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CloakNNNdagger said:
Ravens WR Keaton Mitchell sure looks like he not only tore his ACL, but probably several of the other knee ligaments along with meniscus and articular cartilage damage. Hopefully, he didn't suffer nerve or artery damage.
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Yeah you can tell it was not gonna be good the way he went down. He's an explosive RB, hopefully he can recover to play again at or close to his pre-injury level.
 
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Cold pizza: DeVito event canceled over QB's fee

Tommy DeVito and his agent apparently have run afoul of a New Jersey pizzeria, which said it canceled an event featuring the Giants quarterback because he doubled his appearance fee.
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Tommy DeVito and his agent apparently have run afoul of a New Jersey pizzeria, which says it canceled an event featuring the New York Giants quarterback because he doubled his appearance fee.

Coniglio's Old Fashioned pizzeria announced on social media that it would no longer be hosting DeVito on Tuesday after the restaurant "received word from his agent that his appearance fee would be doubling" from $10,000 to $20,000.
 
Playing with the Injury Reports has been something I have harped on for quite a while. The Texans have not been an exceptionn.

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Buccaneers have walked into an injury-reporting issue over Devin White
By Mike Florio
Published December 19, 2023 01:03 P

Things are currently going well for the Buccaneers. They aren’t going as well for Buccaneers linebacker Devin White.

White was officially questionable for Sunday’s game at Green Bay. He did not play. After Friday’s designation was applied, he had not been downgraded to out.

With the explanation he provided on Monday, coach Todd Bowles might have walked right into an injury-reporting issue.

“Devin told me Friday he couldn’t play, or Saturday or Friday he couldn’t play,” Bowles said Monday, via Rick Stroud of the Tampa Bay Times. “So K.J. [Britt] started.”

Amid reports that White’s absence wasn’t related to injury but to the fact that he wasn’t going to be starting, Bowles was pressed on the decision not to downgrade White to out.

“It didn’t have to be communicated because there was nothing to communicate,” Bowles said. “He practiced on Friday. He practiced on Thursday. And he said he couldn’t go Saturday morning. That’s the end of it.”
That’s actually just the beginning of it. Once the team knows a player won’t play due to injury, it has an obligation to promptly inform the league and the other team about the development.

It’s just the latest example of teams playing fast and loose with the injury-reporting rules. Until the league does something about it, it will continue. Eventually, teams will get more brazen about it.

In this case, it’s possible that the Bucs are using the injury excuse as cover for White tapping out. The problem is that the failure to downgrade White could get them in hot water with the league.
 
JB said:
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Cold pizza: DeVito event canceled over QB's fee

Tommy DeVito and his agent apparently have run afoul of a New Jersey pizzeria, which said it canceled an event featuring the Giants quarterback because he doubled his appearance fee.
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Tommy DeVito and his agent apparently have run afoul of a New Jersey pizzeria, which says it canceled an event featuring the New York Giants quarterback because he doubled his appearance fee.

Coniglio's Old Fashioned pizzeria announced on social media that it would no longer be hosting DeVito on Tuesday after the restaurant "received word from his agent that his appearance fee would be doubling" from $10,000 to $20,000.
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DeVito makes good, shows up at pizzeria after tiff

Giants quarterback Tommy DeVito made good on an apparent appearance at a New Jersey-based pizzeria after the restaurant announced it had to cancel the event due to the appearance fee getting doubled.
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Uh OH!! Deflate Gate II???

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Report: Kicking balls were underinflated during Patriots-Chiefs
By Mike Florio
Published December 20, 2023 07:31 PM

It’s not quite Deflategate II, but it’s fun to think of it that way.

Via Mark Daniels of MassLive.com, the official kicking balls were underinflated for Sunday’s game between the Chiefs and Patriots at Gillette Stadium.

The accepted range is 12.5 to 13.5 psi. At halftime, the balls were measured as having a psi of 11. The balls were properly inflated for the second half of the game.

Underinflation might have contributed to missed first-half field goals by Patriots kicker Chad Ryland and Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker. Before Sunday, Butker had a perfect season of field goals and extra points.

