on a QB. The rookie has two years to prove it, and if it is a jake locker situation you draft another one to sit a year and watch and then start him the next year. Repeat process until you have the QB. Worst case scenario you turn out like the Browns - which we are already there. Best case scenario you are the Chargers with Brees and Rivers on the same roster.
And don't give me the BPA. When you dumb and dumber running the draft and not hitting on a draft pick after the first round it's not like that's working out.
Well, I am a UH alumnus, but I've been pretty fair and balanced on the whole thing. I said the same thing for Mallett that I said for Keenum - I want to see what's there before I write it off. I think Keenum did some very good things in losses, and all anyone wants to talk about is the loss. I think Keenum did some crappy things in wins. All I've seen from Mallett is crap. I'm already over watching the rocket arm throw balls into the turf, I can tell you that. I'm also done watching him nail defensive players with the ball. At least Keenum threw TDs in between his 3-and-outs.
I would say at this point that Mallett's trajectory has crashed. I really wish they hadn't IRed Savage. I would trade Mallett and Hoyer and a bag of chips for Keenum right now. At least he's fun to watch.
I'm not a UH alum, but I thought Keenum had a Flutie-esque level of talent. Keenum's ceiling has not been reached and I would say that he looked better than anyone we have on this team. I would rather we bring him back and try the rest of the season. I would at least watch the rest of the season that way. Throwing balls into the dirt 1/3 of the time just doesn't do it for me.
Well we have never tried picking a QB in the 3rd round - none of our other 3rd picks work out very well. QB in the 3rd could be the sweet spot.
Has a team every tried the method being mentioned? You draft a QB every year in the 1st or 2nd until you find that guy?
How much does that actually undermine your ability to build a team through the draft, do you have to be a player in free agency every year to fill a hole or two?
Personally I think every year might be a bit to much... how would you manage or know what you had? After just two years you would be in the position of needing to let one of your guys go for the new guy coming in (stashing a promising QB on the practice squad seems to big of a risk).
If you were GM what would you do?
Me I draft a first round QB every other year, unless the talent isn't there, then I draft a QB in the second on those years. I would do this until I found my guy - and my guy wouldn't have to be all world, top 15 would slow my QB search down to only drafting a solid backup with potential to really break out. If I get the chance to draft a guy everyone agrees could be elite (top 5) I risk it. I would value the QB position that much.
With how most drafts have gone / do go, I really don't see the risk with trying the above. I understand it is a team game and you need other positions but with rule changes and the direction the NFL is going QB is currently the most needed position to play at an above average level. And you should be able to make up for the lost draft picks through mid priced free agents which would be slightly more expensive than a rookie contract but not to much of a difference (?).
Another key piece of this is you can't have the "Colin Kaepernick" experience... until you are sure he is THE GUY, do NOT give them a huge contract. Prove it to me, play out your rookie deal and then we will talk!
So I am crazy, or should I start applying for GM jobs?
You can't just draft a QB in the first round every year.
- First it assumes there just is one you'll take whether you like him or not.
- Second, if you take one and his rookie year goes ok but not great, what do you do then? Play him his second season and have a new first rounder rookie QB on the bench?
- Then the next year the first guy maybe regresses a bit and the second guy plays now in his second year and does ok but not great, time for another? Where does the first one go?
Oh ya, you now have a completely atrophied roster. That's just not how it works.
Not sure if you were responding to me or someone else, but I believe I said I wouldn't draft one every year as it would lead to exactly what you said, I mentioned every two years to try and manage the rest of the roster + give time to evaluate the guys you do have.
If not every other year, then what time table? How many years do you go between trying to find your QB for the future? 3, 4 years?
Some other teams have tried the 3 or 4 year method and it hasn't gone very well (Jags) they draft a guy give him a substantial amount of time (3 or 4 years starting in this league is a long time) then they start over. Seems a lot of wasted effort.
There is still hope for Mallet.
