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Moulds Trade Official

THEFUTURE said:
If anything, offer up our 5th, and throw in another pick from next year. I am hoping our draft position isn't as good as it is this year, so another pick in the late rounds of next year won't hurt us to much



If they are holding out for our 4th, I still say offer our 5th and swap our 4th with theirs.
We'd only give up a 5th and move down 7 spots in the 4th. Sounds like a good compromise to me.
 
the wonger need food said:
Someone from 790 had a short interview with Moulds. He's been in town for a little while.

Thanks vey much for the update. I'm sure the trade is being finallized as we speak.
 
he says


Houston is a team on the rise ..... he's a Southern boy (his words not mine) .... impressions of Carr are intelligent, can be good if given time .... that's it, the interview was like 4 questions long
 
Not wanting to pee on your bonfire, but he'd be a moron of TO proportions to slag off the quarterback of a team he was about to sign for. He was hardly going to say, "Yeah, I don't like David Carr. He's as dumb as a sack of rocks, he can't throw worth a damn and his mum's ugly. Plus, she's also his half-sister, and that's just whack, man. I hear he had long hair, too, and I really hate those long-haired muff-dodgers."

In fact, even TO would probably wait for at least a year or so after signing before he said that. In rap.
 
Mr Shush said:
Not wanting to pee on your bonfire, but he'd be a moron of TO proportions to slag off the quarterback of a team he was about to sign for. He was hardly going to say, "Yeah, I don't like David Carr. He's as dumb as a sack of rocks, he can't throw worth a damn and his mum's ugly. Plus, she's also his half-sister, and that's just whack, man. I hear he had long hair, too, and I really hate those long-haired muff-dodgers."

In fact, even TO would probably wait for at least a year or so after signing before he said that. In rap.

However he did not have to reference Carr at all there are plenty of excuses he could have used. He has been sold on Carr by Kubiak. I believe it was word for word from an earlier interview. He is coming for the money and hopefully the team will become a good team while he is here.
 
Oh, don't get me wrong - I very much doubt he'd be coming here if he thought Carr stank. I just don't think it's ever worth taking opinions expressed by a sports person (or any public figure) in interview very seriously, especially not opinions about fellow members of their profession.
 
Dalati reports on the ticker that Moulds picked Houston because it's closer to home. He said the trade won't be announced until tomorrow.

Thanks Moulds Mom!
 
Texans34Life said:
Dalati reports on the ticker that Moulds picked Houston because it's closer to home. He said the trade won't be announced until tomorrow.

Thanks Moulds Mom!
Hopefully it wil slpie out tonite. Then we can watch the :astros: and get Moulds in one night. PARTY!!!:sbad: :banana: :whoohoo:
 
after this thread is finished and everything is said and done i'm going to take a time off off this message board. I mean I've read more in this thread than I ever did at school. The post count quantum leaps my total posts. At least i'll be in it.:redtowel:
 
Article from nfl.com going over what has happened today
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9355639

EYES ON TEXAS

Very quietly this offseason, the Texans have upgraded their offense.

And they're not done yet.

Buffalo wide receiver Eric Moulds spent today visiting with Houston officials, undergoing a physical and laying the groundwork for the Texans to complete a trade with the Bills.

Eric Moulds could be the next addition to Houston's improved offense.
Eric Moulds could be the next addition to Houston's improved offense.
All that remains right now is the Texans working out a trade package with the Bills, which could happen anytime soon.

Adding Moulds would be the final piece to an impressive offseason in which the Texans have signed Flanagan, fullback Jameel Cook, wide receiver Ken Walter and tight end Jeb Putzier. And they're expected to draft Reggie Bush.
 
billsfan1111 said:
HUH :brickwall r u kidding me i said with all our players right now under contract we are 9 mill under and no i wasnt wrong do you guys there in houston have a prob reading lol man oh man :ok: :spy:

It's obvious your the one with the reading problem because I'm from Illinois :rolleyes:
 
I think I might be the only one on this board who hasn't posted in this thread yet. The Bills need to stop fronting and just take their fourth/fifth rounder.
 
F-minus67 said:
I was just wondering, has there been any progress for the past 3 or 4 days?

The only things that have happened are that we brought in Moulds today to take his physical and so on like it says in the article but all weekend we didn't make any progress. We are probably talking with the Bills right now.
 
Conceivably Moulds is as important or more important than the 1st pick of the draft. Oh my, some of you are going to say. Yes, that's why I have been anxious and worried about what has been taking place. He, not bush, will free up AJ to the greatest extent. We are so close to having an awesome offense.

