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Ed Reed may miss games now

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http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/262882/ed-reed-i-could-miss-regular-season-games


Ed Reed (hip surgery) admits he might not be ready for Week 1.
Reed's injury hoodwink keeps getting worse for the Texans. "I plan on being back for Week 1," Reed said Wednesday. "But as you’ve known me for the longest time, I’m going to be smart about my injuries and make sure I’m there for the later part of the season when the team really needs me." Reed has gone from being ready for the start of camp, to potentially returning "midway through it" to not a guarantee for Week 1. Reed could still easily end up being ready for Week 1, but it's safe to say he would have never gotten his three-year, $15 million deal had the Texans known the true extent of his injury.
Source: Houston Chronicle Jun 5 - 3:25 PM
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'eh, one big game changing play in the playoffs will make all if it worthwhile.

Hopefully some of his attitude and perspectives rub off on our secondary in the meantime.
 
HoustonFrog said:
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/262882/ed-reed-i-could-miss-regular-season-games
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As I've said before, hip labrum surgery is seldom to be taken lightly.........and the hip problem for some football players may never disappear or may easily increase or recur with continued trauma. This new revelation, though, is shocking!...........simply shocking, I tell you!:kitten:

I expect the next hip specialist called in to examine Reed will correctly diagnose and permanently fix the problem.

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Defense looks like it'll be pretty bad except for JJ Watt. Question marks all around with the linebacker situation, Earl Mitchell at the NT is an issue for me, and Ed Reed's health is a big concern.
 
HoustonFrog said:
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/262882/ed-reed-i-could-miss-regular-season-games
Reed could still easily end up being ready for Week 1, but it's safe to say he would have never gotten his three-year, $15 million deal had the Texans known the true extent of his injury.
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I don't know, necessarily, that it's safe to say that. Unless we're playing the New England Patriots week 1, it's possible we couldn't care less.

I'm sure the Texans are upset & probably feeling "violated" at this time. But we're not expecting Ed Reed to roam from sideline to sideline 20+ yards out game in & game out. We want him to bring some swagger & notoriety to our secondary & an extra half second for Jj Watt when it counts.

If the Texans had to chose between signing Ed Reed to $15M/3 years or Ed Reed retiring, I think they would have gone the same way. But still, they would have liked to have known all this before hand so they could work out their story, probably add a few stipulations to where Reed would do his rehab, that kind of stuff.
 
You're right, we don't play NE until December 1. Though the important questions that we have no solid answers to now are:

1) Will he ever recover to the performance level that was expected when he was signed?

2) Will he re-injure his hip?

3) Will he suffer a new injury?

You may say that there is plenty of time for "recovery." But, the season is too long and there are too many important and tough games along the way between the beginning of the season and the playoffs to feel too "secure" with our new acquisition. Hopeful maybe........secure no.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
You may say that there is plenty of time for "recovery." But, the season is too long and there are too many important and tough games along the way between the beginning of the season and the playoffs to feel too "secure" with our new acquisition. Hopeful maybe........secure no.
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My point, was that signing him was not about having him available week 1. I'm only arguing the point about "safe to say" quote from the article.
 
thunderkyss said:
My point, was that signing him was not about having him available week 1. I'm only arguing the point about "safe to say" quote from the article.
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i'm not to worried, the game tape i have watched on D.J has me feeling pretty confident we have our safety of the future anyways. Plus the kid looks NFL ready to me !
 
EllisUnit said:
i'm not to worried, the game tape i have watched on D.J has me feeling pretty confident we have our safety of the future anyways. Plus the kid looks NFL ready to me !
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Unless you're feeling confident that Wade's man love for Shilo Keo has waned...... I'd be a little bit worried.
 
Nawzer said:
Defense looks like it'll be pretty bad except for JJ Watt. Question marks all around with the linebacker situation, Earl Mitchell at the NT is an issue for me, and Ed Reed's health is a big concern.
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Healthy Cushing & JJo, better in the pass rush rotation, Reed can be rotated inside. Mitchell >= Cody. Swearinger is already in nickle & dime and has great ball skills. If all we get out of Reed is commitment to coaching up the young guys, I'm optimistic.

Lechler will be an important upgrade, as well.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
You're right, we don't play NE until December 1. Though the important questions that we have no solid answers to now are:

1) Will he ever recover to the performance level that was expected when he was signed?

2) Will he re-injure his hip?

3) Will he suffer a new injury?

