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If he wants to keep butts in the seats...he SHOULD STOP throwing 4th quarter interceptions that result in TOUCHDOWNS! He wants revenge on us? Hey Matt...WIN your remaining games baby!
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I don't know what section you sit in but the colts game has been the only game this year where I've seen a ton of jerseys of the opposite team. I was expecting everyone to bust out the VY jerseys.. but hell no section 136 was chanting VY sucks during commercial breaks hehe.
If he wants to keep butts in the seats...he SHOULD STOP throwing 4th quarter interceptions that result in TOUCHDOWNS! He wants revenge on us? Hey Matt...WIN your remaining games baby!
I don't know what section you sit in but the colts game has been the only game this year where I've seen a ton of jerseys of the opposite team. I was expecting everyone to bust out the VY jerseys.. but hell no section 136 was chanting VY sucks during commercial breaks hehe.
I think maybe since it was a MNF game, the Texans fans didn't want any titans fans there at all which was a great, and effective idea...once we lost, (again) most fans were fed up and sold or gave away tickets where the colts fans scooped em up...but yeah, a lot of colt fans were there. I was embarrassed and mad at the same time with colt fan yucking it up...next home game though is Battle Bag Day so long as no one snatches my paper bag I should be better while incognito.
Well this will get me hated, but I agree with Schaub. I have sat through 78 games now with the Texans and only left early once when my wife was nauseated/sick. I am a transplant to Houston - 16 years - and have heard or seen thousands of statements/posts about "bandwagon" Cowboys fans (my former team since the inception of the Texans). Well they are a friggin' lot more loyal than Houston fans. Boos at games, making up crap about players on MB's after losses, leaving the game before it is over. My buddy I took to this last game commented to me midway through the 4th, "look at all the Texans jerseys leaving."
I don't boo my team during the game. I don't leave early. I will come on here and analyze but I am not going to make crap up to criticize. I don't mind anyone analyzing plays/decisions and criticizing what is clearly a flawed team. I have a very low respect for the Houston fan base at this point.
Stay for the whole game. That simple. Although screw it, when y'all leave early it makes it easier for those of us that stay to get out AFTER the game.
I understand that we pay money and want to feel like we are getting a return for that expenditure, but spending money doesn't in turn entitle you to act like an asshole about it.
Acting like an asshole is calling your fans out on the radio. And for those who haven't bothered to listen to the link, skip forward to the call at about 16 minutes.
This is absurd.
I can't believe people are complaining about spending their "hard earned money" as if it entitles them to wins. It doesn't. You're a fan of the Texans, you should know what to expect.
Spending money on your team does NOT mean you deserve wins. In my opinion, it means you deserve to see good football. It means you deserve entertainment.
Yeah, Schaub's clarification of his initial statement is what pisses me off. The "you're not a true fan" BS is lame. You know what? I'm pulling out my own entitlement card. After what I've done to stand by this team over the years, I'm entitled to "true fan" status. And Schaub and anyone else that has a different opinion can kiss my ass. That whole routine of calling out someone's "fanhood" is BS.
This I agree with.
The "true fan" stuff is by far the most annoying insult in sports.
Hey Matt, I was there until 0:00.
Where were you before that?
I dunno.... I've only left one game early. It involved an 18 inning Astros playoff game. Other than that, I've remained in the stadium until the teams leave the field. I don't begrudge those that do leave early, but by the same token don't be surprised if you get called out for it.
Just sayin'.
Quitter. I was in that stadium for like 6.5 hours straight that day -- guess I'm the only real fan here.
We had a big screen out in Platinum Lot to watch the end of the Astros. But you're right, I suck as a fan.
I dunno.... I've only left one game early. It involved an 18 inning Astros playoff game. Other than that, I've remained in the stadium until the teams leave the field. I don't begrudge those that do leave early, but by the same token don't be surprised if you get called out for it.
Just sayin'.
Spending money on your team does NOT mean you deserve wins. In my opinion, it means you deserve to see good football. It means you deserve entertainment.
