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Lucky said:
So the league is not even looking into the "rugby scrum"? Someone's going to get hurt badly on this. Has to be removed from the game.
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How so? The 700 times the Eagles ran it, who got hurt?

Sounds like another nobody can defend it for now type whining so let's make a rule to ban it bullshit to me.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Now the NFL has voted to expand short-week Thursday Night Football games to involve 2 games (4 teams). Great decision for seeing significant increase in player injuries! But, of course, the NFL is focused on making the game safer for the players! :dontknowa
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I would've preferred to see the NFL kill Thursday Night games altogether. Also, I'm not a big fan of the late night game. I know.....,money, money, money!!!
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Now the NFL has voted to expand short-week Thursday Night Football games to involve 2 games (4 teams). Great decision for seeing significant increase in player injuries! But, of course, the NFL is focused on making the game safer for the players! :dontknowa
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Don't know why anyone would give a negative rep for posting this. 😲
 
TheRealJoker said:
I really liked him coming out. But the lack of length has been too much for him to become an upper echelon starter. I think he would be great at LG. Maybe the contracts given to Nelson and Lindstrom will encourage players like Williams to make the move inside.
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Jonah Williams is another in the long line of mediocre Bama o-line players. Them dudes can't even make it past their rookie contract it seems. Neal at least looks like a good run blocker, but most teams don't take a run blocker that high.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
That'e the only thing I could think of, but that's not how the negative rep is supposed to work.........it's for demonstrating a highly negative/disagreeable response to a poster's presentation of a personal opinion.
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I hear ya, but for many it's about the news not the poster
 
The NFL's greed with its disregard of anything other than MONEY. Goodell states "It [TNF] doesn’t show higher injury rate."
Their so-called NFL injury statistics have always been flawed/manipulated. The ones for TNF are no exception. Many injuries are not such that a player is forced to leave the game (the only thing fans usually see as evidence of injury). For example, injuries can occur on TNF, and not be truly clinically presenting/debilitating until days or weeks following the initial trauma. Minor injuries can also later become clinically significant after further future play, extends that injury.

Studies have shown that athletes require at least 3 days to recover from strenuous game play if concentrated "recovery" techniques are used and coaches are focused on maintaining those regimens................hold your breath. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday are purported by the NFL as the 3 days given for recovery following a Sunday game.............making the player ready for TNF.

What the NFL is not taking into account is that the 3 day recovery is for the average healthy player without any even minor injury sustained on Sunday. All the studies also admit to many variables to the 3 day recovery rule.................age, past injury history, games already played in a season (players in the 2nd half of a season, for many reasons, require more recovery time), weather conditions, altitude conditions, travel, etc. Even if there are no overtly acknowledged injuries to overcome, there is the important question of the effects on player performance and even coach/player preparation for a game plan (let's also not forget, this is another opportunity avoid the already sparse player contact practices altogether).............anyone that has ever followed TNF cannot help but appreciate the poor and sloppy and unenjoyable performances that occur not exceptionally, but as a rule.

The NFL is trying to do everything they can to discount players and destroy the quality of the game.

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NFL seems to be moving toward Tuesdays and Wednesdays (and maybe Fridays and Saturdays)
Posted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2023, 5:07 PM EDT


The NFL’s decision to compel teams to play up to two short-week games per year and its sudden progress toward allowing late-season Thursday games to be moved to Sunday, and vice-versa, carries with it a deeper message.

The expanded use of short weeks and the inclination to shuffle games from Thursdays to Sundays and Sundays to Thursdays suggests a not-too-distant future in which the NFL stages weekly games on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. And perhaps, eventually, on Fridays and Saturdays.

If the league continues to adhere to the notion that football played on short rest is no more dangerous than football played on normal rest, it’s just a matter of time before the league insists that there’s no impact on player health and safety by hopscotching the scheduling of games around the various days of the week.

“I think we have data that’s very clear,” Commissioner Roger Goodell told reporters at the league meetings, regarding playing on Sunday and then on Thursday. “It doesn’t show higher injury rate. But we recognize shorter weeks. We went through this in COVID, too. We had to have a lot of flexibility in those areas.”

The reference to COVID is the biggest clue that Tuesday and Wednesday football is coming, since the changes necessitated by the pandemic resulted in games being played on those two rarely-used days of the week.

