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Nick Caserio - New GM

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I still don’t know why people think a franchise that was named in a racial discrimination lawsuit, a sexual assault case, and subsequently had/have their actions looked at that much closer can think that the franchise was able to throw a game for the first pick.

I get that people are fans of Young and Stroud. Same thing happened with VY and Watson. The mindset turned to fans of the player vs fans of the team.

It’s just funny to see people so upset that a GM, not the head coach, was not able to make the team lose.
 
theCATALYST

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TexansBull said:
I still don’t know why people think a franchise that was named in a racial discrimination lawsuit, a sexual assault case, and subsequently had/have their actions looked at that much closer can think that the franchise was able to throw a game for the first pick.

I get that people are fans of Young and Stroud. Same thing happened with VY and Watson. The mindset turned to fans of the player vs fans of the team.

It’s just funny to see people so upset that a GM, not the head coach, was not able to make the team lose.
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Steps could have been taken to improve our odds of losing, namely benching Cooks. There was plenty of reason to do this as he has not exactly been in our good graces late in the season.
 
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theCATALYST said:
Steps could have been taken to improve our odds of losing, namely benching Cooks. There was plenty of reason to do this as he has not exactly been in our good graces late in the season.
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Caserio is responsible for which players play?
 
TexansBull

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theCATALYST said:
Steps could have been taken to improve our odds of losing, namely benching Cooks. There was plenty of reason to do this as he has not exactly been in our good graces late in the season.
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Benching Cooks?

The guy who said he is going to write a “tell all” about what happens with the Texans? The team named in sexual assault and racial discrimination. Yeah - OK. Real easy.

And once again - the GM may not have final say over the roster. That is the HC.
 
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theCATALYST said:
Good question. It is his team, I would assume he shares in that responsibility, or at least has the power to make it happen. Why leave it in the coaches hands when he clearly was not going to remain a Texan?
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It’s not the GMs team. It’s Janice’s who let’s Cal run things who is letting Hannah run things.

If it is in the contract of the HC to have final say over the roster then the GM has no power while the HC is employed. And it may be that only the owner can fire the HC.

This may sound convoluted, confusing, and unconventional but we are talking about the Texans and how they do things.

Just saying.
 
theCATALYST

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TexansBull said:
Benching Cooks?

The guy who said he is going to write a “tell all” about what happens with the Texans? The team named in sexual assault and racial discrimination. Yeah - OK. Real easy.

And once again - the GM may not have final say over the roster. That is the HC.
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What exactly does a Brandon Cooks even know to put in a "tell all" book besides what Jack Easterby's rear end tastes like. That dude was powerless, just a whiny diva wanting a trade and mad that it didn't happen fast enough.
 
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theCATALYST said:
What exactly does a Brandon Cooks even know to put in a "tell all" book besides what Jack Easterby's rear end tastes like. That dude was powerless, just a whiny diva wanting a trade and mad that it didn't happen fast enough.
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The guy was here with Watson the year he was getting all those massages?

The better question is why fuckaround and find out?

Do you want him to say something like I hear that Cal told Easterby to get Watson a room at the Houstonian. Even if it ain’t true all of sudden it casts suspicion on the Texans. We already lost a fifth round draft pick. You want to re-open Pandora’s box for the NFL to pull emails to see who was saying what? Then to drop the hammer on the Texans the same way the hammer was dropped on the Astros?

Screw that.

The better solution was Cal to fire Lovie when he knew he was going to fire him.
 
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Interesting point about Caserio's apparent insecurity about his own choices and vision for the team.

I'd never thought about that angle. And me makes me think of the Virgil quote: "They can because they think they can."

And come to think of it, that's been his M.O. the entire time. His word salads reveal it. Nice guy, but kind of timid.

But, then I realize Nick is the perfect GM for the McNairs (but not necessarily perfect for building a championship team). He's a consensus builder, not an authoritarian. They would never hire a big boss GM. He's exactly what they are: bland and milquetoast. Nothing bold, nothing daring, just fingers in the wind checking the direction.

And it gets to the basic flaw in the foundation of this franchise: the owners are, and have always been, wimps. Very nice folks, very charitable, very gracious, but they lack the the killer instinct.

Hopefully DeMeco can lead the blind squirrel to a nut and not become one himself.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Looking back at when Caserio was first announced as the Texans new GM, it's curious that many of the same people that criticized his appointment because Belichick controlled virtually everything with the Patriots, are the same people that now make it sound as if he controlled virtually all the important decisions/mistakes.
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Here are my initial thoughts, two days after Caserio was hired:
(2) Nick Caserio - New GM | Page 7 | Houston Texans Message Board & Forum - TexansTalk.com
 
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Double Barrel said:
He's a consensus builder, not an authoritarian. They would never hire a big boss GM. He's exactly what they are: bland and milquetoast. Nothing bold, nothing daring, just fingers in the wind checking the direction.
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Personally, I'm not seeing the problem here. Both of these management strategies can work and both of them can go horribly wrong.