“[The Patriots] told the refs they were a little under inflated or they felt that way,” Daniels reports. citing an unnamed source. “At halftime, they confirmed and obviously put air in them.”

The kicking balls are kept separate and apart from the balls used by the two teams. If those balls are underinflated or overinflated, it’s nothing that any specific team is responsible for.

Per the report, the Patriots noticed something was off when the opening kickoff traveled only to the three yard line, allowing for the Patriots to return it.
 
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NFL upholds regular-season ban for safety Kazee

The NFL upheld Pittsburgh Steelers safety Damontae Kazee's regular-season suspension after hearing officer James Thrash, jointly appointed by the NFL and NFLPA, heard Kazee's appeal, the league announced.
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If the Steelers (7-7) make the playoffs, though, the safety would be eligible to rejoin the active roster.

Kazee was suspended without pay for the final three regular-season games after a hard hit on Michael Pittman Jr. that landed the Indianapolis Colts wide receiver in the concussion protocol. Kazee was flagged and ejected for the hit during Saturday's matchup. The NFL announced Monday that Kazee was suspended for repeated violation of rules meant to protect the health and safety of players.
 
Sad and pathetic..........following NFL's motto..........squeeze every drop you can out of fans...........

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Some Lions fans face season-ticket price increases of nearly 150 percent
Published December 21, 2023 09:52 AM

Yes, it’s getting more expensive to go to Lions games. For some fans, it’s dramatically more expensive.

Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press has found a season-ticket holder who initially believed the email was mistaken. It wasn’t.

Jeff Paxton paid $5,536 for four season tickets in 2023. Next year, the same seats will cost $13,616.

That’s a price increase of 146 percent.

Paxton contacted his season-ticket rep. A full 24 hours later, Paxton had not gotten a response.

“We’ve seen a steep rise in the market value of the tickets which helped inform all of our pricing increases,” a Lions spokesperson told Birkett. “The tickets in question, front row seats, were significantly under market value in the past, which is why they’re seeing the higher increase.”

It’s one of the basic realities of a world in which scalping is perfectly legal. The market sets the ultimate price. If those tickets are going for far more
than the Lions are getting, why not charge more in the first place?

In the end, it’s all driven by economics. Loyal fans who paid for season tickets during plenty of subpar seasons might not like that, but that’s the way it goes. Look at the money Lions fans are spending to go to road games. It shows a willingness to pay more to go to home games.

If the current season-ticket holders don’t want to pay the price, someone else will. The teams will never put it that bluntly, but it’s true.

Supply and demand. Football is business. They say “football is family” because it’s good for business to say “football is family.”

And it’s not good for business to say, “If you don’t want to pay higher prices, turn in your season tickets so we can sell them to someone who will happily write the check.”
 
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Coroner: Ex-Buc Williams died of bacterial sepsis

Former Buccaneers star wide receiver Mike Williams died as the result of a rare bacterial sepsis after suffering injuries in a work-related construction accident Aug. 21, the Hillsborough County (Florida) Medical Examiner's office said Thursday.
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TAMPA, Fla. -- Former Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Syracuse star wide receiver Mike Williams died as the result of a rare bacterial sepsis after suffering injuries in a work-related construction accident Aug. 21, the Hillsborough County (Florida) Medical Examiner's Office said Thursday.
 
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Coroner: Ex-Buc Williams died of bacterial sepsis

Former Buccaneers star wide receiver Mike Williams died as the result of a rare bacterial sepsis after suffering injuries in a work-related construction accident Aug. 21, the Hillsborough County (Florida) Medical Examiner's office said Thursday.
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TAMPA, Fla. -- Former Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Syracuse star wide receiver Mike Williams died as the result of a rare bacterial sepsis after suffering injuries in a work-related construction accident Aug. 21, the Hillsborough County (Florida) Medical Examiner's Office said Thursday.
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The initial case summary report ruled the cause of death was “bacterial sepsis with cerebral (brain) abscesses and necrotizing (gangrening) lobar pneumonia due to multiple dental caries and retained dental roots.” Arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease was also listed as a contributing factor. The full toxicology report and autopsy are still pending.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The initial case summary report ruled the cause of death was “bacterial sepsis with cerebral (brain) abscesses and necrotizing (gangrening) lobar pneumonia due to multiple dental caries and retained dental roots.” Arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease was also listed as a contributing factor. The full toxicology report and autopsy are still pending.
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Can we get a translation for us laymen?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The initial case summary report ruled the cause of death was “bacterial sepsis with cerebral (brain) abscesses and necrotizing (gangrening) lobar pneumonia due to multiple dental caries and retained dental roots.” Arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease was also listed as a contributing factor. The full toxicology report and autopsy are still pending.
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So this dude f*ck*ng died after he got gangrene in his brain from having... cavities?!

