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Which off-season moves would you like the Texans to make? (Roster/FA)

Be open to trading JD if deal is good.

I'm baffled at how many fans want to trade Clowney. He's only 25 and on the upswing and is just now entering his prime.

I would trade Watt before I traded Clowney (not that I would trade either). I know that's blasphemy coming from a Houstonian but Watt is coming off yet another major injury and has stated in the past that he plans to retire once he hits the backside of his career.
 
One of the reasons why the Astros and Rockets GM's are so much better. They don't have any issues spending money on star- superstar players.

Hopefully they land their big fish, Mr. LT Solders.

Naw, you see the Astros tanked and home grew their talent then added key pieces to make a run. The Texans aren't in a place where the Astros are where one piece was the key to making a run. DM of the Rockets has always worked in a mindset of of finding value pieces and not overpaying for any players. The only big mistake Morey has made was Anderson contract and even then, that he managed to put the Rockets in position to eat the that Bullet. The Texans in my opinion has a piece in Watson, it's time to retool first without hurting our cap position first.


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For CB: EJ Gaines or if we’re gonna throw Butler money out there Kyle Fuller and see if Bears are willing to match. Fuller is the best CB on the market but Bears transition tagged him giving them opportunity to match any offer.
 
Lol @ Texans .. they want to sign Colvin? Should have kept the homegrown better option in Bouye .. then the guy who has a disease and subsequent substance abuse issue to deal with pain ? And the crown jewel would be to sign the very average Nate freaking Solder?? And people ok with paying him up to 15 per to make it happen? It's so sad you can only laugh.
 
I'm baffled at how many fans want to trade Clowney. He's only 25 and on the upswing and is just now entering his prime.

I would trade Watt before I traded Clowney (not that I would trade either). I know that's blasphemy coming from a Houstonian but Watt is coming off yet another major injury and has stated in the past that he plans to retire once he hits the backside of his career.
If deal is good... has to do with financial future and past injury history.
 
I'm baffled at how many fans want to trade Clowney. He's only 25 and on the upswing and is just now entering his prime.

I would trade Watt before I traded Clowney (not that I would trade either). I know that's blasphemy coming from a Houstonian but Watt is coming off yet another major injury and has stated in the past that he plans to retire once he hits the backside of his career.
You obviously don't keep up with the times or CnD. Clowney had his "prime" in college. He's been on borrowed time since his knee injury during his rookie year.
 
Jordy Nelson has been released. Jump on that Gain.
Wait to see what CnD says. Injuries have been an issue with him. I'd be down with a 2 yr, team friendly, deal if the doc is good with it. I wouldn't get into anything resembling a bidding war about it, though.
 
Would you guys be fine with paying Fuller 15 million per year? End the FA with Solder and Fuller for a combined 30 million, add Sitton and be done with it. Our secondary with KJ as a safety would be a huge strength all of a sudden and our OL would be more than serviceable. Only questionmarks left would be health, and perhaps HBs and TEs.
 
Naw, you see the Astros tanked and home grew their talent then added key pieces to make a run. The Texans aren't in a place where the Astros are where one piece was the key to making a run. DM of the Rockets has always worked in a mindset of of finding value pieces and not overpaying for any players. The only big mistake Morey has made was Anderson contract and even then, that he managed to put the Rockets in position to eat the that Bullet. The Texans in my opinion has a piece in Watson, it's time to retool first without hurting our cap position first.


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The Astros did not tank, they were that bad. But in the past three to four years they have been aggressive. Going after Verlander was huge.

Moray spent money on the limes of Jeremy Lin, Dwight Howard, and several other players.

Now given Brock that contract was a reach.

Now that we have the money, go out and get what you need. Look at how aggressive both the Titans and Jaguars are now. Those clubs wants to win and win now.
 
Would you guys be fine with paying Fuller 15 million per year? End the FA with Solder and Fuller for a combined 30 million, add Sitton and be done with it. Our secondary with KJ as a safety would be a huge strength all of a sudden and our OL would be more than serviceable. Only questionmarks left would be health, and perhaps HBs and TEs.
No way Fuller is playing with the big boys. How many complete games has he played compared to how many total games he could have? Still don't believe in his hands.
 
No way Fuller is playing with the big boys. How many complete games has he played compared to how many total games he could have? Still don't believe in his hands.

I haven‘t seen many games by him - which is why I asked the question. But looking at his stats - 16 games last season, 22 PD, 2 INTs, 69 tackles - sounds pretty good to me. He didn‘t miss a game before the 2016 season and he is still pretty young.
 
I haven‘t seen many games by him - which is why I asked the question. But looking at his stats - 16 games last season, 22 PD, 2 INTs, 69 tackles - sounds pretty good to me. He didn‘t miss a game before the 2016 season and he is still pretty young.
Sorry my mistake. Thought you were talking about WRs
 
I've stated this before, with a qb like Watson, the inside 3 is more important than the tackles. I'm not saying get turnstiles ,but with Watson, teams are gonna always contain rush him. So the tackles just need to make sure they don't get beat inside. If a de speed rush outside the tackles ,it creates a lane for Watson to step up and take off or step up to make a play. So if the Texans can solidify the inside triangle Watson will be better than alright . Looking at the prices for ol help, it would've been alot cheaper to keep Brown.
 