You may say that there is plenty of time for "recovery." But, the season is too long and there are too many important and tough games along the way between the beginning of the season and the playoffs to feel too "secure" with our new acquisition. Hopeful maybe........secure no.
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I am secure in knowing that in the NFL you can never feel secure.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
You're right, we don't play NE until December 1. Though the important questions that we have no solid answers to now are:

1) Will he ever recover to the performance level that was expected when he was signed?

2) Will he re-injure his hip?

3) Will he suffer a new injury?

You may say that there is plenty of time for "recovery." But, the season is too long and there are too many important and tough games along the way between the beginning of the season and the playoffs to feel too "secure" with our new acquisition. Hopeful maybe........secure no.
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I think it comes down to the same thing it always does in the NFL (and life)...Risk/Reward ratio. In this situation there is an above "average" risk we will get substandard or no production from our FA safety. However there is a significant chance that we get a handful of game changing plays that can make the difference between being a superbowl champ or a 1 and done team. The cost of this is $5 million. Certainly we could have spent that money on a lower risk/lower reward proposition. But those guys can get hurt and be out for the season too. IMO, the Texans knew exactly what they were doing/getting. It remains to be seen if it will pay off or not. I think part of the reason there is excitement about Ed Reed is this represents a 180 degree change from what everyone expected Rick Smith to do based upon prior history, which would have dictated that he get another guy like Manning.
 
Nawzer said:
Defense looks like it'll be pretty bad except for JJ Watt. Question marks all around with the linebacker situation, Earl Mitchell at the NT is an issue for me, and Ed Reed's health is a big concern.
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No way. They are going to light people up.
 
Imo, anyone who has ever heard Ed Reed interview should know to take what he says with a grain of salt. He's only missed 16 games in 11 years, 0 in the past 2. Let's wait until Aug-Sept before we start throwing FA bust comparisons out there
 
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GNTLEWOLF said:
Can you say "Tony Boselli?"...
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No, this is nothing like that.

Now it might be "Ahman Green" but I think we need Reed less than we needed Green at that time. It's bad if Reed doesn't come through but it's not like we have nothing else back there. When Green didn't come through the Texans were just kind of screwed.
 
eriadoc said:
No, but I can say Ahman Green. And Eric Moulds.
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It's somewhat interesting to look back in comparison at this March 2007 TexansTalk post re. Green. He came in with a better historical injury and performance track record prior to the Texans signing him. He certainly was not signed with a significant injury. But then it just didn't work out.

The myths of Ahman Green

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Browsing this board and a few of the Chronicle blogs, it seems there are a lot of folks who love to whine for the sake of whining without actually understanding the subject of what they're arguing. So, I figured it'd be good to have a single thread to dismiss most of these lies.

1. Why sign a running back who's injury-prone?

Well, because he's not. He had one leg injury two years ago - other than that, his track record has been one of incredible durability. 16 games, 14 games, 16 games, 16 games, 14 games, 16 games, 15 games, 5 years, and 14 games. You tell me which is the outlier among Green's nine seasons in the league. If anything, durability with Green is a positive, not a negative.

2. He's aging and washed up. A has been.

Do washed up has-beens accumulate almost 1,500 yards from scrimmage on about 300 touches last season? Do they average 4 YPC behind a poor offensive line (probably worse at run blocking than ours) and catch 46 passes at more than 8 YPC? Pop quiz: for all the love Reggie Bush gets for his versatility, who had more combined offensive yards (rushing + receiving) last season for a higher yards per touch - Reggie Bush, or Ahman Green? If you answered the latter, you'd be correct. If Green is a has been based on last season, I guess that makes Bush a never was.

3. Why not Travis Henry?

Because Henry averaged 3.5 YPC in 2004, 3.8 in 2005, and 2.7 in 2006 until VY showed up, when his YPC instantly shot up. Coincidence? I think not. Henry looked poor for three consecutive seasons, until he was able to benefit from the zone read scheme that made linebackers a step slow because they had to account for the possibility of Young faking the handoff and keeping it himself. Second, want to talk injury prone? That label applies to Henry - a guy with multiple nagging injuries - moreso than it does to Green, a durable player with one significant injury his entire career.

4. Running backs at 30 or older never do anything.

I guess someone forgot to tell that to Tiki Barber, who rushed for 1860 and 1662 yards the last two seasons on more than 5 YPC to go with approximately 500 receiving yards. I guess someone forgot to tell that to Warrick Dunn, who rushed for 1416 yards and 1140 yards the last two seasons, at 5 and 4 YPC. I guess someone forgot to tell that to Fred Taylor, who rushed for 1146 yards at 5 YPC last season. While a majority of backs are young, by no means is it a rule or requirement.

