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Yup to 2012. Yates effectively took over an 8-3 team. 17 pts were already on the board and the Jags scored 13 pts on the day. If the Texans won any of the remaining 5 games they were in the playoffs. Yates gets way, way too much credit for "getting the Texans to the playoffs."
At this point I would give up our second round pick, Tate and Yates for Cousins.
I'm right there with you. I told someone if we can get good solid runs up the middle early, nothing would boost Schaub's confidence more than a bootleg off of play-action for a deep bomb. Forget the short completions, it'll take a big one to start putting hairs back on his chest.
Michael Irvin on the halftime show about Eli's interceptions:
"It's one thing to throw those interceptions, its another thing to throw those Schaubs."
:kubepalm: :wadepalm: :vincepalm:
Guys on NFLN just said according to if Schaub keeps turning it over than he'll be yanked... possibly during this week game, because according to a Texans source 'it wouldn't be fair to the rest of the team'.
So Andre basically told Matt that if he throws an interception to Finnegan, it won't be Finnegan who gets an ass whoopin.
Why are people wanting Cousins? What has done or proven? NOthing at all other then a good regular season game or two when the Skins were really hot I might add. RG3 who is struggling right now won a ton of games in a row with that same team.
Michael Irvin on the halftime show about Eli's interceptions: s one thing to throw those interceptions, its another thing to throw those Schaubs."
Instead of overpaying for Cousins why not try and find the next RG3 in the draft? Cousins just doesn't pass my eye test, I'd rather swing for the fences with a guy like Mariota or Taj Boyd then be stuck with someone who will probably morph into another Schaub. Before yall go ballistic, yes I'm almost blind and no I didn't watch every Kirk Cousins snap, my memory is one phenomenal game, then a whole lotta "meh" ... Same exact way I feel about Vicks backup ( can't think of his name)
Use the assets in play and sweeten it with Foster, jump into the top 10 and possibly bounce back as soon as next year.
Finnegan won't be playing try again
Sean Pendergast ‏@SeanCablinasian 11m
So a Pick 6 is called a "Schaub" now, huh? Funny guy. Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go snort three lines of Irvin.
Finnegan won't be playing try again
Well he just threw 2 more including a pick 6. That is 14 on the season.
Make that three more for a total of 15 and the Giants are 0-6.
Guys on NFLN just said if Schaub keeps turning it over than he'll be yanked... possibly during this week game, because according to a Texans source 'it wouldn't be fair to the rest of the team'.
Kubiak would lose the locker room. Either way, I don't see how Schaub remains the starter next season. Smith has seen enough.
I always wondered about this:
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I heard Andre is going to be a game time decision (hamstring) as well, so he may not play this Sunday...not to be Debbie downer or anything.
Make that three more for a total of 15 and the Giants are 0-6.
I'd take a Superbowl even if it was guaranteed the Texans would miss the playoffs for the next 5 years. You only have 1 goal each season - win the Superbowl. 31 teams end the year in disappointment. To reach it would make all the suffering from 2002 on worth it.
thank you, this really answer my question.
I guess I'd have to be american to fully understand this.
I wouldn't have thought it was an American thing.
A Super Bowl championship is the ultimate goal. Regardless how bad things get after we win a Championship we could always say, "We won it in 2013." We'll be like Cowboy fans.
But it's all about truly being a contender. Some believe with Schaub we're not a true contender. We may get to the Super Bowl & lose with Schaub & they'll opine that we never really had a chance. They'll be happy if we win, even give Matt some kudos.
I see their point. We can point to Andre & say he gives us a chance to win. Regardless what his stats are, or how "injury prone" he might be. If he's playing in the Super Bowl he gives us a chance to win it. Arian, he could be averaging 3.8 ypc, but he gives us a chance to win. Even Ben Tate with his fumblitus.... if he's in the game, he gives us a chance to win.
