eriadoc
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Yeah, if you truly believe that, you're crazy.
Yes, I truly believe that Quin is a better player today than Ed Reed is. And being called crazy by you, I'm OK with.
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Yeah, if you truly believe that, you're crazy.
This is silly. Has nothing to do with nothing. If they wanted to keep Quin, they could have & sign Cushing & sign Watt. If they want to, they'll find a way, they always do.
What are your thoghts on keeping money available for next year and Cushing/Watt signings? Reed can be off the books after this year. Quin would be on for another 4 years at a vets 2nd contract price.
....and in other news Michael Huff played well last night.
You just got done telling me that the Texans could sign Quin, Watt and Cushing if they wanted to. Then that they have someone who knows how to manage the cap when sometimes managing the cap means not signing a Glover Quin for 5 years 23 million.
I am not saying they HAD to pass on Quin to get Cushing and Watt, but that it might be a good idea when you are going after guys that are going to command alot of money. But I guess that is "silly" to you.
eriadoc, you sound ignorant.
Reed and Quinn are completely different types of players. We struggles last year against the pass when we played top tier QB's. Ed Reed was brought in because those are the kinds of teams we'll likely have to beat to get to the Superbowl.
If the teams we needed to beat were built like the Vikings with a beat RB that liked to give it to him a lot, then Quinn would probably be a better fit.
They got Reed to help us try to be better against the pass. Not sure how you don't get that.
Pot, kettle, whatever.
I do get that. But what you seem to be ignorant of is:
1.) It doesn't matter what kind of player Ed Reed USED TO BE. He's not the center fielder he used to be.
1.) It doesn't matter what kind of player Ed Reed USED TO BE. He's not the center fielder he used to be.
If Ed Reed comes in and plays better than he did last year, then it's a great signing. I've basically said that several times. I just don't see it happening, and I don't see the reward being worth the risk, in this particular case.
2012 INT's - Ed Reed 4
2009-2012 INT's - Quinn 5
If we compare Glover's stats to Reed's stats next year, I predict Glover is going to have the better numbers. But I think Reed's impact is going to be Tom Brady waiting a fraction of a second longer before letting the ball fly. Hopefully that will allow Whitney, Watt, etc... to finish.
In the end, if we get to the AFC Championship game, I'm going to say it was worth it, regardless what kind of year Glover has (I'm predicting pro bowl).
That's if Ed Reed gives us any significant minutes on the field & I believe he will.
Regardless how many games Ed Reed plays, or how many tackles he misses or how many INTs he has...... if we're not in the AFC Championship game when it's all said & done, I'll feel we wasted our time & money... that it was a bad move.
fwiw....in 2012 PFF had Reed rated at +4.5 (#18 best) in pass coverage to Quins -1.6 (#66 best) in coverage. Quin much better against the run and as was noted, different types of players.
Manning, Swearinger, and Reed all have strengths and weaknesses... but the leadership and experience future HOF Reed brings to this D is invaluable.
I think some here are under-valuing the intangibles Reed brings. Look at the way the D folded down the stretch. Even at his reduced state, he can still play center fielder reasonably well.
More importantly, he's a guy with a rep. And folks like Mr. Manning and Mr. Brady know that rep and I know they look at film - I get that. Still, they have a decade long history with this guy and having him back there is a psychological plus imo.
Secondly, it's a psychological boost for the other 10 guys out there. Again, somewhat based off of rep more than current reality, but there is something reassuring about having a coach on the field out there, and his on field leadership, and making sure guys are aware of formations etc,.and lined up correctly is a huge plus imo.
Let's also not under estimate also his locker room presence. Having a guy with that kind of reputation, ability, and leadership can only help bring young guys along more quickly and better.
Is he worth it? In my humble opinion, yes. Worth every penny.
My guess is he's starting week 3. Not sure if he'll make an appearance in the first 2 games.
This. This. THIS!
the main reason they brought him here. Everyone including the coaching staff and front office knew the team just **** the proverbial bed at the end of the season. Reading too many of their own stories and drinking their own Kool-Aid. Reed WILL NOT let that happen.
True. No way would Reed let the team buy letterman jackets. No freaking way.
Reed WILL NOT let that happen.
You mean if he makes it out on the playing field because yelling from the sidelines won't cut it.
Ed Reed is another Tony Boselli. Dumb signing in the hopes they can still play. Atleast Ed will be getting 60k a game whether he plays or not. Must be nice to have a dumb enough team to do that.
Well if worst comes to worse he can coach special teams like he was coaching on a sunday
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Ed Reed is another Tony Boselli. Dumb signing in the hopes they can still play. Atleast Ed will be getting 60k a game whether he plays or not. Must be nice to have a dumb enough team to do that. So we filled a roster spot for a cheerleader? Awesome. Where's David Car so we can have a cheerleader on the Offensive side too?
Ed reed in competition for Texans backup QB position.
I'm actually starting to get pretty pissed about this entire Ed
Reed fiasco.
I seriously doubt this guy contributes much this year. Even
if he gets totally healthy, he's so far behind the 8-ball in
team chemistry with the rest of the secondary that our
playoff position could already be determined by the time
he becomes a factor.
Guy should pay back some of his contract money..
TJ
Ask ANY Ravens fan and they will tell you its Ed being Ed. he does this every year.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-08-27/texans-ed-reed-injury-status-week-1-season-opener-hip-surgeryThe Houston Texans expect by the end of this week to have a better idea whether injured safety Ed Reed will play in their season opener.
Coach Gary Kubiak said Monday that Reed is in Vail, Colo., visiting the surgeon who performed his April hip surgery to repair a partially-torn labrum. He will receive injections in his hip during the visit and then travel Atlanta later this week to continue his rehabilitation.
Ed was at the Texans luncheon today. Kubiak said this last week I believe.
He said that he would be visiting his surgeon for examination.
Veteran safety Ed Reed will likely make the final decision as to whether he plays during a regular season-opener Sept. 9 at San Diego.
Reed attended the Texans’ annual team luncheon Tuesday after visiting Monday with his surgeon in Vail, Colo. It will take about 3-5 days for the injections Reed received to set in, Texans coach Gary Kubiak said Tuesday, and the team is ready to play him against the Chargers if Reed gives the OK.
“It’s really Ed’s call because he’s been through this process before,” Kubiak said at a Galleria-area hotel. “Ed’s played a lot of football. Ed doesn’t need to go out there and play cover-3 because he’s been doing it for many years - that’s not a problem. It gets down to him still having confidence in what he’s doing and feeling confident and, obviously, we’re in this for the long haul, so we want to do the smart thing
Just cut him now and be done with it. I can't believe the Texans got Bosellied again. Geez.
Dude, seriously calm down. You'll have a stroke being such a negative Nancy.