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Nick Caserio - New GM

steelbtexan

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I wouldn't pick O-line in the first unless you had a Green type OC or RG available. A good O-lineman will play 10+ years and the Texans have 2 maybe 3 of 5 now. You can get quality O-line in later rounds.
Rnd 1- best pass rusher
Rnd 1- best WR
Rnd 2- best LB
Rnd 3- best RB
While I agree with these needs, it's been so long since the Texans have had a quality C or TE, I'm on board with finally fixing those 2 positions because this year those positions are particularly deep. I think one of the Georgia TE's Washington/Gilbert or Iowa's LaPorta will be there at the top of the 2nd. I really like Washington alot. Huge target good hands and speed, but it was his blocking that got him on the field.

What I really would like to see happen is something like this.

1. Anderson
1. Addison
2. Washington
2. after using a 3rd/4th/6th to trade up for Stromberg
3. Best LB available to pair with Harris and I'm OK with KGH for another yr.
 
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JB

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While I agree with these needs, it's been so long since the Texans have had a quality C or TE, I'm on board with finally fixing those 2 positions because this year those positions are particularly deep. I think one of the Georgia TE's Washington/Gilbert or Iowa's LaPorta will be there at the top of the 2nd. I really like Washington alot. Huge target good hands and speed, but it was his blocking that got him on the field.
If those positions are particularly deep, should be no problem getting quality in the 2nd or 3rd and I'm good with that. A top of the line MLB to replace Kirksey is a must have though, whichever round it takes
 

steelbtexan

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If those positions are particularly deep, should be no problem getting quality in the 2nd or 3rd and I'm good with that. A top of the line MLB to replace Kirksey is a must have though, whichever round it takes
Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if Sewell was a 1st rd pick. I trust Lovie on who/when Lovie wants to pick as the LB to lead his defense. I certainly would be good with a trade down in this draft, which isn't how I normally feel about drafts. I'm a quality over quantity guy. But the groupings are close, so getting more picks is the way that I would go.

I dont know what the FA WR class looks like, but if a solid vet WR is available (Allen Robinson type) I would slightly over pay for a guy like this. I'm thinking about a Claypool or Tyler Boyd type vet.
 
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Thorn

Dirty Old Man
Caserio looks like a reject from a zombie movie and speaks like a politician.

He seems to draft at least half way decently though. If the Texans improve this year and Cleveland doesn't fall apart, we might not be drafting in the top ten next year.
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
Caserio looks like a reject from a zombie movie and speaks like a politician.

He seems to draft at least half way decently though. If the Texans improve this year and Cleveland doesn't fall apart, we might not be drafting in the top ten next year.
You can always package those two picks to move up into the top 10.
 

Lucky

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For this yr you're probably correct. Although I'm hoping Johnson can play the slot some. He also played outside some.

In next yrs draft I hope they follow the talent, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if Caserio drafted these positions, provided the talent was equal.

Rd.1 Best Pass Rusher available
Rd.1 Best TE available
Rd. 2 Best NT available
Rd.3 Best LB available
Rd.3 Best RB Available

Sign best FA WR available.
FA or draft, they need to find a Center. And I would advise to at least look at QBs they may be better than currently on the roster.
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if Sewell was a 1st rd pick. I trust Lovie on who/when Lovie wants to pick as the LB to lead his defense. I certainly would be good with a trade down in this draft, which isn't how I normally feel about drafts. I'm a quality over quantity guy. But the groupings are close, so getting more picks is the way that I would go.

I dont know what the FA WR class looks like, but if a solid vet WR is available (Allen Robinson type) I would slightly over pay for a guy like this. I'm thinking about a Claypool or Tyler Boyd type vet.
Why isn't qb in that equation?
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
Because there isn't a QB that I like in this draft. A midget and an Ohio State QB with a piece of trash for an agent and a QB coach.

Like it or not Mills is the QB of the future.
You act like there are only 2 in this draft. Not only that, its very,very early in the process. I'm not for or against Mills, just need to see a difference maker.
 

leebigeztx

Keep it Movin!
I act like I'm currently ok with how the rebuild is going and I Mills to be the QB unless there's an Elway/Manning type QB available.
So unless there is a generational talent, you're not drafting a qb? Imagine if Buffalo,Chargers,GB,Pittsburgh,and KC had said that. Ben,Rodgers,Herbert,Mahomes wouldn't have been drafted.
 

