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JWLCASPER
Waterboy
@badboy @steelbtexan Curious on your thoughts of Tez Walker after all the drama to start the year with eligibility issues at UNC. He has looked like a bonafide superstar since getting the green light. Right now he has a mid to low draft grade (5-6 round). I definitely seeing him moving up to 3-4 round after these last few performances.
badboy
Hall of Fame
JAG at this point. Pretty good at Kent.. but so what? Transfer red tape negated almost half of this year. Too many WR hopefuls like him.
I cannot see any NFL team risking higher than a six rounder on him as of now. He needs to really ball out the rest of the season.
How former Gov. Mike Easley played a role in Tez Walker's eligbility :: WRALSportsFan.com
Former Gov. Mike Easley was among many who worked to get North Carolina wide receiver Tez Walker eligible after months of fighting the NCAA for a waiver.
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JAG at this point. Pretty good at Kent.. but so what? Transfer red tape negated almost half of this year. Too many WR hopefuls like him.
I cannot see any NFL team risking higher than a six rounder on him as of now. He needs to really ball out the rest of the season.
How former Gov. Mike Easley played a role in Tez Walker's eligbility :: WRALSportsFan.com
Former Gov. Mike Easley was among many who worked to get North Carolina wide receiver Tez Walker eligible after months of fighting the NCAA for a waiver.
I'm going to disagree with @badboy here- I like Walker a lot. He's not not in that first tier (MHJ) or second tier (Coleman, Odunze, Egbuka, Nabers), but I think he's in the next tier.
JWLCASPER
Waterboy
Since his return he has had the following lines :
6/43/0 In limited snap count
6/132/3
11/146/1
At Kent in his 2022 year he had 58/921/11.
At 6’3 200 pounds he’s a little lanky compared to other guys I like but he compares to Puka Nacua who went 5th round to the Rams at pick 177. Puka is 6’2 201 and has played above his draft grade. I am trying to figure if Tez is doing these things because of Maye or if he really is a bonafide sleeper. He will absolutely go before the 6th IMO.
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badboy
Hall of Fame
Rome Odunze Wide Receiver Washington | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report
Rating: 87.8 Rank: #6 Forty: 4.45 Rome Odunze's athletic prowess can't be understated. A nod to his athletic feats, he notched a spot at #58 on Feldman's Freaks List, but it's his high scho...
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badboy
Hall of Fame
Big, fast, and good routes:
South Carolina football's Xavier Legette recorded the fastest ballcarrier speed of the season at 22.3 mph, faster than Tyreek Hill's top NFL speed. https://www.greenvilleonline.com/st...-carolina-football-wide-receiver/70970107007/
South Carolina football's Xavier Legette recorded the fastest ballcarrier speed of the season at 22.3 mph, faster than Tyreek Hill's top NFL speed. https://www.greenvilleonline.com/st...-carolina-football-wide-receiver/70970107007/
badboy
Hall of Fame
This guy has faded from sight and I don't know why:
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Jermaine Burton - Alabama Crimson Tide Wide Receiver - ESPN
View the profile of Alabama Crimson Tide Wide Receiver Jermaine Burton on ESPN. Get the latest news, live stats and game highlights.
badboy
Hall of Fame
He does and although only a sophomore, I think he is draft eligible if he wants to come out. He graduated high school 2019. He then did 2 years mission for his church and 2 years Utah. He meets CBA criteria being past his HS graduating class.
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If Legette does what it looks like he's going to do at the combine, he's going in the 1st rd. That size and speed is so rare somebody will take a chance on him in rd one.
If I'm Caserio I draft Newton and if Legette is there at the end of rd one I'm trading up for Legette
Then draft either Rocket Sanders or Jase McClellan in rd 4.
badboy
Hall of Fame
That knee injury of Sanders seems to be continuing and that continually concerns me.
He gained too much weight.
TexansFan15
All Pro
Laube is a smaller program prospect whose name I’ve started hearing. He could be a day 3 add to our backfield. Has speed and is a good receiver out of the backfield.
The Athletic's Dane Brugler has updated his top 50 draft prospects. 17 new players are on the updated board. Including #24 Shedeur Sanders QB COLORADO.