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thunderkyss said:
Can we get a translation for us laymen?
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Mollywhopper said:
So this dude f*ck*ng died after he got gangrene in his brain from having... cavities?!

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I tried to put in some lay terms in brackets. But I'll try to simplify it more.

When you get septic, meaning the bacteria has spread throughout the body through the arteries and veins, they can travel to any structure/organ.............e.g., the brain, the lungs, the heart, the kidneys, the liver, etc. and do massive damage causing extensive cell death (gangrene) to them via the extreme inflammatory reactions it causes. When large amounts of bacteria travel in the blood vessels, they can cause clotting of the blood vessels.............cutting off the blood supply to the structures they feed.........also resulting in death (gangrene) of the structures. Unattended tooth abscesses (and gingivitis [infection of the gumms] are a very unfortunate (and usually preventable) source of sepsis.

Williams presented with a cardiac arrest (heart affected by the sepsis)..........respiratory failure (lung affected by the sepsis)............brain abscesses (brain affected by the sepsis).

The wide spread atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries caused by cholesterol/fatty plaques accumulating on the interior lining of the arteries) perfectly set up severe consequences of the infection in at least 3 ways.

First, the plaques would have narrowed the size of the arteries, thus already decreasing blood flow to the vital structures. Second, bacteria in the blood stream are well-known to tightly bind to diseased artery lining and plaque, making antibiotics less effective...........this reaction causes the artery to inflame and swell, further decreasing the diameter of the artery. Third, plaque and its adhering bacteria result in clotting of the blood vessels, thus cutting off blood supply to the structures that depend on the blood flow for survival.

I hope this helps because it's the simplest that I can break it down.

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Titans Levis has a high ankle sprain and is QUESTIONABLE for Sunday. The Titans have no business putting him out there.....especially since they are out of the playoff run.
 
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Falcons fined for handling of Week 7 injury report

The NFL has fined the Atlanta Falcons $75,000 and head coach Arthur Smith $25,000 for its handling of the team's injury report prior to its Week 7 game against Tampa Bay in October.
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I didn't know that Arthur Smith was the heir to the Fedex fortune...
(that piece of info was originally in the article but has been removed)
 
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Legalized gambling is complicating the NFL's life regarding the Injury Reports. I'm waiting for some entity, who has lost a large sum of money due to a manipulated/fraudulent Injury Report, sues the NFL.

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Bijan Robinson injury-report fine opens potential can of worms for NFL
By Mike Florio
Published December 23, 2023 08:14 AM

Before legalized gambling, teams that played fast and loose with the rules regarding the reporting of injuries created potential problems between themselves and the league. With legalized gambling prevalent throughout most of the country, teams that engage in injury-report irregularities can now create separate problems for themselves and the league.

The first tangible example of the full-blown DraftKings/FanDuel era comes from the $100,000 in fines imposed on the Falcons and coach Arthur Smith for failing to disclose running back Bijan Robinson’s Week 7 illness. Though he played in the game, Robinson had limited snaps and only one touch — his lowest amount of the year, by far.

Apart from the potential strategic impact this might have had on the Buccaneers, who lost the game by three points in overtime, the successful concealment of Robinson’s health status led bettors to believe Robinson was fine.

It’s not about bets placed on the Falcons to win or to cover the spread. It’s about the various prop bets available based on yards gained by Robinson or catches made or touchdowns scored by Robinson. Also, the various forms of for-money fantasy football require lineup decisions to be made. Robinson, the eighth overall pick in the draft, has been a darling of the fantasy crowd. His one-touch showing created a firestorm among those who might have gone in a different direction if they’d known Robinson was sick.