I'm baffled at how many fans want to trade Clowney. He's only 25 and on the upswing and is just now entering his prime.

I would trade Watt before I traded Clowney (not that I would trade either). I know that's blasphemy coming from a Houstonian but Watt is coming off yet another major injury and has stated in the past that he plans to retire once he hits the backside of his career.
I hear you but Watt will not have the financial component that Clowney will. Not really sure what you could get for Watt? Maybe a fifth or sixth? Clowney maybe a first plus third or fourth?
This team is so depleted thanks to Rick that we have multiple needs.

Just be clear I would not trade Watt
 
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No way he won't get offered at least 75 Million - that would be 15 Million per year. I could easily see him getting more than that. The question is: does he want to leave NE and is he willing to come to Houston.
Remember in all this excitement, that just a little while ago this was a guy that was contemplating retirement.
 
If we are still looking at CB's this is the order of my preference.

1. Fuller
2. Gaines
3. Trumaine (Jets)
4. Butler (Titans)

Someone asked if Fuller would be worth 15 per year, I would definitely consider it.
 
If we are still looking at CB's this is the order of my preference.

1. Fuller
2. Gaines
3. Trumaine (Jets)
4. Butler (Titans)

Someone asked if Fuller would be worth 15 per year, I would definitely consider it.
Take Butler off the table...........he will be going back to his old Patriots buddy Vrabel.

Fuller under the transition tag will find that the Bears will no doubt match any offers. He was already destined to make $13 million this season.
 
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Bridgewater has been taken by the Jets. Don't expect to see him make a mark with them, even if he can manage to stay on the field more than a couple of months.
 
So, Wilkerson is going to the Packers...nice. I really hope Brian Gaine has something up his sleeve because all the good Free Agents are pretty much gone. I wonder if he’s just going to use Free Agency for depth
 
The Astros did not tank, they were that bad. But in the past three to four years they have been aggressive. Going after Verlander was huge.

Moray spent money on the limes of Jeremy Lin, Dwight Howard, and several other players.

Now given Brock that contract was a reach.

Now that we have the money, go out and get what you need. Look at how aggressive both the Titans and Jaguars are now. Those clubs wants to win and win now.

If the Astros didn't tank, where were you before 2015 during Astros lost seasons. They underwent the purge, reloaded with young potential players, developed young potential players into awesome talent, then started to add icing on the cake when the timing was right. Didn't say Morey didn't spend money. Morey spends money where it needs to be spent, but overall looked for value in order to maintain cap flexibility. Morey is a example of a GM who plays Chess while all the other GMs plays checkers.

The Texans are still playing checkers and going out just to spend money isn't the move I believe the Texans need to make. Shore up that Oline and let's get some young talent in to develop.


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The Texans have ALWAYS been a day late and a dollar short when it comes to free agency. Remember in the early years when we thought they’d go after Orlando Pace when he was a FA to protect Carr. They were nowhere to be found. The only offseason the Texans have EVER made good FA moves was in 2011 when Wade Phillips went and got JJo and Manning. Again, those moves were made by Wade and not Tricky Rick who was a disaster in signing FAs.
So if you already knew they were going to completely screw up starting tomorrow, why complain today? You should have been complaining two months ago about how the Texans screwed up free agency in 2018. By now you should be crying about the train wreck of 2019 free agency and the dumpster fires of 2020 through 2099 free agency. Better yet, just move on to a Patriots or Browns message board.
 
So if you already knew they were going to completely screw up starting tomorrow, why complain today? You should have been complaining two months ago about how the Texans screwed up free agency in 2018. By now you should be crying about the train wreck of 2019 free agency and the dumpster fires of 2020 through 2099 free agency. Better yet, just move on to a Patriots or Browns message board.

I can see you're still having a hard time playing with others.

Why dont you just leave, instead of trying to tell others what they should be doing.
 
I’d kill to have Ramsey or Bouye on this team. I was screaming my head off last off-season when we let AJ walk. Bouye is exactly the type of ascending player that a smart GM signs to a big deal. Instead Tricky Rick let him walk. History will show Rick was the worst GM in NFL history who kept his job as long as he did.
It's not prison. If a guy from Florida wants to sign with a team in Florida you can't force him to sign with you (other than the franchise tag). But we get it. You hate every player on this team from the Rick Smith era, and you are going to hate every player from the Brian Gaine era.
 
It's not prison. If a guy from Florida wants to sign with a team in Florida you can't force him to sign with you (other than the franchise tag). But we get it. You hate every player on this team from the Rick Smith era, and you are going to hate every player from the Brian Gaine era.

Fact is if Ricky wanted Bouye here, he would be here.
 
I can see you're still having a hard time playing with others.

Why dont you just leave, instead of trying to tell others what they should be doing.
Maybe we should have a Patriots forum for all the Texans haters here with "tex" in their username.
 
Maybe we should have a Patriots forum for all the Texans haters here with "tex" in their username.

Or at least a forum that's not so anal about putting everything in one god damn thread.

Checking in all day to get the vibe on the new signings and nothing. Should have known it would be in one all encompassing pissing contest thread having nothing to do with new signings.
 
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