1 Drake Maye QB NORTH CAROLINA
2 Marvin Harrison Jr. WR OHIO STATE
3 Caleb Williams QB USC
4 Brock Bowers TE GEORGIA
5 Olu Fashanu OT PENN STATE
6 Joe Alt OT NOTRE DAME
7 Dallas Turner Edge ALABAMA
8 Keon Coleman WR FLORIDA STATE
9 Laiatu Latu Edge UCLA
10 JC Latham OT ALABAMA
11 Rome Odunze WR WASHINGTON
12 Chop Robinson Edge PENN STATE
13 Malik Nabers WR LSU
14 Nate Wiggins CB CLEMSON
15 Jared Verse Edge FLORIDA STATE
16 J.J. McCarthy QB MICHIGAN
17 Cooper DeJean CB IOWA
18 Kool-Aid McKinstry CB ALABAMA
19 Amarius Mims OT GEORGIA
20 Emeka Egbuka WR OHIO STATE
21 Jer’Zhan Newton DT ILLINOIS
22 Tyler Guyton OT OKLAHOMA
23 J.T. Tuimoloau Edge OHIO STATE
24 Shedeur Sanders QB COLORADO
25 Brian Thomas WR LSU
26 Kalen King CB PENN STATE
27 Taliese Fuaga OT OREGON STATE
28 Terrion Arnold CB ALABAMA
29 Jordan Morgan OT ARIZONA
30 Patrick Paul OT HOUSTON
31 Troy Franklin WR OREGON
32 Chris Braswell Edge ALABAMA
33 Troy Fautanu G WASHINGTON
34 Tyler Nubin S MINNESOTA
35 Quinyon Mitchell CB TOLEDO
36 Jack Sawyer Edge OHIO STATE
37 Denzel Burke CB OHIO STATE
38 Ruke Orhorhoro DT CLEMSON
39 Ja'Lynn Polk WR WASHINGTON
40 Kamari Lassiter CB GEORGIA
41 Barrett Carter LB CLEMSON
42 Adonai Mitchell WR TEXAS
43 Jayden Daniels QB LSU
44 Landon Jackson Edge ARKANSAS
45 Quinn Ewers QB TEXAS
46 Braelen Trice Edge WASHINGTON
47 Calen Bullock S USC
48 Ladd McConkey WR GEORGIA
49 Graham Barton G DUKE
50 Carson Beck QB GEORGIA
Positional breakdown:
10 WRs
9 Edge Rushers
8 CBs
8 OTs
7 QBs
2 DTs
2 OGs
2 Safeties
1 LB
1 TE
Zero RBs
Zero OCs
Notes:
* DTs went from 5 on preseason list to 2.
* WRs doubled from 5 to 10.
* Mayes and Williams flip-flopped with Mayes now at #1, Williams at #3 overall.
* 9 of top 11 prospects are on offense.
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TexansFan15
All Pro
It’s a good list. I like Brugler. I like his prospect analysis. I’m surprised by a few of these, especially that the DTs dropped from 5 to 2.
Honestly I’d target WR, edge, or CB in rounds 1-2. Maybe DT, but only if Newton fell. But ultimately everything depends on how the board falls draft day.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Makes me want to trade down even more.
I would have a hard time picking between Newton and Egbuka if the Texans are picking at 1-20. I probably would go with Newton and sign either Wilkins or Reader in FA.
Things I noticed when it comes to the WR's, Mitchell but no Worthy. No Xavier Legette? Brian Thomas I like alot, but 1-25? No Ja'Tavion Sanders?
If things fell this way and the Texans were picking at say 1-20
Rd.1 Newton
Rd.2 Legette
Rd.2 trading up from 3-84 into the top 60 for Ja'Tavion Sanders using a 4th and a 7th.
Rd.4 Best RB available.
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2025 ESPN Junior 300 rankings: Top classes, scheme fits, under-the-radar prospects
We've updated the junior class player rankings. QB Bryce Underwood remains No. 1 while Georgia and Alabama are off to a hot start and several players have jumped into the player rankings.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Already?
badboy
Hall of Fame
So are Legette and Ja'lynn polk , Kris Abrams-Draine and Jermaine Burton avg 22 and 5 TDs.
I often want to trade down as we need more players and quality exist in round two and three this draft.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Of course, see post 122Already?
I'm more of a quality over quantity guy.
For instance
Give me 3 players in next yrs draft that can start quickly and I'm happy.
If that means drafting
1-20
2-52
2-60
By trading up using a 3rd/4th/7th. Sign me up.
TexansFan15
All Pro
While I wouldn’t mind trading down, we’d have to find a partner to do it.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I understand that philosophy and can agree with it. however, I think that quality exists in my scenario.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Isn't Wilkins Clemson trash?
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
Isn't DJ Reader too?
Brugler does his film work. But, he's also collecting info from NFL personnel. Brugler is tuned into what the NFL is thinking regarding prospects.
Exceptions to the rule.
He doesn't miss practices or have harem's distracting him as far as I know.
I wouldn't draft a guy from Clemson with a high pick and I wouldn't have more than one or two guys from Clemson on the team. Wilkins and Reader are two of those guys I would have on the team.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Painting with that broad brush is a fault my friend. Wilkins, Reader, M.Williams,Tee Higgins, the kid in ATL, man they have high end prospects that produce. They have a dt there this year who is pretty good also, Ruke something
I would pick guys from Clemson in the 3rd rd or later. I also wouldn't have more than 2 of them at the same time on my team.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
WR Xavier Leggett (South Carolina) and RB Bucky Irving (Oregon) had nice games. As Leggett continues his season….it’s getting and harder to think he’ll fall back to 16+ in RD1.