JB

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So unless there is a generational talent, you're not drafting a qb? Imagine if Buffalo,Chargers,GB,Pittsburgh,and KC had said that. Ben,Rodgers,Herbert,Mahomes wouldn't have been drafted.
It's a good thing that none here speak for the Texans
 

Rich Schmidt

Myopicone
So unless there is a generational talent, you're not drafting a qb? Imagine if Buffalo,Chargers,GB,Pittsburgh,and KC had said that. Ben,Rodgers,Herbert,Mahomes wouldn't have been drafted.
Let's all be honest, it is a crapshoot. How about this list of top 5-10ish picks, Leaf, Jamarcus Russell, Marinovich, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, JOey Harrington, David Carr, Jeff George, Leinart... Thus, I get both sides when you are in QB hell, enough hope they will be ok, versus taking a flyer on these guys that fail more than they work. So, you have to decide what you have is not better than trying again. Most of these guys take a couple years, so even when you draft, you have at least a year of development too. By mid year, we will know which direction Mills and thus the team will be moving.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
Let's all be honest, it is a crapshoot. How about this list of top 5-10ish picks, Leaf, Jamarcus Russell, Marinovich, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, JOey Harrington, David Carr, Jeff George, Leinart... Thus, I get both sides when you are in QB hell, enough hope they will be ok, versus taking a flyer on these guys that fail more than they work. So, you have to decide what you have is not better than trying again. Most of these guys take a couple years, so even when you draft, you have at least a year of development too. By mid year, we will know which direction Mills and thus the team will be moving.
Trying to be reasonable huh? You know that crap isn't acceptable around here. :evilb:
 

Toro Bravo

Rookie
Let's all be honest, it is a crapshoot. How about this list of top 5-10ish picks, Leaf, Jamarcus Russell, Marinovich, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, JOey Harrington, David Carr, Jeff George, Leinart... Thus, I get both sides when you are in QB hell, enough hope they will be ok, versus taking a flyer on these guys that fail more than they work. So, you have to decide what you have is not better than trying again. Most of these guys take a couple years, so even when you draft, you have at least a year of development too. By mid year, we will know which direction Mills and thus the team will be moving.
That is exactly why I prefer that we acquire a veteran either through trade or free agency, while also drafting a QB prospect. There were several QB's available this year that are all better than Mills;
Russell Wilson.
Jimmy G.
Mariotta.
Ryan.
Mayfield.
None of them are considered franchise QB's anymore but they are all better than what we have now. Even Geno Smith looks OK. I prefer a known entity over a crap shoot any day.
 

OptimisticTexan

2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
That is exactly why I prefer that we acquire a veteran either through trade or free agency, while also drafting a QB prospect. There were several QB's available this year that are all better than Mills;
Russell Wilson.
Jimmy G.
Mariotta.
Ryan.
Mayfield.
None of them are considered franchise QB's anymore but they are all better than what we have now. Even Geno Smith looks OK. I prefer a known entity over a crap shoot any day.
...with their respective teams. Haven't seen any of them suit up and play behind this pitiful OL.
 

Porky

Hall of Fame
I'm more concerned with the running game to be honest. Nick had one job this offseason. Fix the *&#@$@!# running game, and he failed. Rex Burkhead? Are you kidding me. This offseason was an epic fail because he didn't do the one thing that was absolutely essential.

Next year, we need to go heavy offense. Draft your QB if he's there - TBD. If he's not, sign or trade for a so-so veteran and grab your QB in 24 and go with a dynamic D player there. I'm ok with a Geno Smith type for a year if necessary. I've seen enough of Mills, he can be released for all I care. With the other first rounder, I'm looking for a dynamic weapon in the passing game. Someone that can be the #1 with time. Then I am looking at RB or Oline (Center?) with the 2nd round and 3rd round would be vice versa.

After that, depth pieces on the defense/ST types.
 

thunderkyss

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That is exactly why I prefer that we acquire a veteran either through trade or free agency, while also drafting a QB prospect. There were several QB's available this year that are all better than Mills;
Russell Wilson.
Jimmy G.
Mariotta.
Ryan.
Mayfield.
None of them are considered franchise QB's anymore but they are all better than what we have now. Even Geno Smith looks OK. I prefer a known entity over a crap shoot any day.
Russell Wilson was acquired through trade. So was Ryan & Mayfield. We didn't have the capital to trade for Russ until after we traded Watson.

