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Rumor: VY scores a 6

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Hulk75 said:
Dan Marino did not run a High School type Offense in college. He proved he could read a Defense he did not just have one read then run.
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In other words, Marino's low test score didn't mean anything when it came to his ability to read defenses - but of course, Vince's low test score means everything when it comes to him being unable to read defenses. :rolleyes:

I'm not defending Vince, he's a fool for letting this happen, but there's plenty of QBs in and out of the league with good scores on the W-test who haven't amounted to diddly.
 
all I know is we may not take him he may fall a bit but I know the cowboys would probably try and get him regardless(godforbid).. well it just got easier on the texans pr wise to pass on vince
 
CoastalTexan said:
This is the funniest thing I've seen in a while. All the UT homers lover boy turned out to be well, dumb. If the whole NFL thing doesn't go for him he can't join the Army, you gotta take a test and its most likely harder than the Wunderlic. He can always pull a Cartman on South Park and go to the Special Olympics, he might not have to act as hard to be handicapped as Cartman did though.:stirpot:
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I have been pro Bush anti Young all along as it pertains to the draft.

I also have enjoyed flaming the T-Sippers/Young proponents here.

But you should consider this:

The NFL will make Young a wealthy young man if he never takes a snap in a regular season game. Probably get more $ in a signing bonus than many of us will make in our entire lives.

I am sure, or at least I hope so, that your reference to the special olympics and the handicapped...well... were meant in jest. However: Some things should be off limits when it comes to humor.

Another thing comes to mind here:

Vince Young should serve as a reminder of the shortcomings of our public school systems and the U of T athletic department (win first, educate second). Not all of their students and student/athletes will fare as well as Young....:soapbox:


Just my...:twocents:

:coffee:
 
I might have missed somebody talking about this, but what do we do if VY is still available to us LATER in the first, or second round? Don't we have another low first round pick? I'd hate to pass on him that low. I gotta be honest here--I don't think you have to be very smart at all to be a football player and I think that's what it really comes down to. I've heard the arguments that you do have to be, but I'm just not even slightly convinced of it.

donte wurree Vins weel steel take u itull just b inn thee secund rownd :ok:

Huse tha Hise Man knoww? :redtowel: (I know--I'm so classy.) :pigfly:
 
Now ProFootballtalk is saying the NFL thinks there may have been some administrative error with Young's test. Like, he answered the questions the wrong way or something... I have no idea. But either they or the NFL seem to be doing some backtracking with this whole Wonderlic thing.

I have no idea what the problem could have been, maybe he got off track filling out the bubbles (that's happened to me before).
 
Vinny said:
Dan Marino's stock dropped with his 13 test score. I'm sure the Chiefs were happy with the much 'smarter' Todd Blackledge when they picked him over that dope Marino.
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Wasn't Blackledge drafted higher because of his bowl performances and leading his team to a national title?
 
FirstTexansFan said:
Yet, somehow, his defenders try to rationalize this? Way to go Einstien's! :)
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Einstien's what? You mean Einstein's Bagels???

Oh, you must be calling VY homers "Einsteins."

Must be an Aggie.

......lol.....
 
Dr. Toro said:
Now ProFootballtalk is saying the NFL thinks there may have been some administrative error with Young's test. Like, he answered the questions the wrong way or something... I have no idea. But either they or the NFL seem to be doing some backtracking with this whole Wonderlic thing.
I have no idea what the problem could have been, maybe he got off track filling out the bubbles (that's happened to me before).
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You mean something like the Chads snafu in Florida with the Bush-Gore election ?
 
BREAZE said:
I bet he is the 1st to score a 6 after single handedly winning a championship...the guy breaks records from all angles.
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You are saying, that Vince Dumb will be the first QB coming out of college this year to throw the first TD in the NFL?

If you are, I will take that bet any day of the week. My bet is he will not even start a game for an NFL team next season period... If he even starts in his 2nd year....
 
Dr. Toro said:
Now ProFootballtalk is saying the NFL thinks there may have been some administrative error with Young's test. Like, he answered the questions the wrong way or something... I have no idea. But either they or the NFL seem to be doing some backtracking with this whole Wonderlic thing.

I have no idea what the problem could have been, maybe he got off track filling out the bubbles (that's happened to me before).
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Wouldn't that say something in itself? He can't fill out the answers to a simple test correctly?
 
Does anyone else know anything about the supposed administrative error? As dumbed down as some of the things VY says, I find it hard that any graduate of a major university scores below literate.
 