If the league plans to hang its hat on the contention that only three days off between games isn’t a health and safety concern, then four and five days off between games isn’t a concern, either.

It will complicate the scheduling process for the NFL, but it will be worth it (in the league’s view) to pull games from the cluster of 1:00 p.m. ET kickoffs and move them into standalone prime-time windows that will gather millions of live viewers.

The NFL may not stop at Tuesday and Wednesday. Although the league’s broadcast antitrust exemption hinges on not televising games on Friday nights or Saturdays between Labor Day weekend and the middle of December, the very real question of whether the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 even encompasses the league’s pivot to streaming will eventually require a tweak to the law.

If it’s expanded to expressly include for-pay Internet-based broadcasts, why not slide away from the arguably outdated obsession with protecting high school and college football against NFL infringement?

The Friday night game could start at 9:00 p.m. ET, giving many high schools a chance to work around that window, if they so choose. Or if a high-school game is being played at a time when an NFL game is being televised, the folks attending the high-school game can watch the pro game on their phone.

For Saturdays, it would be one game and one game only, also played at night. College football all day. Pro football from 8:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. ET. And then a late-night West Coast college game after that to end the day.

College football might not appreciate it, but college football surely didn’t like it when the NFL took over Thursdays, which once upon a time featured meaningful NCAA contests.

As the NFL gets larger and more successful, it feels as if nothing will stop if from blasting through any and all arguments and impediments to doing whatever it wants. And if the NFL wants to stage a prime-time game every night of the week from Week One through Week 18, the NFL will.

Is that good for players? Is it good for in-stadium fans? The fact that the NFL shrugs at those concerns regarding the expansion to multiple Sunday-to-Thursday turnarounds and the looming adoption of Thursday night flexing already answers the question of whether the NFL cares about such matters.

Put simply, all that really matters to the league is prioritizing the people who watch games on TV or other devices, because those are the people who congregate in the millions to watch live NFL football. And those are the consumers who will fuel a reality in which each major network and streaming platform will pay a staggering price per year to purchase at least one night of each and every week of each and every season.
 
Another example of the NFL manipulating injury statistics. Over the years, it has been quite evident that games played on well-maintained grass were safer than those played on artificial turf. The NFL quietly and purposely ignored this. But after the 2021 season, the NFL came out of the woodwork emphasized, published and publicized that season's statistics which showed that less injuries occurred on artificial turf. The problem??................2021 was an obvious outlier. Now that 2022 have been reviewed, and the injuries have unquestionably been grossly associated with artificial surfaces. The NFL has once again has gone mum, going back in hiding from the facts. But the voice of the entity of those actually affected.........the players...........are finding a venue.

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J.C. Tretter: Injury data from 2022 season makes clear that grass fields are safer
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 1, 2023, 5:06 AM EDT


NFL owners glossed over the differences between grass and artificial playing surfaces at this week’s league meeting. But the NFL Players Association is renewing its call for grass fields.
In fact, NFLPA President J.C. Tretter says that the data from 2022 makes it clearer than ever that grass is safer than artificial turf.

“We got interesting data, I don’t think it’s been put out there, I think it will be out there in the coming weeks,” Tretter told Pat McAfee. “The data this past year show . . . there is a very large gap between the two surfaces. They quickly glanced over that at the league meetings and didn’t really dive into those details this past week, but there is a large difference between grass and turf. The players are very clear what they want.”
Tretter noted that multiple NFL stadiums that use artificial turf will install temporary grass fields when they host World Cup matches in 2026.

“When the World Cup comes to town, all these owners roll out the green carpet for all these soccer teams to play on grass at their stadiums, and then roll it back out to put the turf back down for their employees to play on,” Tretter said.

Tretter said that when the NFL briefly had an increase in grass injuries in 2021, owners used that increase in injuries on grass to suggest that grass was no safer than artificial turf. But Tretter said in 2022, the injury rates diverged, and the difference between injuries on artificial turf and on grass is as big as it has ever been.

“There’s a significant difference in injury rate on turf as on grass,” Tretter said.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The NFL's greed with its disregard of anything other than MONEY. Goodell states "It [TNF] doesn’t show higher injury rate."
Their so-called NFL injury statistics have always been flawed/manipulated. The ones for TNF are no exception. Many injuries are not such that a player is forced to leave the game (the only thing fans usually see as evidence of injury). For example, injuries can occur on TNF, and not be truly clinically presenting/debilitating until days or weeks following the initial trauma. Minor injuries can also later become clinically significant after further future play, extends that injury.

