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Three of the suspensions for legally gambling on college games.............but while doing it from NFL property. 

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Would have thunk they would have learned from Ridley... not all players are sharp as a tackThree of the suspensions for legally gambling on college games.............but while doing it from NFL property.
Ridley bet on an NFL team. The on-NFL-premise clause is a little known one.Would have thunk they would have learned from Ridley... not all players are sharp as a tack
I'm sure the players knew of it. No gambling on NFL propertyRidley bet on an NFL team. The on-NFL-premise clause is a little known one.
You might think so. I talked to several players including Texans players where the subject came up with Ridley's suspension. The conversation came around to where the bets could not be placed. One of them when told, that even joked they should just use a VPN.I'm sure the players knew of it. No gambling on NFL property
I thought I read when they posted the rules when Ridley was suspended (or maybe it was when he was reinstated) that no gambling was allowed on NFL properties, not even the hotel a team was staying atYou might think so. I talked to several players including Texans players where the subject came up with Ridley's suspension. The conversation came around to where the bets could not be placed. One of them when told, that even joked they should just use a VPN.![]()
You're probably right, but sometimes I wonder how literate some NFL players are when we know that 20 percent of U.S. college students completing four-year degrees—and 30 percent of students earning two-year degrees—have only basic quantitative literacy skills, meaning they are unable to estimate if their car has enough gasoline to get to the next gas station or calculate the total cost of ordering office supplies, according to a new national survey by the American Institutes for Research (AIR).I thought I read when they posted the rules when Ridley was suspended (or maybe it was when he was reinstated) that no gambling was allowed on NFL properties, not even the hotel a team was staying at
Unfortunately, money drives the NFL. Now especially since there are so many domed stadiums (10), grass will present some real problems if attempts are made to keep the grass viable.What needs to be done to make any change happen? Rallies, trials, personal conversations, or something else?
There's hardly an understanding of the NFL. The league will do what is more profitable. As long as it's not punishable.
This should be a must-read for every football player..........and fan. The NFL and their supporting physicians have historically been very irresponsible on how they handle concussions.![]()
Concussion expert Chris Nowinski says Tua Tagovailoa ‘being completely misled' on CTE | Habib
Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa says specialists told him CTE 'wasn't going to be a problem.' Concussion expert Chris Nowinski questions that.sports.yahoo.com
Dolphins quarterback Tua Tagovailoa says specialists told him CTE 'wasn't going to be a problem.' Concussion expert Chris Nowinski questions that.
As CloakNNNdagger has been saying for years concerning concussions.
Jones: NFL’s nonsensical player gambling policy needs review after suspensions
- https://theathletic.com/4437451/202...lions/?source=freeweeklyemail&campaign=602288
- Mike Jones
- 4 min read
If you find yourself with questions after five NFL players were suspended Friday for violating the league’s policy on sports betting, you are not alone.
The NFL suspended Detroit Lions wide receiver Quintez Cephus and defensive back C.J. Moore, plus Washington Commanders defensive end Shaka Toney, through at least the conclusion of the 2023 season for betting on league games in 2022 (the Lions responded by releasing Cephus and Moore). Lions wideouts Jameson Williams and Stanley Berryhill were also suspended for six games in 2023 for what the team said were “other gambling policy violations, including betting from an NFL facility on non-NFL games.”
The actions raise so many questions: Why did the players think they could get away with this? How did anyone find out about it?
But here’s another one: Will this go down as a tale of player stupidity, or NFL hypocrisy?
How about both.
There’s no defending the actions of Cephus, Moore and Toney, who all apparently tried to make a little pocket change by placing wagers on NFL games. And Berryhill and Williams should have known better than to place bets on other sports while at work, since that is indeed something the NFL’s gambling policy for players forbids.
https://theathletic.com/4437024/2023/04/21/nfl-gambling-rules-explained/
Every May, each team’s player development department shows a video that covers the dos and don’ts of sports betting. Players are reminded of the policy when they return for training camp, and then those reminders continue to circulate during the regular season.
But it’s impossible to review this incident without addressing the hypocritical nature of the NFL’s policies for players on gambling.
It’s OK for the NFL to make billions of dollars off partnerships with legalized sports-betting companies (legal gambling was projected by the American Gambling Association to increase the NFL’s annual revenue by $2.3 billion per year). But players must abide by a different standard.