One of the reasons we are in the mess we are in is that we've traded away our talent for pretty poor returns. We traded away our draft picks for players, Watson, Tunsil, that have not paid off.

Jimmy G has not been traded because they're asking more than what others wanted to give & it seems to be working out for them now that their starter is hurt.

Ryan hasn't looked good for a little while in Atlanta. He didn't look good yesterday in the win against the Chiefs. They won that game because they were able to stop the run, frustrate the QB (Mahomes), & run the ball.

None of the things we've been able to do in Houston, though our HC says those are the things we want to do.

It would have been great to get Russell Wilson. But he had a NTC in his contract & being that our QB was fighting to get out of here, I doubt Russ would have waived the NTC to come here.

The other guys you have mentioned have pretty much already peaked.

I did not want to draft a QB in 2021. But I will admit he (Mills) has more upside than Geno Smith. I understand many here are starting to doubt that upside, but it's only been three games. I think it's premature. Time will tell.
 

steelbtexan

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Russell Wilson was acquired through trade. So was Ryan & Mayfield. We didn't have the capital to trade for Russ until after we traded Watson.

One of the reasons we are in the mess we are in is that we've traded away our talent for pretty poor returns. We traded away our draft picks for players, Watson, Tunsil, that have not paid off.

Jimmy G has not been traded because they're asking more than what others wanted to give & it seems to be working out for them now that their starter is hurt.

Ryan hasn't looked good for a little while in Atlanta. He didn't look good yesterday in the win against the Chiefs. They won that game because they were able to stop the run, frustrate the QB (Mahomes), & run the ball.

None of the things we've been able to do in Houston, though our HC says those are the things we want to do.

It would have been great to get Russell Wilson. But he had a NTC in his contract & being that our QB was fighting to get out of here, I doubt Russ would have waived the NTC to come here.

The other guys you have mentioned have pretty much already peaked.

I did not want to draft a QB in 2021. But I will admit he (Mills) has more upside than Geno Smith. I understand many here are starting to doubt that upside, but it's only been three games. I think it's premature. Time will tell.
Agreed, but Wilson is looking washed.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
I would think that by any standards, Casino is doing at a minimum above average. If he continues to draft in this manner, you should see a nice improvement next year, and you should reasonably be able to talk about being in the wildcard race in 2024.

Of course Lovie will have to get his sh!t together for that to happen, but it's certainly possible. We could also reasonably be looking at a HC and QB in 2024 with another overhaul. LOL
 
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Speedy

Former Yeller Dweller
If he continues to draft in this manner,
Draft in what manner? His 1st draft doesn’t look all that great. Mills looks lost, Collins continues to be a non factor, Wallow? Bleh. Jordan? Bleh. And Lopez started 15 games last year which we all thought was great for a 6th rounder but did he start all of those games because he’s good or did he start all of those games because the talent is that bad? He doesn’t seem to be having much impact this year.

This year’s draft is still a work in progress. Stingley and Pitre have big potential. Haven’t really paid much attention to Green. I don’t hear his name much so I guess he’s doing alright. Pierce is a bulldozer but I don’t how long he can last being that violent a runner. And the rest haven’t seen the field yet.
 

zshawn10

All Pro
Running back
Breece Hall, Jets; Dameon Pierce, Texans
Honorable mention: Tyler Allgeier, Falcons

Pierce (Round 4, No. 107) stood out as a potential draft steal the second he slipped to Day 3. He’s matched that buzz, establishing himself as an early Offensive Rookie of the Year candidate with 313 yards rushing (135 more than Hall), two TDs and 10 receptions on 10 targets. On Sunday, he ripped off a 75-yard touchdown run against the Chargers as part of a 131-yard day.

Although Hall has been a more prominent receiving threat (15 catches for 113 yards and a TD on 27 targets), he hasn’t seen Pierce’s volume of carries. That might be changing, though — Hall had 17 rushes in a Week 4 win at Pittsburgh. All told, he’s averaging 5.5 yards per touch (rushing and receiving).