Studies have shown that athletes require at least 3 days to recover from strenuous game play if concentrated "recovery" techniques are used and coaches are focused on maintaining those regimens................hold your breath. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday are purported by the NFL as the 3 days given for recovery following a Sunday game.............making the player ready for TNF.

What the NFL is not taking into account is that the 3 day recovery is for the average healthy player without any even minor injury sustained on Sunday. All the studies also admit to many variables to the 3 day recovery rule.................age, past injury history, games already played in a season (players in the 2nd half of a season, for many reasons, require more recovery time), weather conditions, altitude conditions, travel, etc. Even if there are no overtly acknowledged injuries to overcome, there is the important question of the effects on player performance and even coach/player preparation for a game plan (let's also not forget, this is another opportunity avoid the already sparse player contact practices altogether).............anyone that has ever followed TNF cannot help but appreciate the poor and sloppy and unenjoyable performances that occur not exceptionally, but as a rule.

The NFL is trying to do everything they can to discount players and destroy the quality of the game.

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NFL seems to be moving toward Tuesdays and Wednesdays (and maybe Fridays and Saturdays)
Posted by Mike Florio on March 30, 2023, 5:07 PM EDT


The NFL’s decision to compel teams to play up to two short-week games per year and its sudden progress toward allowing late-season Thursday games to be moved to Sunday, and vice-versa, carries with it a deeper message.

The expanded use of short weeks and the inclination to shuffle games from Thursdays to Sundays and Sundays to Thursdays suggests a not-too-distant future in which the NFL stages weekly games on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. And perhaps, eventually, on Fridays and Saturdays.

If the league continues to adhere to the notion that football played on short rest is no more dangerous than football played on normal rest, it’s just a matter of time before the league insists that there’s no impact on player health and safety by hopscotching the scheduling of games around the various days of the week.

“I think we have data that’s very clear,” Commissioner Roger Goodell told reporters at the league meetings, regarding playing on Sunday and then on Thursday. “It doesn’t show higher injury rate. But we recognize shorter weeks. We went through this in COVID, too. We had to have a lot of flexibility in those areas.”

The reference to COVID is the biggest clue that Tuesday and Wednesday football is coming, since the changes necessitated by the pandemic resulted in games being played on those two rarely-used days of the week.

If the league plans to hang its hat on the contention that only three days off between games isn’t a health and safety concern, then four and five days off between games isn’t a concern, either.

It will complicate the scheduling process for the NFL, but it will be worth it (in the league’s view) to pull games from the cluster of 1:00 p.m. ET kickoffs and move them into standalone prime-time windows that will gather millions of live viewers.

The NFL may not stop at Tuesday and Wednesday. Although the league’s broadcast antitrust exemption hinges on not televising games on Friday nights or Saturdays between Labor Day weekend and the middle of December, the very real question of whether the Sports Broadcasting Act of 1961 even encompasses the league’s pivot to streaming will eventually require a tweak to the law.

If it’s expanded to expressly include for-pay Internet-based broadcasts, why not slide away from the arguably outdated obsession with protecting high school and college football against NFL infringement?

The Friday night game could start at 9:00 p.m. ET, giving many high schools a chance to work around that window, if they so choose. Or if a high-school game is being played at a time when an NFL game is being televised, the folks attending the high-school game can watch the pro game on their phone.

For Saturdays, it would be one game and one game only, also played at night. College football all day. Pro football from 8:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. ET. And then a late-night West Coast college game after that to end the day.

College football might not appreciate it, but college football surely didn’t like it when the NFL took over Thursdays, which once upon a time featured meaningful NCAA contests.

As the NFL gets larger and more successful, it feels as if nothing will stop if from blasting through any and all arguments and impediments to doing whatever it wants. And if the NFL wants to stage a prime-time game every night of the week from Week One through Week 18, the NFL will.

Is that good for players? Is it good for in-stadium fans? The fact that the NFL shrugs at those concerns regarding the expansion to multiple Sunday-to-Thursday turnarounds and the looming adoption of Thursday night flexing already answers the question of whether the NFL cares about such matters.