That said.. someone mentioned Colin Kaepernick and I perked up. He's not happy in San Francisco and has allll the tools.
What would it take to get him, I wonder?
Also.. I forget who said it but the condescending Gilligan quip was funny.
While OB & Rick were too busy not addressing our QB situation, they did inquire about acquiring Kaepernick & Manning. It had never been reported, but I wouldn't put it past them to have inquired about Rivers as well.
Jeff George?LOL Kaepernick? Seriously?
This team isn't going to beat indy with Mallet. Probably won't do much better with Hoyer.
I just don't understand why we paid Hoyer so much money when it's going to be
Mallet no matter what!
(that is until we can draft Hackenberg in the first round of course..)
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Has a team every tried the method being mentioned? You draft a QB every year in the 1st or 2nd until you find that guy?
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Random thoughts:The Browns?
Random thoughts:
There has to be a way to get a good QB. Does McNair need to pay somebody just to choose a QB for him? Maybe he pays Troy Aikman and gives him 4 years to find somebody? What? There has to be some way. Is that the same Weeden that is not so terrible with the Cowboys right now (not great, though)? Delhomme? He was good at one time. Maybe all those QBs just had a few really bad coaches... Maybe Hoyer and Mallett both need a new coach.
Do you have to intentionally go 2-14 on a year when you could have gone 12-4?
Hey, wasn't that Couch guy supposed to be good (JustKiddin')?
Then we'd still have the "bullet" problems by a guy who seemed to have taken a bullet to the head himself.Jeff George?
It ain't easy, I tell you that. Just look at all the QBs drafted since the Texans have been in the league.Random thoughts:
There has to be a way to get a good QB. Does McNair need to pay somebody just to choose a QB for him? Maybe he pays Troy Aikman and gives him 4 years to find somebody? What? There has to be some way. I
That's 151 QBs drafted. I count maybe 15, 16 of those 151 that are/were at least in the slightly above average on up category. That's about a 10% success rate of just getting a halfway decent QB. Maybe you can make arguments for others, but that number can't be more than 20, which would be just 13%.
There were 9 drops for Mallett, and 2 more for Hoyer. Can't win ball games with that many drops.
That's 151 QBs drafted. I count maybe 15, 16 of those 151 that are/were at least in the slightly above average on up category.
I know we can look at Mallett and Hoyer landing well, but spending 4+ years without any meaningful snaps is just as much a career ender.
Last year was Mallett's 4th year. He started 2 games. Not much different than Schaub.
Right. And that's still about a 1 in 4 chance of getting a decent QB.64 in the 1st 3 rounds. The rest are chaff.
Right. And that's still about a 1 in 4 chance of getting a decent QB.
So what's the consensus now on Mallett's touch?
YEAR: 2011
Colin Kaepernick, Nevada 59
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas 58
Patrick Devlin, Delaware 56
Andy Dalton, TCU 56
Cam Newton, Auburn 56
Scott Tolzien, Wisconsin 55
Nathan Enderle, Idaho 54
Jake Locker, Washington 54
TJ Yates, North Carolina 52
Christian Ponder, Florida St 51
Ricky Stanzi, Iowa 50
Tyrod Taylor, Va Tech 50
Interesting, Zac Dysert threw at 59!The fact is the speed variation among NFL QBs isn't huge. 60 mph is he highest. 55-6 is about avg and 52-53 low end.
From Mallett's year:
Link has 2008-15
Now certainly some of these guys can do this more consistently or effortlessly and others are really heaving.
The fact is the speed variation among NFL QBs isn't huge. 60 mph is he highest. 55-6 is about avg and 52-53 low end.
From Mallett's year:
Link has 2008-15
Now certainly some of these guys can do this more consistently or effortlessly and others are really heaving.
Bit but mallet throws harder than any qb in the history of the game. He shatters finger bones on every pass. Don't believe me just ask all the mallet haters.