We don't. That was kinda my point... we know nothing as of yet. It's just chatter to fill around the boredom
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Will Anderson vs Jalen Carter
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TexansFan15
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The Colts had a great OL and QB with Luck and it didn’t get them a Super Bowl.
banned1976
sleeper mode
My eyes will be glued to the Ohio Vs Georgia game because I believe the Texans' first pick in the 2023 will be playing in this game. And it's possible the Texans first two picks will be playing in this game.
I think their first pick is playing in the Sugar bowl
banned1976
sleeper mode
After watching that game, you're probably right. That 38(?) yard TD pass in the corner of the endzone was the best pass I've seen in college football since watching this guy in Louisville.
Teddy Bridgewater Louisville Highlights ||| “Dual Threat” - YouTube
I don't care what anyone says, I still wish the Texans would have drafted him. He had horrible luck with Minnesota.
That horrific injury in his first year totally derailed his career
banned1976
sleeper mode
A lot more highly ranked Edge than DI. It looks like it's a deep draft for edge.
NFL Draft prospects 2023: Updated big board of top 70 players overall, position rankings | Sporting News
2023 NFL Draft Big Board: PFF's top 100 prospects | NFL Draft | PFF
The Texans could easily pass on an edge rusher with their first pick and still get a very good prospect in the middle of the first round and even in the 2nd. Looks like a different story for interior linemen.
Yeah I'm just worried now with the Texans of DI taken high in the draft... Travis Johnson and Amobi Okoye. Have there been others?
yeah .... a lot of things have to go right to win a Super Bowl. About a month ago, watched Eagles beat Green Bay .... don't remember the score or anything significant other than Eagles offensive line .... they must've run for 450 or 500 yards .... that's an impressive thing to watch !
banned1976
sleeper mode
Louis Nix (RIP) was a 3rd round pick, still pretty high to me. 2014, drafting first in the draft and that was a terrible draft for the Texans. 2015 was just as bad as 2014, 2016 was just as bad as 2015...and then we had Watson. The Texans should just paint the floor with draft pick names in a box, cut a chickens head off and whatever square the chicken dies on, that's their guy.
Carter at 1-2 and Horton in the 3rd would make me really happy.
1-2.Jalen Carter
12. Quentin Johnston
33. Devon Achane
66. Steve Avila or Rickey Stromberg
75. Dylan Horton
90 (Cooks trade) Luke Musgrave
103. Max Duggan
Reset the C market by signing Bradbury and add a LB in FA and this team would look much better.
With this draft the team would look like this.
QB Vet FA/Mills/Duggan
RB's Pierce/Achane/Johnson
WR's Johnston/Collins/Metchie/Rodgers/Moore
TE's Musgrave/Toriano/Akins/Howard or Jordan
OT Tunsil/Howard/Heck
OG Green/Cann/Avila
C Bradbury/Avila
DE Hughes/O/Horton/Addison/Green
DT's Carter/Collins/Lopez/Hinish
LB's Harris/Cashman/FA Rashuan (SP?) Evans/Hansen/Wallow/Late rd pick
S Petrie/Owens/King/Late rd pick
CB Stingley/Nelson/Thomas/Smith/King
You cant convince me with solid, say Jimmy G type QB play that this team wouldn't win atleast 7 games, maybe more. Depth and speed abound. If y'all want a fast turn around this is the way to do it.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
What does winning 7 games with an injury prone qb like Jimmy G do for your team?
When is the last time a team where Jimmy G was the starting QB finished below .500?
Fans want improvement, this will give them improvement. Do you think the Texans will win more games with Young/Stroud at QB next yr?
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Now that we know who is running the show (NC) keeping in mind what happened last year #3…….. heat and fit that came with it. If Da Bears don’t trade out because they fall in love with Will Anderson and select him #1 overall (top rated prospect on most boards and high priority need) Caserio will be open for business to trade out of #2.
I doubt he trades in division to Colts, unless they make an offer he can’t refuse (for Bryce Young) next team up who fits his style/need and has the ammo (McCaffrey trade) is Carolina #9. Texans selection #2 is worth 2600 point’s according to Jimmy Johnson’s Trade Value Chart while Carolina’s is worth 1350. Throw in their own 2nd 49’ers 2nd and their 1st next year might be enough (final draft order tbd based off playoff results so not going to sweat out rest of points) just to give you general idea net return. That’s a lot of depth or NC can package parcel of his bounty to move back up for Carter if he slips because of QB run?
