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The Actual and Real 2017 Texans Talk Mock Draft Extravaganza

NY Giants select RB Donnel Pumphrey San Diego State

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Name: Donnel Pumphrey

School: San Diego State

Position fit: Running back

Stats to know: Broke the FBS all-time leading rushing yards mark in 2016. Only player to eclipse 200 missed tackles forced as a runner over the past three seasons combined.

What he does best:

  • Elite quickness on cuts and change of direction.
  • Excellent vision at both the first level to find a crease, and to find cut back lanes in the second level and beyond.
  • Small size and quick burst allow him to get through tight holes, and even creases that barely exist. Does well “hiding” behind the offensive line.
  • Decisiveness and quickness to and through the line of scrimmage can beat defenders to spots, even on times when defensive linemen win into the point of attack.
  • Possesses very good balance, and can spin off contact to stay upright.
  • An effective receiver in space, who can also be moved into the slot to create personnel mismatches.
  • From 2014 to 2016, he had 19-plus touches in 38 of his 41 games and averaged 24.8 touches per game. Had over 1,150 career touches, showing that durability should not be a concern.
Biggest concerns:

  • Played against a slightly lesser level of competition in the Mountain West Conference. Had only a handful of games against Power-5 teams in his career, and faced some questionable defenses there, too.
  • While he’s shown to be capable of overcoming bad blocks and murky reads, he did run behind a pretty good offensive line that helped him get into open space a little more often than some other players.
  • Not strong or big enough to take on pass rushers up high. Does a good job with cut blocks but may not be as effective with those against better athletes in the NFL.
  • Will the large college workload catch up to him at some point, or shorten his pro career?
Player comparison: Warrick Dunn

Among the reasons that Dunn was so successful was his ability to run inside despite his small stature. Pumphrey shows many of the same skills that Dunn possessed: great vision, quick change of direction, and finding his way through tight areas.

Bottom line: Pumphrey is the ultimate production player who became FBS’s all-time leading rusher in his senior season. He did so in a San Diego State offense that is heavily a pro-style, under-center offense while being far on the small end of the spectrum of running back size. He’s never going to be a player that moves piles and there will be times where he gets very little yardage after contact. However, the yards that he won’t gain through contact due to his size will be more than offset by his ability to get through holes that others simply cannot. He has proven to be an effective inside runner because of his ability to find and get through those tight creases, or sometimes through the first level when holes are seemingly non-existent. Coupled with a quick burst that allows him to beat defenders to spots, he’s more than capable of being an inside runner. He does even better when in space and can be utilized as a receiver both out of the backfield and lined up in the slot. Pumphrey could be used as a change-of-pace back, a third-down back, or a chess piece to move around the offense to create mismatches. Regardless of the exact role, he is capable of being an impactful player at the next level.


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  • 4.48 SEC 40
  • 5 REPS bp
  • 33.5 INCH vert
  • 117.0 INCH bj

  • 5'8"HEIGHT
  • 29"ARM LENGTH
  • 176LBS.WEIGHT
  • 8 1/2"HANDS
OVERVIEW

Pumphrey and Ron Dayne are now the top two rushers in FBS history, even though San Diego State's small and quick runner (listed at 5-foot-9, 180 pounds) couldn't be any different in style than the brutish former Heisman Trophy winner. Pumphrey beat the record in his final game, finishing off an All-American season where he led with nation with 2,133 rushing yards on 349 carries (tied for most in FBS) and 17 scores (along with 27-231 receiving). He won the Mountain West Offensive Player of the Year this fall, repeating the honor he was given in 2015 for covering 1,653 yards and scoring 17 touchdowns on 309 carries. He also led the Aztecs with 28 receptions, accumulating 416 yards and three scores. Pumphrey set a school record with 1,867 yards while scoring 20 times as a sophomore, earning the first of three first-team All-Mountain West accolades. As a freshman, he only started one game but still had 256 totes for 1,244 yards and 15 touchdowns (with 22-234, two TD receiving).