Offensive line
Tyler Linderbaum, Ravens; Kenyon Green, Texans; Zion Johnson, Chargers; Tyler Smith, Cowboys; Jamaree Salyer, Chargers
Honorable mentions: Ikem Ekwonu, Panthers; Spencer Burford, 49ers; Luke Goedeke, Buccaneers; Dylan Parham, Raiders; Charles Cross, Seahawks; Abe Lucas, Seahawks; Cole Strange, Patriots

Linderbaum and Green were dealt tough hands with camp injuries, but they’ve rebounded. It’s all there for Green to be a stud — but as was the case in college, there are still technical issues to iron out. Once he does, look out.

Cornerback
Sauce Gardner, Jets; Derek Stingley Jr., Texans; Jaylen Watson, Chiefs
Honorable mentions: Jack Jones, Patriots; Tariq Woolen, Seahawks; Roger McCreary, Titans

Those top two choices of Gardner and Stingley — picks 4 and 3, respectively — haven’t forced a turnover yet, but quarterbacks already are approaching them with caution. Gardner has five pass breakups, and Stingley came out of the blocks with a combined 15 tackles and three PBUs over Weeks 1 and 2. They’ll each be a centerpiece of a rebuild.

Safety
Jaquan Brisker, Bears; Jalen Pitre, Texans
Honorable mention: Kyle Hamilton, Ravens

Pitre’s another player whose success is no real surprise, based on what we saw from him at Baylor. Similarly to Brisker, Pitre is a fearless safety who can line up in the box and not get destroyed. He’s going to stick his nose in, he understands run fits, and he can cover. It’s been an encouraging start for both guys.
 

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Which 2022 NFL Draft picks have excelled so far? Our early All-Rookie Team
The Athletic NFL Draft Staff
Oct 5, 2022
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It’s impossible for us to hand out complete NFL Draft grades the day players are picked, as full context — multiple seasons’ worth — is needed for an exercise like that. However, we can do our best to chart progress along the way.
Which brings us to our All-Rookie Team at (approximately) the quarter mark of the 17-game NFL season. Our NFL Draft staff voted, position by position, on the early standouts from the ’22 class. Who’s leading the way for the first-year players so far? Dane Brugler, Nick Baumgardner, Nate Tice and Chris Burke weigh in.
Quarterback
Bailey Zappe, Patriots
Honorable mention: Kenny Pickett, Steelers
Entering Week 4 of the NFL season, we were ready to place an “n/a” designation on this spot. But lo and behold, two rookie quarterbacks came off the bench this past weekend: Zappe and Pickett (who’s now the official starter in Pittsburgh).
Zappe averaged only 6.6 yards per attempt in his NFL debut, but he became the first (and still the only) rookie to throw a touchdown pass. He also led an offense that pushed the Packers to overtime at Lambeau Field. The fourth-round pick might not have the strongest arm, but he showed sound decision-making and played well Sunday, considering the circumstances.


Running back

Breece Hall, Jets; Dameon Pierce, Texans
Honorable mention: Tyler Allgeier, Falcons
Pierce (Round 4, No. 107) stood out as a potential draft steal the second he slipped to Day 3. He’s matched that buzz, establishing himself as an early Offensive Rookie of the Year candidate with 313 yards rushing (135 more than Hall), two TDs and 10 receptions on 10 targets. On Sunday, he ripped off a 75-yard touchdown run against the Chargers as part of a 131-yard day.
Although Hall has been a more prominent receiving threat (15 catches for 113 yards and a TD on 27 targets), he hasn’t seen Pierce’s volume of carries. That might be changing, though — Hall had 17 rushes in a Week 4 win at Pittsburgh. All told, he’s averaging 5.5 yards per touch (rushing and receiving).
Keep an eye on Allgeier, too. The Falcons rookie just rushed for 84 yards on 10 carries against Cleveland, and an injury to Cordarrelle Patterson has propped the door wide open for Allgeier to play a sizable role.