Put simply, all that really matters to the league is prioritizing the people who watch games on TV or other devices, because those are the people who congregate in the millions to watch live NFL football. And those are the consumers who will fuel a reality in which each major network and streaming platform will pay a staggering price per year to purchase at least one night of each and every week of each and every season.
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The key here is to give your starters a game off. It would be an especially good opportunity to give your backup qb some playing time.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Now the NFL has voted to expand short-week Thursday Night Football games to involve 2 games (4 teams). Great decision for seeing significant increase in player injuries! But, of course, the NFL is focused on making the game safer for the players! :dontknowa
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Should be possible to make those games after the bye week. That would be 12 days after their previous game & 11 days before their next game.
 
Tight ends are fired up to work with OB. QBs should be too. He’s responsible for TB12 and Gronk right?

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Patriots tight end Mike Gesicki is finally going to reunite with the now-Patriots offensive coordinator at the next level. "It’s exciting to finally be able to play for him and already having those relationships formed, so I’m excited,” Gesicki said, via
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Another example of the NFL manipulating injury statistics. Over the years, it has been quite evident that games played on well-maintained grass were safer than those played on artificial turf. The NFL quietly and purposely ignored this. But after the 2021 season, the NFL came out of the woodwork emphasized, published and publicized that season's statistics which showed that less injuries occurred on artificial turf. The problem??................2021 was an obvious outlier. Now that 2022 have been reviewed, and the injuries have unquestionably been grossly associated with artificial surfaces. The NFL has once again has gone mum, going back in hiding from the facts. But the voice of the entity of those actually affected.........the players...........are finding a venue.

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J.C. Tretter: Injury data from 2022 season makes clear that grass fields are safer
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 1, 2023, 5:06 AM EDT


NFL owners glossed over the differences between grass and artificial playing surfaces at this week’s league meeting. But the NFL Players Association is renewing its call for grass fields.
In fact, NFLPA President J.C. Tretter says that the data from 2022 makes it clearer than ever that grass is safer than artificial turf.

“We got interesting data, I don’t think it’s been put out there, I think it will be out there in the coming weeks,” Tretter told Pat McAfee. “The data this past year show . . . there is a very large gap between the two surfaces. They quickly glanced over that at the league meetings and didn’t really dive into those details this past week, but there is a large difference between grass and turf. The players are very clear what they want.”
Tretter noted that multiple NFL stadiums that use artificial turf will install temporary grass fields when they host World Cup matches in 2026.

“When the World Cup comes to town, all these owners roll out the green carpet for all these soccer teams to play on grass at their stadiums, and then roll it back out to put the turf back down for their employees to play on,” Tretter said.

Tretter said that when the NFL briefly had an increase in grass injuries in 2021, owners used that increase in injuries on grass to suggest that grass was no safer than artificial turf. But Tretter said in 2022, the injury rates diverged, and the difference between injuries on artificial turf and on grass is as big as it has ever been.

“There’s a significant difference in injury rate on turf as on grass,” Tretter said.
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Below is ESPN's data graph that the NFL is using to conclude that artificial turf is as safe as grass (in 2021). This data is based on only non-contact injuries, which is purported to isolate the surface alone as the purest factor causing lower extremity injuries. This assumption is not only grossly flawed, but entirely disingenuous by the NFL. A great proportion of contact lower extremity injuries are caused by feet sticking in artificial turf................it is a fact that cleat "grab" on grass is much more likely to "give" than to remain stuck.............a characteristic that has saved myriads of players from severe lower extremity injuries. But, NFL, let's just exclude all data of contact injuries which make up most lower extremities..................Great idea!!................NFL "honesty" hard at work!

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1590147175874715648
 
An example of big business trying to direct big business............

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Thursday night flex possibility sparked “spirited” debate among owners
Posted by Mike Florio on April 3, 2023, 1:17 PM EDT


The Commissioner needs only two more “yes” votes to deliver Thursday night flexing. He may need to flex every muscle he has to get there.

With 22 in favor of it (some of whom, as Peter King said on Friday’s PFT Live, are going along with it because they can tell the Commissioner really wants it), eight are opposed and two abstained.

The teams who opted to take no position were the Panthers and Broncos. Of the eight who voted no, four were (per King) the Giants, Jets, Bears, and Packers.

