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PapaL said:
I'm not 100% but I vaguely remember this suspension not being because of weed but because of alcohol. I don't think he can drink while being in the program either. I'll look it up later though.
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It was alcohol which drew his suspension. With his particular weed suspension, there was also specific wording re. alcohol prohibition due to his recent DUI. He failed an alcohol test after he had 4 drinks.............at first, he made the flimsy excuse that he was not aware that he could not drink on a plane flight after the last game, after which he could be tested for it.

Detail in this article.

Josh Gordon fires back at critics, explains failed test
 
After Adam Gase left the Bears to become the new head coach of the Dolphins, they promoted quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains to offensive coordinator in his place.

That left the team in need of a new position coach and the Bears filled that vacancy on Friday. The team announced that they have hired Dave Ragone to fill the position
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I want to see the Patriots versus Panthers in Super Bowl 50. But I have a strange feeling the Broncos and Cardinals will win today. And if that happens I have no choice but to become an Arizona fan in the Super Bowl.

To see Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips win the Super Bowl as head coach and defensive coordinator would make me feel bad because they were once here and leading a 12-4 record team!
 
HOU-TEX said:
Boy, I just can't get enough of Manning & Brady replays on NFLN.

Signed,

Nobody......EVER
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I watched it for 25 minutes or so. Channel flipping between some dating show called Baggage, hosted by Jerry Springer, on the Game Show Network. I just can't watch it for hours because it makes me feel upset that the Texans aren't lucky enough to find an elite quarterback.

I'm tired of seeing these big football games on conference championship weekend and the Houston Texans are never playing. We should be playing today!!!!

It's bad enough our ex coaching staff has their team playing today when it could have been us. When not long ago they were 11-1 here. 1st seed in AFC. Finished 12-4 that year. It took a late season collapse for us to blow the 1st seed. We were in a prime position to make a Super Bowl run if we had homefield and had stayed healthy.

As I get older I'm becoming all about the Houston Texans "ONLY" and less an NFL fan. All of these other teams having success makes me feel sick to my stomach. It really does. I especially hate fantasy football because I don't want to cheer for players on other teams.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I want to see the Patriots versus Panthers in Super Bowl 50. But I have a strange feeling the Broncos and Cardinals will win today. And if that happens I have no choice but to become an Arizona fan in the Super Bowl.

To see Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips win the Super Bowl as head coach and defensive coordinator would make me feel bad because they were once here and leading a 12-4 record team!
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Nothing I'd love to see more than a Houston & a Port Neches Groves native win the Super Bowl.
 
thunderkyss said:
Nothing I'd love to see more than a Houston & a Port Neches Groves native win the Super Bowl.
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That's true. But man, I have a lot of bitterness inside there.
But I should be more upset at Bob McNair and Rick Smith.

Also Super Bowl 51 next year is at NRG Stadium here in Houston.

2016 is the year for us to get that 1st seed in the AFC. Because then we'd have homefield advantage all the way throughout the entire playoffs. Believe!!!!
 
Ugh. 7-0 Broncos. Owen Daniels with a nice TD catch from Peyton Manning in the red zone. Remember when people thought Owen Daniels was washed up and a step too slow?

I hope the Patriots come back and win.

Otherwise our front office, yes you Rick Smith, even Bob Mcnair, would look foolish. We could have also signed Peyton Manning when he was a free agent that one off-season and he had interest in coming to Houston. When Bob McNair said he was flattered and understood Peyton Manning's interest in coming here, but he referenced Manning's injury concerns and said that Matt Schaub was our guy. That's why our owner is so blind to football success!!!! Doesn't take the risks that come with big rewards. And then he rewards Rick Smith for doing a pretty crappy job as the GM and blowing several second, third and fourth-round draft choices. If not for J.J. Watt this team wouldn't have even sniffed 9-7 the past two seasons. Drafting Watt is the only reason Rick Smith still has a job, IMO.

Seeing Peyton Manning, Owen Daniels, Gary Kubiak and Wade Phillips advance to Super Bowl 50 would make me upset. Just because the story didn't have to go this way.

I'll let it go but I can't help but think, "WHAT IF!"