Wide receiver
Chris Olave, Saints; Jahan Dotson, Commanders; Drake London, Falcons
Honorable mentions: Garrett Wilson, Jets; Romeo Doubs, Packers; George Pickens, Steelers
As expected, wide receiver was, by far, the toughest position to narrow down for our initial All-Rookie Team. It was painful to leave Wilson (20 receptions, 255 yards, two TDs) off the list, and even Doubs (19 catches, 184 yards, two TDs) made a strong case to earn a top-three spot. But it’s hard to argue against the three who made it.
Through four weeks, Olave ranks top 10 in the entire NFL in receiving yards (335) and is one of only six receivers with at least six receptions of 20-plus yards. Dotson has just 12 catches this season, but he’s made them count with four touchdowns, which ties him with Stefon Diggs for the NFL lead. And
despite spotty quarterback play, London has been as-advertised thanks to his basketball skills on grass. He leads all rookie receivers in missed tackles forced (five) and has yet to register a drop.

Tight end
Jelani Woods, Colts; Isaiah Likely, Ravens (tie)
Honorable mention: Daniel Bellinger, Giants
This position is notorious for being difficult on rookies, and we’re seeing it again this season. No first-year tight end has 10 catches or 100 yards receiving yet. Bellinger leads in both of those categories (eight receptions for 79 yards), but Woods is the only rookie TE to have found the end zone twice. Those scoring grabs came in a Week 3 upset of the Chiefs, with his second touchdown that day handing the Colts a win in the final minute.Statistically, Likely hasn’t carried over his eye-popping preseason performance (12 catches for 144 yards and a TD over the final two games). He did have a four-catch, 43-yard day against the Dolphins in Week 2, though, so the Ravens still should be excited about his potential.

Offensive line
Tyler Linderbaum, Ravens; Kenyon Green, Texans; Zion Johnson, Chargers; Tyler Smith, Cowboys; Jamaree Salyer, Chargers
Honorable mentions: Ikem Ekwonu, Panthers; Spencer Burford, 49ers; Luke Goedeke, Buccaneers; Dylan Parham, Raiders; Charles Cross, Seahawks; Abe Lucas, Seahawks; Cole Strange, Patriots
Many questioned (and rightly so) the Cowboys’ decision to give Smith a shot at tackle coming out of camp, as the deficiencies we saw from Smith in college seemed like they’d be better masked inside at guard. Early on, however, the former Tulsa star has proved the skeptics among us wrong. He had a bit of a dip last week against Washington, but he’s had some outstanding stretches.
Linderbaum and Green were dealt tough hands with camp injuries, but they’ve rebounded. It’s all there for Green to be a stud — but as was the case in college, there are still technical issues to iron out. Once he does, look out.
The toughest call here was Johnson over Parham. The Chargers guard gets the nod, although it’s important to note that Parham has already played both center and guard for the Raiders and should only improve with time. And while Salyer earned a nod off the back of just one game, that game — a start — was as good as Rashawn Slater’s rookie debut for the same team last year (and perhaps better from a pass-pro standpoint). That was special from Salyer, so let’s see if he can follow it up.

Defensive line
Jordan Davis, Eagles; Logan Hall, Buccaneers
Honorable mentions: Micheal Clemons, Jets; DeMarvin Leal, Steelers
The first defensive tackle selected in 2022, Davis (Round 1, No. 13) has collected a number of flash plays to back up his high draft pick. He logged multiple pressures each of the past two games and also showed off his motor to make things happen away from the line of scrimmage. One of the issues with Davis as a prospect was the uncertainty over whether he could play the 35-plus snaps per game needed to justify his stock. That question remains unanswered — he’s playing 21 snaps per game for Philadelphia — so it will be interesting to see if that changes.
Hall, who landed at No. 33, was considered a potential top-40 prospect, in part, because of a wide-ranging skill set that allows him to play multiple positions (he grabbed votes at both DL and edge on our ballot). The Buccaneers have tapped into that versatility, lining him up across the defensive line and even standing him up in space.

Edge
Travon Walker, Jaguars; Aidan Hutchinson, Lions
Honorable mentions: George Karlaftis, Chiefs; Jermaine Johnson II, Jets
This is a tough conversation, because — as was the case when we evaluated this position before the draft — there’s good news and bad news all over the place.
While Hutchinson leads all rookie edges through four games with “true pass set pressures” (nine), per Pro Football Focus, and sacks (three), both he and Walker have had rather pedestrian win rates (PFF grades each at 8 percent). The top two picks in April’s draft have shown solid, improving work against the run, though, and each has offered glimpses of a much higher ceiling.
Karlaftis and Johnson shouldn’t be slept on here, at all. A case could’ve been made for either to make this list. Karlaftis continues to push the pocket for the Chiefs, but — as was the case at Purdue, on occasion — he’s not quite finishing (zero sacks).

