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Nick Caserio - New GM

steelbtexan

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I wouldn't pick O-line in the first unless you had a Green type OC or RG available. A good O-lineman will play 10+ years and the Texans have 2 maybe 3 of 5 now. You can get quality O-line in later rounds.
Rnd 1- best pass rusher
Rnd 1- best WR
Rnd 2- best LB
Rnd 3- best RB
While I agree with these needs, it's been so long since the Texans have had a quality C or TE, I'm on board with finally fixing those 2 positions because this year those positions are particularly deep. I think one of the Georgia TE's Washington/Gilbert or Iowa's LaPorta will be there at the top of the 2nd. I really like Washington alot. Huge target good hands and speed, but it was his blocking that got him on the field.

What I really would like to see happen is something like this.

1. Anderson
1. Addison
2. Washington
2. after using a 3rd/4th/6th to trade up for Stromberg
3. Best LB available to pair with Harris and I'm OK with KGH for another yr.
 
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JB

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While I agree with these needs, it's been so long since the Texans have had a quality C or TE, I'm on board with finally fixing those 2 positions because this year those positions are particularly deep. I think one of the Georgia TE's Washington/Gilbert or Iowa's LaPorta will be there at the top of the 2nd. I really like Washington alot. Huge target good hands and speed, but it was his blocking that got him on the field.
If those positions are particularly deep, should be no problem getting quality in the 2nd or 3rd and I'm good with that. A top of the line MLB to replace Kirksey is a must have though, whichever round it takes
 

steelbtexan

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If those positions are particularly deep, should be no problem getting quality in the 2nd or 3rd and I'm good with that. A top of the line MLB to replace Kirksey is a must have though, whichever round it takes
Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if Sewell was a 1st rd pick. I trust Lovie on who/when Lovie wants to pick as the LB to lead his defense. I certainly would be good with a trade down in this draft, which isn't how I normally feel about drafts. I'm a quality over quantity guy. But the groupings are close, so getting more picks is the way that I would go.

I dont know what the FA WR class looks like, but if a solid vet WR is available (Allen Robinson type) I would slightly over pay for a guy like this. I'm thinking about a Claypool or Tyler Boyd type vet.
 
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Thorn

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Caserio looks like a reject from a zombie movie and speaks like a politician.

He seems to draft at least half way decently though. If the Texans improve this year and Cleveland doesn't fall apart, we might not be drafting in the top ten next year.
 

Texansballer74

The Marine
Caserio looks like a reject from a zombie movie and speaks like a politician.

He seems to draft at least half way decently though. If the Texans improve this year and Cleveland doesn't fall apart, we might not be drafting in the top ten next year.
You can always package those two picks to move up into the top 10.
 

Lucky

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For this yr you're probably correct. Although I'm hoping Johnson can play the slot some. He also played outside some.

In next yrs draft I hope they follow the talent, but it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if Caserio drafted these positions, provided the talent was equal.

Rd.1 Best Pass Rusher available
Rd.1 Best TE available
Rd. 2 Best NT available
Rd.3 Best LB available
Rd.3 Best RB Available

Sign best FA WR available.
FA or draft, they need to find a Center. And I would advise to at least look at QBs they may be better than currently on the roster.
 

leebigeztx

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Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if Sewell was a 1st rd pick. I trust Lovie on who/when Lovie wants to pick as the LB to lead his defense. I certainly would be good with a trade down in this draft, which isn't how I normally feel about drafts. I'm a quality over quantity guy. But the groupings are close, so getting more picks is the way that I would go.

I dont know what the FA WR class looks like, but if a solid vet WR is available (Allen Robinson type) I would slightly over pay for a guy like this. I'm thinking about a Claypool or Tyler Boyd type vet.
Why isn't qb in that equation?
 

leebigeztx

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Because there isn't a QB that I like in this draft. A midget and an Ohio State QB with a piece of trash for an agent and a QB coach.

