It must have been somewhat hurting before the practice with that sleeve on it
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CloakNNNdagger
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If it were an Achilles rupture, he would not have been able to plantar flex his foot. It does look like a calf tear. Most likely a grade II. He is unlikely to be seen the field anytime soon except on Madden. This is an injury he also will likely need to worry about recurring later in the season.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Culley feeling good right now.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
It’s not a training camp without significant injuries to marquee players:
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Jalen Ramsey Undergoing Meniscus Surgery, Could Be Back In December
Update: Ian Rapoport reports that Jalen Ramsey is likely to require a full meniscus repair, which would mean a December return if all goes well. They will still need to wait until the surgery is
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He's certainly happy Payton didn't take the Texans job..
ArmyBengal
Retired Army Medical NCO
When I got the notification yesterday with a headline of "Burrow carted off the practice field", I dang near threw up.
I was immediately scrambling to find a video and see what the heck happened.
As you can imagine, this is all you hear about up this way today and it seems most people are more chilled this morning.
However, as already mentioned the thought of reoccurrence during the season is concerning.
My dude is tough though, so hoping for a speedy recovery and we continue to get after it.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Irsay: Colts won't trade Taylor despite request
Colts running back Jonathan Taylor is awaiting a decision from the team after requesting a trade earlier this week, a source said, but owner Jim Irsay told ESPN it is "a certainty" that a trade will not happen.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Texansballer74
The Marine
Irsay: Colts won't trade Taylor despite request
Colts running back Jonathan Taylor is awaiting a decision from the team after requesting a trade earlier this week, a source said, but owner Jim Irsay told ESPN it is "a certainty" that a trade will not happen.
Colts owner Jim Irsay, when asked later Saturday about the trade request, told ESPN the team would not trade Taylor.
"We will not trade Jonathan Taylor," Irsay said. "That is a certainty. Not now or not in October."
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
Source: Vikes, Hunter end conflict with new deal
After a contract conflict that extended into training camp, the Vikings and pass-rusher Danielle Hunter have agreed to a new one-year contract that can be worth up to $20 million, a source confirmed to ESPN.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Good for Gore and the 49ers:
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Frank Gore Joins 49ers' Front Office
Retired running back Frank Gore has joined the 49ers' front office. Gore recently posted an Instagram picture of himself signing …
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Rams RB Michel retires from NFL after 5 seasons
Sony Michel, who won Super Bowl titles with the Patriots and the Rams, has decided to retire after a five-year career in the NFL.
Irsay: Colts won't trade Taylor despite request
Colts running back Jonathan Taylor is awaiting a decision from the team after requesting a trade earlier this week, a source said, but owner Jim Irsay told ESPN it is "a certainty" that a trade will not happen.www.espn.com
Colts owner Jim Irsay, when asked later Saturday about the trade request, told ESPN the team would not trade Taylor.
"We will not trade Jonathan Taylor," Irsay said. "That is a certainty. Not now or not in October."
Boris
All Pro
Irsay: Colts won't trade Taylor despite request
Colts running back Jonathan Taylor is awaiting a decision from the team after requesting a trade earlier this week, a source said, but owner Jim Irsay told ESPN it is "a certainty" that a trade will not happen.
Colts owner Jim Irsay, when asked later Saturday about the trade request, told ESPN the team would not trade Taylor.
"We will not trade Jonathan Taylor," Irsay said. "That is a certainty. Not now or not in October."
Source: Colts mull NFI list for Taylor (back pain)
RB Jonathan Taylor reported back pain during his pre-training camp physical that was deemed to be from an injury that was not sustained while playing for the Colts, a source told ESPN.
Messy...
I'm really enjoying this camp season.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Source: Colts mull NFI list for Taylor (back pain)
RB Jonathan Taylor reported back pain during his pre-training camp physical that was deemed to be from an injury that was not sustained while playing for the Colts, a source told ESPN.
Messy...
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I'm really enjoying this camp season.
They gave Luck money as he was walking out the door. And it wasn’t a few million.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Division champs again!
The Browns got so high because a portion of their fan base revolted against DW signing.
Not sure about the Cowboys…
Just think, all those "Oilers fan" in Tennessee don't have the slightest clue what this is about.
They can wrap themselves in Oilers carcasses all day long, but they will NEVER be true Oilers fans.
Texansballer74
The Marine
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
We're #8! Go us!
Dejaview
Wahoo Sabi
we We’re way out in front as #1 until they read this MB. They may have read my post above.
Not only do they not know, they would not care if they did know.
Big dummy. If he had Stroud’s agent he’d have known not to mention back injury until after participating in mandatory team activities.Source: Colts mull NFI list for Taylor (back pain)
RB Jonathan Taylor reported back pain during his pre-training camp physical that was deemed to be from an injury that was not sustained while playing for the Colts, a source told ESPN.
Messy...
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I'm really enjoying this camp season.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
The drama is he didn’t say anything about the back to anyone. It magically appeared from “sources”.
Let them celebrate Houston's football history. It's like Oilers cosplay. lol
It's like an ex-wife posting all the great vacation pictures she took with you on Facebook while married to some other poor fool.