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Produced at high levels. Patient but decisive when he sees it. Accesses instant turbo burst. Rarely loses races to and around the edge. Plus vision creates ability to navigate shifting run creases like a seasoned veteran. Slaloms through traffic from side to side with seamless, tight jump cuts. Keeps tight track through the gaps, maintaining distance from defensive linemen. Able to string moves together. Razor-sharp cutbacks at challenging angles are his thing. Made a rare 90-degree cut out of a downhill run against South Alabama. Excels in outside zone but has courage to stick it between tackles. Extremely elusive in open field after catch. Used as matchup weapon out of backfield. Good route runner who creates necessary separation.
WEAKNESSES
Undersized. Lacks the leg thickness and overall physical strength desired out of an NFL running back. Spirit is willing but flesh is weak. Arm tackles are able to end his journey. Willing to accelerate into defender, but doesn't have the pop to break tackles or fall forward after contact. Quicker than fast. Will get caught from behind. Body catcher with average hands that lead to double catches. Too small to protect against NFL blitzers as third-down back.
SOURCES TELL US
"I don't care how big he is, he's a good player. Look, he's tiny so you can't take him too early because there's risk in putting a skinny runner out there. You have to have an offense that makes sense for him but everyone I talk to on the road likes the talent. The size is going to be the only concern." -- AFC West scout
NFL COMPARISON
Tyler Ervin
BOTTOM LINE
Pumphrey is an efficient, natural back who runs with outstanding tempo and vision. Has outstanding agility and ability to disappear and leave tacklers grasping at air in open field. While he has good burst and quickness, he does lack the home-run speed expected from such small running backs. He won't even be an option for teams married to physical minimums, but there is a place on the roster for his talent provided he can become a return man or viable receiving option as well.
 
On the clock until 2:00 is @banned1976 and the Raiders at #168.

Following will be the Texans group pick #169. If you don't think you can make it, please send in your choice via PM.
 
If I were drafting for the Texans my draft would of looked like

1.) Dan Feeney T/G/C or OJ Howard TE
Most likely Feeney.
2.) Tarell Bashan DE
3.) Nathan Peterman QB
4.) James Conner RB
4.) Ryan Switzer WR best slot WR in draft.
 
With the 168th pick in the 2017 NFL draft the Raiders select Noah Brown, WR Ohio

Not a need but I feel he could be good with a couple seasons in the NFL.
 
I nominate Elijah Hood (RB, North Carolina) to replace Alfred Blue as our power back. Powerful interior guy who can play all 3 downs.
 
Texans draft so far:

1.25 Deshaun Watson – QB, Clemson
2.57 Taylor Moton – OT, Western Michigan
3.89 Tyus Bowser – OLB, Houston
4.130 John Johnson – S, Boston College
4.142 Elijah Lee – ILB, Kansas St
 
I nominate D.J. Jones - NT, Mississippi

Rotational NT that can work in with Reader and give us a second big guy in the middle.

I considered another OL but I just don't see any guys left that I'm high on at all. Also considered Elijah Hood. I just think Jones gives us the best bang for our buck here.
 
If I were drafting for the Texans my draft would of looked like

1.) Dan Feeney T/G/C or OJ Howard TE
Most likely Feeney.
2.) Tarell Bashan DE
3.) Nathan Peterman QB
4.) James Conner RB
4.) Ryan Switzer WR best slot WR in draft.

difficult to accomplish, know Peterman made it to Texans pick #89 could see a move higher to secure him.
 
Brendan Langley, 2 - TexansSeminole, jradMIT
D.J. Jones, 2 - bah007, Mollywhopper
Elijah Hood, 1 - WolverineFan
Dan Skipper, 1 - mussop
Eddie Vanderdoes, 1 - Lucky
 
I would pick Robert Davis, WR - Georgia St - I think he is the best player by a large margin still on the board - but those are just my rankings. WR is not a large need but IMO he has Julio Jones type ceiling and finding that in the 5th round is ridiculous. When the real draft happens I expect him to go on the 2nd day. 6'-3", 219 lb WRs who run 4.44, vert 41" and broad jump 11'-4" with production and great intangibles to match don't last.

Having said that if we can't draft Davis, I am happy with DJ Jones or Jon Toth - C/OG - Kentucky

I would love to have landed a slot corner but we missed that train.
 
Brendan Langley is a guy who is very inexperienced, but showed that when he finally got his chances, he improved quite dramatically. Played a lot of press in college in a scheme that didn't play a lot of different coverages. Good intangibles and good/great height-weight-speed. Ball skills are good, tackling is average.

He's raw and will need a season to adjust in order to learn different coverages and just gain experience at the position overall, as he played some receiver at Georgia and Lamar. I think if you stick him on scout team or find a way for him to get significant reps in practice in his rookie year, he can come back in his second year showing a lot of improvement.

This low, I look for guys with the intangibles and physical traits that have shown that they can improve when they are put in a position to do so. This guy fits that like a glove.
 
Does anyone else think Feeney is under rated? I think he's better than lamp. IMO he's the closest thing to Zack Martin I've seen come out since Martin.
 
Brendan Langley is a guy who is very inexperienced, but showed that when he finally got his chances, he improved quite dramatically. Played a lot of press in college in a scheme that didn't play a lot of different coverages. Good intangibles and good/great height-weight-speed. Ball skills are good, tackling is average.

He's raw and will need a season to adjust in order to learn different coverages and just gain experience at the position overall, as he played some receiver at Georgia and Lamar. I think if you stick him on scout team or find a way for him to get significant reps in practice in his rookie year, he can come back in his second year showing a lot of improvement.