Like it or not Mills is the QB of the future.
You act like there are only 2 in this draft. Not only that, its very,very early in the process. I'm not for or against Mills, just need to see a difference maker.
 

leebigeztx

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I act like I'm currently ok with how the rebuild is going and I Mills to be the QB unless there's an Elway/Manning type QB available.
So unless there is a generational talent, you're not drafting a qb? Imagine if Buffalo,Chargers,GB,Pittsburgh,and KC had said that. Ben,Rodgers,Herbert,Mahomes wouldn't have been drafted.
 

Rich Schmidt

Myopicone
So unless there is a generational talent, you're not drafting a qb? Imagine if Buffalo,Chargers,GB,Pittsburgh,and KC had said that. Ben,Rodgers,Herbert,Mahomes wouldn't have been drafted.
Let's all be honest, it is a crapshoot. How about this list of top 5-10ish picks, Leaf, Jamarcus Russell, Marinovich, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, JOey Harrington, David Carr, Jeff George, Leinart... Thus, I get both sides when you are in QB hell, enough hope they will be ok, versus taking a flyer on these guys that fail more than they work. So, you have to decide what you have is not better than trying again. Most of these guys take a couple years, so even when you draft, you have at least a year of development too. By mid year, we will know which direction Mills and thus the team will be moving.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
Let's all be honest, it is a crapshoot. How about this list of top 5-10ish picks, Leaf, Jamarcus Russell, Marinovich, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, JOey Harrington, David Carr, Jeff George, Leinart... Thus, I get both sides when you are in QB hell, enough hope they will be ok, versus taking a flyer on these guys that fail more than they work. So, you have to decide what you have is not better than trying again. Most of these guys take a couple years, so even when you draft, you have at least a year of development too. By mid year, we will know which direction Mills and thus the team will be moving.
Trying to be reasonable huh? You know that crap isn't acceptable around here. :evilb:
 

Toro Bravo

Waterboy
Let's all be honest, it is a crapshoot. How about this list of top 5-10ish picks, Leaf, Jamarcus Russell, Marinovich, Heath Shuler, Rick Mirer, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, JOey Harrington, David Carr, Jeff George, Leinart... Thus, I get both sides when you are in QB hell, enough hope they will be ok, versus taking a flyer on these guys that fail more than they work. So, you have to decide what you have is not better than trying again. Most of these guys take a couple years, so even when you draft, you have at least a year of development too. By mid year, we will know which direction Mills and thus the team will be moving.
That is exactly why I prefer that we acquire a veteran either through trade or free agency, while also drafting a QB prospect. There were several QB's available this year that are all better than Mills;
Russell Wilson.
Jimmy G.
Mariotta.
Ryan.
Mayfield.
None of them are considered franchise QB's anymore but they are all better than what we have now. Even Geno Smith looks OK. I prefer a known entity over a crap shoot any day.
 

OptimisticTexan

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That is exactly why I prefer that we acquire a veteran either through trade or free agency, while also drafting a QB prospect. There were several QB's available this year that are all better than Mills;
Russell Wilson.
Jimmy G.
Mariotta.
Ryan.
Mayfield.
None of them are considered franchise QB's anymore but they are all better than what we have now. Even Geno Smith looks OK. I prefer a known entity over a crap shoot any day.
...with their respective teams. Haven't seen any of them suit up and play behind this pitiful OL.
 

Porky

Hall of Fame
I'm more concerned with the running game to be honest. Nick had one job this offseason. Fix the *&#@$@!# running game, and he failed. Rex Burkhead? Are you kidding me. This offseason was an epic fail because he didn't do the one thing that was absolutely essential.

Next year, we need to go heavy offense. Draft your QB if he's there - TBD. If he's not, sign or trade for a so-so veteran and grab your QB in 24 and go with a dynamic D player there. I'm ok with a Geno Smith type for a year if necessary. I've seen enough of Mills, he can be released for all I care. With the other first rounder, I'm looking for a dynamic weapon in the passing game. Someone that can be the #1 with time. Then I am looking at RB or Oline (Center?) with the 2nd round and 3rd round would be vice versa.