But remember also he is NOT a UT graduate. He left school early. My best guess after listening to him speak is he was given the Old atta boy education and majored in football, not english.
 
FirstTexansFan said:
What, you can't defend him, so you're gonna blame this on a vast Aggie conspiracy again? ROFL
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no more like aggie insecurity.


that was just a rumor and yall took it and ran with it. even making photoshop pictures. its really sad how much you envy the university of texas.


whats his score now? a 16? don't yall look stupid now.
 
To expand on my previous post, I e-mailed John McClain, and he said that Vince had taken the test again today, he scored a 16, and he'll be taking the test again several more times before the draft. Like he told Harrisment, it will all be covered in his column on Monday.
 
run-david-run said:
Does anyone else know anything about the supposed administrative error? As dumbed down as some of the things VY says, I find it hard that any graduate of a major university scores below literate.
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Yeah, I kinda figured it was some sorta error.

The smartest guy I know always despised intelligence testing. In high school, they made us take a test to see what our IQs were. My friend was kinda of a goody goody, but as a minor protest, he decided to get every question on the test wrong.

Basically, even if you can't read, and are just filling things in randomly, you will get some right.

Well, he got every single question on the test wrong. And boy howdy, his mom (a teacher at our school) was really steamed. An impressive feat.

I am guessing you would score higher than 6 if you were filling out the form randomly.

That being said, I want it to be on record that I was the first person on the MB to question VY's choice of management. I thought it was a mistake when it was first announced, and it may end up being an illustration of how you can sometimes lose money by trying to save money.
 
He wont have a 2nd or 3rd try in the Super Bowl with 4th and goal, 10 seconds left, down by 6. Ok thats a little melodramatic but hey my school TxState, lost in the semifinals in similar fashion.
 
CoastalTexan said:
He wont have a 2nd or 3rd try in the Super Bowl with 4th and goal, 10 seconds left, down by 6. Ok thats a little melodramatic but hey my school TxState, lost in the semifinals in similar fashion.
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Watching both Rose Bowls and the Ohio State game, do you really think that's a problem? lol
 
I know he scored a six, YOU know he scored a six, but his lawyers said lawsuit for releasing that information, magical clerical error, now he has a sixteen. Talk about a conspiracy, the coverup is ON! LOL
 
Yeah... 16 isn't bad. Nobody thought he was a rocket scientist or even a cerebral QB for that matter. He's an instinctive football player and a fantastic athlete. Yeah, it's great to have a guy with a 40... but the academic journal i posted found no correlation between the Wonderlic and draft placement, compensation, college or NFL passing performance.

Now, if he played football like a moron, that would be another matter, but he's been pretty friggin' good on the gridiron. It's not like he's out there pulling Aaron Brooks backward throws or exhibiting horrible clock management. He will face the challenges of any NFL quarterback (and maybe more, learning that athleticism won't always get you out of trouble at the next level). So until he starts playing like a fool, I won't consider him a fool.

Whereas before I stuck up for his management, I will now say that some of the gaffes and ill-preparation exhibited in recent weeks are probably indicative of awful management. Unless VY was prepared and just made some stupid mistake like misfilling the bubbles, he needs to get a real agent. He gave his people their shot, and if they are at all responsible for this, he needs to move on.
 
He doesn't have to know how many people he would take with him on a train if it was traveling 10 mph and it was going into a East wind. He just has to know how to play football. I'm sure he will have no problem with the playbook and all. I am assuming this is all bunk anyways because there isn't a person out there that has him out of the Top 10.
 
ESPN radio reported that an NFL official told them that the 6 score never happened. His score was a 16.

Good ole pro football talk. A step below tabloid journalism.
 
rmartin65 said:
16 is a 32%. Thats not so hot.
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Not hot, but expected. And it means nothing, IMO, if you notice the randomness of scores from great and not-so-great QBs of the past.

My high-40s score isn't going to shoot me up the draft board, lol.
 
16 is Marino, McNabb, McNair territory. It's also Tee Martin, Jeff George, Vinny Testaverde territory.

Chris Simms got a 22 with all that pedigree and Gruden thought he was like the savviest QB ever.

These scores don't mean a whole lot. Performance and winning are the most important measurables.
 
Young's test result a wonder to scouts

Texas quarterback Vince Young isn't working out at the NFL Combine, but if the buzz here yesterday is true, he may have hurt his draft status significantly without throwing a football.