And that’s where it can become very interesting, and expensive, for the Falcons, and possibly the league. As explained after the Bengals apparently concealed an existing wrist/hand/thumb/whatever injury to quarterback Joe Burrow, it doesn’t take much to file a class action on behalf of anyone/everyone who wagered money on Robinson to exceed the over-under for yards and touchdowns, or who kept him in the lineup for an ultimately successful financial endeavor in the fantasy realm.

For any lawyer evaluating a possible civil lawsuit, three key factors are considered: (1) liability; (2) damages; and (3) collectibility. Here, the third element is a no-brainer; the NFL has billions. The league’s decision to fine the Falcons makes it a lot easier to establish liability for deliberate fraud or misrepresentation, intentional or negligent. (The NFL could be added as a defendant under the argument that it has negligently failed to enforce its rules in the past.) The challenge in a case like this becomes putting together a damages award big enough to make the case worth a lawyer’s while.

That’s where the class action — which corporate America despises — becomes very useful. Person by person, the amount lost is usually too small to worry about. Add it all up from coast to coast, however, and the money becomes potentially significant.

How many people ultimately bet on Robinson to exceed his various props that day? Who knows? The sports books surely have that information.

Whether it happens in the Robinson case, the Burrow case (the league predictably exonerated the Bengals; the investigation sparked by a lawsuit could lead to a much different conclusion), or the next example of a skill-position player whose team hid his injury or illness from those who bet on team or individual performance, the class action is coming.

Crazier class actions have been filed. For example, a Jets season-ticket holder filed a class action against Patriots coach Bill Belichick over Spygate. The case argued that the cheating violated the contractual expectations of the people who pay to watch the games. The legal theory failed. In other words, there was no liability.

In cases like this, it would be much easier. The league has clear rules regarding injury disclosure. Bettors reasonably rely on the fact that the information is accurate. If it’s proven that the team hid the truth, it becomes much easier to show that fair compensation is owed to bettors who relied on it.

It would be very difficult at this point for the teams and the league to claim that they have no duty to the bettors. With the NFL stuffing its pockets full of every sports book sponsorship dollar it can grab, it can’t claim that the general betting public shouldn’t rely on the accuracy of the injury reports — especially since the NFL has never made any effort to add a “there’s a chance the teams are hiding injuries” disclaimer to the weekly injury information.

These factors surely made it difficult for the league to muster the will to whack the Falcons. But what choice did the NFL have? The proof that the illness was hidden was already irrefutable; the NFL could have only made things worse by covering it all up.

The question now becomes whether, by strategically tucking the announcement of the punishment into the afternoon hours of the Friday of Christmas weekend, the league and the Falcons will dodge the legal bullet.
 
badboy said:
I did not see this post in anywhere and it could be very beneficial to us in our final game and also to the Colts record. Neither have played much.
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From last Tuesday>>>>>>>>

CloakNNNdagger said:
The Colts have placed cornerback Tony Brown and wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie on the reserve suspended list for three games for conduct detrimental to the team.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Legalized gambling is complicating the NFL's life regarding the Injury Reports. I'm waiting for some entity, who has lost a large sum of money due to a manipulated/fraudulent Injury Report, sues the NFL.
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General opinion question, what legal liability or responsibility would the NFL have to any gambling entity or person? In the snippet below from the NFL injury policy, nowhere does it mentions providing that information to or for gambling entities. I'm sure the NFL gets some revenue from gambling related sponsorships but I wouldn't think to the point of accepting responsibility for losses due a lost wager(s) based on injury reports. It's definitely a mess.

From the NFL Operations Page on the NFL Injury Report Policy:
The NFL injury policy requires that teams provide credible, accurate and specific information about injured players to the league office, their opponents, local and national media, and the league’s broadcast partners each week during the regular season and postseason.
 
thunderkyss said:
We've got one dude we're criticizing because he can't be bothered with being with his team ..

& we're going to criticize this guy for pulling out all the stops because he's getting paid millions for 4 snaps.

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Not sure what you’re getting at? You agree that Rodgers is a doosh?
and who are you referring to in the first statement?
 
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