5. Why sign a reject that other teams didn't want?

Green Bay tried to re-sign him. Denver tried to sign him. The logic of "why sign so and so because so and so's old team let him go" can be applied to every free agent in the history of free agency. If you believe in that, why pursue anyone other than in the draft? Green had plenty of other suitors, but we offered the deal to get him here and he took it.

6. Why take another Packer or Bronco?

Yeah, I'm sure it's an obsession thing. Or maybe, just maybe, the Texans had a need at RB, and looked at all their options. They wanted someone with a proven track record - how's 6 out of 7 1,000 yard seasons sound? They wanted someone with experience behind a bad offensive line - how's the worst run-blocking OL in the league last season (Green Bay) sound? They wanted someone with experience with the zone blocking scheme - guess what Green Bay runs? They wanted someone with sound character to step up and be a leader - that's one thing Green is known for. They wanted someone to be a receiver out of the backfield - how does 46 catches at more than 8 YPC sound? Along with four seasons of 50 receptions or more? They wanted someone to step in for 2-3 seasons while a back for the future is developed via the draft - how's a 30 year old with about 2-3 really good years left in the tank sound?

Maybe it's not because they're obsessed with Packer running backs. Maybe it's because he's a really good fit. Think about it.

7. Why sign anyone so old? We're not going to contend in the next couple of years.

Yeah! That's the spirit! Don't even try in the next couple of years - that'll help build support for this franchise! Also, remember what happened the last time this team cut veteran leadership (Glenn and Sharper) and the dropoff that ensued when the team was put almost exclusively put in younger hands? Every team needs veteran leadership, particularly at skill positions, to direct the offense and help younger players. It's a vital part of building a team.

8. Why overpay for a 30-year old RB?

Well, first of all, running backs in the top five for the decade with 6 of 7 thousand-yard seasons (including last season) with good receiving skills don't come asking to play for the minimum. Secondly, this is the Houston Texans, not the Indianapolis Colts. This has been one of the worst teams in football for five years now. You think players are begging to play here? You have to pay a premium, change the culture, get some wins, and then potentially reap the rewards. It's a phase of rebuilding - either deal with it, or plan on rebuilding for a whole lot longer.



None of this is to say the signing is perfect - it certainly has its risks. But a few folks sound like they're complaining simply for the sake of complaining, rather than it being sound judgment and reasoning. These responses should answer some of the negativity.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
It's somewhat interesting to look back in comparison at this March 2007 TexansTalk post re. Green. He came in with a better historical injury and performance track record prior to the Texans signing him. He certainly was not signed with a significant injury. But then it just didn't work out.
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That's actually why it's an apt comparison. There were signs, in the case of Green, of what was to come. You don't take a guy who is injured or has been injured frequently of late, and expect him to improve at age 30, in Green's case. What Green did as a Texan was predictable.

Reed suffered from injury last season, despite playing through it, and his production suffered. To expect him to return to form at his age is just unrealistic. JMO, but it was stupid to let Quin go in favor of Reed, especially when the money was effectively the same. I was hoping for Swearinger on draft day, however, so I have hope that it won't matter much.
 
thunderkyss said:
Unless you're feeling confident that Wade's man love for Shilo Keo has waned...... I'd be a little bit worried.
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This. Folks keep thinking 'Well DJ can step in for him!'. Well one, he's still a rookie and unproven at this point. We all think he can but there is no certainity there. But let's say he does step in and fills the role in a solid manner. I am expecting him to just like others but you are still forgetting that Wade employs a system that utilizes THREE safeties when we face spreads and we face them often enough. Not to mention we struggled against spreads last year as it is.

So who is that third safety if Reed is down? At this point it is Keo. Unless Keo has vastly improved that is a scary proposition.
 
uggghhh.....I'm sick to my stomach and getting light headed..looks like Ima be heading to sick call tomorrow morning...........:kubepalm:
 
...Reed talked about his new team in Houston and his ongoing recovery from a surgical procedure on his hip.

“In going through this process of having to have surgery, I couldn’t have any other organization behind me the way this organization is standing behind me and understanding this process,” Reed said. “Understanding that I’m doing everything possible, and will do everything possible to be at that first game.”

Reed has been rehabbing in Atlanta, and according to head coach Gary Kubiak, will join the team for minicamp on Tuesday.

