Did you check the players that were signed as FA's by the Colts? That fell under Raye's per view.
I'm done here.
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Did you check the players that were signed as FA's by the Colts? That fell under Raye's per view.
I'm done here.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Done because you won't admit you honestly have no idea. Raye never made the selections here or in Indy. The GMs did.
F off
And put me on ignore I just dont feel like going thru your BS in every thread and will no longer be responding to sh!t like this.
If you want to carry on a conversation that's fine. If you want to argue move on to somebody else.
PS, has Raye as Pro Personnel guy ever put what YOU would consider a championship quality team together? If you think he has then good for you. There's nothing really left to talk about.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Nice over-reaction.
I don't have an opinion of him because we have zero. Information.
Lol, at that not being conversation.
I don't have an opinion of him because we have zero. Information.
Lol, at that not being conversation.
Last 2 jobs he's been let go
That should tell you something.
But it wont
Comparing Raye to Belichick. I think you just jumped the shark.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I liked reading about the "unity" between Gaine, Ob, and company. I hope it continues.
Problem is, Gaine and OB haven't experienced a win or loss yet together in their current roles. Everything is unicorns and rainbows till there's adversity.
I vaguely remember all the same reports with every gm / coach combination we've ever had.
Give them a 4-12 season and this gloss becomes the same old story it always does. Every man for himself. Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
And you know that how?
Your post seems as certain as his.
(Which is to say you don't know.) The common factor however is Raye so his guess has more substance then yours.
I wonder about you cak and your motives here. What's the agenda?
You stalk specific posters. Do you do that for ego sake?
Are you deliberately stirring controversy to get more run on the site?
Are you using this site as some rehearsal for the courtroom conflicts you endure?
Maybe your just OCD?
Your a worldly guy with knowledge on a variety of topics and I often like your hard logic. You just refuse to accept sometimes people have opposing opinions to you.
Oddly, your the best and worst part of this site.
Take a break. Relax.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Over / under this post will be deleted in less then 2 hours?
infantrycak
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Didn't compare the people. Compared the argument.
I asked a d he had no detail.
Certain of what? That fans know pretty much jack about the guys below GM. You tell me, how often do you see reports of the recommendations of below GM guys? It's rare as hen's teeth. Can you identify a single one from Rayes?
The common factor I a GM change.
Pointing out that people act s if they have more knowledge of inner team workings than they do.
Some posters go outside the knowledge box as lot.
Maybe you should tell them to relax.
Over. You didn't name call.
It certainly wont be replied too.
Atleast with logic anyways and I do believe the part about using members as guinea pigs for courtroom antics may be correct and we are the fools playing along in his game.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
And now we can move on to talking about the thread topic.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Some posters consider chance outside of fact. Some poster speculate. SPECULATE.
Let them.
I enjoy conspiracy as much as I enjoy fact. Either way It's entertainment. Let it go.
Stop dropping responses like it's the end all.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Wasn't that happening already?
You got something relevant to add too this thread or is this just going to be another thread that YOU decided to F up?
I will try to get this thread back on track, Gaine set out goals to improve the OL/backend of the defense/Receiving corp/ST's. The jury is still out on whether he accomplished this but he did make an effort. One thing is for sure after this draft, this team is alot faster.
Reid/Coutee/Akins/Ejiofor/Kalambayi can all run and should be significant ST's upgrade at the very least.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Can't have the ignorant forming an opinion now. Delete is sure to follow.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Yes we all speculate big time around here. But there is no need to get all worked up because you're trying to pond that speculation as it's a fact.
Trust me, I've learned my lesson just a few weeks back. Getting all worked for nothing just like Steelbtexan is doing right now.
Powda both parties have had these type of discussions. They should know one another really well by now.
I'm not worked up at all and I'm sorry you think that I am .
Difference is I just don't feel like discussing this crap anymore and would rather see responses about Gaine and how posters feel that he's done in this off-season .
