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Dejaview
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There is a Tommy Alverson song (Purty Boys) with a line that says that (the lines in our faces are where the story’s told”. With that I’d like to see Pitts and his deadpan demeanor in a commercial. Could have fun with that one.
Dejaview
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Really I don’t give a **** what they call it as long as they clean up last years mess. Call it Charmin for all I care.
This is a mess created many years in the making.
What O’Brien was allowed to do to this team is criminal.
I call it taking out the Clemson trash.
There is a survey about what fans spend at NFL stadiums. Considering the on-field product. Anyone surprised by our ranking?
The NFL Fans Who Spend the Most and Least Money on Their Team [2021 Survey] | FinanceBuzz
- #1 on in-stadium food and drink ($169.95)
- #4 on in-stadium alcoholic beverages ($59.23)
- #1 on team merchandise and gear ($380.17)
The NFL Fans Who Spend the Most and Least Money on Their Team [2021 Survey] | FinanceBuzz
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paycheck71
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Not surprised by food and alcohol. The food is good, so might as well enjoy. Surprised by merchandise. #1 by a mile.
I forgot gear. Updated my post. Without Watt and Watson, that number might be significantly less next year.
Dejaview
All Pro
I’m surprised and extremely disappointed. how in the hell did we fall to #4 on in-stadium alcoholic beverages?
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
I dropped my season tickets.
badboy
Hall of Fame
New Corner rasul Douglas may get us closer to that ranking of number 17. 60 tackles with one for loss with 9 passes defended is pretty good if report is true.
Source: Texans Signing Vet CB from Raiders
Source: Houston signs Raiders castoff Rasul Douglas
www.si.com
badboy
Hall of Fame
Detroit, Philly and Jags
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
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First of all, please do not post comments or questions re. transactions in the player transaction thread (you're not the only one that continues to do so despite repeated requests not to do so)......it would be very much appreciated since it makes it much more difficult to search for specific transactions.
You can do what I've done here............quote the post in the player transaction thread, copying it into an appropriate thread........then answering or questioning it there.
To answer your question, confirmation by the Houston Chronicle https://www.houstonchronicle.com/te...ns-sign-cornerback-Rasul-Douglas-16409200.php and SI https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/source-texans-signing-veteran-corner-rasul-douglas
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
New Corner rasul Douglas may get us closer to that ranking of number 17. 60 tackles with one for loss with 9 passes defended is pretty good if report is true.
Source: Texans Signing Vet CB from Raiders
Source: Houston signs Raiders castoff Rasul Douglas
Douglas is a solid tall long armed zone specific outside CB signing. Good addition at this point of the offseason. Will compete with Terrence Mitchell for that #2 job to Roby and provide much needed depth… and hopefully get Hargreaves off the team.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I feel a lot better this week about the secondary with the additions of Hollman and Douglas than I did before. Hollman is a plus height/weight/athleticism guy. Should excel on ST and be able to play on defense in a pinch.
Douglas is a serviceable #2 CB in Lovie’s D. Between Roby, Mitchell, King and Douglas we just may have a CB room that is solid this season!
If Reid can stay healthy and Lonnie Johnson can successfully transition to safety then the secondary will be able to produce some turnovers and not be a complete doormat to opposing teams this season.
Getting interested in the Lovie Smith defense filled with bluecollar players with chips on their shoulder!
Douglas is a serviceable #2 CB in Lovie’s D. Between Roby, Mitchell, King and Douglas we just may have a CB room that is solid this season!
If Reid can stay healthy and Lonnie Johnson can successfully transition to safety then the secondary will be able to produce some turnovers and not be a complete doormat to opposing teams this season.
Getting interested in the Lovie Smith defense filled with bluecollar players with chips on their shoulder!
banned1976
sleeper mode
The operative word you mentioned is “serviceable”. That’s who the Texans are right now, until they can start filling out their roster with good, young talent (the Texans are currently one of the oldest teams in the league when it comes to the age of their roster). Douglas is another one of those veterans that Caserio signed to a one year contract.
The Texans are treading water this year.
I liked Douglas coming out of college. A ballhawk who wasn't afraid of supporting against the run. But, I have to wonder if his lack of speed might push Douglas to Safety? Texans CB coach Dino Vasso coached Douglas for 3 years in Philly, so he should have a good idea how best to implement his abilities.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Best case scenario he’s Brandon Browner with the Seahawks. Interesting note the coaching connection. Obviously Vasso believes he can come in and help the team since the Texans signed him so quickly after his release.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The Texans will be facing Trevor Lawrence against the Jags in week 1.