Texansballer74
The Marine
NFL expands sexual assault policy, penalties in wake of Deshaun Watson’s suspension
The NFL’s personal conduct policy now includes sexual assault “involving threats or coercion,” and allows for more serious penalties to be handed down by investigators.
NFL expands sexual assault policy, penalties in wake of Deshaun Watson’s suspension
The NFL’s personal conduct policy now includes sexual assault “involving threats or coercion,” and allows for more serious penalties to be handed down by investigators.sports.yahoo.com
The NFL could really lean into this for marketing purposes.
"It might have taken decades to implement, but we finally act like we care about our female customers."
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
Yup it's messy.The drama is he didn’t say anything about the back to anyone. It magically appeared from “sources”.
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
If the Redskins wanted to potentially appease all involved.....simply remove the likeness of "White Calf" from the logo and return to the "R". This could sway all involved to giving the name back to Washington's new owners.
Combine these helmets for one unified look:
Burgundy Helmets
Gold Facemask
2- White Stripes / 1- Gold Stripe
LOGO
Gold Ring
White Base
Burgundy "R"
White/Gold Feather
Keep the R and rename them “Rebels”. Problem solved. lol
ArmyBengal
Retired Army Medical NCO
Not being a Washington fan and not really giving too much thought to their name, I can't see them going back to the "Redskins" name.
I'm not a person who gets offended by almost anything, but that name just doesn't seem like a real positive to me.
I suppose it's just the whole "skins" thing that rubs, but at the end of the day, I wouldn't argue about it either.
An insult I heard that struck me funny (odd, not haha) was when I worked in Sioux Falls, SD and had a local Native American tell me her parents called her an "Apple" for wanting to join the Military. I just looked at her perplexed and she explained, "Red on the outside, white on the inside". I was like, holy crap that's harsh.
I'm not a person who gets offended by almost anything, but that name just doesn't seem like a real positive to me.
I suppose it's just the whole "skins" thing that rubs, but at the end of the day, I wouldn't argue about it either.
An insult I heard that struck me funny (odd, not haha) was when I worked in Sioux Falls, SD and had a local Native American tell me her parents called her an "Apple" for wanting to join the Military. I just looked at her perplexed and she explained, "Red on the outside, white on the inside". I was like, holy crap that's harsh.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Not a good enough player to get away with that mess:
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
I'm watching the Browns and Jets. What is not surprising, is after watching the XFL and USFL for the past five months, how much more of a polished product an NFL team right out of training camp playing their backups looks than the best of the minor leagues. Can't wait for the Texans next week.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Get Dak out of there. lol
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
NFL’s new equity rule could be a clear collusion/antirust violation
On the surface, the NFL’s new ban on owners giving equity to players and employees falls within the broad range of things the league can do, if it wants. Whether this specific exercise of oligarch prerogative complies with all applicable laws remains to be seen.
The no-equity rule could invite two specific types of legal challenge. The NFL Players Association could argue that the rule
amounts to collusion per se. Any non-players (or teams) separately could argue that the rule violates the antitrust laws.
The rule was created to protect owners from themselves, and then to protect other owners. As explained by Ben Fischer of Sports Business Journal, “the finance committee and NFL lawyers were moved by an expectation that employees and candidates -- including players -- will soon start to ask for equity more often, particularly in light of the practice emerging in other leagues.” By crafting a rule preventing any owner from giving equity to players or other employees, the league avoids “an arms race.”
As to the NFLPA, the rights and obligations of the parties appear in the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Nothing in the CBA prohibits a team from giving equity to a player, as long as the value of the equity is properly reflected within the salary cap. (Indeed, there would be no need for a rule preventing players from receiving equity if the CBA already prevented it.)
By unilaterally taking the equity option off the table at a time when Aaron Rodgers was trying to get equity from the Jets and USC quarterback Caleb Williams had been making noise about wanting a piece of the team that drafts him, the NFL has changed the rules without bargaining with the union. Also, this 32-team agreement to prevent equity transfers to players in defiance of the CBA becomes collusion.
Last week, we asked the NFLPA for its reaction to this rule. The union, which has basically slipped into a P.R. coma since the election of new executive director Lloyd Howell, has not responded.
As to non-players, the antitrust laws become relevant. The NFL consists of 32 independent businesses. Why should some of them be able to tell others how to run their businesses? This includes telling them how to distribute ownership in their businesses. It might be a bad business decision to, for example, give a coach one percent of the team in order to hire him, but that’s a business decision each owner should be allowed to make.
There is no salary cap for coaches. Absent a union, a cap would be a clear and obvious antitrust violation. The no-equity rule is a less obvious antitrust violation, but it seems to be an antitrust violation nonetheless.
The league apparently is willing to take its chances in court. There’s too much at stake, given the dramatic ongoing increases in the values of teams. Once the equity bridge is crossed, players and other employees have a chance to truly level the playing field with owners, participating in the generational appreciation of the franchise asset that continues long after a playing or coaching career ends.