Go Pats though! F the Broncos! I should be saying F Rick Smith and Bob McNair though. My bitterness and anger is a bit misguided but that's how I honestly feel right now.
 
Where are all of the Texans fans who said Owen Daniels was finished three seasons ago? He looks like a difference maker in the first half of today's AFC Championship game. I remember I was always pushing for him to stay. When Bill O'Brien first came to Houston the first player he met when walking into NRG Stadium was Owen Daniels. It's too bad O'Brien didn't see enough in him to keep him around.
 
JCTexan said:
Personally, it's hard for me to fault an owner for firing a coach that took his team to a 2-14 record.
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I'd have given them a free pass for that mess of a season coming off two straight years of 10-6 and 12-4. Not to mention the health of the team. Even our head coach missed a handful of games after suffering an in-game stroke walking to the locker room at halftime of that game against the Colts on Monday Night Football. A game we were leading 21-3 but somehow lost. We had many leads in games that season that we lost. Including out-playing a good Seahawks team and leading 20-3 in that game at halftime. That 2-14 season could have easily been 8 or 9 wins. IMO.

Everything just fell apart. It happens sometimes. One bad year is all it was. Why was none of the blame placed on the GM? Who continues to receive pay raises and is still here going into 2016 with a rumored promotion coming his way. Rick Smith throws everybody under the bus and continues to avoid any criticism. Well, besides from our fan base.

I just want to see the Houston Texans win a Super Bowl one day.
 
none of that makes any sense BoP.


& I don't anyone said OD was too old. They (we) said he was injury prone.
 
thunderkyss said:
none of that makes any sense BoP.
& I don't anyone said OD was too old. They (we) said he was injury prone.
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A lot of what I write is out of passion for the Houston Texans. I just want to see them win. I've seen every game the Texans have ever played. Since the 2002 Hall of Fame game against the New York Giants. Jeremy Shockey owned us in that game. I still remember him breaking six or seven tackles on one amazing catch and run. I haven't missed one game. Not even a preseason game in their now 14-year history.

But I'm at that point where I've had enough of it already. I may not watch the Houston Texans play for the first time in 2016. Just because of some of the same mistakes our owner and general manager continue to make. I just feel like I've put in a lot of time and effort into this team just to reach this point of wondering if it was all worth it.
 
JCTexan said:
Personally, it's hard for me to fault an owner for firing a coach that took his team to a 2-14 record.
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That was our Civil War. Who really knows how bad it really got.

It's plausible that the rumors are true & Kubiak thought it was time to move on from Schaub but Smith extended him. So Kubiak kept him in the game to prove a point.

I can see McNair firing Kubiak for being obtuse about the whole situation. Including putting Schaub back in after benching Case.

McNair wants the HC & GM to work together. If the GM is wrong about something, he expects the HC to take up the slack. The same way we don't need our defense blaming the offense for losing games.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I'd have given them a free pass for that mess of a season coming off two straight years of 10-6 and 12-4. Not to mention the health of the team. Even our head coach missed a handful of games after suffering an in-game stroke walking to the locker room at halftime of that game against the Colts on Monday Night Football. A game we were leading 21-3 but somehow lost. We had many leads in games that season that we lost. Including out-playing a good Seahawks team and leading 20-3 in that game at halftime. That 2-14 season could have easily been 8 or 9 wins. IMO.

Everything just fell apart. It happens sometimes. One bad year is all it was. Why was none of the blame placed on the GM? Who continues to receive pay raises and is still here going into 2016 with a rumored promotion coming his way. Rick Smith throws everybody under the bus and continues to avoid any criticism. Well, besides from our fan base.

I just want to see the Houston Texans win a Super Bowl one day.
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It wasn't Rick Smith that lost the locker room. The team quit playing for Kubiak. At that point, he had to go
 
infantrycak said:
And what decision was that? There's usually one. Something that struck the locker room as wrong.
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I'm not sure, but I think sticking with Schaub after his record setting performances. That was a very strange season. Not sure it was even a decision on any part. Perhaps they just gave up on the season. I don't think he should have been fired, I think the team would have regrouped the following year.
 
JB said:
I'm not sure, but I think sticking with Schaub after his record setting performances. That was a very strange season. Not sure it was even a decision on any part. Perhaps they just gave up on the season. I don't think he should have been fired, I think the team would have regrouped the following year.
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Not sure either. The D quit more than the O that season.
 
