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Texans Wide Receivers
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leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Quinn just went for a 4th, I doubt Cooks yields anything better.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Only way I see Cooks traded is for the “player request” trade like Ingram to Saints last season. But I am hopeful that they draw their line on “good guy” trades and keep him. If you don’t get proper value don’t trade him. It’s a business.
ben.aires.smith
Rookie
And James Robinson 2 days ago went for a sixth (!) round pick I believe, although he is RFA at year's end. Not a chance in hell Cooks, who is probably in decline, gets anything below a 4th. At least, I'd be tremendously shocked.
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The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
That might be what the tweet is about: no one offering enough to trade him.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
No pity for the guy who signed a contract extension knowing he is playing WR in a Pep Hamilton/Davis Mills offense.
Not an Andy Reid/Patrick Mahomes offense.
ben.aires.smith
Rookie
I actually hope we keep Cooks because if Nico Collins misses extended action, Mills needs something to work with outside. He already works with a below average receiving core, and giving him nothing is really not fair for his evaluation. Even a Cooks in decline is better than nothing.
It’s not worth the dead money to trade him for a 4th
if Nick does this he never should have restructured that contract.
Trading Cooks for a 4th now is a bad move for a rebuilding team
texanhead08
All Pro
Lovie needs to learn its not the Texan way to be honest about injuries. He is supposed to say day to day that means he is either out for the year or he died of natural causes.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
You mean above a 4th?
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
That dude has checked out, you can tell especially if he's supposed to be a culture guy. Tunsil is just a pro. He comes in , does his job,gets paid, and goes home. I wouldn't give him away, but he's in his feelings and probably tired of losing. KGH go his release because he has no value. Quinn had 18.5 sacks last year and went for a 4th to a team already top 5 in defense. I like Cooks, I really do, but it makes no sense keeping around.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
What did they get for Cunningham who was younger on a deal?
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
Upon further review, the cost of moving Cooks wouldn't make since this season or in 2023. I'd like to see Pep get a little creative with his receivers by rotating Cooks, Moore and Dorsett from the 1, 2, and Slot spots.....even within the same series. Get the TE's a little more involved with some rub plays to free up the receivers and exposing the seems with Aikens and Howard.
Yeah, moving him this year would require other moves to free up the cap space, but they could probably find a way for sufficient compensation
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
It makes sense to let KGH walk now that Christian Harris is healthy. There are young LBs the team needs to see more of for development and evaluation.
The WRs however do not have that young talented player waiting for reps. Especially now that Collins is injured. Cooks is staying whether he likes it or not.
The WRs however do not have that young talented player waiting for reps. Especially now that Collins is injured. Cooks is staying whether he likes it or not.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
I wonder how Cooks contract could be reworked to get around that dead money. Would the Texans have to guarantee it or convert it to a bonus and then trade him?
But to just get a 4th is probably not worth the trouble.
But to just get a 4th is probably not worth the trouble.
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Just saw a few rumors about Cooks being traded soon. But nothing positive linking him to anyone or them to him.
Could they restructure his contract to pay him all the remaining monies (~ 22M) as a signing bonus on a 1 week contract? Or maybe a sign and trade?
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
If the Texans are serious about moving Cooks, then Caserio needs to go shopping. I could get behind adding a couple of low cost, in terms of trades, players before the deadline.
1. Denzel Mims- Jets / I'd contact the Jets about a Mims for Cooks deal and if it's a no go....offer the Jets a RD4 for Mims.
2. Marquez Callaway- Saints / I'd ask them for a RD5 and Callaway (RFA 2023) for Cooks. It would be interesting to see the Saints trade to bring Cooks back.
1. Denzel Mims- Jets / I'd contact the Jets about a Mims for Cooks deal and if it's a no go....offer the Jets a RD4 for Mims.
2. Marquez Callaway- Saints / I'd ask them for a RD5 and Callaway (RFA 2023) for Cooks. It would be interesting to see the Saints trade to bring Cooks back.
vtech9
All Pro
Do the Rams, Chiefs, or Packers have anyone we would be willing to take in a 1/1 trade? They seem to be the top 3 teams mentioned.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
I’m going to look. I also think Caserio could window shop PS players as well.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Give me LB Rashan Gray from the Packers m.
Give me LB Ernest Jones from the Rams
Give me a good defensive player from Kansas.
lol man I don’t know
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
vtech9
All Pro
Speaking of the Browns.... Would you trade Cooks for Kareem Hunt?
If you want to really suck then you make the trade. That's not a bad thing to suck and add a 3rd rd pick. What this really signals to me is that the Texans aren't going to be players in FA next off-season if a Cooks trade is made. That's not really a bad thing either.
You're looking at adding a Myles Jack type LB in FA rather than Smith.
Probably a 2nd.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
No.
I want draft picks or a starter on defense. And not OB’s definition of starters like Mingo. Actual players.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Chiefs just traded for Toney
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
I think if they wanted Myles Jack, they could've had him last year. I'm not saying its a bad move, I'm just saying. Plus, isn't he 30 now or close to it?
Texansballer74
The Marine
Yes, but the McNairs wouldn't
Maybe maybe not, Jack probably wanted to play for a contender. Anyways, a guy in the same tier as Jack. I was just throwing a name out there.
I wouldn’t say a 1st. Two threes. Maybe I’d settle for 2 4ths in the next draft.
vtech9
All Pro
Since the Chiefs just got Toney from the Giants, does that open up the Giants as a possible trade target for Cooks?
Texansballer74
The Marine
Strong possibility
Doubtful
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Maybe
Texansballer74
The Marine
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
I just don't see Cooks traded to add $15m dead money to the cap, need to cut players or restructure just to trade. I think NC has to get a heck of an offer to go through that
How do you get $15M dead money if traded?
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
His total contract was $40M. If traded post June 1, dead money is about $8M minus what he's earned. But you are correct, his contract would have to be restructured to trade him
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Looks like he is potentially pulling a Ramsey with the well-timed wrist injury making him questionable this week.
Rich Schmidt
Myopicone
I read the following on SI.com, so it is more than $8m:
Financially, the Texans would take on $8.782 million in dead money this year and $16.22 million in dead money in 2023 if they traded Cooks. They would net just $967,533 in net cap savings immediately this year and $10.398 million in 2023.
Financially, the Texans would take on $8.782 million in dead money this year and $16.22 million in dead money in 2023 if they traded Cooks. They would net just $967,533 in net cap savings immediately this year and $10.398 million in 2023.
Just do the deal if you can get a 3rd for Cooks. I would even throw in a 5th with Cooks to get the 3rd.
Still, the $8M this year makes it no deal unless they restructure the contract