After that, depth pieces on the defense/ST types.
 

thunderkyss

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That is exactly why I prefer that we acquire a veteran either through trade or free agency, while also drafting a QB prospect. There were several QB's available this year that are all better than Mills;
Russell Wilson.
Jimmy G.
Mariotta.
Ryan.
Mayfield.
None of them are considered franchise QB's anymore but they are all better than what we have now. Even Geno Smith looks OK. I prefer a known entity over a crap shoot any day.
Russell Wilson was acquired through trade. So was Ryan & Mayfield. We didn't have the capital to trade for Russ until after we traded Watson.

One of the reasons we are in the mess we are in is that we've traded away our talent for pretty poor returns. We traded away our draft picks for players, Watson, Tunsil, that have not paid off.

Jimmy G has not been traded because they're asking more than what others wanted to give & it seems to be working out for them now that their starter is hurt.

Ryan hasn't looked good for a little while in Atlanta. He didn't look good yesterday in the win against the Chiefs. They won that game because they were able to stop the run, frustrate the QB (Mahomes), & run the ball.

None of the things we've been able to do in Houston, though our HC says those are the things we want to do.

It would have been great to get Russell Wilson. But he had a NTC in his contract & being that our QB was fighting to get out of here, I doubt Russ would have waived the NTC to come here.

The other guys you have mentioned have pretty much already peaked.

I did not want to draft a QB in 2021. But I will admit he (Mills) has more upside than Geno Smith. I understand many here are starting to doubt that upside, but it's only been three games. I think it's premature. Time will tell.
 

steelbtexan

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Russell Wilson was acquired through trade. So was Ryan & Mayfield. We didn't have the capital to trade for Russ until after we traded Watson.

One of the reasons we are in the mess we are in is that we've traded away our talent for pretty poor returns. We traded away our draft picks for players, Watson, Tunsil, that have not paid off.

Jimmy G has not been traded because they're asking more than what others wanted to give & it seems to be working out for them now that their starter is hurt.

Ryan hasn't looked good for a little while in Atlanta. He didn't look good yesterday in the win against the Chiefs. They won that game because they were able to stop the run, frustrate the QB (Mahomes), & run the ball.

None of the things we've been able to do in Houston, though our HC says those are the things we want to do.

It would have been great to get Russell Wilson. But he had a NTC in his contract & being that our QB was fighting to get out of here, I doubt Russ would have waived the NTC to come here.

The other guys you have mentioned have pretty much already peaked.

I did not want to draft a QB in 2021. But I will admit he (Mills) has more upside than Geno Smith. I understand many here are starting to doubt that upside, but it's only been three games. I think it's premature. Time will tell.
Agreed, but Wilson is looking washed.
 

Thorn

Dirty Old Man
I would think that by any standards, Casino is doing at a minimum above average. If he continues to draft in this manner, you should see a nice improvement next year, and you should reasonably be able to talk about being in the wildcard race in 2024.

Of course Lovie will have to get his sh!t together for that to happen, but it's certainly possible. We could also reasonably be looking at a HC and QB in 2024 with another overhaul. LOL
 
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Speedy

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If he continues to draft in this manner,
Draft in what manner? His 1st draft doesn’t look all that great. Mills looks lost, Collins continues to be a non factor, Wallow? Bleh. Jordan? Bleh. And Lopez started 15 games last year which we all thought was great for a 6th rounder but did he start all of those games because he’s good or did he start all of those games because the talent is that bad? He doesn’t seem to be having much impact this year.

This year’s draft is still a work in progress. Stingley and Pitre have big potential. Haven’t really paid much attention to Green. I don’t hear his name much so I guess he’s doing alright. Pierce is a bulldozer but I don’t how long he can last being that violent a runner. And the rest haven’t seen the field yet.
 


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