If suddenly BJ comes along that would be icing on the cake. Perhaps Wand suddenly becoming a force on the line without having to draft someone else would be another blessing. There are a number of possibilites, but I would say except for the 1st pick, the rest of the picks will probably favor the defensive side of the ball.
 
Update from kffl

Texans | Moulds visits
Mon, 3 Apr 2006 17:06:59 -0700

Adam Schefter, of NFL.com, reports Buffalo Bills WR Eric Moulds visited the Houston Texans Monday, April 3, and underwent a physical. The Texans have worked out a contract with Moulds, but still need to work out a trade package with the Bills to complete a deal.
 
TexanFan881 said:
Update from kffl
Actually that's not an update at all. It's a summary of the same article you just posted a few minutes ago. This is beyond ridiculous. Just wait until the announcement. There are no bits and pieces that will come out before the actual announcement.

As far as kffl - that's what they do. They are an information clearinghouse - one stop shopping which makes it nice to go to one site for a quick update on what's going on around the league - kind of like redzone. But they provide nothing original when it comes to these things and for the most part, just re-post stuff that's already out there with their own headline and summary.
 
I would be willing to give a 4th rounder for Moulds and maybe a 6th round pick. He helps our offense right from the get go. Now lets get some defense.:redtowel: :yahoo:
 
done88 said:
First of all the bills are 8+ mil under and he will count 10+ therefore 2 mil over. Second even if he sits and you do not cut or trade him you have to clear 2 mil in cap space. I can understand keeping him to prove a point but not when you have to cut other useful players. DOn't act like keeping Moulds is an option we all know it is not or management would not even be entertaing the trade.

Where are you getting this 2 million over???

We are 8 million under the cap with his current contract. If we do keep him, he gets a roster bonus of 2 million, taking us down to 6 million. Still far enough under to keep him with no worries.

Where are you getting your numbers? Are you just trying to somehow twist them to make it look like we have to release him??? I dont get it
 
WIDERIGHTXXV said:
Wrong, Moulds is on our cap number right now. With him, right now, we are 9 million under the cap. If Moulds is released OR traded it will save us (Buffalo) about 5 million dollars, bringing us to a grand total of 14 million under the cap. There is no way Buffalo will release him THIS year, he still has too much value. Other teams were looking until it appeared that the Texans had him locked up ......which in my opinion, they do.

Buffalo will hold on to him, if nothing works out with Houston, and wait to see if there is an injury in the preseason, and then maximize his value. Is this likely? No, there is no question in my mind that Marv wants a pick this year, and doesn't feel like waiting around. So don't worry, he will be a Houston Texan sooner or later.

Local papers have reported today that Houston is offering the 4th (98) overall, but Buffalo wants one of thier 3rds. Marv is reaching at this point, because Emo doesn't want to play here, and has made it very public that he'll never wear a Bills uni again. I believe him, and so should Marv and the rest of the Bills brain-trust. Get the 4th, and walk away.

Yeah, I'm a Bills fan, but I will say that Moulds is a MUCH better player than you think he is. This guy did everything for us, with almost zero help around him. He's gone through so many different Quaterbacks, coaches, and offensive systems. Moulds restructured his contract more than once to help the team, and what did they do for him....nothing. I don't blame him for wanting a fresh start near his home, on a team that has all the makings of a true contender if just a few things get cleaned up. Andre Johnson, D. Davis, Reggie Bush, and Eric Moulds....not a bad core at all.

Good luck with Emo, he'll show that a fourth rounder was a very small price to pay for a guy that comes to play, hard, on every play.


Thank you. For some reason these tools believe we have to cut Moulds or we will be over the cap :homer:'s. I must have posted 2 or 3 times already trying to explain it and they just dont get it or dont want to hear it. :hairpull:
 
God I hate math.. Who cares about the cap space? These guys have this all worked out. Otherwise they wouldnt be making deals. Leave the money counting to the people that get paid to. Just annouce we got moulds for a pair of 1989 Air jordans.

Ill give up a fourth for one great receiver.
 
It's not that the Bills have to cut Moulds, but considering the situation if they don't they could have a situation similar to T.O. No I'm not saying that it'll be that drastic, but I don't think it would be worth it to have him in the locker room if they didn't trade him. After they gave him permission to seek a trade and he's already found a team with which to make that transaction real. It is not about the money, any team can make moves to fix their financial situation. It is more about the Bills going through with what they plan. Not trading him now would give him a great reason for becoming a disease in the locker room, and in this case it might be worse than the T.O. situation because the Bills will have put themselves in the situation.