In the event XL is gone before the Texans pick, then I might keep an eye on WR Brian Thomas Jr (LSU). He’s got the length (6-4 @ 205 lbs) and speed (4,47-40) to be solid WR1. He’s not getting the targets Nabers receives, but he’s every bit as productive (17.1 AVG and 11 TD).
In the event XL is gone before the Texans pick, then I might keep an eye on WR Brian Thomas Jr (LSU). He’s got the length (6-4 @ 205 lbs) and speed (4,47-40) to be solid WR1. He’s not getting the targets Nabers receives, but he’s every bit as productive (17.1 AVG and 11 TD).
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
This logic is flawed, but I'm sure you know this already
Agreed, but I dont trust Dabo's guys. Would I've missed out on guys? Yes, but I'm fine with that.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
That's because your career doesn't depend on it. If you follow Clemson, Dabo is very,very selective on the players he recruits. He doesn't have a roster full of 4 and 5 star players. Yes, he gets his share, but he's big on culture. He's really only has 2 guys who were trouble in the nfl and that's Watson and Bryant. The rest of those guys have been fine. Reader, Watkins, Jarrett, Wilkins, T-Law, Williams, Etienne and the list going on. Like I've said before, scout the player, not the helmet.
Where do guys like Ferrell/ Ross/Simmons etc... come into play? I first started watching Clemson back in the Gaines Adams era RIP. I thought he was going to be great he was then I found out we were going to have a party about the NIL deals and know that my wife wasn't arguing with a redneck just Graine land's finest.
JWLCASPER
Waterboy
Pinging @steelbtexan here too so I didn’t derail the Week 9 enjoyment thread. Legette is slowly playing himself out of round 2 and firmly into round 1. I know it was against Jacksonville State, but 9/217/2 with a 24 yard average and 65 yard long just shows how athletically superior he is to most prospects right now.
Legette or Newton are still the apples of my eye round 1, but if we don’t get either of them I am starting to consider Egbuka to reunite him with Stroud (the combo had 74 connections for 1151 yards and 10 touchdowns last year). Tank as the field stretcher, Nico as the big body, and Egbuka as the savvy technician to navigate zone coverages and to give Stroud his safety blanket. Odunze would also be optional here if he gets leapfrogged by Legette/Nabers/Egbuka.
With Legette likely out of my round two discussion, I want to go back to my initial thought of doing what it takes to get Trey Benson here. If it involves a trade up to early round 2, then it’s worth it. I still like Rocket Sanders in the third but he has lacked a bit of explosion lately and Benson is getting better and better. Check out his highlights from the Wake game
Explosive plays. This past week we experienced what explosive plays look like. In my opinion, it’s what separates great teams from good teams. We need the horses to keep up that style of play.
I think the Texans will be picking around 1-20, I'm all for picking Legette there. I've watched quite a bit of him since you told me about him. A threat to score anytime he touches the ball and a field stretcher.
Wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if Rd.1 Legette Rd.2 after trading up Benson. These guys are threats to score every time they touch the ball.
If somehow the Texans could come out of this draft with Legette/Benson/Stover, this would set the offense up to be a top offense next yr.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Lost in all the excitement, I wonder how Robert Woods would have played yesterday versus San Francisco?
If Collins, Dell and Woods when he returns continue with production even close to what happened yesterday and X and Metchie can get on the field does that allow us to look away from drafting a wide receiver in first two rounds? Or if someone that you really want is there do you pull the trigger? I don't think we are exactly at BPA for now.
If Collins, Dell and Woods when he returns continue with production even close to what happened yesterday and X and Metchie can get on the field does that allow us to look away from drafting a wide receiver in first two rounds? Or if someone that you really want is there do you pull the trigger? I don't think we are exactly at BPA for now.
If a guy like Legette is there at 1-20, then I'm picking him, unless Newton is there. It's more about differencemakers for me than positions.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
You can go to Bama and Georgia and find the same failures. Jonah Williams, Alex Leatherwood, Womack. Flucker, Riggs, etc. It happens. Some guys doesn't transition to nfl as well as ecpected
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
With the qb and tackle depth, alot of wrs are going to get pushed into 2nd and 3rd rd like last year
The question is if a guy you like is there at 1-20 and happens to be a WR, do you take him or do you wait and hope he he falls to 2-52. I draft the guy I like.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Who is Ross?
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Most times, it's a cluster if guys who you have a pretty similar grade on. So when you have the cluster, then you take your choice. Rankins and Ridgeway are 1 yr rentals who can't stay on the field. Since the qb seems to be that dude, I think you can do what gb and Pittsburgh do and draft your guy in the 2nd,3rd rd. I think cornerback has a huge hole with 2 guys on at the end of their contract and Stingley staying Injured
I'm giving my young QB everything he needs to succeed. I'm drafting Legette.
Want to fix the DT issue? Sign Wilkins in FA and draft Sweat in the 2nd rd. Sign A.J. Dillon and another CB in FA. Bring back Nelson. I'm terrible at evaluating CB's.