“He’ll be here next week,” Kubiak said after yesterday's OTA. “He’ll be here basically for just an evaluation process. Obviously he can’t do anything. We know who’s working with him in Atlanta and then we’ll get him here next week.”

In addition to his praise for the Texans’ organization and its response to his surgery, Reed also spoke highly of his head coach, defensive coordinator Wade Phillips and secondary coach Vance Joseph.

“Coach Kubiak is one of the coolest coaches I’ve ever met, and Wade is so laid back you can’t do anything but enjoy him,” Reed said. “And my position coach is really cool.”

Reed also described Houston as being “home”. He and the Texans will go through mandatory work at the Methodist Training Center on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday before taking the last long break of the offseason. Training camp will begin in late July.
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http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...se-visit/53e2ccd2-d990-4337-9642-8014edbb4fc9
 
Playoffs said:
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...se-visit/53e2ccd2-d990-4337-9642-8014edbb4fc9
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his praise for the Texans’ organization.........response to his surgery
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What else can they do? With a non-incentive-based $5 million guaranteed contract signed with an "unknown" injury that requires surgery with an indeterminable prognosis, they are probably walking on egg shells not to highlight their perceived possible "mistake" or upset their investment or push him to the point of causing a setback.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
What else can they do? With a non-incentive-based $5 million guaranteed contract signed with an "unknown" injury that requires surgery with an indeterminable prognosis, they are probably walking on egg shells not to highlight their perceived possible "mistake" or upset their investment or push him to the point of causing a setback.
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I think they could force him to rehab here with their own people, perhaps even require use of their own doctors. Generally treat him in a manner of distrust versus treating him in a way that says "we know you're a professional and handling this in the best way for your quickest recovery."

Reed has spoken many times to his disappointment with how things were dealt with with his prior team/organization. The milk is spilled ... need to maximize what we can from the situation.
 
Playoffs said:
I think they could force him to rehab here with their own people, perhaps even require use of their own doctors. Generally treat him in a manner of distrust versus treating him in a way that says "we know you're a professional and handling this in the best way for your quickest recovery."

Reed has spoken many times to his disappointment with how things were dealt with with his prior team/organization. The milk is spilled ... need to maximize what we can from the situation.
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I understand what you're saying. But unfortunately, I believe the Texans have absolutely no leverage to force him to do anything.
 
Playoffs said:
I think they could force him to rehab here with their own people, perhaps even require use of their own doctors. Generally treat him in a manner of distrust versus treating him in a way that says "we know you're a professional and handling this in the best way for your quickest recovery."
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This is a guy they just signed and want to receive value for. I don't see how treating him "in a manner of distrust" is going to foster the type of relationship that yields the best results.

They didn't do enough homework and it was a risky signing anyway, just because he's an older player coming off recent injury. They're basically up a creek and Ed Reed's doctors and genetics have the only paddle.
 
badboy said:
Wonder if Glover Quin will be on field game one?
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If we went out & drafted a safety anyway, now that I think about it, I wonder why we didn't sign GQ. He didn't sign some crazy, "we won't be able to sign anyone else" type deal. We've still got several contacts that could have been redone to make the room needed.

I wonder if the Texans overvalued Glover, priced themselves out of the market.
 
thunderkyss said:
If we went out & drafted a safety anyway, now that I think about it, I wonder why we didn't sign GQ. He didn't sign some crazy, "we won't be able to sign anyone else" type deal. We've still got several contacts that could have been redone to make the room needed.

I wonder if the Texans overvalued Glover, priced themselves out of the market.
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The Lions gave him a $23 mil/5 year contract. But the only guaranteed money was the $1.5 mil signing bonus x each of the 5 years (total of $5.25 mil). His base salary for this year was only $1 mil (cap hit....$2.5 mil). It then escalates to $4 mil/year for the next 4 years though).
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The Lions gave him a $23 mil/5 year contract. But the only guaranteed money was the $1.5 mil signing bonus x each of the 5 years (total of $5.25 mil). His base salary for this year was only $1 mil (cap hit....$2.5 mil). It then escalates to $4 mil/year for the next 4 years though).
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So you agree? Surely you don't think $4M/yr is too much for Quin?

I (like the Texans probably did) like him. I think he would have blew up in year 3 as our safety in this system. Nigh Pro Bowl, All-Pro. The chances of him being the guy we need in year 3 of this system & Ed Reed (much respect, don't get me wrong, but your medical diagnoses is part of the reason) being that guy is pretty much the same... maybe slight edge to GQ.