Linebacker
Devin Lloyd, Jaguars; Malcolm Rodriguez, Lions
Honorable mention: Quay Walker, Packers
Lloyd has been, in a word, phenomenal. After (inexplicably) slipping to No. 27 in the draft, the Utah product has paired with Travon Walker to help the Jaguars reshape their defensive identity. Lloyd has 38 tackles and six pass
breakups, and he picked a pass in each of Jacksonville’s two wins thus far — that puts him halfway to his total of four INTs as a Ute last year. As it stands through four weeks, he’s probably the leading contender for Defensive Rookie of the Year.
Meanwhile, Rodriguez (33 tackles, three tackles for loss, two QB hits) has been a bright spot on a miserable Detroit defense. It was an absolute robbery that the Lions were able to snag Rodriguez in Round 6 (No. 188). He’s already playing 72 percent of defensive snaps and making a huge impact on special teams.

Cornerback
Sauce Gardner, Jets; Derek Stingley Jr., Texans; Jaylen Watson, Chiefs
Honorable mentions: Jack Jones, Patriots; Tariq Woolen, Seahawks; Roger McCreary, Titans
Gardner and Stingley were unanimous selections, but there wasn’t much separating Watson and Woolen for the final spot — especially after Woolen delivered a pick six in Detroit on Sunday (his second INT of the season). And Jones set himself up as a name to watch for our midseason All-Rookie Team
with a pick six of his own during a brilliant debut start at Green Bay.
Watson, pick No. 243 in April, might still be riding the momentum of his own 99-yard interception in Week 2, which helped him land AFC Defensive Player of the Week honors.
Those top two choices of Gardner and Stingley — picks 4 and 3, respectively — haven’t forced a turnover yet, but quarterbacks already are approaching them with caution. Gardner has five pass breakups, and Stingley came out of the blocks with a combined 15 tackles and three PBUs over Weeks 1 and 2. They’ll each be a centerpiece of a rebuild.
Michael Carter II said that Sauce Gardner baited Kenny Pickett into the throw he made on Carter's interception in the fourth quarter.
Intrigued to see the coverage numbers, but I thought Gardner was stellar on Sunday. He's a stud. #Jets
— Zack Rosenblatt (@ZackBlatt) October 2, 2022. In general, the rookie CB crop looks deep. Also on the ballot were names like McCreary (leading all rookie corners with 26 tackles), the Bears’ Kyler Gordon and the Bills’ Kaiir Elam. Expect to hear a lot from all three.
Safety
Jaquan Brisker, Bears; Jalen Pitre, Texans
Honorable mention: Kyle Hamilton, Ravens
Brisker looked like the Bears’ best pick on draft weekend, and that’s held up so far. That he fell to No. 48 still feels pretty wild, but it was a good-looking find for Chicago. Brisker is a big safety who can play downhill, but he’s also athletic enough to hold his own in coverage. The Bears have moved him all over the place early defensively — the former Penn State star has seen time at deep safety, in the box, off the edge and in the slot.
Pitre’s another player whose success is no real surprise, based on what we saw from him at Baylor. Similarly to Brisker, Pitre is a fearless safety who can line up in the box and not get destroyed. He’s going to stick his nose in, he understands run fits, and he can cover. It’s been an encouraging start for both guys.
 

Rich Schmidt

Myopicone
NO need to stir up crap, pretty normal stuff. He said Lovie and him talk about it, but LOVIE makes the call. He also was clear each rookie is different, they play when they are ready and deserve it. Otherwise, this is largely how he organizes his shop and steers / empowers his scouts and managers, has pockets that focus on this week, this year, next year type stuff. If you are a draftnik, probably worth carving out time to listen to see how this works. Gave DP props for being in on Monday squatting 435, not getting a big head, and giving credit to others. Later on DP's ball security improvement. Can tell he loves the kid and how he just works and plays
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
NO need to stir up crap, pretty normal stuff. He said Lovie and him talk about it, but LOVIE makes the call. He also was clear each rookie is different, they play when they are ready and deserve it. Otherwise, this is largely how he organizes his shop and steers / empowers his scouts and managers, has pockets that focus on this week, this year, next year type stuff. If you are a draftnik, probably worth carving out time to listen to see how this works. Gave DP props for being in on Monday squatting 435, not getting a big head, and giving credit to others. Later on DP's ball security improvement. Can tell he loves the kid and how he just works and plays
Who trying to stir up stuff. Why you think I posted the interview? I know what he said and it’s very clear that he’s involved period.
 