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I think whatever happened, started during the bye week the previous year. While they still played pretty good, there was something different, nothing to put my finger on, just different. I though maybe Wade and Gary had a falling out? But now that seems doubtful after they are together again in Denver.
 
The issues IMO boiled down to 4 things (there were closer to a million, but these were the bigguns). Rick Smith - as Kubiak's 'yes man' he was fine, but along the way he became McNair's 'godfather' and started doing things and adding pieces that McNair wanted. Kubiak's like Elway in that he's been in the system for decades and knows what to look for but his pool of talent and coachable players began to dry up because Smith doesn't know what he's doing or who to listen to. Bob McNair - all of a sudden he's got a team on the rise and it went straight to his head, he began putting the brand ahead of the team by jumping in front of the camera, bypassing the chain of command with the players, and allowing his players to get away with more promoting than was necessary (anybody think a coach approved letter jackets?). Turnovers - s**t happens and it happened to us on both ends. Turnovers are unpredictable, Schaub turning into pick 6 machine combined with Wade's career low in takeaways and all of those winning close games suddenly come up short. Finally ...

Ed Reed - the whole of why and how things were about to fail. Smith didn't do his job (or due diligence regarding injury), he just said yessir to McNair who wanted to bring in Reed without even consulting the coaches I hear. McNair thinks he's got the formula, telling the players that they need to listen to Reed because he's got the experience they need, directly undermining the coaches. It's apparent in preseason that Reed's not healthy and already causing a rift. And then once things start poorly, he becomes full blown locker room cancer, missing tackles and a hole in the defense that makes getting takeaways infinitely more difficult. Kubiak didn't lose the locker room, the owner bought it from him - and fired him because of it.
 
This explains why the Patriots fired the OL coach so quickly after the game. His center was giving away the snap count and no one on their sideline noticed it.
NE Center Bryan Stork Was Tipping The Snap versus Denver; LINK

Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware, and Derek Wolfe terrorized the Patriots offensive line all game long, putting Tom Brady on the run and on the ground. The quarterback was knocked down an astonishing 20 times: seven by Ware, four by Miller, and four by Wolfe. Even more impressive was that, according to Pro Football Focus, twelve of those hits occurred with the Broncos rushing only four defenders.

After reviewing the tape, center Bryan Stork stood out. Not for his blocking struggles, but because on nearly every snap Stork was tipping the snap by bobbing his head. Stork’s head bobbing snaps happened with Brady lined up under center and in the shotgun. Stork tipping the snap allowed the Broncos rushers to get perfect jumps, another advantage over their out-matched opponents.
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Vince keeps his job, though, as .......not sure. Player mentor/development? Cool. Texas players need a guy like Vince to make it rain.
 
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Vontaze Burfict has lost his appeal of his 3 game suspension.......he will serve the second-longest suspension in NFL history for an on-field action. Hainesworth got nailed for 5.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I'd say pretty decent gesture by the owner as their 2016 average attendance was 66,186 in a stadium (First Energy) seating 67,431.
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They've been 4th in the division 11 times during the existence of the Texans. Playoffs once - 2002. No wins. One 10-6 but missed the playoffs. Those are some patient fans.
 
A report on Thursday morning had the Jaguars and quarterback Chad Henne closing in on a dealthat would keep Henne in Jacksonville and off the open market.

They were apparently very close to agreement. The Jaguars announced Thursday that Henne will remain with the team.

The team didn’t announce any terms of the deal, but both NFL Media and the Florida Times-Union report that it is a two-year, $8 million pact with additional money available through incentives. That’s pretty much the same deal that Henne played under during his first two years in Jacksonville.
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With the Rams releasing defensive end Chris Long, is he a possibility for the Texans to sign on the bargain binge? He's been on the decline and battling injuries the past few years but he was once pretty damn good with a high motor. 2011, 2012 and 2013. He played in all 16 games all three seasons and had 13, 11.5 and 8.5 sacks.

He's like what, 30 years old or so? He could still have another big year or two inside him. Playing with J.J. Watt could be ideal for him. I'm interested for the right price. The Rams were thought to have one of the best defenses in the league not too long ago. Chris Long was a big part of their defensive success.