Difference is I just don't feel like discussing this crap anymore and would rather see responses about Gaine and how posters feel that he's done in this off-season .
I think we need to give him thru OTA's and TC, maybe even the preseason before we judge at least. I don't think he's done yet this year, but I like what he's done so far
Max
Veteran
I think that Gaine's getting too much credit for great draft choices that RSmith never would have made -- cuz you know, Rick Smith sucks. If you have a coach that doesn't know what kind of offense they want to run because that coach thinks he's a qb guru that can turn anyone into TB2 -- how exactly is that the GM's fault for not finding players to fit an unknown scheme? Gaine showed up at the perfect time to get all the credit -- we have a franchise qb that is able to operate a defined offense with known skillsets to fit that scheme. I just think this has been oversimplified to RSmith sucks and Gaine is great because he know what BOB wants. BOB didn't even know what BOB wanted 'til Watson showed up.
Ricky sucks for this reason, he was there for over a decade and really didn't try to correct the qb position. When McNair directed him to find a qb he failed miserably. Then happened to hit on his next shot at a qb, but got fired for failing to protect him properly.
There's a reason Ricky is not here anymore and y'all can try to spin the Ricky's got a raw deal all y'all want. But after a decade of evidence Ricky was a mediocre GM at best. So if Gaine is successful in spite of ownership giving Ricky credit just will prove that some will always see what they want to see.
Smh
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Scooter
Funky
This may sound stupid (probably is), but I almost get the feeling that the team is being built in spite of O'Brien. The key players are Watson, Crennel and Gaine. Give Watson as many weapons as possible, while placating O'Brien with what he thinks he knows from New England - a bunch of TE's that he can try to recreate Hernandez and Gronk. Get Crennel his safeties that Smith kept missing on. And Gaine filling holes on special teams and depth to support the other two. We did nothing for the run game and didn't focus on the offensive line, areas where coaching and playcalling would be paramount.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I may be wrong, but although it's been said that they want to keep Watson in the pocket, I have a feeling that this "new offense" is going to be leaning towards the spread-option. In that type of offense, there's much less need to have the TE to take on any difficult blocking assignments.
The biggest difference is Gaine and BOB are on the same page, unlike BOB and Ricky . As far as the ol, I wish they would have drafted an ot like Richardson to develop, but you know that even if Gaine wanted to draft a guy like Richardson you know ownership won't ever let that happen.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Of course they're on the same page. BOB got exactly what he wanted just like Kubiak lobbying for Smith. A yes sir man who will do exactly what the coach wants. BOB has all the power. So again if course Gaine will line up with what Bill wants.
Give it a few years and if they are not successful. You will be on here dragging Gaine's in the ground as well.
Give it a few years and if they are not successful. You will be on here dragging Gaine's in the ground as well.
Max
Veteran
I think Ricky got fired for failing to get along w/ BOB (when BOB couldn't find a qb to save his life). They finally got their qb and McNair knew the 2 of them couldn't work together so he canned RSmith (right decision IMO). This is why I don't think you're giving McNair enough credit in his commitment to winning. #Godfathergotcanned
Texansballer74
The Marine
And you know darn well no team will give a boot head coach power in his first few years.
Shoots even Smith didn't have any pull until Kubiak was out the door.
Shoots even Smith didn't have any pull until Kubiak was out the door.
Texansballer74
The Marine
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
More like sidenote. I doubt he got a pat cut (pure speculation).
Scooter
Funky
That's kinda what I was getting at - we can clearly see what page Gaine is on (special teams, depth, maximizing what Watson and Crennel need) - do we even know what book O'Brien is reading? We can hate Rick for everything we do and don't know, but he was still working with O'Brien, at no point was it unilateral with random players being thrown at O'Brien. The shift this offseason has been relatively dramatic. Apparently there's going to be a brand new offense, but I get a very strong feeling that O'Brien is being steered into a direction that reduces his impact in favor of what Watson does with the ball, which IMO is what a GM should be focused on (organizing the team in a way that results in wins). Obviously 'we'll see' is the motto this time of year, just something that kind of struck me about this offseason. Of course this is just random thoughts on my part, and admittedly not entirely unbiased.