Most of us don't feel that way about Schaub. Some of that is taking what he does bring to the team for granted. We didn't win 12 games last year in spite of Schaub. We won in Denver & in Jacksonville largely because of Matt Schaub.
I don't know the numbers exactly but I feel that we're more likely to lose than not if we're down by 3 with the ball in his hands.
yeah maybe it's not an american thing, but it sure would help me to see the importance of it
as things are now I would rather have a beautiful season a good playoff run and then go out to an other very good team with "honor" than playing a bad season with win like in san diego and then go to the playoffs and go on for luck maybe win a SB but having the sensation that the team overall is not even an average one
But this is probably because I watch football for fun, and having to suffer all season long is not that appealing to me. and then, even if we win the SB, I wouldn't have anyone to celebrate that with.
And you know what, I would agree 100% with you if Gary Kubiak was not the head coach of the Texans. Mariota and Boyd would be absolutely handcuffed in Kubiaks system because of how Kubiak handles QBs. Kubiak would not use their talents to help shape the offense. instead he would try and force them to be players they are not.
To have those 2 QB's on a team, you need a creative mind to structure an offense around their talents. Kubiak is so far on the other side of that spectrum, creativity is a dot in the distance to him...
Cousins is more of the QB Kubiak likes for the West Coast Offense. I will say Cousins has a far more upside than Schaub ever had coming out of college and into the draft..
I would have to politely disagree. I think that the Kubiak/ Shanahan version of the west coast offense needs an athletic QB to run it. Sell the hard play action and have the ability to get to the corner on a roll out/ bootleg. Jake Plummer comes to mind first, not the greatest QB but he was succesful in this system because he could use his legs.
Kubiak IMO has had to morph his offense to fit those things that Schaub can't do, so i believe Kubiak is only working with a fraction of the plays he would prefer to call. I think Koobs is stubborn at times, but he is a great offensive mind. He needs to implement a blocking scheme like Chicago was using where the 3 interior lineman take one solid step forward on pass plays and give Schaub that extra half second and a more defined pocket.
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I still hold fast to my belief that the shoddy line play is mostly accountable for the offensive struggles, and it has magnified Schaubs deficiencies
So by what you just said about Koods having to morph is offense to fit Schaub and needing an athletic QB, why has Koobs not found a QB to run HIS offense the way he wants it ran? There have been plenty out there. For example, we all saw how TJ Yates ( not saying he is the answer) could run with his feet, yet he still sits behind a QB that Koobs had to change his offense around...
Is Yates just that bad, couldn't Yates be a Jake Plummer like QB in Kubiak's system, and yet Kubiak still wants the bigger QB to run his offense. I think Plummer was Shannahan's choice and Kubiak had to fit his play calling around him. Now that Kubiak is in charge, he can do it the way he wants, and it seems he wants the bigger, less mobile QB to run the show.
Cousins is far more athletic than Schaub ever has been, ergo I think he would be absolutely great in this offense, because he has what Kubiak wants in his QBs, while the other athletic QBs, Manziel, Boyd, Moriata would be absolutely wasted in this system, not because they couldn't do it but because of how Kubiak likes to run his offense.
So by what you just said about Koods having to morph is offense to fit Schaub and needing an athletic QB, why has Koobs not found a QB to run HIS offense the way he wants it ran? There have been plenty out there. For example, we all saw how TJ Yates ( not saying he is the answer) could run with his feet, yet he still sits behind a QB that Koobs had to change his offense around...
Is Yates just that bad, couldn't Yates be a Jake Plummer like QB in Kubiak's system, and yet Kubiak still wants the bigger QB to run his offense. I think Plummer was Shannahan's choice and Kubiak had to fit his play calling around him. Now that Kubiak is in charge, he can do it the way he wants, and it seems he wants the bigger, less mobile QB to run the show.