The discussion reportedly got interesting last week. Via Ben Fischer of Sports Business Journal, the debate among owners was “spirited.” Panthers owner David Tepper, via Fischer, asked league executives, “Is this in direct response to something Amazon said?”

Tepper didn’t get a direct answer.

Of course Amazon wants it. More broadly, the league wants it because streaming is the future. The league knows viewer habits must change, in order to get viewers who watch on TV to watch via streaming services.

The numbers for Amazon’s first foray, an average audience of 9.6 million, weren’t good enough. The league needs to do something to beef things up, to elevate the floor. To push the number back toward the 20 million or so who watched Thursday night games on Fox.

But flexing, in our view, isn’t the answer. As Giants co-owner John Mara said, it’s “abusive” to the paying customer. It’s also abusive to the players, even though the league believes that it can hang its hat on the cherry-picked notion that the raw number of injuries are no different between normal-rest games and short-week games.

It will make for an interesting several weeks. As Goodell and company try to get two of the 10 holdouts to “yes,” Mara and others could be trying to get some of the “yes” votes to change their minds.

It could stay “spirited.” It could get ugly. Feelings could be hurt. Egos could be bruised. Hopefully, in the end, the right thing for fans and players and the game will be done.

And maybe that’s what will happen. Really, with Mara calling the plan “abusive,” how can they proceed with it?
 
I thought expectations were high on the possible announcement of the sale of the Washington franchise during the league meeting week in Arizona but apparently nothing materialized on that front ?
 
Will NFL ask Mary Jo White to investigate the Cardinals?
Posted by Mike Florio on April 6, 2023, 3:50 PM EDT


The most logical explanation for the stubborn insistence of NFL owners to defend and protect Commanders owner Daniel Snyder comes from the strong possibility that they don’t want to create a standard that could then be applied to one or more them in the fire.

And it possibly wouldn’t take much to end up in the crosshairs. A disgruntled employee makes a credible allegation that gains some traction, and the next thing you know Mary Jo White is investigating the organization.


For the Commanders, multiple credible allegations of troubling workplace misconduct prompted the original investigation by Beth Wilkinson. A specific allegation against Snyder sparked the followup from White. Along the way, more allegations and evidence have come to light.

The investigator is never in position to find unrelated problems if there’s no investigation in the first place. And in the same way that many sweat out the possibility of a tax audit, NFL owners have no desire to be investigated generally, or specifically, by someone hired by the league to take a closer look at whether policies are being violated or rules are being broken.
For Snyder, claims of financial irregularities emerged only after the allegations of workplace misconduct gained traction.

That brings us to the Cardinals and owner Michael Bidwill. Will the league dispatch White to explore whether and to what extent the allegations of impermissible contact with former Cardinals G.M. Steve Keim are true? Or will evidence on the issue be pursued, developed, and submitted only by former Cardinals executive Terry McDonough in his arbitration claim?

McDonough’s grievance sweeps far more broadly than the burner-phone incident, alleging that Bidwill engaged in various forms of workplace misconduct. Specifically, McDonough accuses Bidwill of “curs[ing] and berat[ing] a young African American employee in a racially charged manner,” “creat[ing] an environment of fear for minority employees,” “reduc[ing] to tears two pregnant employees as a result of his abusive and bullying mistreatment,” and “halted a 2019 corporate cultural assessment of the Cardinals organization that was being conducted by an outside consulting firm after an expansive initial round of employee responses criticized the Cardinals’ woeful culture and placed most of the blame on Bidwill.”

At paragraph 13 of his demand for arbitration, McDonough’s lawyer writes this: “Bidwill’s widespread workplace misconduct is significantly worse than the misbehavior of former crosstown Phoenix Suns owner Robert Sarver. Last fall, the NBA suspended Sarver for one year and fined him $10 million after the NBA’s investigation found that Sarver had demeaned women, bullied employees and used racist language. Sarver ultimately was forced to sell the franchise.”

So will the NFL investigate Bidwill the way it investigated Snyder? It may depend on the evidence presented during the arbitration. Even then, situations like these need to reach a critical mass, a tipping point before the league will get an investigator involved.

McDonough definitely has tried to create that kind of groundswell. Maybe that’s why the team responded in such an aggressive and unnecessary way to McDonough’s claim. The Cardinals perhaps hope to paint McDonough as wholly untrustworthy in order to avoid enough questions being raised to get Mary Jo White dispatched to the desert.
 
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