Dejaview
All Pro
Wow, I can always count on reading your posts to learn everything I didn’t know. Thanks!
They can charge such a premium when the demand is significantly higher than supply .... 72,220 seats in a metroplex of over 7 million people.
I'd wager that there's not 5 teams who have similar population to capacity - Dallas , NYJ , NYG & LA ....
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Texans brought in LB Tahir Whitehead for a workout.
www.google.com
A player with history starting at each of the 3 LB positions. Left without a deal, not a player you want starting for you but a 9 year vet who has been a starter majority of career.
Could be Caserio just kicking tires on a vet. But bringing in a LB for a workout that isn’t a ST specialist tells me one of our starting LBs may be acquired at final cutdown.
With the extra cap space would be interesting if Texans traded for Jaylon Smith, listed by Rosenthal as a trade candidate:
www.nfl.com
Texans worked out veteran LB Tahir Whitehead
Tahir Whitehead got a look from the Texans earlier this week.
www.google.com
A player with history starting at each of the 3 LB positions. Left without a deal, not a player you want starting for you but a 9 year vet who has been a starter majority of career.
Could be Caserio just kicking tires on a vet. But bringing in a LB for a workout that isn’t a ST specialist tells me one of our starting LBs may be acquired at final cutdown.
With the extra cap space would be interesting if Texans traded for Jaylon Smith, listed by Rosenthal as a trade candidate:
2021 NFL roster bubble: Notable players who could be traded or cut
NFL teams must get down to a 53-man roster by Tuesday, August 31. With that deadline fast approaching, Gregg Rosenthal spotlights notable players who could be traded or cut, including Cowboys LB Jaylon Smith and Patriots CB Stephon Gilmore.
www.nfl.com
Texans brought in LB Tahir Whitehead for a workout.
Texans worked out veteran LB Tahir Whitehead
Tahir Whitehead got a look from the Texans earlier this week.
A player with history starting at each of the 3 LB positions. Left without a deal, not a player you want starting for you but a 9 year vet who has been a starter majority of career.
Could be Caserio just kicking tires on a vet. But bringing in a LB for a workout that isn’t a ST specialist tells me one of our starting LBs may be acquired at final cutdown.
With the extra cap space would be interesting if Texans traded for Jaylon Smith, listed by Rosenthal as a trade candidate:
2021 NFL roster bubble: Notable players who could be traded or cut
NFL teams must get down to a 53-man roster by Tuesday, August 31. With that deadline fast approaching, Gregg Rosenthal spotlights notable players who could be traded or cut, including Cowboys LB Jaylon Smith and Patriots CB Stephon Gilmore.
Smith is not good, although he made a bunch of tackles last yr.
lol This is from Bleacher Report:
"In a survey conducted by The Athletic's Ben Standig, one anonymous agent said "a lot of league folks" have compared McNair to the movie Tommy Boy.
The comment came in a poll in which 33 NFL-certified agents voted on a series of topics. Houston received the most votes (11) when asked which team had the worst offseason. No other team received more than three votes."
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
A lot of reason to bash Mcnair, but an agent’s take is not the best one. The Texans gave out a lot of “lowball” deals this free agency. Gone is the GM OB gravy train that probably had an effect on a few agents polled.
Carr Bombed
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Hey don't insult Tommy like that..
He was a American hero who saved a entire town (Sandusky Ohio).. Cal is more comparable to the buffoon con who was trying to sabotage Tommy at every turn.. or is that Bill & Jack 
Exactly. And I'm certain Tommy Callahan finished college (7 years) faster than Kyle did.Hey don't insult Tommy like that..
I don't know about any particular number, but King and Mitchell are improvements over what the Texans got last year.
Thomas may have some upside.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Charmin has already been taken as it is the name of our defensive back corps.
It's not so much about putting stock in the opinions of agents, but rather the on-going national (and local) perception by just about everyone that is in complete alignment with the perspective that Cal McNair is a below average owner.
People in the building are calling him Tommy Boy. Let that sink in. Dude's reputation about being in an office without furniture at NRG playing Madden is what it is.
Agents understand why the Texans (with very little cap room) gave out smaller deals. Actually, they spent more $$$ than many expected by renegotiating previous contracts. They voted the Texans offseason as the worst because it was the worst. No one person owns that. It was a group effort that took years in the making. But it has been hands down the worst.