I think $4M/yr is about what the average starter should get (so I think Quin would have been a steal). 22 starters x $4M/yr, that's only $88M. With a $120M cap, that leaves you with $32M to sign your franchise players & the rest of your 53.

Say Antonio Smith's $9M number. $4M would come from the $88M we accounted for our starters, $5M from the $32M, leaving you $27M for your Schaubs, Andres, Arians, DBrowns etc...

Of course not all our starters make $4M.... the number is just an average, where I'm saying a starter should be making $4M. Our RT, RG, FB, WR2, TE2, ILB(next to Cushing), NT, OLB(Not named Whitney), etc..... won't be making $4M/yr.

Quin is worth $4M/yr easily in my mind.
 
thunderkyss said:
So you agree? Surely you don't think $4M/yr is too much for Quin?

I (like the Texans probably did) like him. I think he would have blew up in year 3 as our safety in this system. Nigh Pro Bowl, All-Pro. The chances of him being the guy we need in year 3 of this system & Ed Reed (much respect, don't get me wrong, but your medical diagnoses is part of the reason) being that guy is pretty much the same... maybe slight edge to GQ.

I think $4M/yr is about what the average starter should get (so I think Quin would have been a steal). 22 starters x $4M/yr, that's only $88M. With a $120M cap, that leaves you with $32M to sign your franchise players & the rest of your 53.

Say Antonio Smith's $9M number. $4M would come from the $88M we accounted for our starters, $5M from the $32M, leaving you $27M for your Schaubs, Andres, Arians, DBrowns etc...

Of course not all our starters make $4M.... the number is just an average, where I'm saying a starter should be making $4M. Our RT, RG, FB, WR2, TE2, ILB(next to Cushing), NT, OLB(Not named Whitney), etc..... won't be making $4M/yr.

Quin is worth $4M/yr easily in my mind.
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I was sad when Quin was allowed to walk.

The points that were made against keeping him were topped by:
1)his "limitations" at his position
2)his "limitations" regarding his peak
3)Reed could be an on-field coach

I would have to counter with:
1)Reed certainly showed limitations at his position last year (and now the hip leaves us with more questions)
2)Reed's peek days are behind him and can only trend towards decline
3)If we wanted another secondary coach, we could get the best for $3-400,000

It appears that if the Texans really wanted to keep Quin, it could have probably happened.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I was sad when Quin was allowed to walk.

The points that were made against keeping him were topped by:
1)his "limitations" at his position
2)his "limitations" regarding his peak
3)Reed could be an on-field coach

I would have to counter with:
1)Reed certainly showed limitations at his position last year (and now the hip leaves us with more questions)
2)Reed's peek days are behind him and can only trend towards decline
3)If we wanted another secondary coach, we could get the best for $3-400,000

It appears that if the Texans really wanted to keep Quin, it could have probably happened.
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MSR.
 
This is what burns me up. All off the below :pissed:

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...mp-Day-1/9e04bb86-0d1c-4a86-989b-328a0eff7865

FS Ed Reed

(on if he feels like a Texan now that he is in Houston) “Yeah, man. Once I got finished collecting my money from my other team, you know, finished up counting, I gave it a 24-hour grace period to kind of let that soak in and make that transition, to really get acclimated. It’s good money. Guys are welcoming, like it was when I first came. Just starting to get it going.”

(on potentially playing in the first game of the season) “Like I said, I'm going to keep counting money this offseason. Once training camp comes I’ll have a better bead on it, as far as how much I've got. Right now, I can tell you, it’s going well; going really good. No bounced checks. I’m actually just coming from counting my money right now. As you can see, I’m a little fatigued from it getting the best of me. You know, that’s part of it. It’s looking really good right now.”

(on if he’ll be disappointed if he’s not ready to play in Week 1) “Like I said, I'm going to continue to count. No disappointments because bankin' is a process. I’m going to keep counting. Come training camp, like I said, I’ll have a better bead on it, a better feel for it. Right now, it’s still offseason and I've got to get paid.”

(on if he was surprised that he needed surgery and how that worked out) “Yeah. I mean, I knew. I knew there was something there but it didn’t seem major until that first check. Honestly, it was a slight tear and we did due diligence on both sides. Me, my doctor, Kap (Texans director of sports medicine and head athletic trainer Geoff Kaplan), the head doctor here and Dr. (Marc) Philippon; we all put our heads together to make the best decision and that was the best decision. I mean Kap has fat stacks, too, and Philippon enjoys his bourbon and hot tub hoes."