With pro prospects running and jumping inside the RCA Dome, word outside began to spread that Young scored a six on the Wonderlic test given to prospects.

The 12-minute, 50-multiple choice question test is just one factor teams look at when gauging a player's intelligence. The average score for an NFL prospect is roughly 19.

The NFL doesn't make Wonderlic scores public.

Most draft experts viewed Young as a Top 3 pick. A low Wonderlic score, however, could result in him sliding in the draft if teams believe he is not capable of grasping the myriad of responsibilities of an NFL quarterback.

Players are allowed to take the test multiple times, so Young could take the test again. Word is USC quarterback Matt Leinart scored a 35 on the test, while the results for Vanderbilt QB Jay Cutler were unknown. Cutler scored in the upper-20s on the test before the NFL Combine.
 
aj. said:
Quick ... everyone with the Vince is a dumm *** signatures go back and edit them ...hurry!
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Do you ever find that the MB is kind of like being at the beach?--watching the tide come in and go.

This really changes nothing no matter what the score. VY can play football but is going to need an O tailored to him rather than an idea that he is going to come in and learn a system. No shocker there in any regard. Bush will have to have an O tailored to best suit him as well. Frankly, AJ should have had an O tailored more to him the last few years, but folks who couldn't figure that out are gone now. Big time talent requires adaptation.
 
infantrycak said:
Do you ever find that the MB is kind of like being at the beach?--watching the tide come in and go.

This really changes nothing no matter what the score. VY can play football but is going to need an O tailored to him rather than an idea that he is going to come in and learn a system. No shocker there in any regard. Bush will have to have an O tailored to best suit him as well. Frankly, AJ should have had an O tailored more to him the last few years, but folks who couldn't figure that out are gone now. Big time talent requires adaptation.
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Couldn't agree more. What if Marshall Faulk had never gone to St. Louis? Would we be saying, "You don't draft Bush because he's a type of guy you have to do novel stuff with. He might have been able to line up as a WR in college but it won't work in the NFL." These are unique talents, and to some extent unprecedented talents, that shouldn't be cited as a negative.
 
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Sunday, February 26:

3:45 p.m.

Charlie Casserly, Houston Texans GM, at the podium behind myself and Matt right now. One of the first questions? Did Vince Young really score a six on the Wonerlic?

According to Casserly, who referred to a 'reliable source,' it's a definite no. Young did not score a six on the Wonderlic.

So that's the latest.
 
Now this from www.kffl.com

NCAA | V. Young scores low on Wonderlic test
Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:11:01 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports there was word around the NFL Combine that Texas QB Vince Young scored a six on his Wonderlic test and scored another six on his second attempt at the test.


I don't think anyone has any idea on what is going on there...
 
texan279 said:
Now this from www.kffl.com

NCAA | V. Young scores low on Wonderlic test
Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:11:01 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports there was word around the NFL Combine that Texas QB Vince Young scored a six on his Wonderlic test and scored another six on his second attempt at the test.


I don't think anyone has any idea on what is going on there...
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This would be a good reason to make combine results more public.
 
infantrycak said:
Do you ever find that the MB is kind of like being at the beach?--watching the tide come in and go.
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Yeah but there's a certain beauty around the ebb and flow of the tide.

The imagery that comes to me involves flying insects around a bug zapper, lemmings, cliffs, a Three Stooges marathon, South Park, and the marching band in the final scene of Animal House.
 
Simply amazing. If the latest word from PFT is true (Miami Herald did say several teams confirmed the original 6), this is the most ridiculous thing ever. Seriously, I would check and re-check until I was absolutely positive the guy got a 6 before I leaked anything.
 
Texans | Casserly comments about Young's Wonderlic test
Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:14:44 -0800

Houston Texans general manager Charley Casserly said at the NFL Combine Sunday, Feb. 26, he had heard about Texas QB Vince Young's score on the Wonderlic test. He also said he heard from a good source that the test results were inaccurate. "Yes, I have been told it was inaccurate, by a source good enough for me to stand up here and quote it. Otherwise I wouldn't get up here and just say it," said Casserly. He was asked how the test would impact the Texans opinion of Young and he replied, "Well, I can only speak for the Houston Texans. I can't speak for 31 other teams. I just said how we evaluate it. It doesn't make any difference what the test score is to us. We're going to go through the same evaluation. I could point to players that have high test scores but couldn't necessarily learn football. So you go through that process, and then we'll evaluate that player's ability to learn our system at the end of it."
 
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