Cousins is far more athletic than Schaub ever has been, ergo I think he would be absolutely great in this offense, because he has what Kubiak wants in his QBs, while the other athletic QBs, Manziel, Boyd, Moriata would be absolutely wasted in this system, not because they couldn't do it but because of how Kubiak likes to run his offense.
The Lis Franc injury ends careers
So does throwing over your receiver, and behind your receiver, and at their feet, and not being able to throw over 30 yards, and not having any velocity on the out routes, and ...
Fitting your scheme around the talents of your player, or finding a guy who can manage your system. Seems Kubiak is more drunk on his system than anything else. This is a slow, plodding offense that belongs in the hey-day of the wco. Someone please tell Gary he needs some more speed to take the top off the defense and stretch the field. Audibles are essential too. It's 2013 going on 2014 Kubes.
Fitting your scheme around the talents of your player, or finding a guy who can manage your system. Seems Kubiak is more drunk on his system than anything else. This is a slow, plodding offense that belongs in the hey-day of the wco. Someone please tell Gary he needs some more speed to take the top off the defense and stretch the field. Audibles are essential too. It's 2013 going on 2014 Kubes.
Yeah, speed plus a qb that can make all the throws. I was watching Cutler zip the ball around last night and was jealous. Never been jealous of Cutler before.Guess we can strap a jugs machine on Schaub's back to get the ball to them. Otherwise, the WR would have to come back to the ball after taking the top off the D
Yeah, speed plus a qb that can make all the throws. I was watching Cutler zip the ball around last night and was jealous. Never been jealous of Cutler before.
I know you've answered a response to this already but to give some perspective, I'm almost 50 years old. I started watching the Oilers in 1971 (lots of Radio back then since the Oilers were always blacked out at home). In my lifetime I've never seen my home team participate in the ultimate game. Now I'm going on a deathwatch. Do the Texans get into the SB before I die? Perhaps we should start a pool.I'd take a Superbowl even if it was guaranteed the Texans would miss the playoffs for the next 5 years. You only have 1 goal each season - win the Superbowl. 31 teams end the year in disappointment. To reach it would make all the suffering from 2002 on worth it.thank you, this really answer my question.
I guess I'd have to be american to fully understand this.
Yup. I might dry heave, but I'd toss Rivers and Romo in the Cutler group too. They haven't shown the best decision making in the past either, but they can spin it
Good grief, I'm desperate.
*BTW, since you mentioned the game last night. I absolutely love Kyle Long's game. The dude's mean as heck, knows what he's doing, doing it very well and he's only a rookie.
I think Koobs is stubborn at times, but he is a great offensive mind.
http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/11/matt-schaub-interception-sage-rosenfels/?sct=hp_t11_a1&eref=sihpRecently, Ive been asked by friends, current and former players, coaches, and even my son, Whats wrong with Matt Schaub? I struggle for an answer. I dont think there is anything wrong with his mechanics. Watching from afar, it seems the offense Houston is running still uses the same battle-tested concepts I remember from my time with the team that head coach Gary Kubiak has used for years. The Texans still have a lot of talent on the team and have continued to run the ball well, throw for a lot of yards and play solid defense. So why the interceptions, and why the four straight games with a pick-6, the deadly interception run back for a touchdown?
I spent the past few days trying to figure out why, at what seems to be the most inopportune times, Schaub has thrown interceptions, causing a team with Super Bowl aspirations to be in soul-searching modeand, according to Kubiak, maybe even quarterback-searching mode. The only thing I can do is relate this to a situation I went through as a player and how it affected me.
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Being that I played the best football of my NFL career in Houston under Gary Kubiak, I am rooting for the Texans to get back on track. Having played with Schaub for two years and knowing how mentally strong and dedicated he is to his team and his profession, I believe he will get his play turned around soon. But only one person, Matt himself, knows his confidence level after being mentally battered early this season. And the mental part of the game, the part no one sees, plays such a big part of success and failure in the NFL. I know. Ive felt it.