This low, I look for guys with the intangibles and physical traits that have shown that they can improve when they are put in a position to do so. This guy fits that like a glove.

He has measurables but the play is no where close to where it needs to be to make a NFL roster IMO. I would not want to use a 5th round pick on a player that will likely need to go to the practice squad.
 
Does anyone else think Feeney is under rated? I think he's better than lamp. IMO he's the closest thing to Zack Martin I've seen come out since Martin.

Don't think he's underrated much at all, as often regarded as the best pure G in the draft. Just think there's only so much value going to be committed to an interior lineman while a guy like Lamp is more or less as good (depending on who you talk to) and can line up more reliably outside in a pinch.

I personally have thought that Feeney is a tad overrated actually. He's pretty freakin good but I don't see anything off the chart outstanding.
 
He has measurables but the play is no where close to where it needs to be to make a NFL roster IMO. I would not want to use a 5th round pick on a player that will likely need to go to the practice squad.

I don't think he ends up on the practice squad, he'd end up competing with Nelson for the fourth CB. The guy has the underlying skill set to be a solid starter on the outside in time.
 
Don't think he's underrated much at all, as often regarded as the best pure G in the draft. Just think there's only so much value going to be committed to an interior lineman while a guy like Lamp is more or less as good (depending on who you talk to) and can line up more reliably outside in a pinch.

I personally have thought that Feeney is a tad overrated actually. He's pretty freakin good but I don't see anything off the chart outstanding.

Shoot IMO he's hands down the best interior OL in this draft.
 
I'll jump on board the D Jones express.

I've been banging ok about DL depth for the last 3 rounds so I'll support what momentum there is for anybody in that area.

Nice pick up of Glasgow Mussop, I was hoping he'd fall to this Texans pick.
 
He has measurables but the play is no where close to where it needs to be to make a NFL roster IMO. I would not want to use a 5th round pick on a player that will likely need to go to the practice squad.

I like him more than Nelson or Rice. I think he easily makes the roster, I just don't see him contributing successfully right away.
 
Shoot IMO he's hands down the best interior OL in this draft.

IMO, Elflein is the best guard if you run a downhill scheme (watch his 2015 tape, he is a power guard, not a center). Lamp is by far the most athletic and the best zone guard option. Feeney is a versatile mix, somewhere between Elflein and Lamp, thus just depends on what your team is looking for.
 
D.J. Jones (7) - Mollywhopper, bah007, beerlover, mussop, PapaL, kiwitexansfan, Max
Brendan Langley (2) - TexansSeminole, jradMIT
Robert Davis (2) - gs27, TheRealJoker
Elijah Hood (1) - WolverineFan
Eddie Vanderdoes (1) - Lucky
 
Vanderdoes is an intriguing prospect Lucky.

Just read up on him.

Wonder if he just needs time to fully recover his athleticism or if he's broken for good.
 
Corey Clement RB Wisconsin.
Let's beef up that ground game - Miller can't do it all on his own and our second option does not inspire.
Clement is good value here.
 
There is so much day 3 talent in this years draft. I will be upset if we sacrifice a day 3 pick to move up a couple of spots in any round. Plenty of talent, just need to let this draft come to us and if we get a chance to collect a couple extra picks by moving back, even better.
 
There is so much day 3 talent in this years draft. I will be upset if we sacrifice a day 3 pick to move up a couple of spots in any round. Plenty of talent, just need to let this draft come to us and if we get a chance to collect a couple extra picks by moving back, even better.
I agree I really want to consider moving from the back of the first to the early middle of the second if "our guy" is gone, pick up extra picks this is a good year to have extra day 3 picks.
 
I've got pretty firm views on the running back position. I hate to draft them, there is so much production found in UDFA and disregarded prospects.

That and they have such short life spans normally make them poor use of draft collateral.
 
With pick #170 Kansas City selects C.J. Beathard - QB, Iowa

KC lost Chase Daniel and Nick Foles in FA in back to back years so they need to invest in a new backup. Beathard is a pro ready QB with limited upside but he should be a solid backup and possibly a game managing bridge QB that can take over after Alex Smith.
 
With pick #171 Buffalo selects Jordan Evans - LB, Oklahoma.

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Buffalo is continuing its transition into a new defensive system. We nabbed Haason Reddick earlier to play the SAM position. We already have Reggie Ragland to play the MIKE. Now we're adding Evans to be our new WILL.

@gs27 is on the clock for Green Bay.
 
With pick #170 Kansas City selects C.J. Beathard - QB, Iowa

KC lost Chase Daniel and Nick Foles in FA in back to back years so they need to invest in a new backup. Beathard is a pro ready QB with limited upside but he should be a solid backup and possibly a game managing bridge QB that can take over after Alex Smith.

Anyone see potential for anything more than backup QB in Bearthard?
 
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