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2024 Free Agency

I have been following the Jaguars concerning their salary cap and players becoming free agents specifically Josh Allen. His camp has been irritated that the Jaguars have not extended him during the regular season. Not long ago their general manager stated that Allen will be back in 2024 which surprised and supposedly angered the player and his agent. They felt negotiation should have occurred during season. While it is still a rumor at this point there is now a chance that general manager will be moving on.
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Jacksonville Jaguars general manager reportedly could leave the team

The Jacksonville Jaguars offseason is underway with head coach Doug Pederson tabbing Ryan Nielsen as defensive coordinator. While there was
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badboy said:
I have been following the Jaguars concerning their salary cap and players becoming free agents specifically Josh Allen. His camp has been irritated that the Jaguars have not extended him during the regular season. Not long ago their general manager stated that Allen will be back in 2024 which surprised and supposedly angered the player and his agent. They felt negotiation should have occurred during season. While it is still a rumor at this point there is now a chance that general manager will be moving on.
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Jacksonville Jaguars general manager reportedly could leave the team

The Jacksonville Jaguars offseason is underway with head coach Doug Pederson tabbing Ryan Nielsen as defensive coordinator. While there was
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Baalke ruined the 49ers and now he's doing his best to ruin the Jags. He doesn't work well with others and I'm really surprised he got another GM job.
 
Porky said:
The safety play in 23 was arguably the biggest disappointment on this team imho. I haven’t looked at a list of FA’s at safety, but we need better play there. If I have a chance I will see who is out there. Anyone got any ideas on who we might could sign?
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Winfield Jr. would be the biggest get but I doubt TB lets him leave. Rapp, Whitehead, Elliot and Chinn are others to look at.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/safety/all/
 
Porky said:
The safety play in 23 was arguably the biggest disappointment on this team imho. I haven’t looked at a list of FA’s at safety, but we need better play there. If I have a chance I will see who is out there. Anyone got any ideas on who we might could sign?
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I don't know the difference in responsibility but Pitre looked like a plus starter in the making under Lovie, but was a massive liability this year. Not sure of what to make of him going forward.
 
JB said:
Winfield Jr. would be the biggest get but I doubt TB lets him leave. Rapp, Whitehead, Elliot and Chinn are others to look at.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/safety/all/
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Yeah, but that depends on what the Bucs end up doing. Are they going to give Mayfield a big contract and try to continue to "compete" with him leading the team (lol). Or will they let guys walk, save money and go for a top pick in 25 to get a new QB and reboot with new HC Morris? The team only made the playoffs because their division is garbage, nobody in the NFC South is winning the NFCC any time soon. They have a lot of key free agents, and they won't be able to keep several of them if they give Baker 40m+ a year.

Winfield and Evans would be awesome pickups from TB. Stealing Allen from the Jags would be great too. The Texans have lots of money to spend and could get a couple of big name guys to come here and really bulk up the roster, I just don't know which of these guys are going to be tagged.
 
AcresHomesTexan said:
I don't know the difference in responsibility but Pitre looked like a plus starter in the making under Lovie, but was a massive liability this year. Not sure of what to make of him going forward.
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That was a major reason why that position was a disappointment. Other reasons are mostly injury-related, and it sapped the depth. Amos looked "ok" back there but he's not a plus player. Depth at best and I think his contract is up anyway. Jimmie Ward was just ok when he played, and he didn't play enough and isn't getting any younger.

Pitre was terrible. Not ok, not fair - terrible. I've never seen a guy miss more plays than he was in a position to make in my life. He should be put on notice that if he doesn't turn it around next year and start making plays, he's getting an apple and a roadmap and a one way ticket to splitsville. He's got a lot of talent, but if you can't make plays, you are as useless as a tit on a boar hog.

They need a starter-level guy as an FA to have 3 starter-level guys going into 24. I"d also draft a young buck in the mid-late rounds to add to the mix. I hope Pitre turns it around. I don't expect him to be Kyle Hamilton, but he needs to at least live up to his talent level. He seriously under-performed in 23.
 
Does anyone have a link that shows each team’s free agents that have completed their rookie contracts?
 
Without knowing who Texans retain and who they let go, here is a short list of FAs I'd like to see get consideration:-
RT
Jermaine Eluemunor LAR
Mike Onwenu. NE
Jonah Williams Cinn.
ED
Carl Lawson NYJ
Bud Dupree ATL
RB
Josh Jacobs LAR
Saquan Barkley NYG
AJ Dillon GB (Thumper)
WR
Tee Higgins Cinn
Mike Evans TB
Tyler Boyd Cinn
DL
DJ Reader Cinn (Bring him back!)
Daquan Jones Buff
LB.
Frankie Luvu Car.
Lavontae David TB
Azeez Al Shaair Tenn
Devin White TB
S
Tashaun Gipson. SF
 
Texansphan said:
Without knowing who Texans retain and who they let go, here is a short list of FAs I'd like to see get consideration:-
RT
Jermaine Eluemunor LAR
Mike Onwenu. NE
Jonah Williams Cinn.
ED
Carl Lawson NYJ
Bud Dupree ATL
RB
Josh Jacobs LAR
Saquan Barkley NYG
AJ Dillon GB (Thumper)
WR
Tee Higgins Cinn
Mike Evans TB
Tyler Boyd Cinn
DL
DJ Reader Cinn (Bring him back!)
Daquan Jones Buff
LB.
Frankie Luvu Car.
Lavontae David TB
Azeez Al Shaair Tenn
Devin White TB
S
Tashaun Gipson. SF
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I could see Caserio target a former draft pick of his… Onwenu would lock down a starting spot at guard or RT. He is an ascending player, but it’s a lot to tie up in the OL. Guess it depends on if they have confidence in Howard making it back. But if you want to make the run game a priority, bring in Onwenu to inject some nastiness to the unit.