Neither Williams nor Berryhill, both second-year players, bet on NFL games. Docking them six game checks as punishment feels harsh and incredibly unfair.
It’s understandable why the NFL doesn’t allow players to bet on league games. That could lead to the temptation of game-fixing, which greatly threatens the credibility of the league.
But you would be hard pressed to find many associated with the NFL who understand the league’s ability to stipulate where acceptable forms of gambling on other sports can take place.
Sure, you can bet on NBA, MLB, NHL or NCAA contests, the league essentially tells players, but just don’t do it at our stadiums or practice facilities.
How does that make sense when the CBA that the NFL’s owners and players agreed to in 2020 allowed for the establishment of sportsbooks in NFL stadiums?
It’s a dumb rule, and some would say a dumb mistake made by Williams and Berryhill.
But it’s another example of pro football’s owners wanting to maintain their grip over their players while also trying to make as much money as possible. Players were willing to accept the hypocrisy of the gambling policies in the latest collective bargaining agreement because more money for the league also translates into more money in their pockets, thanks to the agreed-upon revenue split between the NFL and NFLPA.
NFL officials and owners were kidding themselves, though, if they thought they could partner with sports-betting companies, plaster signage all over their stadiums and flood the airwaves with promotional content and not lure their players into the action.
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Yep - if you don't like it, find a job elsewhere.Another "poor players/victimized by the league" article...
Did the NFL get in bed with the Devil? Yes, but that doesn't mean they're being hypocrites for asking the players to follow new company policies regarding their new business partners. A partnership that has given the league enough revenue to supply NFL players the type of guaranteed contracts they've been griping years for. No one is clean here. Where do the players think this new money is coming from?
The rules are simple.. not hard to follow. (not directed at you) Guess what, part of being a adult is following rules at work you may or may not agree with. Some you might think are really stupid.
I don't believe that anyone would argue that the players have broken the rules, and that their infractions should be addressed. But it seems to be the arbitrary and selective nature in which the incriminating information is being gathered.Another "poor players/victimized by the league" article...
Did the NFL get in bed with the Devil? Yes, but that doesn't mean they're being hypocrites for asking the players to follow new company policies regarding their new business partners. A partnership that has given the league enough revenue to supply NFL players the type of guaranteed contracts they've been griping years for. No one is clean here. Where do the players think this new money is coming from?
The rules are simple.. not hard to follow. (not directed at you) Guess what, part of being a adult is following rules at work you may or may not agree with. Some you might think are really stupid.
Wonder who will take a flyer on Zach Wilson
Wonder who will take a flyer on Zach Wilson
I don’t know, this has been brewing for three years at least. The Packers “knew” what they were doing.Rodgers honestly did his former and current team dirtier than pre fun towel Watson or Lamar Jackson. I wonder if he is going to get bashed at the same level...
Keep him away from Hannah, he likes them Milfs and she needs to focus on running the team and be ready to cut his AzzI would, if they give him to us extremely cheap. Let him be a camp arm. Let him earn a job from there. He has talent, it didn't just disappear. He needs a fresh start, new surroundings and new coaches. And he also needs an environment where he earns his job and it isnt just handed to him.
I would take a QB that has won MVP 2 out of the last 3 years after I drafted his replacement.Rodgers honestly did his former and current team dirtier than pre fun towel Watson or Lamar Jackson. I wonder if he is going to get bashed at the same level...
Perhaps they still like Zach but think he needs more time - and bringing in a future HOFer to sit behind might be just what the doctor ordered.I would take a QB that has won MVP 2 out of the last 3 years after I drafted his replacement.
Zach Wilson has less trade value than Trey Lance does. Because Wilson has much more bad tape. It would also cost the Jets more to trade Wilson before the draft than to keep him. Maybe something other than Rodger's arrogance will rub off on Wilson?Perhaps they still like Zach but think he needs more time
Still hating on greatness?Zach Wilson has less trade value than Trey Lance does. Because Wilson has much more bad tape. It would also cost the Jets more to trade Wilson before the draft than to keep him. Maybe something other than Rodger's arrogance will rub off on Wilson?
Greatness and arrogance are not mutually exclusive. Example, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady.Still hating on greatness?