I dunno.... I've only left one game early. It involved an 18 inning Astros playoff game. Other than that, I've remained in the stadium until the teams leave the field. I don't begrudge those that do leave early, but by the same token don't be surprised if you get called out for it.
Just sayin'.
I hear ya, Bill. I just don't think the QB who threw the game ending pick6 should be the one doing the calling out. he needs to worry more about not sucking so bad late in games if you ask me.
He needs to worry about on-field stuff. But by the same token, I'm with Cak on this. People are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaay out of context and overblowing it.
It's simply the mob mentality at work right now. This time next week, if the Texans win, Schaub throws for 300+, multiple TD's and no turn overs, this will be quickly forgotten.
This is a legit discussion, but our QB should not be in the middle of it.
Poor decision making by Schaub to stick his nose into this discussion.
This situation has been a sticking point for years, and is a common critique of Houston fans in general, so Schaub should stay out of it!
Hell. I believe in staying until the game ends, but at the same time I think Schuab and the rest of the team need to realize that some will get up and walk out if they keep giving away games they are capable of winning.
True. He needs to worry about on-field stuff. But by the same token, I'm with Cak on this. People are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaay out of context and overblowing it.
It's simply the mob mentality at work right now. This time next week, if the Texans win, Schaub throws for 300+, multiple TD's and no turn overs, this will be quickly forgotten.
Everyone needs to chill the heck out. For those of y'all who actually heard what he said, it's not that bad.
If you listen to just the clip where he talks about fair weather fans, the guy who called in basically attacks Matt Schaub pure and simple. "What makes you think we want to sit through that?" "What the hell do you guys do at halftime?"
It's really not that bad, and it's not even that far from the truth. All he says is "If you don't stick through your team through the good times and bad, you're not a real fan." What about that statement exactly is incorrect?
I think his comments are being blown WAAAAAAY out of proportion here.
Moreover, I can understand the frustration with losing the game. But who says the players gave up? They were still trying to win until the end. We scored a TD that wasn't necessarily meaningless near the end of the game.
People are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaay out of context and overblowing it.
Marc Vandermeer: Yeah Steve, you're on.
John Lopez: Go for it.
Caller Steve: OK, I got a question here. First of all, what makes you think we're gonna wanna sit through a bad game 'till the end? I mean, starts off fine, it's like a movie that you paid for - you're not gonna sit through the end of it if the ending's terrible. <second part of question about halftime adjustments omitted>
Matt Schaub: For the first part of your question, you know uhhh, if you're a fan of the game and a fan of the team, you should stand behind 'em, you know, good, bad, or indifferent. And if you, uhhh, you know, you don't want to be a fair weather fan. If you just want to be there when it's good, then you're not a true fan.
Browns fan mostly stick around in the 4th
Seahawk fans stick around
bills fans stick around
KC fans stick around
I agree with matt
we just have alot of casual fans thats all
What, did he prove me wrong for leaving early or something? I caught the final score at home....looked like the Colts won but who am I to compare things like numbers on a scoreboard?
My fault for leaving early Matt. Also, my fault for missing those 2 kicks. My fault for turning Stevie Wonder into Stevie Fumbler. My fault for throwing a ball into double coverage when SS was in the flat screaming for the ball. My fault for the defense sucking worse than anything has ever sucked on a professional football field for the first 3 games. My fault for having a crying ass corner back who literally can't make a play that falls into his lap. My fault for the Texans OL turning back into the....Texans OL. My fault for signing Chris Brown. My fault for promoting a guy who wasn't ready to OC and then sticking with him even though he's clearly been a detriment. My fault....
Especially when it comes from the loser QB.
Very good post. See it all began a long time ago with the team known as the University of A&M. Some ***** created the 12th man and since then fans begin to believe they play a role in what the team does on the field. It is the "my ego is so big that I can not just sit and watch the game, I have to BE the game." I think some folks theory is "if I ain't drunk, cussing and loud, then i can't be enjoying the game.This is not directed at you, but I want to expand on what you've posted.
If my team is getting severely beaten, why do I have to stay?
Why do I have to subject myself to every last drop of misery that's being hurled upon my team and upon me?