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Patriots Priority: Free Agent Michael Onwenu?

Tenured offensive lineman Michael Onwneu is perhaps the most valuable of the New England Patriots' plethora of free agents.
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TheRealJoker said:
I could see Caserio target a former draft pick of his… Onwenu would lock down a starting spot at guard or RT. He is an ascending player, but it’s a lot to tie up in the OL. Guess it depends on if they have confidence in Howard making it back. But if you want to make the run game a priority, bring in Onwenu to inject some nastiness to the unit.

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Patriots Priority: Free Agent Michael Onwenu?

Tenured offensive lineman Michael Onwneu is perhaps the most valuable of the New England Patriots' plethora of free agents.
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I forgot Onwenu.
Howard is decent at RG but if he is not ready we need a good backup.
I think the rest of the guys on the roster should be able to hold up the interior spots.
 
badboy said:
He was courtside at a recent Rocket game and was approached by three different reporters. Of course said nothing about where he will end up. Some people do not know that he is from Galveston.
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At 30yrs old already, Id be asking for a huge hometown discount if he's wanting 25-30 mil/yr...especially for the opportunity to play at home, with an ascending team, and the chance to have CJ throwing him the ball...but I dont see it...he's gonna want his last huge pay day
 
sprtsfanatic said:
As good as he is...for that kind of price tag I'll gladly pass.
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Please remember that apy is not the focus. Here is a contract for example:

4 years $100 m@ 25 APY.

2024 BASE 2 m + 12.5 m [prorated $50 m signing bonus]= cap hit $16.5

2025 $5m base + 14.5= $19.5 cap hit.

2026 same

2027 same


$67 million GTD

I would throw in a 5th year to lower prorated bonus.
 
sprtsfanatic said:
At 30yrs old already, Id be asking for a huge hometown discount if he's wanting 25-30 mil/yr...especially for the opportunity to play at home, with an ascending team, and the chance to have CJ throwing him the ball...but I dont see it...he's gonna want his last huge pay day
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31 August 21st and that is a concern even though nothing indicates he is slowing down.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Barkley was one of the first names I thought of. At the same time I'm a little skeptical of signing RB's to big money in FA, but man...he's only 26 and he'd give Stroud an elite weapon
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You sure you dont want to put his money on the defense or Mike Evans or the defense and draft a RB as well as signing a cheap RB like Edwards -Helaire? BTW, I wonder what A.J. Dillon would cost?

Give me Edwards-Helaire and Irving over Barkley at 11 mil. If you dont like Irving drafting Laube later in the draft is what I would do. This guy is a weapon. Is he an everydown RB? Nope, but he's kinda like Dell as a RB. Playmaker who you give 10 carries a game, let him catch 4-5 passes and let him KR/PR so he gets 15-20 touches a game. Do this and he will make 2-3 difference making plays per game. I also like Gore Jr, for this role.
 
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steelbtexan said:
You sure you dont want to put his money on the defense or Mike Evans or the defense and draft a RB as well as signing a cheap RB like Edwards -Helaire? BTW, I wonder what A.J. Dillon would cost?

Give me Edwards-Helaire and Irving over Barkley at 11 mil. If you dont like Irving drafting Laube later in the draft is what I would do. This guy is a weapon. Is he an everydown RB? Nope, but he's kinda like Dell as a RB. Playmaker who you give 10 carries a game, let him catch 4-5 passes and let him KR/PR so he gets 15-20 touches a game. Do this and he will make 2-3 difference making plays per game. I also like Gore Jr, for thiss role.
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AJ Dillon $3.5 m per Spotrac.
613 yards 3.4 2 TDs
75.6 PFF

22 of 27 targets for 223 yards.
 
My top target in FA is Saquon Barkley. He is an elite RB talent that can be a difference maker. RB position is devalued these days which means for the value of his contract you’re not finding another player who can impact this team’s win total more than him.

He would have the same effect CMC has had on the 49ers. Very similar trajectory as well. Both elite RB talents that spent their time on teams that could only muster 1 winning season before going to a situation that would be perfect for them. Both dealt with injuries as well making people question whether they still have “it”.

We saw CMC put up an MVP caliber performance (if that wasn’t a QB award nowadays). I’d love to see what Saquon can do here.

I think a Jonathan Taylor contract would get it done. 3 yrs/42 million. I’d gladly pay that for what I believe he’d bring to the team.
 