TexansBull

Hall of Fame
He said they talk about it.
Do you remember when Rick Smith and OB talked about whether to start Savage or Watson and Smith told OB to start Savage?


I think it’s normal for a GM and HC to have that collaborative relationship.
 

Rich Schmidt

Myopicone
Who trying to stir up stuff. Why you think I posted the interview? I know what he said and it’s very clear that he’s involved period.
What JB said, it seemed you implied he was more involved than average. My bad if I thought you were trying to oversell it, no big thing. Of all things that suck, I do feel Lovie and NC seem to work well together and have reasonable boundaries
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
Do you remember when Rick Smith and OB talked about whether to start Savage or Watson and Smith told OB to start Savage?


I think it’s normal for a GM and HC to have that collaborative relationship.
Yeah I remember it like it was yesterday. The only difference was they were actually having a power struggle.
 

beerlover

Hall of Fame
Caserio looks like a reject from a zombie movie and speaks like a politician.

He seems to draft at least half way decently though. If the Texans improve this year and Cleveland doesn't fall apart, we might not be drafting in the top ten next year.
Would take a complete idiot not to draft well with that strong 2022 draft class combined with multiple picks. Average at best results given the opportunity. But you are spot on with initial sentence :clown:
 

steelbtexan

King of the W. B. Club
Contributor's Club
Would take a complete idiot not to draft well with that strong 2022 draft class combined with multiple picks. Average at best results given the opportunity. But you are spot on with initial sentence :clown:
Now drafting has gotten easy? There must be quite a few complete idiots out there in your opinion?

Regardless I'm hoping Caserio can add at least 6 more star/solid starter level players. I'm hoping for Carter and Washington in the 1st and Edge Sanders in the 2nd. Followed by Achane/Stromberg and after a trade up into the 3rd for one of Mingo/Tillman/Rahsee Rice.

See how easy that was to add 6 difference makers. Man this stuff is easy. LOL Truth is they can add 6 or 7 guys that will upgrade the current roster. Which speaks more to the current talent on the roster than anything. What do you think of your guy Sewell? He's just been OK this yr in what little bit I've seen the Ducks. I think the other LB on the Ducks, (His name escapes me) has had a better yr. That dude is a fast LB.

But trust me, it's easy for us to play around with this stuff, but it ain't easy.
 

TexansBull

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He was not listening, that’s why Rick was ran smooth out of town and Bill gained all the power.
You missed the whole point. Even though there was a power struggle OB went to RS and asked him if he should start Watson or Savage. RS said to slowly work Watson in and have patience bringing him up.

OB did in fact listen to RS and started Savage over Watson.
 
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thunderkyss

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I remember the good old days when some on this MB were claiming there was no dysfunction in Texans management.
We only know what we know.

Didn't take me long, though, to figure out BO'b couldn't work with anybody. A little longer to realize he had no idea how to build & install an offense in the NFL.
 

steelbtexan

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We only know what we know.

Didn't take me long, though, to figure out BO'b couldn't work with anybody. A little longer to realize he had no idea how to build & install an offense in the NFL.
Yet, Derrick almost lead the NFL in passing the last yr he played. BOB the HC was avg and too conservative. The GM job he was totally out of his depth. As much as some of the crappy trades. (I still believe the McNair's told him to take what he could get for Hopkins) The contract extensions to Mercilus and Cunningham bothered me even more because the team still is recovering from that idiocity.
 

thunderkyss

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Yet, Derrick almost lead the NFL in passing the last yr he played
Just imagine if he had an offense around him to go with those talented WRs.

Doesn't take a good coach to put up gaudy passing yards with a QB drafted in the top 15 & two 1st round WRs.
 
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