Texans retain Pep Hamilton as Mills QB coach (continuity and shown improvement) and wait for 2024 to target QB (SteelbTexan plan, aka NC gangster). Pulling both Jalen Carter, Quentin Johnson, in first. Edge rusher Adetomiwa Adebawore 2nd (49ers pick/Texans 2nd & Cleveland 3rd rd. pick traded to move up for Carter). And with Texans own 3rd select Cody Mauch LT North Dakota State as Tunsil insurance/replacement and adding Carolina’s #1 in 2024 to move up for Carter (expect Carolina to be improved).
Just spit balling but possibilities endless. Initially down and disappointed Texans lost #1 overall pick by winning a meaningless game but since Chicago has their QB and Anderson (their target) also Carter (another strong possibility) NC may be in a better position to trade down to stock the groceries with more premium players.
I doubt he trades in division to Colts, unless they make an offer he can’t refuse (for Bryce Young) next team up who fits his style/need and has the ammo (McCaffrey trade) is Carolina #9. Texans selection #2 is worth 2600 point’s according to Jimmy Johnson’s Trade Value Chart while Carolina’s is worth 1350. Throw in their own 2nd 49’ers 2nd and their 1st next year might be enough (final draft order tbd based off playoff results so not going to sweat out rest of points) just to give you general idea net return. That’s a lot of depth or NC can package parcel of his bounty to move back up for Carter if he slips because of QB run?
Texans retain Pep Hamilton as Mills QB coach (continuity and shown improvement) and wait for 2024 to target QB (SteelbTexan plan, aka NC gangster). Pulling both Jalen Carter, Quentin Johnson, in first. Edge rusher Adetomiwa Adebawore 2nd (49ers pick/Texans 2nd & Cleveland 3rd rd. pick traded to move up for Carter). And with Texans own 3rd select Cody Mauch LT North Dakota State as Tunsil insurance/replacement and adding Carolina’s #1 in 2024 to move up for Carter (expect Carolina to be improved).
Just spit balling but possibilities endless. Initially down and disappointed Texans lost #1 overall pick by winning a meaningless game but since Chicago has their QB and Anderson (their target) also Carter (another strong possibility) NC may be in a better position to trade down to stock the groceries with more premium players.
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Question now is, will the new coach bring in a new system?
What? Reset the Center market for Garrett Bradbury? The Vikings didn't even offer the guy the 5th year option. But you want to give him over $14 million AAV?
How many times do I have to fire you as GM of this forum?
By continuity, you mean continue to suck? No thank you.
He got bigger and stronger last offseason and has played really well for the Vikes this season. (You probably didn't know this) He's going to get paid.
If Cal hires Gannon then Reich/Zimmer will definitely bring in new systems. Same with Johnson and Ryans if he chooses to interview.
I'm not seeing where the Vikes offered a big contract extension. And I'd be concerned with a vet suddenly getting "bigger and stronger" after one offseason. One thing I do know is Bradbury isn't resetting the market.
They had a legit shot every year. You want to call that a failure? I’ll take that kind of failure over this sh!T show we’ve been stuck watching.
LVR #7? 7&38 and 2014 1st?
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Excellent job deciphering that post and pulling out a legitimate trade scenario, kick the can down the road a bit in order not to reach or force capital for needs.
Since this thread is dedicated to the top couple defensive players in this draft, at least one maybe both, still on the table #2 overall, would just like to affirm each worthy picks.
Would have liked a more competitive, fought national championship game, but from draft evaluation standpoint Jalen came out of it with flying colors.
Since this thread is dedicated to the top couple defensive players in this draft, at least one maybe both, still on the table #2 overall, would just like to affirm each worthy picks.
Would have liked a more competitive, fought national championship game, but from draft evaluation standpoint Jalen came out of it with flying colors.
- He is that rare disruptive 1 technique DT
- Versatility to play the 3 possibly or even the 5 techniques
- Absolutely commands double teams
- High motor for a big
- Looks to me like a 3 down linemen, showed great stamina/conditioning
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Brock Purdy has lost a game yet, correct? So why waste time on Jimmy when you can have Purdy? See how ridiculous that sounds? If you stack a team, yeah Jimmy can win some games, but you're the 1st one to say who is a contender and who is not. Let's say the Texans draft exactly like you laid out and sign who you want them to sign, they're still at a qb disadvantage in the AFC. I mean Carr has done more with less than Jimmy G and he can stay healthy also. At the end of the day, what are we really doing?
Health has always been Jimmy G's biggest issue. If Caserio has a mandate to win or you're gone, I could see Jimmy G being brought in.