I think CMC is in a Class by himself, but Barkley is in that next tier as a true 3 down bell cow. That said, 3/42 strikes me as a little rich a RB. I’d go as high as 3/36, and if someone offers more, so be it.
 
Porky said:
I think CMC is in a Class by himself, but Barkley is in that next tier as a true 3 down bell cow. That said, 3/42 strikes me as a little rich a RB. I’d go as high as 3/36, and if someone offers more, so be it.
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There are only so many bell cows to go around. I am not going to risk losing out on one over 2 million/year.

Especially when this offense desperately wants to feature one.
 
TheRealJoker said:
There are only so many bell cows to go around. I am not going to risk losing out on one over 2 million/year.

Especially when this offense desperately wants to feature one.
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It would be nice to see AJ Dillon here.
He can be the thunder to Singletary's lightning and he should be cheaper than Barkley or Josh Jones.
A backfield of Dillon, Singletary and Pierce should solve our running game woes.
 
Texansphan said:
It would be nice to see AJ Dillon here.
He can be the thunder to Singletary's lightning and he should be cheaper than Barkley or Josh Jones.
A backfield of Dillon, Singletary and Pierce should solve our running game woes.
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I was on the Dillon train and he's played in a WCO. He hasn't been as productive as his talent level says he should be. I was very disappointed with his play this yr. When Aaron Jones made it back from injury the Packers run game got better. That's an indictment of Dillon. IMHO
 
I don’t think Dillion and Pierce pared with Motor solves much at all imho. I’m not so sure that’s not going backwards and it’s not like this team set the world on fire. They have to address RB in a bigger way with a guy that can create on his own, and can be a true factor in the passing game. There are a small handful of FA that fit that description and Dillion isn’t one.

I also hope they address RB in the draft in a significant way. Someone that can be an eventual starter, not some specialist type. As fas as Dare, he can be cut. I don’t give a rats behind about ST when he sucks at RB.

We need massive improvement at RB, and Dare and Pierce shouldn’t even get a whiff at this roster.
 
Two positions I want addressed in free agency: RB and safety.

RB: I have posted about this being the most important position to address this offseason. The offense needs a difference making bell cow to reach its potential (See 49ers). This FA class of RBs is the strongest in recent memory. You have three players who fit that criteria (Barkley, Jacobs and Henry). Then you have a guy like Ekeler who you can also make an argument fits that category. For me, I am going for the highest upside play of the bunch and making a run at Barkley. 26 years old should have 3 years of high end production left in him.

Safety: Tight ends have had a field day against this team for as long as we can remember. Also, DeMeco has instilled the “swarm” mentality in the defense but too often the ball carrier did not go down at first contact. Pitre had a sophomore slump and Ward cannot be counted on to stay healthy. I want to add an ascending player to the mix with the versatility to fill either role. Send the loser to the slot.

There are three top tier candidates: Antoine Winfield, Kyle Dugger and Kamren Curl.

Winfield is admittedly a pipe dream, I see him getting tagged. Dugger and Curl more reasonable. I want Dugger if I get to pick. Elite measurables and has shown the ability to play anywhere on the field. An instinctive player who is an excellent tackler. Played all 17 games this past season and 98% (!!!) of the snaps on defense! Dugger would be able to match up with tight ends that terrorize the Texans and be a plus in the run game.

If we can’t get Dugger than Curl is a nice consolation prize. Everything I said about Dugger applies to Curl except a tier below on athleticism. Curl played every defensive snap in 16 games this season. Versatile player.

Texans have the money to re-sign players and add key upgrades at these two positions.
 
AcresHomesTexan said:
I don't know the difference in responsibility but Pitre looked like a plus starter in the making under Lovie, but was a massive liability this year. Not sure of what to make of him going forward.
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Not everyone came up like roses under the Ryans staff. While Nico and Greenard made big improvements, Pierce and Pitre regressed. I think both are brought back with the hope that year 2 is when these guys pick up the system.
 
Lucky said:
Not everyone came up like roses under the Ryans staff. While Nico and Greenard made big improvements, Pierce and Pitre regressed. I think both are brought back with the hope that year 2 is when these guys pick up the system.
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Honestly, I think Pierce's fit or lack thereof in this run scheme is so bad that I'd look to move him if possible.
I love the guy and want him to succeed but I think he needs to go to a team that runs a gap scheme or power scheme whatever it's called.
He's clearly not a fit in this one.
He's a 1k back on the right team. Just not this one.
 
michaelm said:
Honestly, I think Pierce's fit or lack thereof in this run scheme is so bad that I'd look to move him if possible.
I love the guy and want him to succeed but I think he needs to go to a team that runs a gap scheme or power scheme whatever it's called.
He's clearly not a fit in this one.
He's a 1k back on the right team. Just not this one.
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The Texans are not going to find RBs in the draft that come from ZBS in college. Most college teams run RPO. So, there's some coaching involved no matter what. Basically, the people that say Pierce is a bad fit are really saying that Pierce is not capable of learning. Not sure if that's true, just like I'm not sure the Texans are running a true ZBS.
 
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