And don't tell me he doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme. The man can play some football.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
With the Rams releasing defensive end Chris Long, is he a possibility for the Texans to sign on the bargain binge? He's been on the decline and battling injuries the past few years but he was once pretty damn good with a high motor. 2011, 2012 and 2013. He played in all 16 games all three seasons and had 13, 11.5 and 8.5 sacks.

He's like what, 30 years old or so? He could still have another big year or two inside him. Playing with J.J. Watt could be ideal for him. I'm interested for the right price. The Rams were thought to have one of the best defenses in the league not too long ago. Chris Long was a big part of their defensive success.

And don't tell me he doesn't fit a 3-4 scheme. The man can play some football.
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He's not a 3-4 DE imo... where would you play him?
 
JB said:
He's not a 3-4 DE imo... where would you play him?
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I'd find room for him on our defense. 3-4 scheme or not.
If push came to shove I'd play him over Jared Crick.
He could be a high-reward, low-risk sign. Good value there.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/19/chris-long-i-was-s-t-the-last-two-years/

“Bottom line, this is a production business,” Long wrote on his Twitter page. “No excuses. The last two years have been s–t.”

Long wrote that he enjoyed his experience with the Rams and was proud of his accomplishments before the last two years. He said he was not surprised he was released and looks forward to proving he can still play.

I love his no-nonsense attitude. He sucked the past two years and admitted it. If this guy is healthy and brings that intensity back he could be a nice signing for a team. You are talking about a talented player with a lot to prove going into 2016. He could be a good investment on a two or three-year deal.

Just a few years ago there was a list of defensive team leaders that I read from SportingNews. Guys you can anchor a defense around. Chris Long's name was near the top of every list. Sprinkled in with the J.J. Watts, Justin Houstons and Von Millers of this league.

Is Chris Long really done at 30 years old? I find that hard to believe.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I'd find room for him on our defense. 3-4 scheme or not.
If push came to shove I'd play him over Jared Crick.
He could be a high-reward, low-risk sign. Good value there.
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Value would be dependent on what it would take to sign him. I don't believe he would consider a 3-4 team, but it's your dream so go ahead with it. Imo he's too light to play DE in a Crennel 3-4. I look for him to sign with someone like Oakland... opposite of Mack he might look pretty good
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I'd find room for him on our defense. 3-4 scheme or not.
If push came to shove I'd play him over Jared Crick.
He could be a high-reward, low-risk sign. Good value there.
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Do you really think that's just a plug-and-play thing? Long hasn't been asked to line up right on top of a tackle and penetrate or stack without outside leverage. He's also had an under tackle to play two-man schemes with where now the roles would be reversed and he'd be inside an EDGE here. It's really quite different. And of course he's a bit light in his arse for a typical 3-4 DE.

I think you're underestimating what a switch this would be for a guy who's not ideal for the position and not a spring chicken in the game.
 
I would bring in the talent first and foremost. And then allow the coaches to fit them into our schemes. It's that type of attitude that has hurt the Texans in the past. We pass on potentially good players because they don't fit our schemes.

But you're right, Chris Long is a veteran and it would be a lot to ask of him to change what he's been used to for a long time. It would be a different story if he were a young guy two or three years in the league.

I think Christian Covington, and Jadeveon Clowney for that matter, would be better suited for a 4-3 defense but they're both young enough to develop in our 3-4 defense and have been doing so when healthy.

I sort of wish we could move back to a 4-3 defense. But that's not likely to happen with Romeo Crennel here for another few years and Mike Vrabel taking over, one would guess, once he retires.

Although we do play four-man fronts quite a bit but it's true what you say. I would just hate to see Chris Long sign somewhere and have a lot of success. He's only 30 years old. He could be really good for another two, three or four years. I still think he has a lot of good football left in him.

He could be had for a bargain singing I think. He wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.
 
JB said:
I look for him to sign with someone like Oakland... opposite of Mack he might look pretty good
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Jeez, that would be scary. Especially if he gets back to playing like he did in 2011-2012-2013. Like I said, he still has a lot of good football left in him. He's 30 and wants to prove he's not a shi^ player, as he said himself, the past two seasons.
 
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