Has Carr done more with less? I don't remember seeing Carr playing in a SB, should have been 2 SB's if Tartt had picked off that duck that Stafford threw right to him
Texian
Hall of Fame
Just another day in another Caserio FUBAR.
Texian
Hall of Fame
Now that my Adderal has kicked in, it's Will Anderson. Why? 34.5 sacks in 3 years. If the Bears do not trade back they will draft Anderson.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Really? Dude threw for 100 yds and they went to the superbowl. Did you not see what Carr did after Gruden being fired and Ruggs killing someone being a drunk driver? Purdy has played as well a Jimmy G
Will Purdy play as well in clutch situations in the playoffs?
I hope he does, I really like Lil Shanny and the fact that they went for it with the McCaffery trade.
On another note, I watched some of Hyatt last night and I really like him. I think he's strong enough to get off of the line right now in the NFL and if he isn't he appears to have the body type to add strength if needed. There's no doubt he's got the speed/wiggle needed to be a difference maker. He can play outside. IMHO I would pick him at 1-12 over Johnston. Kudos to you, I can definitely see what you see in Hyatt. This guy has big play written all over him.
You want to make this team dangerous then draft
1. Hyatt
2. Achane
3. Avila/Van Prann/Stromberg
3. Kincaid
Draft the right young QB and this offense would be young and very dangerous. World class speed to go with a great pass catching TE. Kincaid reminds me of Daniels.
Fill in the DT/LB/S positions in FA.
Draft defense next yr.
Mods move this post if need be. Thanks
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Treat yourself to Hendon Hooker highlights to see how special his connection with Hyatt could be in the NFL. I know the Texans would potentially need to wait until 2024 to see what they have in Hooker, but he could be ready before the 2023 season is complete. Hyatt’s 40 time will probably push him into RD1 and along side Johnston. Their speed and size will be hard to ignore.
Texian
Hall of Fame
I'm of the opinion that if Culley and Kelly had remained the Texans would've won more games.
Would that have been a good thing? 5 wins vs. 3?
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
I'm not sure if I've ever seen a guy like Hill who was a track athlete who was that good at football. I mean we've had Gault, Neimiyah? even the kid from UT who was an olympic level sprinter, Goodwin is his name. Hyatt has fly by speed that he uses for everything else. Not really Tyreeke because he's kind of a unicorn. I mean I like Johnson also, I just need to see how fast he can run which it always seem to be an issue with wrs his size. I mean Jefferson ran like 4.4 and he's about as big and he's the best wr in the nfl right now. Hyatt is a guy that makes defenses play 2 deep which opens everything else up.
Boris
All Pro
I don't see Johnston in the same light as Jefferson has much more wiggle than Johnston will ever have. Johnston is a big 4.4 guy who can break tackles on short passes for big gains and is a deep threat due to his size/speed. But he doesn't have a whole lot of wiggle in his game even though he's a good route runner for his size.
Hyatt has world class speed and a lot of wiggle. He reminds me of Waddle. Well worth pick 1-12. IMHO
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Yeah, Bullet Bob was just a fly route guy. He was great at what he was. I've never seen a wr with the acceleration from a standstill like Tyreeke. I mean this dude jumped in the air, caught a ball and as soon as his feet hit the ground, he outran the angle. I mean Moss was a bad dude too with his height and next speed. Hill from a stop and go to top speed, I've never seen anything like him.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
We’re on the same page…..Hill’s a great comparison. The only difference, Hyatt’s a bigger version of Hill and that’s not a bad thing in my book.
I’m still big on that Hooker to Hyatt connection….even if we had to wait a season to see it.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Having Hyatt would certainly add a special dynamic to the Texans. One thing his speed would do…..could really make Collins a nasty threat in the zone and Metchie just as dangerous as he was in Bama.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
what people don’t understand about Tyreke..he’s a football player who ran track..not a track athlete who plays football.
But you’re forgetting Santana Moss as well. Not as good as Tyreke, but in the same mold as a football player who was a monster in track and field as well.
zshawn10
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ben.aires.smith
Rookie
WOW! That's a serious charge also, not just some misdemeanor. He may go to jail for this. I guess Carter is off the table.
Reckless driving isn't a serious charge.
ben.aires.smith
Rookie
No. But reckless driving and street racing causing death is. At least where I'm from, that could lead to a vehicular homicide or involuntary manslaughter charge... Guessing it probably won't get that far, but damn. Young males are stupid animals at that age (I know I was).
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TexansFan15
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IMHO based on this comment is that Carter wouldn’t be an option.