One of the big problems with most of the failed coaches on the Parcells/Belicheck tree is that they become authoritarians without being able to do the things to succeed that Parcells and Belicheck have done.

And if O'Brien wasn't an Authoritarian-type, then I don't understand the definition. I don't want that crap again.
 
Thorn

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Double Barrel said:
Interesting point about Caserio's apparent insecurity about his own choices and vision for the team.

I'd never thought about that angle. And me makes me think of the Virgil quote: "They can because they think they can."

And come to think of it, that's been his M.O. the entire time. His word salads reveal it. Nice guy, but kind of timid.

But, then I realize Nick is the perfect GM for the McNairs (but not necessarily perfect for building a championship team). He's a consensus builder, not an authoritarian. They would never hire a big boss GM. He's exactly what they are: bland and milquetoast. Nothing bold, nothing daring, just fingers in the wind checking the direction.

And it gets to the basic flaw in the foundation of this franchise: the owners are, and have always been, wimps. Very nice folks, very charitable, very gracious, but they lack the the killer instinct.

Hopefully DeMeco can lead the blind squirrel to a nut and not become one himself.
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Yep, excellent post. The Texans are what they are, and they will always be that. Unless they accidently hire someone who changes things. Casino is NOT that happy accident, but DeMeco might be. It's what I'm hoping for.
 
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Thorn said:
Yep, excellent post. The Texans are what they are, and they will always be that. Unless they accidently hire someone who changes things. Casino is NOT that happy accident, but DeMeco might be. It's what I'm hoping for.
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Demeco might be, and hopefully he changes the entire culture of this franchise, but not because he is an authoritarian. Like @The Pencil Neck said, we saw what authoritarian got us in OB. Hard pass on that moving forward.
 
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The Pencil Neck said:
Personally, I'm not seeing the problem here. Both of these management strategies can work and both of them can go horribly wrong.

One of the big problems with most of the failed coaches on the Parcells/Belicheck tree is that they become authoritarians without being able to do the things to succeed that Parcells and Belicheck have done.

And if O'Brien wasn't an Authoritarian-type, then I don't understand the definition. I don't want that crap again.
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Texans have tried both ways and neither have worked for them.

Success starts with ownership. That was my inherent point.
 
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TexansBull said:
I still don’t know why people think a franchise that was named in a racial discrimination lawsuit, a sexual assault case, and subsequently had/have their actions looked at that much closer can think that the franchise was able to throw a game for the first pick.

I get that people are fans of Young and Stroud. Same thing happened with VY and Watson. The mindset turned to fans of the player vs fans of the team.

It’s just funny to see people so upset that a GM, not the head coach, was not able to make the team lose.
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"lets evaluate the young guys for next year" . its not rocket science
 
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steelbtexan

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TexansBull said:
Nelson’s agent is David Mulugheta.

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According to Aaron Wilson, Texans CB Steven Nelson plans to rejoin the team and attend mandatory minicamp this coming week after staying away from voluntary OTAs. Wilson also confirms that Nelson recently switched agents, hiring
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Shocking

Said nobody

The McNair's willingly signed up for this with their most important player. In 3 yrs you can expect this with Stroud even if he's a middling QB, like Nelson is a middling CB.
 
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steelbtexan said:
Shocking

Said nobody

The McNair's willingly signed up for this with their most important player. In 3 yrs you can expect this with Stroud even if he's a middling QB, like Nelson is a middling CB.
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If he is a middling QB in three years, I would hope he would be easy to part ways with. I for one don't care how good a QB is, I don't want to EVER see a no trade clause in a Texans contract ever again. Money....well....money depends on skill depends on wins depends on championships. No glory/No dollars
 
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BattleRedBlud said:
If he is a middling QB in three years, I would hope he would be easy to part ways with. I for one don't care how good a QB is, I don't want to EVER see a no trade clause in a Texans contract ever again. Money....well....money depends on skill depends on wins depends on championships. No glory/No dollars
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Cousins/Dak have made great careers out of being middling QB's. I'm with you on the NTC.
 
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Dejaview said:
forget NC. NC handled himself well through the DW escapade. This is child’s play. But NC is not Nelson’s worry. It’s HC Demeco Ryans. It’s new coach statement time and my guess is that Nelson has as much time with the Texans as Prigozhin has on earth and for about the same reasons.
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I don't want to knock Nelson, he's a legit starting CB in the league. But, he's not the kind of guy that's going to get a big contract. The Texans have CBs that could easily replace him in Griffin and King. Nelson has been around the NFL block. He should know this.
 
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