It worked for Rodgers. GB is about to find out if it worked with Love. Wilson has a ton of talent. The difference is GB started the path with Rodgers and Love when they were rookies. They are going to have to pick up Wilson's 5th year option to gaurantee keeping him so they can find out if sitting behind Rodgers worked, or he will be a FA and someone else might.Perhaps they still like Zach but think he needs more time - and bringing in a future HOFer to sit behind might be just what the doctor ordered.
Worth a shot.
The one good thing is you can now buy Sunday Ticket as a standalone without have the YouTube TV service.As always, all about money........for the NFL.............not for the fan experience.................or the fan pocketbook.
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Judge’s decision reveals Amazon, Roku, Apple, ESPN were NFL Sunday Ticket suitors
- https://theathletic.com/4454248/202...-apple/?source=freedailyemail&campaign=601983
- Daniel Kaplan
- 4 min read
Before the NFL sold the rights for its popular out-of-market games package to Google’s YouTube, for $2.1 billion annually, Apple was widely viewed as the frontrunner before talks imploded. But while negotiations did break down with the tech giant, three other companies — Amazon, Roku and ESPN — made proposals, in addition to YouTube and Apple, according to a discovery ruling in a class-action lawsuit brought against the NFL over Sunday Ticket distribution.
The NFL also considered distributing the games itself, the ruling disclosed.
In a decision filed Tuesday, federal magistrate judge John McDermott wrote that the NFL had plenty of contenders for the service, which had been with DirecTV since its inception in 1994. The NFL was required under the lawsuit’s discovery terms to disclose all documents about Sunday Ticket once a final deal had been struck, which occurred on Dec. 22, 2022.
The NFL on Jan. 13 turned over 667 pages of documents, wrote Judge McDermott, including, “Proposals from third parties Google, Apple, Amazon, Roku and ESPN regarding the rights to Sunday Ticket package,” and “discussions both within the NFL and with third parties about the potential of NFL distributing the Sunday Ticket package itself.”
The disclosures came as part of the long-running antitrust class action brought by a group of bars and individuals and aimed at how the service could only be accessed through DirecTV, and now YouTube.
A federal judge on Feb. 7 certified two classes in the case, first filed in 2015, paving the way forward for the lawsuit. It is seeking $6 billion in damages for the alleged extra costs paid due to the exclusivity of Sunday Ticket on one distribution platform.
The plaintiffs after the January discovery release had asked for the NFL to turn over more documents, though the magistrate judge largely declined. He did require the NFL to rerun searches of its electronic records to capture documents with the names of the companies that submitted proposals. The searches are limited to three executives: commissioner Roger Goodell, chief media and business officer Brian Rolapp, and Hans Schroeder, chief operating officer of NFL Media.
The plaintiffs are particularly interested in why the Apple talks failed.
“Plaintiffs also are concerned that there are few documents regarding the breakdown of negotiations between Apple and the NFL,” McDermott wrote. “Public reporting suggests the negotiations broke down because the NFL refused to let Apple distribute local games or offer Sunday Ticket at significantly lower prices. The NFL, however, argues that documents it has produced suggest numerous reasons why the negotiations failed. None of the reasons cited by (the) NFL and Apple contained any reference to Sunday Ticket package pricing.”
Apple has been subpoenaed as part of the lawsuit and turned over documents.
The plaintiff had also sought all correspondence between the NFL and CBS and Fox regarding Sunday Ticket. It’s been widely reported that the NFL’s broadcast contracts contain language requiring Sunday Ticket to be priced at a premium level so as not to poach viewers from broadcasts of Sunday afternoon games. Judge McDermott declined that request.
The cost for YouTube will be pricier than it was on DirecTV.
The magistrate judge’s decision wording describes the offerings from the technology and media companies as proposals, so it’s not clear whether they were formal bids (obviously in the case of Google it at least became one). Many of the companies were floated for years as possible buyers of the service, including Amazon and Disney’s ESPN, likely through its ESPN + streaming platform.
The NFL viewed Amazon and ESPN as existing partners but wanted to expand its media circles to new entrants. As a result, the league’s focus was on Apple for much of 2022 before redirecting to Google. Had the NFL decided to distribute Sunday Ticket itself, it likely would have been through its new streaming app, NFL +.
$185 million in total guarantees.Lamar 5 year 260 mil.
$185 million in total guarantees.
Wow - Skoronski is still on the board.
I bet he goes to NE.
I doubt it will help them in any way.
I was wondering about that. How will that work?The one good thing is you can now buy Sunday Ticket as a standalone without have the YouTube TV service.