Will someone sue? It’s in the DNA of Raiders owner Mark Davis, whose plan to both hire and to give equity to Tom Brady has been stymied by this new rule.
Decades ago, Al Davis sued the league for antitrust regarding the team’s move to L.A. Maybe Mark, just maybe, will take a page from his father’s legal playbook.
- By Mike Florio
- Published August 4, 2023 10:28 AM
On the surface, the NFL’s new ban on owners giving equity to players and employees falls within the broad range of things the league can do, if it wants. Whether this specific exercise of oligarch prerogative complies with all applicable laws remains to be seen.
The no-equity rule could invite two specific types of legal challenge. The NFL Players Association could argue that the rule
amounts to collusion per se. Any non-players (or teams) separately could argue that the rule violates the antitrust laws.
The rule was created to protect owners from themselves, and then to protect other owners. As explained by Ben Fischer of Sports Business Journal, “the finance committee and NFL lawyers were moved by an expectation that employees and candidates -- including players -- will soon start to ask for equity more often, particularly in light of the practice emerging in other leagues.” By crafting a rule preventing any owner from giving equity to players or other employees, the league avoids “an arms race.”
As to the NFLPA, the rights and obligations of the parties appear in the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Nothing in the CBA prohibits a team from giving equity to a player, as long as the value of the equity is properly reflected within the salary cap. (Indeed, there would be no need for a rule preventing players from receiving equity if the CBA already prevented it.)
By unilaterally taking the equity option off the table at a time when Aaron Rodgers was trying to get equity from the Jets and USC quarterback Caleb Williams had been making noise about wanting a piece of the team that drafts him, the NFL has changed the rules without bargaining with the union. Also, this 32-team agreement to prevent equity transfers to players in defiance of the CBA becomes collusion.
Last week, we asked the NFLPA for its reaction to this rule. The union, which has basically slipped into a P.R. coma since the election of new executive director Lloyd Howell, has not responded.
As to non-players, the antitrust laws become relevant. The NFL consists of 32 independent businesses. Why should some of them be able to tell others how to run their businesses? This includes telling them how to distribute ownership in their businesses. It might be a bad business decision to, for example, give a coach one percent of the team in order to hire him, but that’s a business decision each owner should be allowed to make.
There is no salary cap for coaches. Absent a union, a cap would be a clear and obvious antitrust violation. The no-equity rule is a less obvious antitrust violation, but it seems to be an antitrust violation nonetheless.
The league apparently is willing to take its chances in court. There’s too much at stake, given the dramatic ongoing increases in the values of teams. Once the equity bridge is crossed, players and other employees have a chance to truly level the playing field with owners, participating in the generational appreciation of the franchise asset that continues long after a playing or coaching career ends.
Will someone sue? It’s in the DNA of Raiders owner Mark Davis, whose plan to both hire and to give equity to Tom Brady has been stymied by this new rule.
Decades ago, Al Davis sued the league for antitrust regarding the team’s move to L.A. Maybe Mark, just maybe, will take a page from his father’s legal playbook.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
The NFL is again allowiing the emergency quarterback rule. It will require the team to have 3 quarterbacks on its 53-man roster. Last year, only 12 teams took part in the offer.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Josh Harris, the new majority owner of the Commanders is seriously considering reinstating the teams old name which they held for almost 90 years.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Marlon Mack has signed with the Cardinals.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Because some (like me) are still confused with how this works, the following is from the NFL's site on the QB rule they passed earlier this year in the spring meetings.
Full language of the updated bylaw:
One hour and 30 minutes prior to kickoff, each club is required to establish its Active List for the game by notifying the Referee of the players on its Inactive List for that game. Each club may also designate one emergency third quarterback from its 53-player Active/Inactive List (i.e., elevated players are not eligible for designation) who will be eligible to be activated during the game, if the club's first two quarterbacks on its game day Active List are not able to participate in the game due to injury or disqualification (activation cannot be a result of a head coach's in-game decision to remove a player from the game due to performance or conduct). If either of the injured quarterbacks is cleared by the medical staff to return to play, the emergency third quarterback must be removed from the game and is not permitted to continue to play quarterback or any other position, but is eligible to return to the game to play quarterback if another emergency third quarterback situation arises.
A club is not eligible to use these procedures if it carries three quarterbacks on its game day Active List [47- or 48-players in 2023].
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Slap on the wrist:
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Seahawks WR D'Wayne Eskridge & Chiefs DL Charles Omenihu Suspended Six Games
The NFL announced Friday that Chiefs DL Charles Omenihu and Seahawks WR D'Wayne Eskridge have been suspended for the first six games of the 2023 season for violations of the personal conduct policy. Eskridge, 26,
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
280 lb Omenihu..............knocked around his girlfriend..............Seahawks WR D'Wayne Eskridge & Chiefs DL Charles Omenihu Suspended Six Games
The NFL announced Friday that Chiefs DL Charles Omenihu and Seahawks WR D'Wayne Eskridge have been suspended for the first six games of the 2023 season for violations of the personal conduct policy. Eskridge, 26,