Nobody said he was playing Madden.Dude's reputation about being in an office without furniture at NRG playing Madden is what it is.
I imagined he was playing Mario Kart.
banned1976
sleeper mode
I imagined Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
banned1976
sleeper mode
banned1976
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Texansballer74
The Marine
Lol so much for Warring becoming a all pro TE with the Patriots.
When is the US team having their next water polo tryouts? With the their injuries at TE, the Saints might still be interested.
Dejaview
All Pro
Wish they would have shopped him, but I’m guessing they did. He’s fragile.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Thinking of the talent level of the defense and expectations for them this morning.
The 2002 Houston Texans defense was average/below average statistically having to support the worst offense in the league. 16th in yards and 20th in points. They had two pro bowlers (Aaron Glenn and Gary Walker).
www.pro-football-reference.com
Will this defense be able to put up a similar performance? I’d say depth is better across the board but I don’t believe there is a player the caliber of Glenn and Walker on this defense (I hope to be proven wrong). But plenty of solid Jamie Sharper, Seth Payne, Marcus Coleman types.
The 2002 Houston Texans defense was average/below average statistically having to support the worst offense in the league. 16th in yards and 20th in points. They had two pro bowlers (Aaron Glenn and Gary Walker).
2002 Houston Texans Rosters, Stats, Schedule, Team Draftees | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Check out the 2002 Houston Texans Roster, Stats, Schedule, Team Draftees, Injury Reports and more on Pro-Football-Reference.com.
www.pro-football-reference.com
Will this defense be able to put up a similar performance? I’d say depth is better across the board but I don’t believe there is a player the caliber of Glenn and Walker on this defense (I hope to be proven wrong). But plenty of solid Jamie Sharper, Seth Payne, Marcus Coleman types.
I have to disagree with that. The Texans have some guys that have flashed potential. But those were 3 solid, proven vets. The 2021 defense can’t come close to that expansion defense. They were special.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
I’d put Roby, Cunningham and Jordan Jenkins in their same category off the top of my head. Kirksey too if he stays healthy.
Justin Reid as the wild card who could reach a pro bowl level if the moons align!
I’d like to add Omenihu to the wild card list but he is unproven. I have liked what i’ve seem from him this preseason though.
I do miss that 2002 Houston Texans defense. They made the expansion season fun to watch. Especially the Steelers win!
No. Not close. Roby has been a head case and has poor ball skills. O'Brien overpaid Cunningham, who has mediocre LB instincts. Jenkins? Kirksey? Look at the contracts they signed. That's what the league thinks of them.
The 2002 Texans defense didn't have talent across the board. But, they had 5-6 excellent to very good defenders. Could have been a playoff defense had they not been saddled with an expansion offense. There's absolutely no comparison between the 2 defenses.
Historically, I would put this years defense over only 3 past Texans defenses. The 2005 unit, where Walker and Coleman were on their last legs, and the 1st round rookies (Robinson & Babin) were still finding their way. The 2010 defense, which had much more talent but were the worst coached unit on any side of the ball in Texans history. And last year's defense. If and only if Hargreaves never plays.
I'm really excited to see Kirksey & Cunningham with better coaching
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Agree to disagree.
When I think of solid players I think of players who can start for majority of teams in the league. The players I put in that category for this team can do that. The solid players on the 2002 Texans defense compare similarly to them when comparing their career stats to the current Texans I mentioned as well. Sure there’s sentimental value for the expansion defense players. But aside from the two pro bowlers (Glenn and Walker) they had solid players (Sharper, Payne, Coleman). Not necessarily excellent or very good starters. I’d consider that category fringe pro bowl, first alternate types. Those guys could start for majority of the league when they played but I wouldn’t say they were going to be pro bowl alternates.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Much more LB friendly scheme fit for all of the LBs. I think if Lopez is a hit and can be the Booger Mcfarland tying up blockers they will really play to their potential.
Dejaview
All Pro
And
don’t forget the big unknown…seems many of these players on D are getting a chance to play their natural positions in a scheme that respects their speed and athleticism.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
With the news of JK Dobbins likely suffering a torn ACL do you think there’s a possibility Mark Ingram gets traded back to the Ravens?
Would free up a roster spot for Scottie Phillips!
Would free up a roster spot for Scottie Phillips!