Players and coaches are required to stay until the final whistle. I am not. Let's be clear: THEY are the ones who are getting their butts kicked. THEY are the ones on the field who can change things, or at least do better than just brain-farting the game away because they don't know how to "get over the top" as Kubiak likes to call it.
Are we kidding ourselves into thinking that one of those players is going to look up into the stands, see that I am still there, and somehow draw the necessary inspiration to pull off a win for ME? LOL. If so, then give ME a portion of their salary. We all need a cut of their paycheck since it's so important for us to hold their hand through the tough times.
Therefore, it makes not one shred of sense to say that a true fan stays until the end no matter what. Maybe it's a personality thing. My own belief system is that my team is going to play the way it plays no matter if there is ONE fan in the stands or the entire stadium is full of so-called diehard fans.
My team doesn't become less of "my team" if I am at home and I choose to turn off the TV because "my team" once again does the predictable. My choice to refrain from becoming even MORE angry by staying and watching is the wise choice for ME. I'm taking an active role in deciding that enough is enough for the day.
A smart NFL quarterback, after playing the way he played vs. the Colts this past Sunday, would have said the following: "I am a player, and so it's hard for me to say what's right and what's not in terms of how a fan stays or leaves a game. I can't control that. I have to play my best and focus on that. I can understand how the fans feel. We're unhappy, too, and we're trying very hard to fix things."
A little empathy by a multi-millionaire NFL QB, toward the fans who PAY to see him play a GAME, would have been nice. Matt needs to focus on changing what HE can change, as well as changing those around him.
Andre Johnson, as far as I am concerned, is a GREAT wide receiver who has GREAT stats. But he, too, has hurt this team with drops and going zombie when things aren't going our way.
I don't feel sorry for this team. I don't feel that I am a bad fan. I don't think ANY of you are bad fans, either. And frankly, some of you need to stop copping to that plea.
Browns fan mostly stick around in the 4th
Seahawk fans stick around
bills fans stick around
KC fans stick around
I agree with matt
we just have alot of casual fans thats all
After reading all 7 pages of this (thus far), there are a couple of trends I see developing and felt compelled to address.
1. Schaub did noting wrong - I respectfully disagree. IMHO, after listening to the whole thing, I felt Schaub may mean well, but he SHOULD have bit his lip on EVER calling out ANY fan. Whether you agree with his sentiments or not, it's an area into which he should NOT venture. I felt he was out-of-line, especially given the amount of support this mediocre team has received. The Texans don't have a lousy home record this season due to lack of fan support.
2. "Real Fans" - I hear this phrase every year and it's getting tiresome. While I stay to the bitter end, I'm a die-hard and that's just me. The paying customer has the right to boo, yell, and leave at their discretion. All this garbage about "you never hear this in Pittsburgh, K.C., etc." is just that... GARBAGE. If you've never heard a fanbase boo ANY of the 32 teams, I suggest you are listening with jaded ears. (The same goes for blowout wins OR losses - it happes at ALL stadiums)
This team has never finished over .500, and can't seem to play two halves this season. Our QB looks like the "golden arm" when he's protected and has a well-defined pocket, but under duress (like many other QB's), he deterioates rapidly and predictably. Of his multiple turnovers last game, I only blame him for the "Pick 6" one, as that is HIS coverage to read.
Of his multiple turnovers last game, I only blame him for the "Pick 6" one, as that is HIS coverage to read.
KC's stadium was probably 30% empty for teh Steelers game and half the fans that were at the game were Steelers fans.
Bill's fans have had some issues and they will leave early too.
All fans will leave early when they know the outcome. Don't act like Houston fans aren't good fans because we are. We show up a bit late but I blame that on tailgating, traffic, and church more than anything else.
If you were at the Titans game on MNF, you wouldn't say we don't have good fans. They were there through thick and thin and stayed till the end. Their reward? A shanked field goal, another loss in a big game, and almost 2 hours to get out of the parking lot.
You don't think his first pick, thrown 15 yards away from the nearest Texan, was his fault?
The pick 6 was a bad read, but that one was pure "WTF".
After reading all 7 pages of this (thus far)