All that said I'm sure they will work out a deal, I don't think they will get a third because in our case it is like giving up a second and even in the article posted earlier about Moulds value they specified what part of the round. Hopefully it will be over with soon.
 
DHBILLSFAN said:
Thank you. For some reason these tools believe we have to cut Moulds or we will be over the cap :homer:'s. I must have posted 2 or 3 times already trying to explain it and they just dont get it or dont want to hear it. :hairpull:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9326894

"I still think he has playing ability," Levy said. "But I don't think we can fill all of our other needs with the type of salary cap hit we have to take with him."

No, you don't HAVE to cut him. But, why would you forsake all the rest of your team's needs to try to stick it to Moulds?
 
The Bills don't need him and Eric doesn't want to be there. Why in the world would the Bills make him stay another season when with the pick we give them they can just draft themselves a young reciever to replace him eventually.
 
[[Gary Kubiak]] said:
Let them eat his Cap hit! Sinorice Moss 2nd pick. Its not like we have no other options anyways.
I hope Sinorice wears 83 for the Jets. I still wear my Santana Moss jersey. Most people thought Randy Moss played for the Jets.
 
Bubbajwp said:
I dont think you can get a WR as talented as Moulds with a fourth or fifth round pick.

I know if anything I'm really high on Eric Moulds :)

But the Bills don't want Eric and Eric doens't want the Bills so they'd be better off trying to replace him with a WR in the draft if they feel they need a WR. I'm not saying that they have to use our pick on a WR, they could use it to fill any of their other big needs, but they could use a second round pick on someone like Maurice Stovall or Jason Avant (or even a third if they fall that far). But that's only if they want to draft a WR. I honestly think they have enough young, upcoming, huge upside WRs, and I am really high on Roscoe Parrish (Miami players tend to be great NFL players) and I think he will pass up Reed as being the 2nd WR on the team by opening day if not by the end of the year. Basically, to sum this all up, they can draft a WR if they really feel like they need one, but I think they're fine.
 
They just did a segment on fox about Moulds. Did anyone else see it. He sounded pretty optimistic. His agent and him were both talking about trying to get things done as soon as possible and my favorite part. Moulds spoke about the qualities he wants to bring to the team and wanting to get to work asap.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
They just did a segment on fox about Moulds. Did anyone else see it. He sounded pretty optimistic. His agent and him were both talking about trying to get things done as soon as possible and my favorite part. Moulds spoke about the qualities he wants to bring to the team and wanting to get to work asap.

I would love to see Carr and Moulds working out a lot. Might encourage AJ to do the same thing. You get your QB and WR's on the same page, particularly two receivers like AJ and Moulds, and it will be fun to watch and a nightmare for the other team.......................
 
Thanks, that is great news. The Texans can use him to help with the offense and now they can draft best player available and probably get some defensive help as well as an OLM or two.
 
old football fan said:
I would be willing to give a 4th rounder for Moulds and maybe a 6th round pick. He helps our offense right from the get go. Now lets get some defense.:redtowel: :yahoo:

WHY???

If you give them a 4th you are already giving them what most teams would look at as the late 3rd as it would be the 1st pick of the second day...

and you want to give them a 6th??? What team are you on?
 
I've heard "dotting the I's and crossing the T's conversation before, link please.
I don't mean to sound negative, but after about 90 pages in the "other" thread, I would like official conformation
 
johnny_tlmn said:
But it does not specify the exact numbers he's gettin' therefore I'm givin' u the latest just as a fellow Texan.....problem?!:brickwall
I think the numbers were already posted somewhere in the thread.
 
This is no different than what we have gone through the last week. So what if he came here and did a physical and met the coaching staff. Rookies do that before the draft also.

If it was that close to a "done deal" why did Moulds fly back to Buffalo then. They are not as close as you think. If they were going to finalize it in a day, he would have stayed and been announced.

I have a upset stomach feeling about this.

:texans: :penalty: :listening :thud:
 
johnny_tlmn said:
Mark Berman reports that the Texans has signed WR Eric Moulds for a 4 yr 14 mill dollar deal. The Texans have to reach a draft deal with the Bills, on which pick we give them for him though. He said they just need to dot the i's and cross the t's but its official we got 'em.:redtowel:

It's like I've found some sort of wormhole...Is it last Thursday again?
 
It's appreciated, but the 4-year, 14 million dollar deal has been posted on the other thread numerous times if im not mistaken. We're all just dying to find out what round pick we're giving the Bills... the confirmation.
 
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