(on if having this injury could be a benefit in the sense that if he’s not ready to play until Week 3 or 4, he may be fresher at the end of the season) “We’re going to go through the money counting process. I don’t know when I’ll be back. I know what my goal is and I know what the team goal is. But I know being here and just talking to everybody and even when you see Mr. Bob (McNair) there, it’s about being smart and looking kind of sad when he's around. Money is a grind, man. Money is a grind. Of course, you never want to have surgery. I fought with it, man, because I know that sh!t cost a lot of change! ‘You’ve got to make a decision.’ And I’m in the office by myself, just praying, ‘Lord, save my money.’ Because I don’t want to have surgery if I don’t have to. But the smartest thing to do, the smartest decision at the time was to have surgery.”

(on President Barack Obama saying he looked like an old man) “I mean, he’s not lying. I’ve been having the gray hairs since my first paper route. My bank, working with money and stuff, it tends to do that. When you’re trying to count that sh!t up, it tends to put a little bit more stress on you than the norm. It’s something I embrace, Obviously, I don’t cut my hair. I’m not putting the Just For Men in there to try to hide the gray and what not. It’s something I embrace as part of me. It says a lot. I have a lot of money and it takes a lifetime of counting.”

(on what he was saying back to President Barack Obama at the White House) “I just told him, ‘You know what your job can do to you.’ And he was like, ‘I understand exactly what you’re saying. I've been lying and counting your money for years now!’ It was a great time and I really enjoyed it.”
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*the above was purely fictional, for satirical purposes only.
 
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Sounds a little like a guy playing his 100th season that wouldn't mind missing some of the grind of training camp. You'd like to see him getting reps with the defense, but Reed is such a student of the game I really don't think he needs much practice time to do what we hope for him to do this year. Maybe I'm the only one not really panicking or all that worried right now.
 
I was watching the last game against the Colts last night and must say, Quin had a rough game. I've re-watched a few games from last season and have come to the conclusion that we might've overrated Quin. I love the way he tackles, but his coverage is average to below average. That said, I was wary on the Reed signing and am still kinda meh until I see him on the field. Hopefully DJ is as good as the early reports are saying.

*Schaub's poorly thrown ball to Casey that was picked angrified me all over again. As well as settling for FGs and crappy STs
 
HOU-TEX said:
I was watching the last game against the Colts last night and must say, Quin had a rough game. I've re-watched a few games from last season and have come to the conclusion that we might've overrated Quin. I love the way he tackles, but his coverage is average to below average. That said, I was wary on the Reed signing and am still kinda meh until I see him on the field. Hopefully DJ is as good as the early reports are saying.

*Schaub's poorly thrown ball to Casey that was picked angrified me all over again. As well as settling for FGs and crappy STs
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According to Pro Football Focus charting, Quin had 4 below average games, 5 above average games, 9 sort of meh games.

Worst games were against Indy the second time, Green Bay, Patriots regular season, Chicago. Also had the terrible Patriots mic'd up segment in playoffs that was ooof.

Reed, like the Ravens last year, had a very feast or famine year: 7 below average games, 6 above average games, 7 sort of meh games.

Interestingly, his better games skew towards the beginning of the season, including the early matchup against NE.

Ultimately, think Swearinger is a reflection of going cheaper/younger, hoping for more upside. And Reed is more about intangibles, and hoping that last year was more of an anomaly, a risk-reward choice. PFF rated him 59th last year, but in previous years of their ratings (2011-2008) he was: 12th, 9th, 2nd, 4th. All of those rankings are higher than any safety the Texans have ever had.

I'm also thinking that safety rankings may have a lot to do with rankings of a defense as a whole. Despite winning a SB last year, Ravens defense struggled for much of the regular season, got healthy at right time.
 
badboy said:
Interesting that you have joined those who make claims in big letters then the qualifyer comes in tiny print at bottom.
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That's the nature of satire. See: Clemens, Samuel L. Or Swift, Johnathan. You don't give away the punchline at the beginning . In fact, satire needs no caveat to the discerning reader. I just added that because I don't want Ed or his peeps coming after MY money on the libel tip.
 
badboy said:
Interesting that you have joined those who make claims in big letters then the qualifyer comes in tiny print at bottom.
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I thought it was funny as hell.

I imagined a Grady Wilson voice.

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Can't stop laughing really.
 
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