Scooter
Funky
I'd put Smith as a huge reason Kubiak was shown the door. Not that a hurricane and record breaking bad luck with Schaub (pick 6) and Wade (fewest turnovers) didn't help, but I think the defining part of the mess we ran into was when the power scale tipped from Kubiak's football to Rick/McNair's ignorance. Hell one starts to wonder what talent Kubiak and Wade would have had to work with if not for Rick in the first place.
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TheRealJoker
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Kubiak and Wade did win a Super Bowl with the Broncos shortly after getting fired here so...
Ricky is one hell of a politician. Which is great for his career but not so good for building a winning football org.
Kudos to Kubiak and Wade, but their impact on the personnel was minimum. They took over a team that was ready to win a championship and to their credit, they didn't let a great opportunity slip away.
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They also built a Texan team that many believe would have won the super bowl if schaub didn't get hurt. People such as Andre and Arian.
O'Brien has never gotten close to building that kind of roster.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Kubiak's stubbornness is what cost him his job. McNair told him to start Case and what did he do, sent Matt back out there.
That team was fully loaded both sides of the ball. It's not like they put that team together.
What did they do after that, what get fired?
Both coaches had the talent here to win. But that epic collapse end their tenure here quickly.
10-6
12-4
2-14
I really don't understand why some fans try to use that as if it really meant something.
Scooter
Funky
Had they won the previous year with Manning lighting it up I'd agree. Instead - Shiloh Keo, Antonio Smith and Owen Daniels all had meaningful plays late in the playoffs (and Superbowl). Wade finally got what Kubiak had been trying to give to his previous DC's. The Denver defense seemed to have 15 linebackers on the field at the same time because he is the singular master of teaching/coaching the front 7. Kubiak won with no offensive line, a broken Manning, BROCK OSWEILER, and a rushing attack lead by below average backs Tillman and Anderson.
Scooter
Funky
Kubiak and Wade CREATE a top rated offense and defense (in spite of Rick Smith GM). They win 12 games, but without their quarterback and poor depth can't advance. They are such horrible coaches that they only win 2 games the next season. 2 years later they use our entire coaching staff to win a Superbowl WITHOUT the 5000yd passer and redesign Fox's defense to include about 100 linebackers. And lest we forget, Kubiak took the Broncos to the playoffs with BROCK OSWEILER.
So, where are the differences? Hint: 'Owner tells head coach to start hometown favorite rookie QB' is a bit of a giveaway.
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infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I'm still cracking up at the folks who declared Kubiak (a) would never be HC again and (b) was incapable of winning a SB. Instead of "taking someone else's team" he and Wade took a Depends wearing Manning & get thee out of here Oz and won.
Funny thing is Kubiak wanted Vance Joseph to be his DC and the Bengals wouldn't let Joseph out of his contract so Kubiak settled on Wade as his DC and the rest is history.
Timing is everything. If the Cowboys fire Wade a year later and the Bengals block Joseph, does Kubiak hire another Richard Smith? Sometimes Kubiak was his worst enemy.
zshawn10
All Pro
5 min video from Gaine:
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https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/status/993649180731232256
GM Brian Gaine discussed his expectations for the rookies during the #Texans offseason program.
7:30 PM - May 7, 2018
https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/status/993649180731232256
Houston Texans
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https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/status/993649180731232256
GM Brian Gaine discussed his expectations for the rookies during the #Texans offseason program.
7:30 PM - May 7, 2018
https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans/status/993649180731232256
While I agree with everything he's saying...doesn't most of that stuff belong to the coaches, not the GM?
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CloakNNNdagger
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Texans have hired C.J. Leak as assistant director of pro scouting. He spent the past 2 years with the Saints, and the 8 years prior to that with the Bills.
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